Review | 2017 Lexus CT200h | Eco Hatch with Flair
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- čas přidán 5. 08. 2024
- We do a quick review on the 2017 Lexus CT200h F-Sport. A vehicle designed for those who don't want the quirkiness of a Prius and don't want a CUV. This hatchback has some charm but reaching a broad appeal in current form seems doubtful.
The hatchback segment is getting better from the likes of Ford, VW, Subaru and soon Honda with the Type-R. Other luxury brands continue to offer alternatives as well.
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SavageGeese is:
Scott Turbowski - Labor Camp Designer
Mr. Goose - Mayor of Dookerino (Population 3)
Index:
00:00 - 00:33 Intro
00:33 - 2:47 Exterior Impressions with Turbowski
2:47 - 11:32 In the Shoppe with Scott Turbowski
11:32 - 18:30 Driving Impressions and Interior Overview - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Honestly, I'll take mechanical and electric engineering over infotainment software any day.
so true. Since we all have smartphones, the integrated systems fall behind often anyways.
then, I guess this is a car for you
@renewer At the rate they break these days, yes. I do believe majority of modern cars have mechanical and electrical bits, but they are far from engineered.
@renewer LOL..try owning a BMW after warranty, the "engineering" is to cost savings, more and more plastic and CAD to customer with no road testing. The new era of Chinese transmissions is upon us, which basically put Ford out of the car business. Now they just make vehicles for fat people.
@renewer let me help you understand by directing you to this video - czcams.com/video/a8LWUyhCOhk/video.html
I love my CT200h for my daily, perfect commuter car, people say it's slow, it's not meant to be fast. I think the price point and the features and reliability involved, it is an excellent choice.
By the way, I just noticed you filmed this in illinois, where I am from. Do you mind letting me the know location?
Perhaps one day you can review my 2012 F sport special edition or my s2000 as well.
@@TofuProductionCinema
People always complaining about how slow the car is. Speed is obviously not why you buy this particular car. I wanted something economical while not looking ugly. And the sport mode gives me enough pep to do the passing I need. Also, you can find great deals on used CTs. A low mileage Lexus - no matter the year - is basically like new.
EeeeZeee agreed. Unfortunately I sold my CT last year. But I stayed in the Lexus family.
@@TofuProductionCinema Why did you sell it? Did you trade it in for a better lexus?
Tiffany Garcia I did. It was a startling contrast, I purchased a LS460. Ive referred many friends and coworkers to the CT and after purchase, they still love it to this day. I went with the LS for more room and s few other amenities- but honestly I may be selling my LS soon.. as I truly want the UX hybrid f sport.
The homoerotic 80's stuff with Turbowski is amazing!
Owner of a 2011 CT. With its specific purpose it is an awesome car. And its powertrain is bulletproof. You won't be doing 14 second quarters and you will get smoked by Civics and Sentras (trust me on that) but it sure looks good and I average 44-46 mpg.
hows your battery pack holding out ?
@@MikeDiCiero I got a 2011 CT with 90k km on it. I average 61.9-53.46mpg(us) in summer. 51.13 - 45.23mpg(us) in winter. Daily it, driving ~60km a day, some highway and some 80km/h road and some city driving. Live in northern sweden, so ofc driving with real winter tyre. My uncle is a lexus specialist mechanic and he got a lexus rx with over 400k km on it, 09 model. Regular maintenance for me and np. My uncle had one problem with water getting into hybrid battery, so had to close the leak and working well now 50k km later.
@@MrFalken91 - Can you ask your Uncle if he's had or seen many ct200 with ice forming in the intake manifold
during the winter ?
@@MikeDiCiero Sure
@@MrFalken91 So did you ask? :) What's the answer?
Your condescending and facetious conversation in the garage is perfect. This is how my friends and I talk and I enjoy It more and more each vid while actually learning something.
I drive 25 miles to work one way and I cruise at 80-85 Miles Per hour and my CT is great. Love this car and sport mode is AMAZING!!!!
turbowski is going to be fighting off the ladies after they see that new intro.
Ha! The 'In the shoppe' segment intro just keeps getting better.
This one even had slo-mo Turbowski...if they can do an 80's-style montage next we might be "Better Off Dead"
This video actually really made me interested in this car. Looks well laid out for a daily commuter with that touch if more comfort and luxury and a great mpg.
I have one and I love it for all the reasons you mentioned. It's a great compliment if you already have a fun, gas guzzler car
Im driving mine into the ground, then buying it again. its amazing.
I’m so glad you mentioned the double wishbone rear suspension cause turbowski like all the big car people don’t understand a little hybrid like this usually knows the demographic doesn’t care about that, they just want a comfortable gas saver
I love the CT. I think it's one of the best looking small hatchbacks.
They should make a AWD F performance model
It's an aggressive looking thing, something my sister also agrees. However we both also agree the powertrain and its looks aren't that corresponding to each other.
Still the sad bit is the CT will be going away after 2017 with its replacement (likely based off the new UX concept car) which is derived from the Toyota CH-R which is more a wee-SUV than a hatchback. Also given its size I'm not holding out on a performance variant with more than 200hp.
Toyota4Life or they should put the new 2.0 turbo in it
It really deserves a more powerful powertrain. I will be super happy if Lexus make a performance hatch out of the CT.
So agree. Every time I see one on the road I think they are great looking.
Corolla Hatchback is the replacement imo.
I’m impressed. Gotta be the first no nonsense (well not gushy anyway), but equally technical review of this car AND you didn’t pull any punches, pretty well summed up what some other reviewers have said and covered areas that most don’t even bother with.Nice 👍
Liked the title intro btw.👍👍
Best review on the CT that I've seen. Very helpful insights. Thank you!
I love my ct200. It has great aerodynamics. It does well in rain and curves. It's the coolest hatchback ever made....
I’m so mad they discontinued this model for the US. About to graduate college and was looking forward to buy the 2017 f sport or the 2018 sport when it came out ):
Americans didn't buy them. Small cars are dissappearing in the US market.
dat Turbowski montage...
I...I can't look away
Lol, I feel like I am the only one that actually liked this car but then again I went in with poor expectations. Performance seemed enough to me, felt like a 200HP car.
The "In The Shop with Turbowski " intro's are always my fav! lol
5 yrs later it's a real nice 12 to 15k car.
It’s crazy how far this channel has come.
For whatever reason, the shop bits were hilarious to me. The subtle pauses and soft speaking compared to some of your newer videos is so funny.
Dude the camera work and the music is amazing and this could easily be shown on TV as a commercial and none would be the wiser.
Beautiful video as usual, Mr. Goose.
I love the reviews as always, but if you could have a video someday with a "Best of Turbowski" video montage that would be greeaaaaat. Lol
Yeah, like I can do 0 - 60 in 5 seconds in my street when it's full of traffic. It's always full of traffic, I live in the city! What do I need a fast car for? So I can drive faster into the back of the car in front of me? This car is primarily a hatchback designed for city driving. Why is it so hard to get that? And if you want a hybrid, a hatchback and a bit of luxury as you drive around the city, what else are you going to buy?
+David NZ Its something to note, car is slow thats it. Like you said, if you are ok with it and need it for grinds or city you are going to love MPG for sure.
Test drove this car a week ago and it was amazing. In Sport and Normal mode I never once thought I needed more power and the 134 horsepower feels like 200 to me. It is a damn good car, all I can say is go test drive it yourself.
Clvmind I live in city suburbs. I rarely get on the highway. Most of my driving is on roads that have a speed limit around 30 MPH. So, I'd love to have a hybrid...
its because you should expect a bit more for the asking price. 42k for that F Sport version. It also cheapens the F Sport line its like if Honda slapped Si on the Fit, and only stiffened the suspension. Speaking of Honda the Civic Hatch is actually a better deal. Top trim level of the new civic hatchback is $28k. With that you get pretty much everything this Lexus has and a bit more. Leather, remote start, back up camera, navigation, turbocharged engine. On the CT200H Navi and back up camera are an additional $3,500 option in addition to the $32k base price by the time you option it up to have many of the features the Civic already has on its base $19k trim you're looking at double what a base Civic would cost. In my opinion this car has no place in the market when there are far cheaper alternatives. The only reason anyone would buy this is solely for mpgs, but personally I don't think thats enough.
David Maglioli Hondas are gross af
I don't know why but I think the style and shape just looks sexy and trendy.
Its honestly a fancy hybrid toyota matrix. And that is essentially an indestructible car
@@Hallowsaw yup I had a 2003 Toyota Matrix and got this CT bc it looks related
It is a nice looking chassis. The crease in the rear door leading back to the rear wheel arch is of cosmetic interest.
Wow, your videos have come a looooong way!
Your electric green shoe laces have more charge than this hybrid 😆. You guys are awesome and love every video. Keep up the hard work!
Gotta say, I've had one for a couple of months now and I have never...and I mean never, felt the brake pedal bottom out. The braking feel is really good.
Keep them coming. Enjoy these reviews.
Turbowski's eyes go right for moose knuckles too, ya dig. Speaking of which, those intros get better every time.
my mom just got her 2019 and i love to drive it. i might consider getting one myself. driving 140 miles per day its a non brainer to go Hybird
My dad got a 2019 too, its lovely isnt it!
Great vid as always. keep em coming.
the best review of this car...impressive.Thank you
This car is such a conundrum for me. When I see them on the road I think they are really really sharp looking. I do 90% of my driving in town so of course the fuel efficiency would be great as well. The downside being the lackluster driving experience. Sounds like the F Sport option may help the roundabouts and back roads be a bit more enjoyable, but everything else is just so blah. Such a shame because I really really like the exterior looks.
Strange video, no beauty shots like usual in the beginning. Love the Turbowski intro streak is going and alive! 2017 Civic video will go down as the first and best Turbowski intro! Interesting dialogue on the batteries too.
It's the video form of a snub.
Hi I think the heat exchanger is there to recapture heat from the exhaust system to help interior heat so that the engine less as possible but I could be wrong I know it does exist on some cars.
Just bought one. I drive a lot in city traffic and some long-distance trips on speed limited highways. Should fit my needs perfectly. Thanks for the rant about the car.
Man I love these old Turbowski videos they're hilarious
Did they ever say why they parted ways?
Just bought a 2016 F Sport - pretty sure it’s the same color here: Atomic Silver.
Yes, it’s slow, but it feels quick, likely due to the size and decent torque you get at the low end. Handling is great in Sport mode. No, not as good as my 2005 WRX STI on $2500 KW coilovers, but with the battery its got a low center of gravity and keeps it planted. Suspension is firm, but it feels good if you want to feel connected to the road. I was cross shopping RX 350s and just found them to be way too floaty.
The Premium Audio is great. Wish the ML audio that Europe got would have come to the USA.
It’s a good daily driver next to my 2005 Subaru WRX STI. My only real gripe is cargo space is lacking even with the seats down, but most of the other hatches available are either ugly af (Honda Fit or a Prius) or getting a reliable one can be luck of the draw (Imprezas, Golfs, Focus).
I think it’ll hold its value pretty well and may swing up in desirability since the model is discontinued. They make for great looking cars. Extreme reliability, less expensive batteries being made every year (even though the stock battery should last a good 10-15 years), great styling, and even a good sized modding community behind it (albeit mostly cosmetic - TRD even came out with some parts and an exhaust system you can bolt on!).
Noticing you're in my neighborhood in Woodstock, Bull Valley! Great video of my CT200, I love mine!
Bro this is my favorite video of yours. Honestly the best. Best comedy, sarcasm etc. also I own the car. Lmao
savagegeese *slightly annoyed*: "No, they don't have it in oh-rahnge..."
Lol 1:05
Really liked this review :)
Thanks guys , really great detailed information about this car , probably my next car will be Lexus.
so lets say you are buying a used one from 2013 with 90k on it what should you be making sure of before you buy it? a friend bought a used prius and has had years of hastle $ free enjoyment. some have bad experiences too not sure what way to go here.
The 200 in CT200H denotes that it makes power of an typical 2.0 liter engine.
So - there is a reason these cars run for 300,000 miles - the NiMH batteries are recyclable - so by the time you get the running cost of a regular car, that dies somewhere around 130-150,000 miles and has to be replaced - REALLY? A problem??? come on - all taxis in NYC are Prius's - for a reason. Next stop is full electric. this thing is a dream.I've owned 50 vehicles, from rare Alfa's to whatever, - performance IS NOT just about speed. The handling on this car is superb, and I've NEVER bottomed out on the brakes - and I drive hard. It is solid at 100 mph as it is at 30 mph. I live on Maui on a twisty windy road and it is a blast to drive - as good as anything I have ever owned. This guy is a downer with his way of perceiving this car. Try one - and enjoy. PS - I drive AT SPEED - 80 to 90 plus every day with this car. I own a 2012 with 158,000 miles on it and going strong.And JUST replaced the brakes.
I'm looking at one, and your comment makes me want it even more. I have a '14 Sentra, and it's also slow. It's not premium, and it doesn't give me the good gas mileage either (relative, it's giving me 34.8 mpgs)
Sounds like highway driving. If you like driving 75-80, you won't do much better with this. I get 36-38 when I drive like an ass on the interstate.
finally real car guy here. Sport its not only about 0-60, bhp or engien size. Handling whats makes sport car vs drag car. Porsche is famous for it and I love my lexus ct200h as much as I love my porsche
Does anyone know if there is a difference between the 2014-2017 Ct 200h?
God I love going through your older vids.
I've always loved these. I think they are gorgeous.
hand crafter version of lexus rx 2013 or so looked less sharp, the version that didnt have the awierd looking aroedynamic frotn end. that more friendly thick strong look couldve been nicer
turbowski intro rules!
PLEASE PLEASE DO A REVIEW ON A USED LEXUS ISF, I LOVE YOUR REVIEW MAN AND TURBOW IS REALLY FUNNY LOL
when will you do the new 2016/2017 Toyota Prius?
Turbo looks so out of place standing next to this car. Absolute King
Entertaining and solid review
Thanks for the excellent review
owner of 12 ct200h; review is very good and captures the pros and cons. would only add winter driving has been ok for me in canada; with winter tires the weight of the car is stable.
You could do a review of a Dodge K-car and I would watch it. Love your sense of humor.
enjoy the reviews and the dry as sheet rock humor
Does this Scott guy really work on cars? Hopefully never mine.
Ours is a 2015 and still giving us 47.7mpg overall. Some tanks 50.6.
Very practical!
I don’t get good mileage with mine for some reason. I get the same mileage as my 2003 Toyota Matrix. My CT is 2017.
@@kenzicake3696 is it new?
@@john-wo4rv yes I got it at 24k miles. I’m on the highway a good bit of the time but still
just another fantastiCT200h video
On the infotainment - I've just test driven a CT200h Executive Edition and it looks like they've updated the infotainment system since this review was made. The little 'mouse' that navigates around the display is now a fixed wheel like most German cars, and the display and menus themselves seem to be updated. I must say I like it, I currently have a 2014 Mini which uses a version of the iDrive system from BMW which is frankly brilliant, and to be fair the Lexus system I tested didn't feel too far behind that.
Overall I really liked the car, I think I'm going to put an order in.
I'm thinking of buying a 2011 or 2012 Lincoln MKZ Hybrid with 66k miles on it for $9500 from a dealer. I'm looking for a luxury car with good mpg for daily commute to work but most importantly reliable and I didn't find any option other than 2010 Lexus HS250 or 2011 CT 200h (ugly). under 10k budget. The problem with Lexus is there are both more than 110k miles on it and I don't want to buy a Hybrid vehicle with high miles where the battery is closer to shutting off.
What is your opinion?
13:40 how are you in sport mode without the rev counter showing?
BTW,
I believe when Toyota/Lexus names a car that has a gasoline only and a gasoline/electric version (this car is sold in Europe as gasoline only in some markets I believe) the model name comes from the performance the engine the hybrid version produces. This engine performs nearly as well as a 2 liter gas only. Either that, or they just round up to next number? As in LS460 becomes LS500h.
i hope you get your hands on the new 2018 CT.
very interested in getting 1 for my dad.
i did not get the ct during 15 because of the brakes and lots of under steer.
dad and mum is getting old they need really gd brakes.
Is it true that mining and refining nickel is worse for the environment than lithium? I haven't heard that anywhere else... The anti-electric and anti-hybrid people always complain about the impacts of lithium mining.
The chemistry between these two is really what made this channel.
with the Lexus CT - Have you guys ever experienced a clogged EGR pipe or problems with brakes locking? I'm looking to purchase a 2016, however, I'm reading forums of people complaining about these issues and now I'm not sure if I should purchase a CT. Any advice is helpful :)
The egr should be the least of your worries. The real thing is that they blow their head gasket like crazy, just like their Prius sibling.
Steeler Chuma this is not true. the EGR causes the blown head gasket because if it is not cleaned every 100k then it will clog, and this will lead to higher engine temperatures and cause the HG to blow. So the clogged EGR causes the head gasket issue.
i have a 2012 CT right now, and am at 110k, and just about to replace the entire EGR circuit (pipe, manifold, valve, and cooler).
so far, it has not given me problems, but i am looking to clean every 100k to prevent my head gasket from blowing.
this is essential because if the system gets blocked the engine will run hot and perhaps throw a rod (very rare).
My advice would be to get a 2014+ CT, as the rings and pistons were redesigned.
this doesn’t full solve the problem though, because there are still a handful of 2014-2017 owners who have already blown head gaskets as well.
the key to this car is EGR maintenance, and oil changed every 5k. if you do that and clean/replace the EGR circuit every 100k, this car will LAST FOREVER.
you must maintain it though. every car has its downsides.
so far, i love this vehicle. It is my first Lexus and probably will not be my last.
@@Adam-oo7tn thanks so much for the advice!!
Always buy the final year of a model. All the issues have been fixed
Nice to see Illinois 💪🏽
I think this is such a good looking hatch. I just wish they made a non hybrid version.
Will you being doing a civic hatchback review?
Appreciate you’re being blunt. I am considering a discontinued Lexus product Obviously they do not depreciate compared to others but they are so reliable. I’m frustrated with toss a way vehicles.
Great special effects intro, you must have sold three tshirts to fund those Fx.
I come to every video now just for the Turbowski intros, I feel slightly uncomfortable in a good way when he looks into my eyes.
Whose ct200h was this, Savagegeese? This has all the rare options like the LED headlights and memory seats? did this person special order the car? I would really like to know.
It was one of the last press cars.
@@savagegeese thank you! I have this car but in red, like the color you suggested!.
Why lexus hasn't slapped a 200-250hp i4 turbo in it is beyond me.
CAFE Standards
The IS and GS weren't designed with the 2.0 liter 8AR turbo in mind either, but shoehorned in during their mid-cycle refresh replacing the thirsty & under-powered 2.5 liter 4GR V6.
My guess is the CT was meant to be an experiment at targeting Audi A3 & Mercedes CLA buyers. Obviously with the market shifting towards small SUVs (sigh), Lexus already decided the CT replacement would be closer to a shrunken NX than another compact hatchback. Considering the engineering cost to put the 8AR into the CT, Lexus just decided to not even bother and use that money to develop the upcoming successor based on the Toyota C-HR.
Trades46 oh yeah? When are they going to drop the CT from the line up?
matt molloy
From what I heard, either 2018 or 2019. I'm not holding my breath, I don't even like these new wee-SUV anyways.
Heyu Yoma You act like I'm somehow talking shit about Lexus.
I love Toyota/Lexus, but lets face it. Lexus has yet to make a hothatch and it's bothersome when one considers BMW, Audi and Mercedes have one. Ford, Honda and VW are even helping themselves to a slice of that hothatch pie
Is it just me or does that slot between the volume and tune knob look like a tape deck?
If they had a sportier version I'd get it once they do a refresh or something
When will you review the gs350?
+Savagegeese will you be reviewing the Ford Fusion Sport? I'd love to see you sitting in it.
i think it's a really good looking hatchback
it seems not the double wishbone rear suspension. it is a rear suspension same with Ford Focus, tie blade multi-link suspension.
Honesty review which clearly defines the pros and cons of the car and the target clientele . The big selling point as with any Japanese car is the 100pc reliability .
Do you have a Golf 4Motion coming up? I managed to get one as a rental just today. Kind of interesting.
This still looks interesting even in 2019. My only doubt with it would be that it's too slow for overtaking. I live in a country with very few highways so overtaking trucks or vans is on the menu everywhere you go basically. I really don't want to relive my youth and trying to overtake a 40T truck with 90hp... I drive mostly in the city buy I really want to not worry about that every time I have to leave the city.
See that's what I like about savagegeese, they keep it real
When are you putting your order in for this gem?
You guys crack me up!!!
not gonna lie, Scott is a hot cookie
"Do you have to plug that into USB-C too?" LOL
Oh That Infotainment.... I had a 2014 IS350 for 2 1/2 years and I loved everything minus that infotainment... it just got to the point where I left the thing on Bluetooth Audio and just mounted my phone to the vent and used it for navigation and as my "head unit" instead. Now I have a 2016 VW with their new infotainment that has Carplay and Android Auto too and it feels 10 years ahead of the Lexus's. Even without the phone connection its so much better
I am pretty sure its discontinued as of 2018 and will be replaced by lexus ux. Lexus said it wasnt selling well. Thanks for review though :)
"That's a ride height sensor" haha...We need more Scott
"Why 200?" - from what I've seen, Lexus uses the engine displacement in the model name - EXCEPT in the hybrids. For those, it appears they use the "equivalent displacement" for the hp. So a 1.8l with a hybrid motor might be called a 200, just like their RX400h had a 3.3l (?) engine.
It's for the torque.
Guys its a fancy hybrid toyota matrix, shits gonna be bulletproof
Silver color today is like the beige of the 90s.
Slow wit Scott’s head is the fulcrum for introducing components on the car as talking points...at least I hope.