I’m a Ford guy (don’t know why) I’ve lost all hope in their competence on designing timing chain systems. They’ve been having these issues since 1997 when they started sohc motors. With every new model year I always assume they must have fixed any previous timing set issues, then a video like this comes along. Shake my head again!
I think our 2018 has the cam phaser problem but ours is very quiet compared to yours. August 2018 build. 23K miles. I've read reports of people taking their trucks to the dealer to get the problem fixed but some still experience the sound after the dealer replaced a bunch of things including all 4 cam phaser units. Sounds to me like a design flaw that will always have problems no matter what you do.
Entirely possible. And certainly design flaws are involved. But don't quit bringing it in (as frustrating as I know it is!). Make Ford pay for it! You spend too much of your hard earned money on a truck like this, to live with defects.
just got my raptor back from a 1 month engine repair for the same issue and a couple other things repair lasted 2 days and camphaser rattle cam back and now I have a new problem with the trans making a grinding noise hope the fix held up on your truck
@@BrentFritzler Crap, I will keep an eye/ear on it. Did not have any issues with a 2014 same engine I guess the "2nd Gen" is the bad one for what I research.
Just bought my 2017 had it for 2 weeks took it back to the dealer for same issue and they didn’t want to fix it for free .until I told them to keep the truck
The 2.7 is built better the phasers on the 3.5 seem to have some issues I have the 2.7 it's so quiet and smooth plenty of power and I'm at 23.9 mpg imo the 2.7 is the best engine option Ford has
Ford just fixed it for the 3rd time..they just replaced 4 phasers all 4 vct solenoids both timing chains and both tensioners. Hope it works this time..
@Brent, where the previous two times before the new cam phaser design? I believe that was late 19', which seemed to have solved the problem for most.. HL3Z-6256-CD
Auto start stop has nothing to do with the phases it's about the oil pressure after it's been sitting for a while if Ford did a longer crank to bring up oil pressure the phaser wouldn't rattle. If ppl did a flood mode for first start of the day if would solve a lot of ppls problems. Ppl who don't understand engines are bad for engines
@@mattwagner8965 yeah I thought about it after I posted it, once the engine is warmed up and the oil is everywhere the auto start-stop is not a problem
Cam phaser?😆😆😆🤦🏻♂️good lord waaaaaayyyy off. Ecoboost is known for chain rattle (that’s exactly what I heard) at start up. In most cases doesn’t ever break or harm anything. You’ll notice most Toyota’s have start up chain rattle too. Takes a few seconds for the oil tensioners to get oil to them to push on the guide rods
I’m a Ford guy (don’t know why) I’ve lost all hope in their competence on designing timing chain systems. They’ve been having these issues since 1997 when they started sohc motors. With every new model year I always assume they must have fixed any previous timing set issues, then a video like this comes along. Shake my head again!
I think our 2018 has the cam phaser problem but ours is very quiet compared to yours. August 2018 build. 23K miles. I've read reports of people taking their trucks to the dealer to get the problem fixed but some still experience the sound after the dealer replaced a bunch of things including all 4 cam phaser units. Sounds to me like a design flaw that will always have problems no matter what you do.
Entirely possible. And certainly design flaws are involved. But don't quit bringing it in (as frustrating as I know it is!). Make Ford pay for it! You spend too much of your hard earned money on a truck like this, to live with defects.
just got my raptor back from a 1 month engine repair for the same issue and a couple other things repair lasted 2 days and camphaser rattle cam back and now I have a new problem with the trans making a grinding noise hope the fix held up on your truck
My wife had to have a engine put in her new Edge...it really hard to stay loyal with ford.
Hopefully you lemon lawed it if they weren't able to fix the issue after repeated attempts.
Same issue. Mine is at the dealership right now. 2018 3.5 EB, I hope they fix it correctly.
Now the trans clunks and they say its normal. . Lol
@@BrentFritzler Crap, I will keep an eye/ear on it. Did not have any issues with a 2014 same engine I guess the "2nd Gen" is the bad one for what I research.
Just bought my 2017 had it for 2 weeks took it back to the dealer for same issue and they didn’t want to fix it for free .until I told them to keep the truck
Man you got lucky!! Wait until the dealer tells you about the swollen lug nuts...
Brent Fritzler lol I think I’m going to try and get this truck out my life ASAP
John Dilan I will buy it for 50% off the price you paid.🙂
Mine does that also 2011 3.5 f150. A lot of people have that issue. Ford hasn’t come up with a solution.
They have too, they have a recall on it and have changed parts
Mine did this too...its in now for new phasers. 2018 3.5 w/ 28k
My 3.5 is going in again for the 3rd time
@@BrentFritzler I have ticking again on cold starts....3k miles later.
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The 2.7 is built better the phasers on the 3.5 seem to have some issues I have the 2.7 it's so quiet and smooth plenty of power and I'm at 23.9 mpg imo the 2.7 is the best engine option Ford has
Ford just fixed it for the 3rd time..they just replaced 4 phasers all 4 vct solenoids both timing chains and both tensioners. Hope it works this time..
How’s she holding up?
@Brent, where the previous two times before the new cam phaser design? I believe that was late 19', which seemed to have solved the problem for most.. HL3Z-6256-CD
@@dubTuube it happened again a few weeks ago and I just got rid of it..
@@sponsurd not good... Just got rid of it..
@@BrentFritzler Was it causing a decrease in engine performance?
2016, 130k miles, no auto start/stop. good idea for gas bad idea for engines life
Auto start stop has nothing to do with the phases it's about the oil pressure after it's been sitting for a while if Ford did a longer crank to bring up oil pressure the phaser wouldn't rattle. If ppl did a flood mode for first start of the day if would solve a lot of ppls problems.
Ppl who don't understand engines are bad for engines
@@mattwagner8965 yeah I thought about it after I posted it, once the engine is warmed up and the oil is everywhere the auto start-stop is not a problem
Cam phaser?😆😆😆🤦🏻♂️good lord waaaaaayyyy off. Ecoboost is known for chain rattle (that’s exactly what I heard) at start up. In most cases doesn’t ever break or harm anything. You’ll notice most Toyota’s have start up chain rattle too. Takes a few seconds for the oil tensioners to get oil to them to push on the guide rods
My rattle was so bad all 4 times it sounded like a diesel..
Exactly, 95% of the time it’s harmless.
Then why did Ford replace everything four times...
@@BrentFritzler Either yours fell into the 5% or you had a tech that didn’t know what he was doing haha.
@@BrentFritzler because Ford has a recall out for this very problem.
Thats total B.S!!!
I just got rid of it a few weeks ago..
that sounds terrible lol. Mine has a very minor sound.
Flood mode watch Ford boss me on you tube he'll tell you all about it
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