Top 3 Ford EcoBoost Rattles and How To Fix Them. Must Watch!!!!
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- čas přidán 8. 08. 2023
- Listen carefully as I explain the top 3 rattles with the Ecoboost. Here are a couple part numbers to help you replace some of the malfunctioning parts you have. Please like and subscribe to my channel page and check out my tons of videos. Thanks
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Catalytic converters and Cam phasers have to he purchased from your local Ford Dealer. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
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Good tips brother. Cam phaser lock outs! Ford engineers listen to man. He on something👍🏽 Good video brother hit them engineers on the head💪🏾
Thanks brother. Yeah the 3.5 has its issues. Come on Ford. Let’s fix this shit. 🤷🏻♂️
Awesome information brother! Thanks again. This will help us all. 🍻🍺
Thanks bro. I sure appreciate it. 🤙🏼
Great video. I have a 2019 5.0 and love it! I’m 61, so it may be my last truck. A friend of mine has a 2020 raptor and experienced all the rattles you did.
Thank you so much. Yeah it seems to be across the board common rattles among this engine. I’ve owned the 5.0 in my 2016 model and never had any issues. I obviously love my Raptor and the power of the turbos too. Just gotta work these rattles out and it’s ok. 👍🏼
Great video! Just wanted to clarify that the IWE delete does not leave the truck in 4WD 24/7, it just locks the hubs in 24/7. When the knob is set to 2WD, it also disconnects via the transfer case. Which means that an IWE delete allows the front wheels (as they roll on the ground) to spin the front diff - but the front diff is disconnected from the transmission in this scenario. Meaning if you want to use 4WD, you'd still have to use the knob to engage 4WD, and the the transfer case will activate, connecting the front diff to the transmission. Some people have reported great success from this! Others (specifically with lifts) have reported the pinion bearings failing much sooner than expected on the front diff with IWE deletes.
Man this is great information for people that read this. Thank you for your insight James. It is much appreciated 🤙🏼
Such a helpful video. Thank you!
You’re welcome bro. Thanks for watching. 👊🏼
Great information. Thank you
You are quite welcome. 👊🏼
Good information. 😊
Thank you so much.
I have a 2015 Expedition and the 3.5 has been good to me with plenty power. I have done lots of towing with this truck and it impresses me for a gas engine .Only downfall is it is a noisy engine. I put an aftermarket high pressure fuel pump and holy crap i thought the motor was going to blow up without the foam sound supressor over it, it is loud.
That’s awesome that it’s been reliable like that. They are some noisy engines. 🤙🏼
My F-150 is actually at the dealer right now for them to figure out whatever rattle is happening every once in a while on it. They said they have no idea what’s wrong with it. I’ll be asking for my truck back from these morons and I’ll try to fix it myself. Thanks for this video, it’s probably gonna save me a lot of money and time.
You are welcome. Yeah, mine visited the dealer several times, and they could not re-create the rattle. But every time I took it home, it would show itself. They finally got it to act up and replace the cam phasers and VCT solenoids. About two months after that, I noticed the turbo wastegate rattle, and was able to fix that myself. Frustrating for sure.
Ford has spent more money fixing problems than ever befre. It’s the ecoboost. They told dealers NOT to service them unless there is an engine light on.
I replaced 2 sets of IWE hubs before a realized what to do. What i did was remove the vaccum line from the IWE completely and plugged the little male ends on the IWE. Has been fine for the lasr 15k miles
Great info brother. I will definitely share that idea with viewers. Thank you. 🤙🏼
Awesome man thank
You
You are most welcome. 🤙🏼
We have a 2018 F150 with the 3.5 eco-boost. It currently has 52,000 km (about 32,000 miles). It started rattling the other day and I'm told that it needs cam phasers and a timing chain. $4000 repair less than six month after the warranty expired.
If you're thinking of buying Ford, don't.
Ryan that totally sucks and I sure don’t blame you for feeling that way. Ford really needs to step up and do better. Their slogan used to be quality job one, that doesn’t seem to still ring true these days.
Cam phaser issue simple fix is to hold the gas pedal down while cranking for 3-5 seconds to build oil pressure then take your foot off the gas pedal then it will start with no rattle. Helps the phasers build oil pressure before it starts.
Great info. Thank you and I’m sure that will help some that read this. Pumps the oil pressure up and stops the rattle. Nice!!!! 👍🏼
I’m actually replacing my phasers next week along with timing chains and all that. But with these push starts, do you just hold the gas down for a few seconds and then push start it and let off the pedal? Is that what you’re saying basically
Ty ty ty
Lowes didn't have in stock so had them shipped. Going to try to install them this weekend.
There is another short where someone made a fix to the wastegate but didn't show how. Commenter's said he tightened up on the adjustment nut (I believe).
I'm coming from an 09 escalade that had the notorious (but unknown to me until it happened) lifter fail at 153000 miles. I could go on and on about it and add how it could be deleted but ultimately it came down to cost and reliability. Nothing that I've researched gas indicated that theses noises lead to failure. They are just that, noises that can be delt with.
With that said, I'm loving my used 2018 family truckster, the Lincoln Navigator with the Raptor engine.
That’s great that you got the springs ordered. That really should fix the noise. Glad to see you came over from the GMC / Cadillac side to the Fords. Let me know how it goes. Glad I could help.
Thank you 🙏
You are most welcome. Hope my video helped.
The only other thing I can think of you can do is to go to a thicker oil. 10W30 instead of 5W20 - to prevent bleed off.
I had the cam phaser issue on my 2015 Expedition with 3.5 ecoboost. I bought the truck with 150k miles on it and solved the problem by flood starting the engine by holding the gas pedal to the floor and cranking the engine until the oil pressure showed normal. I also switched to Penzoil full synthetic oil with the OEM Motocraft filter and changed the oil every 5k miles. After about 20k miles, the rattle is gone and I no longer flood start the engine.
Great advice man. I sure appreciate that information. 👊🏼
How long did you do the flood for ? Every day for a few weeks?
@@cheizaguirre5494 I set my gauges to display the oil pressure on startup and kept the gas pedal to the floor until the gauge read Pressure OK. I did this for several months but it gradually took less time for the pressure to build. It also built pressure quicker in warm weather. The rattle was pretty much gone by my third 5k oil change. It's been below zero for the past week and the oil pressure is there every time without having to flood start and no rattle.
If you have a catch can like I do, you also need to be sure to empty it at least every 5k miles when you change the oil. Otherwise it does more harm than good because all that gunk gets recycled in the engine. The can was full when I bought the vehicle and the dealership didn't empty the can when I had them change the oil because it is an aftermarket part and I don't think they knew it needed to be emptied.
@@Roy-ij1wq okay thanks. Does that priming out wear on any components in the engine or even the starter ?
@@cheizaguirre5494 It may impact the starter. I just had to have mine replaced at 175k miles. My 2007 Expedition with the Triton V-8 went 220k before the starter went out. I think salt and corrosion are bigger factor.
I had the startup rattle and diesel noise on the phasers/timing chains at about 20k miles on my 19 f150 3.5L eboost. Ford fixed it on warranty and its been mint since then. At about 45k the thermostat housing cracked, they covered that also. Only issue left is the wastegate rattle for about a minute on a cold start. The springs is my next mod haha. Great video!
Thank you. Glad they got you fixed up and yep the springs will be the last and cheapest fix. 👊🏼
the 4x4 sound is because that vacuum pulls it out of 4 wheel drive. if you lose vacuum it goes into 4 wheel drive. as they wear out they leak a little and slightly engage and the teeth on the gears is what you hear making noise.
I have a 2015 with the 5.0 coyote and wouldn’t have anything else. I hope it’s my last truck. I’ve heard that using a good quality oil is critical for the variable cam solenoid, so I been using Amsoil since I bought it new!
Awesome. I had the 2016 5.0 for 5 years before with not one issue either. Strong stable engine for sure. Thanks for the tip on Amsoil oil also. 👍🏼
Great video with explanation. The other rattle is the sunroof rattle. It drove me nuts. I thought it was the dash. It wasn’t till I saw another video that I realized the seals on the sunroof get dry and rattle. Ford uses GPL 205 grease by Ktytox. It’s expensive and tedious but it works. I’ve seen videos of silicone line spray also working.
Thanks man. Also thanks for the added rattle explanation. I’ll definitely pass that on to those people trying to troubleshoot their rattles. 🤙🏼
I was looking at Raptor with 175k miles 😅
I already did cam phasers on my ford 5.3l 3 valve engine
I do know how to fix it but justifying $30k to wife than having to buy $1500 dollars for parts I don’t know if I’m ready 🤣🤣
Thanks great video
Thanks bro. Man I tell ya, it is a hard pill to swallow. Even doing it yourself it’s still expensive. Especially after buying at these car prices these days 👊🏼
There’s a 4th rattled I’ve found on the 11-14 f150s any motor and the 15-present f150s and expedition there’s a heat shield rattle it’s from the driver side crossover pipe put a couple hose clamps on it and you’re golden
I’ve put 2 clamps on my buddys 14 coyote f150 my moms 18 expedition 3.5 and my 16 f150 3.5 fixed the rattle on all of them 😂
Man that’s awesome Info for people that can’t find the 4th rattle. Thanks for that tip bro. 👊🏼
haha - had I seen this vid before buying an ecoboost i woulda stayed away
Im tellin ya. Ford needs to be held accountable for these engines doing this, and not just within the warranty period. It’s clearly an across the board issue that needs recalled.
If your trucks past the 60k mile or whatever warranty. Your better off just replacing the cam phasers when needed. The extended warranties cost twice as much as the repair does lol
Great advice bro. Thanks👊🏼
Absolutely ridiculous that you have to worry about this crap after paying $80,000
Brother I totally agree. I had a buddy asking me if I would recommend the Ecoboost for him as he is looking to buy. I said absolutely not if it’s your daily driver and it’s out of warranty used.
Mine never rattled until about 65000, I like it, they are good if you change your oil every 4k miles. Maybe if they didn’t become so expensive there’d be worth it, but if ima pay 80k I’m gonna get a v8, forgot to say. Only thing that’s rattling is the skid plate. Only thing changed since bought was the tires brakes and oil. And has perfect mapping at the moment.
Why not ? Audi and Bmw you pay double that and get more than that .
Great video man, I will try the turbo spring hack. How much did they charge you to change the cam phasers. Just came back from the dealer, they were trying to charge me $6,500 for mine. I thought to search for second opinion before I commit.
Thanks bro, man that’s a crazy high price. Mine was upper $2k to around $3k after tax and everything the dealer put on me. Try a different dealer for sure and tell them you want the updated cam phasers and VCT solenoids used. You don’t want the old design. Ttyl.
Thanks for sharing the video! With the IWE rattle did it seem to go away when you would tap the brakes? Not sure if I’m experiencing the same rattle.
You are welcome. Yes, Mine would chatter loudly for a couple seconds then either go away on its own or when I hit brakes. 🤙🏼
Mine either goes away from tapping the brakes or if I leave it, it seems like the rattle spools up more and more frequent and then lets go and I am good for a bit. Very sporadic timing though. Sounds like the issue is with the IWE.
Yep for sure. I would bet IWE
I got the exact springs you posted to fix the waste gate rattle, but mine seems too long to hook tightly to the oil return tube on the bottom of the turbo! Did you have to modify your spring at all to make it snug? Thanks for the info, btw! That rattle was driving me NUTS!
If you have to, take the spring back off and use two pairs of needle nose, pliers, to make another bend and shorten the spring end. You’re welcome bro. 👍🏼
Does it affect the operation of the Turbo by putting the spring on it? Causing back pressure? How long have you had the spring installed?
Thank you for the info video.
I’ve had it installed 6 months and absolutely no issues. The spring is not strong enough to hold it closed like that. Just a bit of tension to stop the rattle. I give you my word you will not experience any negative side effects. 👍🏻
Thanks for the info. It works!
@@LivinWith3MHow many inches was the added tension spring??
Love my Ecoboost too!!
I got a 2014 with 150k. First thing I did was order full bore / polished exhaust manifolds. They came with new head studs and a stainless gasket. I drive the crap out of mine too, spark plugs are done every 24k and I do oil changes every 4k with only motorcraft oil and filter. Just replaced thermostat , cylinder head temp sensor and every related fuse and rely. Only use Motorcraft thermostats. My 3 Rd Ford truck and ive had to wrench on every one but I love em over most.
I would check your oil filter my 2013 5.0l was cam phasers were rattling need a motorcraft oil filter to stop the rattling
Thanks for that info John. Appreciate it brother. I’m sure some of the subscribers here may definitely need to hear that. 🤙🏼
Decent video, some of what you said about the iwe's is false. I got 140k pushing 150k and my truck has been worked hard it's whole life, Outside of the cam phasers no issues. Btw zero converter issues and I'm running The delete kit on my IWE's. Just did a 800 mile trip a couple weeks ago. I would take an EcoBoost with 200,000 mi over a coyote with 50,000.
Thank you for your perspective. I really appreciate it. Any valuable Information like yours helps people who read these comments. Awesome! 🍻👊🏼
How do I know which spring to use from that assorted box? Hate the rattling on the turbo
How I did it was just grab a spring you think looks close to that length. Then use your hands and stretch to put it on. You should not need tools like pliers to fit these on. You want it to fit snug but not super tight. If the spring is too tight then you will notice your boost gauge won’t boost like normal. Then go to a looser fitting spring. 👍🏼
My 2018 3.5 had all those issues. Under warranty they had to replace the wore out hubs from the grinding. 84000 miles, out of warranty cam phaser issue. Do you know about how much that would be to get fixed ?Thanks, Jacksonville Florida.
Man I hear you. I did hear of cam phaser dealer prices going from $2500 to $4000. Not sure why the big price difference from dealer to dealer. But it’s not cheap. Good luck man.
Ouch,thanks brother
had my PCM reprogrammed (under customer satisfaction program 21b10) on my18 raptor due to phasers at 72k and got an extended warranty of 1yr or 12k miles in case they needed replaced later, at 85k phasers started acting up and I was out of warranty. Now I need to come out of pocket for the repairs.
Man I sure hate to hear that.
Ty
You are most welcome.
I have a 2018 raptor I get a rattle when accelerating when I get to about 25 mph the rattle lasts for about 2 seconds then goes away.. mechanic shop tried to tell me it’s my timing belt but I don’t think they put it in 4wd when they test drove it, when in 4wd it’s makes no noise?
I would bet on the IWEs going out. Please check that before spending a ton of timing chain or belt.
@@LivinWith3M thanks 👍 yeah if it was the timing belt I would think it would make that sound whether in 4wd or 2wd it only makes it in 2wd, the truck only has 75k miles on it and I barely drive it.. thanks for the info!
@gjs_5554 your welcome bro. If you think to let me know what you find out I would appreciate it. 🤙🏼
@@LivinWith3M definitely will do
#4 clean and lube up the moon roof seal
Very good tip! Thank you. Yes that will prevent rattles and also the infamous trac binding and breaking like so many have. 👊🏼
5.o is the way to go
I respect that. I’ve had many 5.0engines over my life. Love them. 👍🏼
Your description of the IWE delete is not quite correct. When you do the delete, it is locking the axles so they will now turn with the wheels. You are not locking it in 4WL. It’s still in 2WD until you turn the switch on the dash.
Thanks Jeff for that correction. Makes sense and I hope the viewers will read your helpful comment and be advised. I sure appreciate that. 👊🏼
@@LivinWith3M anytime brother. I hope I didn’t sound like an ass trying to correct you because that was not my intention at all. Just trying to help a brother out. BTW (at least I believe that’s the way it works) 😂. Have a great day
Not at all bro. I really do value your information and help. 👊🏼
@@LivinWith3M 👊🏻
Will to trade my 2018 f150 3.5 for a scooter or a tacoma... Any year
I can certainly understand the frustration.
I bought one yesterday .. 2017 raptor 😅 and it rattles after I step on it 😢
Man, I hate that. Please have it checked asap.
I had a 2018 with 5.0 Coyote dumped it to damn noisy and 2 quarts of oil to 3000 miles
I can sure understand your frustration bro.
I bought one first. I did the research Later.
I totally understand. A lot of people do. 🤙🏼
Wastegate Rattle still an issue on 2023 Ecoboost?
Supposedly they fixed all rattles on newer models but hopefully someone will chime in with a newer Raptor for verification. 🤙🏼
I'm pretty sure after 2016 the wastegates are all electronic
How many milles does it have and it steal have that rattle
Mine started at 48k miles. I have conquered all my rattles as of now.
@@LivinWith3M how long did you run it with that rattle
Oh as soon as I started hearing it I started researching and I would say only 1000 miles before fixing it. I had warranty to replace the cam phasers and then I fixed the turbo wastegate rattle easy enough with the springs, and the IWE you can just unplug until you have money to get them replaced.
Don't do cold starts,you have to prime the engine, by holding the acceleratetor to the floor about 5-10 seconds, then turn everything loose at same time, you are priming engine with oil, and you want have that rattle on cold start up, it's OK when the engine is warm,try that 😊
Man that is very interesting. I will definitely give that idea a try. Thank you. 🤙🏼
"then turn everything loose at same time" - not sure what that means ... explain please
@@williamh2594 the ignition key & accelerator
Just take your foot completely off the accelerator, and it will start.@@williamh2594
@@williamh2594 yeah got confuse when he said turn everything loose at the same time
You would think at the price of these new vehicles these companies could get them correct. I believe these cam phasers have been bad for years of model runs as if Ford made so many, knew about them and hoped people would not drive enough miles to get them to fail under warranty. Problem solved next sucker gets screwed with cost of repairs.
Man I totally agree. 🤦🏻♂️
There are two youtubers I highly recommend every ford owner subscribe to. Flying Wrenches and ford makuloco
Will do Brian. Thank you.
I use my truck to go back-and-forth to the gym and occasionally I will pick up some thing for work with it when I can’t use my van and the problems I’m having with this vehicle. It’s just ridiculous. I think I’m done with.ford
The Ecoboost definitely comes with its share of issues to address for sure. But once we address the cam phasers with the updated ones, then replace iwe on the front hubs, possibly put two springs on turbo linkage to stop rattling and usually it fixes most rattles. I still love my fords. Just my opinion.
Took my 2016 ecoboost truck to Ford Dealer 2 years ago because of the noise. Said they can’t do anything unless the engine light is on. I asked if a mechanic could at least drive it and they said no. Unless/Until an engine light comes on… It finally did. 2 yrs later. Blown engine due to failure of the Variable Timing Control Phasers and Ford KNEW about this. It would have been covered by the warranty but not now. I’m out $16,000!!! Please beware!
Omg that is absolutely terrible. I hate you experienced that. Hopefully people will read this and now we know that in some instances the check engine light will not show cam phaser issues. The dealer should have replaced the vct solenoids and phasers at time of complaint knowing the history of these faulty components. Thank you for your insight.
Ford quality is the worst!
I have 2017 / 3.5 eco-boost Cam-phaser defective engineering and no recall! 😮
It’s two to $3000 the repair at a dealership !
Man I totally get your frustration. 🤦🏻♂️😖
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Thank you.
@@LivinWith3M No, I mean these Android consoles are garbage.
Gotcha. For sure they are just that. I constantly have issues from mine. Thanks.
Speak Up
I just went back and watched the video and have no issues with volume on my end. Hmmm 🤔
@@LivinWith3M I think he means in regards to making ford accountable for "budget engineering".
Gotcha. That does make sense. Thanks. 👊🏼
Alright guys what you ganna wanna do is trade in your ford and get absolutely anything else.
Only if other makes have zero issues. Let me know. I’ll wait.