NEW Makita 18v Inflator VS OLD Makita 18v Inflator | The new one is a LOT Better... or is it?
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Hey!
Would the new one have pumped the rugby ball up on the regular setting if its limit wasn’t set to 70kpa? Meaning have it set much higher?
Thanks for your videos man!
Price mention is handy. I just checked, and the newer one (181 vs 180) is 75% higher price where I live (approx. USD equivalent $80 vs $140 our amazon); might have to flip a coin to decide (as lower price & weight/smaller storage is also good).
The lack of a locking trigger is tragic. I guess I'd just keep a foot of parachute cord on it to tie up the trigger when needed.
DMP181Z I am absolutely baffled by the design of this tyre inflator.
1. You set the target limit, but then have to bend down to hold in the trigger to make the pump work. I bought it to save my back and it doesn’t do that.
2. Why is there no auto shut off? What is the point setting the target pressure? The pump will also continue pumping if you hold the button in past the target pressure.
3. There is a bracket for a valve I’ll never use hanging on the end of the inflator tube which makes it very awkward to attach. Why isn’t it stored elsewhere?
4. The tube has a straight valve connector that loses pressure as you unscrew it and is also nigh on impossible to get it on to a motorcycle front wheel valve. Valve needs to be right angled and quick release.
Thanks for this video. I got the smaller one from my local home depot to bring my truck tires up from sand pressure, back to street-safe (12 to 25) and it was just too slow for the task. Seeing how the 181 is almost twice as fast, I think it will do nicely. I love having one battery system for all my tools... Makita is the best.
It’s cool but I’ll probably stick with the original as it fits perfectly under my back truck seat.
Side note, 9,000 views and 285 thumbs up so far? Come on, we all know this man is putting out some of the best tool reviews. Perfect blend of real world info and a unique blend of comedy. Let’s get him some more recognition, it’s mutually beneficial.
Cheers man
Got the 40v a few days ago and happy to say so far its been really good it inflates motor cycle tyres really quickly for a battery powered pump and the size isn’t really an issue considering it does the job quickly 💪🏻🏁
It's crazy how fast they inflate the car tire from zero, wow. And that was fun watching the ball explode. 😂
Excellent review as always, the new 181 is a hug improvement still a shame no trigger lock though. I don’t own a inflator yet, so If I see the old model on clearance I’ll probably pick it up! Cheers
Nice demo. Glad I waited for the 181 version.
Fantastic comparison! I would’ve liked to see it with a very large truck tire but this video helped me out. My 180 will do a truck tire from 17 to 35 psi in about 7 minutes. I’m thinking the 181 will be around 4. Thanks again for the comparison
What a great comprehensive review , well done chief from Ireland .
Thank you kindly
I prefer the quick clip on method. I use it on my racebike to fill my tires. Best Makita tool i own and also the cheapest in the toolbox :D
Great comparison review. That helped alot!
Still in my opinion a little bit small for filling anything other than a small car tire. I run a cheap12-volt clamp on car battery one that'll put out 42 LPM/1.47 CFM (Makita dmp181z 23LPM/.81CFM) and I feel like that is slow sometimes.
a perfect review. All the key info (except noise data), and entertaining to boot. I have the 180 and it's okay but weedy and quite loud, and the trigger thing is a pain, obviously. I use the ziptie mod too.
Very thorough, nice work. I much prefer the clamp on style.
Thank you for the review. That helped. I have already "standardized" on the Makita batteries and have 2 Makita drills, a hedge trimmer, a 36V blower (that uses 2 18V batteries at a time) and a string weed trimmer, so I was already leaning towards a Makita air compressor, but this sealed it. Gonna purchase the Makita DMP181ZX 18V LXT. Sorry about your rugby ball!
Very good. I’m sold. The 181 is $62US dollars more that the 180 but definitely seems worth it. Thanks.
Great review as usual, thank you!
Cheers
Loved the opening... Fly fishing NZ is on my bucket list! Dang COVID... Lord willing, I'll make it there someday.
I have the 12v version which is great for small car tires and bikes. A nice compact unit. Interesting that the old 18v one is little better than the 12v one though, glad I didn’t wait for that to come out! The new one is usefully more powerful and I’d probably buy that for workshop use, but no need now as I’m retired. :) If the lack of a trigger lock bothers you just set up and trim a zip tie and leave it on. Though I did that 2 years ago and have never used it! I don’t think I’d like the screw on valve connector but if it bothered me I’d change it to quick connect. (Or maybe combined Presta/Schrader)
Great review and helped with my decision. Well done and quality video. Cheers from across the ditch.
Cheers
This is a great mobile tool. I love it. Perfect for road trips and pool floats/balls. I still fire up the compressor if I'm in my garage for the vehicles...it's just way faster.
"Make sure you lube up your needle before you jam it in your ball." LOL! Good advice! My take on the different ends is that the screw-on is easier for car tires...especially if there is tight clearance on a rim. I would prefer the older model with the quick connect. But I would probably use it more for my road bikes than car tires. I wished they had a version of the clamp-on end specifically for presta valves. Great comparison! Thanks!
Can't wait to get the new one. Not available at Amazon for me in the US yet. I use my LXT one all the time and I'll just leave in my truck tool box. The trigger thing is not a big deal. I just keep a velcro strap on mine. I thought about getting the XGT version but it doesn't seem that there is that much advantage and I don't have any XGT tools yet. And yes, I'll appreciate the screw on connection as I have a lot of tube tires I'm inflating and it's hard to get the clamp on one on some of them.
Thank you, good review.
Can this pump be used on SUP’s?
I'll stick to the DMP180Z - The angled valve connector is perfect for kids motorbikes and tight places.
Thank you! I was looking at these at a local store and didn't know the difference. I'll definitely be going with the 181, faster and has the screw on connector.
DMP181Z is better then DMP180Z but the price difference is almost 2X times (115 euros vs. 60 euros). Same time, they are both home use only devices - for random flat ball or tire and that's it. You're not going to use them at air tools at the worksite, or in carshop etc.
The thing, that 181 is a little bit faster, don't really matter in this case ... you going to use that anyway few times a year max and if you need a device for everyday use, you're going to get real tool, with tank and decent pump.
I use a velcro strap to hold on the switch on the old model. Always check the set pressure before doing this though!
MATE Thankyou for ALL your Makita revews. As a Makita fan I have valued your opinions on the tools/ battries. I have choen with insight when gettting my kit. Your videos are always interesting-thanks again from your UK FAN (my wife needs abit more convincing about how I get carried away with my purchases though)😁
P.S. 20% of my watchers are "UK Fans"
I like the screw on better , you don’t have to worry about it slipping or not holding properly works the same every time
I wish id know the bigger version was coming out before I bought the first 18v inflator. I pressure test heating systems with mine often and I think it struggles.
Please let me know where to buy the quick connect clamp. Is there any part number for it? THANK YOU!
People really be mad about it having no trigger lock 😆
Thanks mate, just ordered one for here in the UK
Cool 👍
Great video, thank you
Great review. I bought the xgt a couple of weeks ago. Can’t wait for it to arrive
The XGT is very similar to the new LXT, just a little bit quicker. Review soon.
Honestly. For what it’ll do for me 35-55 psi… you’re probably right. Maybe the difference would be more noticeable with suv/trucks that have 90 psi tires
I got my DMP181 a few days ago. What I don't understand is that in the price-class of more than 100 EUR they didn't manage to put the LED straight on. It shines about 10 degrees to the right, at least on the one that I bought. Of course the tool and it's light is absolutely usable, but for that price I would like to get more perfection and/or quality control.
The solution that the DMP181 has - to srew it onto the car-velves - is not bad, especially when I remember how many seals on "90°-squeeze-solutions" I have seen broken. However, I immediately upgraded to a "screw-on quick-adapter" (I don't know how they're called in english). A penny-tool if Makita bought them in bulk, I don't understand why they deliver it with the tool (in this price-class!).
I loved my old 12V Makita but sold it to a friend when I got this new one. It is a LOT better. BUT WHY NO TRIGGER LOCK, MAKITA?
Great video
Do you have to let go of the trigger when you reach the set pressure or do you keep the trigger squeezed until the machine stops by itself? Assuming it stops by itself right?
If you hold the trigger on and it gets to pressure and shuts off does it start pumping again if the pressure drops?
Really wish they would add a powerful cooling fan to these small inflators. They get so hot and don't use much power, so I don't see any downside.
Where do you get that battery tester thing?
Thank you for this video! You've made my decision much easier now. BTW, Thats's a good looking Makita charger. I can't seem to find one here in PA (USA) or on a quick google search. Can you tell me what the model number is please? Thanks again
Is a tear down in the planning? I would love to see the internal differences and what they’ve need all that extra space for!
I hadn't planned to... but you never know...
Nice job. Can’t wait to see the 40v XGT version. These are hard to come by in the USA at the moment. As others have mentioned, a tear down would be great! You have the the best channel(s) on YT for “real world” tool reviews. Keep up the great work, your making a difference for those of us who rely on trustworthy reviews for buying decisions.
Thanks man, appreciate it. You won't have to wait long for the xgt review...
Do you have a part number for that charger you are using at 9:11
Thank you Sir.
Had no choice but to buy the DMP since I am already invested in the Makita platform. It sucks that there is no trigger lock 🤦♂️
The fact that makita didn't make a trigger hold is insane! Dewalt and Milwaukee both have the feature that let you set them and walk away.
Didn’t find this to be a issue for me 🤷🏻♂️ it’s a safety thing, if you are planning on inflating a giant wheel witch this is not designed for then it will be annoying sitting there for a long time, it inflated my motorcycle wheel in a very reasonable time.
@@Aladinscave Unnecessary "safety thing".... you set the psi on the control screen and it shuts off even if you are holding trigger.. what a wast of time ....
Stop crying . it's simple to make your own. it's a 10min maximum on 5 off though so it is a safety issue to not have one. . Just deal with it.
@@Aladinscave 💯%
I have to hold the inflator when I use my big compressor ..what is the difference.
Awesome video thank you
No problem.
Lovely - and I just bought the 180 for my car.
Smaller is better when you have limited cargo space. I’m no about to time myself though. What’s the time when you need to, say, get a tire up to 32PSI after it leaks down to 20PSI? Just what I’d need to get my car to a shop ...
Battery voltage? Keep it the same as your impact wrench and you need carry but one battery.
That's exactly what I did. Got my 18V 1/2" impact wrench with a 21mm deep socket, a Harbor Freight torque adapter, a 15" breaker bar, and this 18V inflator and I'm good to go for all tire changes lol.
Why did you scrap that van, I’d so love to have one of those.
I prefer the new screw type attachment better, prevents damage if tyre it flat and u are pushing the valve back.
Much prefer the quick clamp. In some instances it’s difficult to add air with a straight hose: for example reaching behind a hubcap.
You can buy an adapter and srew it on. If the seal in adapter breaks from squeezing, you could buy a new adapter and your tool itself is still ok. So I prefer the DMP181 over the DMP180.
What battery charger is that one?
Another great video. The simplest thing is that Makita should just sell an adapter that you screw on yo the end that lets you clamp to a valve the way the 180 does. Then you have the best of both worlds. Like you said, a lock on the button is missing, but what I would also like to see is a low pressure, high volume mode for blowing up paddle pools and the like.
I believe he tried to demonstrate that with the 181 on the rugby ball, but there was too much pressure.
@@1d1hamby no, this inflator does not have a low pressure mode. It is the kind of inflator used for air mattresses and paddle pools. I keep a cheap one in the same case as my DMP180, so I have them handy in the same place.
Wonder if the handheld blower would work for that with a reducer on the end.
I’m at a loss as to why makita doesn’t make a proper LXT or XGT cordless air compressor. Seems like they could just strap one or two of these to a 5 or 10 litre tank. And call it a day.
Wait, what is the point of the auto shutoff if you have to hold it? The entire point of auto shutoff is to increase safety and convenience. It actually can be dangerous to sit next to the tire while it's inflating. Even my much cheaper Ryobi has this feature.
Would like to see a new makita x2 lxt miter saw with a cast shadow and better miter gauge.
The pressure gauge in the 180 is very in accurate.
Hi Great video - what is the model number of your LCD Makita battery charger you are using? is running 240v or 110v?
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I use DMP180 mostly to inflate mtb tires. The valve connector and the auxiliary adapters are like straight from 1981, not 2021. I really wish it had a valve connector that can handle both Presta and Schrader valves. Why not, there are floor pumps and pressure gauges with such connectors. And for my preference it should be quick connect type. Tyre pressure check is my daily routine (especially tubeless mtb tires often lose pressure). It is too slow and cumbersome with the connector that accompanies DMP180 for Presta valves. But I think all in all it would be the best if the hose had a connector onto which you can screw any kind of end, and then of course Makita would provide a sufficient variety of different connectors. - I like the improved display and deflate button on the newer model. I would like to be able to calibrate the pressure gauge. I have three gauges that give same readings between them. Makita's values differ slightly, by 1-2 PSI.
I’ve got the 181, and I’ve got it set up with a prestacycle big head inflator for my mtb and roadie and quick clip right angle schrader head for the bmx. Works like a charm and saves so much time topping off the many many bikes in our house. From the reviews the 181 is a bit faster too apparently.
@@hereticus1994 never seen or heard of the prestacycle range before. Just googled it.
It’s a game changer for these inflators, thank you very much!!!
The best feature of the new one was that I got the old one for peanuts.
I found the 180 to be very accurate
Is it just me who can`t find the size of the car tyre in the video?
I`ve got a (4x4 dual pump) 12V compressor at home with different tyre size inflation times and would like to compare it to the new Makita.
I usually prefer to use a quick connect, but would rather have a threaded connection attached to the tool, and can add on a screw on quick connect. That way it is replaceable if/when it stops working well.
my original got stolen so I upgraded, duty cycle thing is awesome but I miss the quick clamp on.
Any videos on Makita corded or cordless vacuums? Don’t know if I should get the 4 or 11gallon… or wait on a 40/80v all together
Only what I talked about in this video czcams.com/video/V2T7axr4KDE/video.html There is also another, more basic one, without AWS and only dry.
quick release much preferred
I have the older one for mountain bike tires and it kinda sucks. Like with your empty balls I've notices that it can't really deal with starting and measuring low pressures like 5 psi or ~0,3 bar and up. I have to over pressure the tire and then lower it with a pressure gauge which kinda defeats its purpose. For a car tire it's fine.
why Makita has not a trigger hold : incredible. I have Makita platform but I won't buy a Makita inflator till this issue is solved ! strange from Makita Cie , they don't read the comments ???
Whats that Makita battery diagnostic device called at the 9:10 mark? I looked on makitas site and cant find anything close to that.
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In would like to see how the British attachment works ?
Saw a hack where you can drill a small hole in the handle through the trigger and insert the ball needle to hold it down.
brilliant, even more so because I don't otherwise use the ball needle 🏀 💉 🏀
What is that Makita battery device on the video that shows charge count, voltage, etc? Do you have a part number?
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Never had a screw down inflator, but I hate the click down style for sure. I want to get this for that reason alone
G'day mate. Thanks for the video, I ended up buying the DMP 181 & have a question please, does the autostop kicks in precisely at the air pressure selected? On mine it kicks in 3Psi over the pre-selected air pressure everytime, so I pre-select 35Psi & the autostop kicks in at 38Psi. Is that normal because if it is not I will go get a replacement.
Thank you.
mine does the same thing, it adds 2-3 PSIs
@@RYN988 Thanks brother. I checked it with Makita as well and they said it's normal with these new inflators.
OK, amending my last question... is it only a voltage/charge Guage with the readouts and NOT a charger? Or does it charge as well? (*This may be why I can't seem to find it via my searches)
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Filling car tires with DMP181 is not as easy as with the DMP180. Why they had to change the head from tratitional...
The screw on valve seems a better fit although would be annoying trying to get it on the thread right to start. But it would be more secure than just the push on valve. IMO.
You should do a test between the big bertha with the 5ah battery vs a 3ah or/and a 6ah battery. I know it can make a big difference with the drill so would expect it to make a difference with this. Your time would be a lot slower with the 3ah and faster with the 6ah I think.
Also, I have a Ranger with the big all terrains on it. Would like to see how it goes with that.
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Screw on = bought. I have the small one and I can't reach behind my backwards truck tyres to attach it. I have been using dewalt.
I prefer the screw lock on the dmp181z over the clip style. The hose freely rotates so its easier to attach/screw. Hate that you have to hold the trigger down.
Screw on version is not always possible to connect on some motorbike tires. So while the screw on is great can't always use it.
I have the smaller version and like the more compact size. Will probably never use it to fill a large tire from zero, just top them off. I like to keep mine in my truck. It would like to see which one is more efficient, how much can you get from one battery?
How long for a top off?
Can you please share a link for the battery checker?
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Where can I get that Makita battery checker thing that looks like a charger with a screen? I'm in the usa
Have a look in the description of this review I did on it. czcams.com/video/uumwieLu8CE/video.html
As far as the Schrader valve goes I don't like either as neither will fit onto my wheelbarrows or mulcher wheels, so I have to take the wheels off and trundle up to the servo and fill up there as their schrader valve is offset and double headed so it can come back on itself. This to me is a major flaw that would be simple for Makita to fix, but it pumps up pool toys etc easily. So come on Makita Fix it. Cheers
For pressure testing heating systems I bought the smaller 18v before there was any news of the bigger one. Its hard not to feel scammed because I would've certainly bought the bigger one. The smaller one kind of struggles with bigger systems.
Do you think the 18v is good for pressure testing gas line?
Hmm what systems are you testing? Isn't nitrogen usually used for that sort of thing?
I have just used Air to pressure test heating systems before filling them
I usually pressure test main gas line to my manifold and all the appliances. It's usually 2" hard pipe. Do you think the older 18v will do the job? I hate lugging around an actual air compressor
I prefer quick clip on older one. I'm using it mostly on bicycle tires and kid's balls and the older one is just quick and strong enough for my needs. My car have it's own compressor in it's tire repair set, so I don't need this in my car. I see the new one still missing lock on button with automatic stop function at set pressure.
Hey man did you experience any problems with the pump over-shooting? I just got mine, and once the pump reaches the set pressure, the display stays there for a while but the pump keeps going. When the pump finally shuts off, the display suddenly jumps to the current pressure, which is usually 4psi higher than I set. Then I have to fiddle around deflating. If I'm just topping up my tires, it ends up doubling the time it takes.
Seems like they messed up some tuning or specifications in the factory.
I have had this same thing happen with the DMP181, but only with low profile 18" tires so far. I'm not sure how that could affect it. With more common sizes it stopped just right.
What is the name of the charger with a screen ?
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Where did you get that makita battery health thingy?
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I am a huge fan of your tests from Poland. I want to buy a cordless hammer drill. I am thinking of choosing Makita HR004gz or DeWalt dch333. Which you would recommend to me. Unless you make such a comparison? You can take Hikoki, Hilti or some other companies to the list.
The 333 is the most common here. But if you are starting platforms from scratch then I would go for the 004
Thank you for the answer and advice
I wonder if any of these infiltrators could seat the tyre to the rim on a tubeless MTB
I'm guessing that was an auto correct error... And I doubt it.
Can you use it as a dust blower?
No.
I sorta hate the clamp on thingy, that said I have the new one here and will send it back. For one, it tends to overfill by a rather large margin (talking car tires here). Also, the screw on connector will result in non exact pressures over all4 wheels since you loos a ton of air while detaching. And that bugs the hell out of me. Finally having the wheels at precisely the same pressure actually was the killer feature for me on the old one and the reason I got that in the first place. For what I do (just refilling a bit) the smaller one just is the better tool, it tucks away nicely under a false boot floor, it's precise and it's affordable...I'll keep that!
💥 9:57 “I’m going to lube up my balls with some of this 3 in 1 oil”…. 🤣🤣