Is This Viewer's Motherboard ACTUALLY Broken?!
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2022
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In a previous Fix or Flop video, we concluded that a viewer's motherboard was broken... but is this really the case? Today, we'll dive deeper into the mystery!
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Props for showing the oopsie grabbing the wrong bios and trying to flash it. Been there myself a few times. Luckily most boards should catch it, but just a good idea to double check what you're doing.
agreed!
Some board makers make several boards with almost the same model number, very irritating!! 😝😝
I once was trying to flash a board for a friend for like an hour. Thought it was the usb drive’s format or that I renamed the file wrong. I started panicking.
All of a sudden I saw the wifi antenna ports on the IO….realised I was trying to flash the non-wifi BIOS.🤦♂️
10 minutes later were in windows, latest bios and a ryzen 5000 up and running.
To add to this sometimes I bios needs to be updated in increments. I had one last week that couldn't find a valid file even though the latest was on the memory stick.
Updating a bios scares me to fire everytime I do it. Mainly worried about a power surge or outage. I have never bricked a board yet doing it. On my last couple of builds they have the bios flash back feature which makes things a whole lot easier. Great call Greg and what an upstanding person for admitting a simple oversight.
idk if greg is gonna even read this but just gonna say that greg has helped me figure out and fix so many problems with my pc
Glad I could help! :-D
Cool man!
agreed, learnt so much just from this playlist
Shouldn't we be questioning why your PC experiencing "so many problems"?
@@spankbuda7466 …what does that even mean bruh? PC’s last for a very long time in general, and you will come across a lot of issues in those years if you use your PC regularly whether it’s software, or hardware changes / upgrades, incompatibilities cropping up from drivers or updates to BIOS. Could be anything. Glad you never experience issues with your computer but that’s far, far from the norm.
Congrats on 810k! Hope you hit a million. Your channel is so underrated. These videos have helped me out immensely. I appreciate you. And keep these coming.
Much appreciated, Daniel!
Love the fact that you're thoroughness brought you back to this board to figure out if a bios update could help it, Greg. Now this technique is in your tech toolbox forever right alongside with clearing the BIOS, update the BIOS. Don't worry about not catching it previously, you can try to be a perfect troubleshooter but that's too much pressure and unrealistic my dude! Don't sweat not thinking of it previously. We're all learning no matter how much knowledge we already have that's the nature of the tech beast. You rock Greg! And thanks for yet another good video to spread the word on another good technique to add to our tech toolbox!
Thoroughness...I don't think so...it was viewers like me that called this out from day 1...
@@Tink-GB No tech sees it all. No tech makes all the right calls. No tech is perfect. Cool that others saw, thoroughness is going back based on viewer feedback and checking out if that fixed the problem.
I think sometimes you learn more from getting it wrong than getting it right first time. Showing us your slip-ups really does help us 'learn with you'.
Also, don't worry about people calling you out. The DIY PC scene has quite a few cantankerous know-it-all's amongst the mostly pleasant community, as I'm sure you know. Although I'm sure it was your pride more than anything that fueled you to revisit the issue, I'd have done the same thing.
Another great video Greg. I just want to say, I really like how you narrate these videos, you speak as though your audience is part of the team, like we are really there with you going through the process. It’s different than other channels that sometimes feel like they are speaking AT the audience, rather than taking us along for the ride. Just wanted to say, I appreciate that way of doing things, and I’ve been really enjoying your channel. Keep it up! 👌
Its proof that he loves what he's doing. Not just the tech part but also sharing his knowledge and journey with us. Really hard not to love the dude!
I had a similar issue with the exact same board when I updated the bios to the latest one 2 months or so ago. I was getting ready to upgrade from a 3000 series to a 5000 series. What I did was re-flash the board with 4204 and everything worked like it should.
thanks to your videos I was able to help my friend with his problem, 10/10 content completely underrated, ppl should realise how valuable this content is, big thanks
Very much appreciated! 🙏
That's a really interesting video. Could never imagined that I would be that hooked for a bios update video. The details like the focus on the debug lights was the cherry on top of the cake. Kudos for you Greg.
I can so relate to this video. Many times as a tech (retired now) I found that I was so locked into the possible source of the problem that I refused to consider other possibilities. I had my manager tell me when I was first starting out, never overlook the obvious. Or to quote my favourite consulting detective, "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has the data".
what if not even the keyboard turns on and no screen, i tried to flash the bios with usb
Thanks for the videos, they are always very well explained, you are always very careful with the details, from the execution of the work to the way of recording the videos. Thank you Greg!
A hug from Brazil!
Hey Greg, I really like how you work on computers. 10 years ago I made the same mistake when I got into computers. You listened to your community and I think this wideo speaks for itself. Awesome job!
This channel has helped me learn more about pc troubleshooting than most big tech channels, Greg is an og.
The videos absolutely help a lot. Your MSI AIO videos raised a red flag when my computer randomly shut down. It turns out that the AIO pump is dead or the liquid inside is contaminated just like what you demonstrated in the videos
i'm really learning a lot from this series. Keep it going Greg, it's always beautiful to learn!
Great that you came back to this issue and made the video on it. I will watch, like and comment on every Fix or Flop video you make.
I really do appreciate this series cause I have the same mobo and was having the same issue and didn't have the time to swap the mobo out. But then I seen all the comments about this mobo and did the bios update when this original video came out and it fixed the problem. This series are truly amazing
Props to you for taking your viewers suggestions and trying them as a fix.
Glad you fixed the board. I was completely convinced that it was the sockets or the power delivery to the dimm sockets
even though this was the kinda problem i would've thought about first on a no post amd chip, i still appreciate every single video Greg posts about troubleshooting. i've learned so much about pcs and how much of a pain in the ass they can be just by watching you, its amazing. thanks again for being such a good tech youtuber, such a 'master'! keep it up, im always going to be one of the first viewers on every fix or flop video you post!
I'm glad you were willing to try out suggestions others had thought of. Even if it failed, it's great to see the process and how to do it. No individual can think of everything all the time, and you did the best of your abilities.
Kinda makes an argument for live streaming fix or flops, although the added stress of juggling chat shit posting and nitpicking may overshadow getting real-time advice from the genuinely helpful.
solid work Greg! Can't think of everything all the time. love your videos
That is the exact board I use, I enjoyed the video as always and it reminded me to check for updates to my board (there were 4 updates). Thanks for the work you put into your videos.
Kudos for sticking at it and finding the solution. But also bear in mind that many pc users would be scared of updating the bios.
Sad that many of these early x570 boards didn't have flashback. Many a board have been dumped as a result. This feature needs to be on boards no matter how "cheap."
It's not a upgraded feature for the PC novice. Manufacturers/retailers do not want to be dealing with bricked board returns and high tech support call volumes. This feature is useless for the vast majority of PC users because they do not mess around with the bios for the most part and most are illiterate when it comes down to this.
@@spankbuda7466 I mean most users won't be overclocking their RAM/CPU, setting PCIe bifrucation, or so on besides enabling XMP, but when say someone wants to upgrade their CPU and need a BIOS update, this feature would be extremely helpful. On top of the fact that not even bios flashback, just a second chip, likely doesn't cost more than 50 cents in bulk considering how small they are.
@@spankbuda7466 You say its for the pc novice, then say the average consumer won't update the bios and are illiterate anyway...so it isnt for the novice?
You then say they don't want to deal with rma, but some boards don't work out of the box with certain cpus... which could result in an rma?
I dont understand what are you trying to say?
My mistake, I was typing and accidentally cleared out "not". But also, when you state that some boards doesn't work with certain CPU's that falls on the end user for not reading the packaging or contacting the manufacturer tech support because of their ignorance. This is when prebuilds are important. Some people shouldn't be building anything without researching and studying first.
@@spankbuda7466 clears that up lol. But in this case it really doesn't always fall on the end user, because lots of b50/x570 boards didn't work with ryzen 5000 out of the gate, so how can a user possibly know that when amd advertise new cpus without explaining any of this? Also even some intel b660 boards have this issue with 12th gen and this is the first gen on that socket!
Holy, huge growth Greg! I still remembered the science studio vids, and to be honest, I still misses some of those early ones lol. Here's to a quick mil milestone!
Great Job with this. I do agree with you, with the newer memory and cpu's the bios seems to be more of a factor then it use to be these days. I think we all learned something today.
I had a similar issue where my new board wouldn't post with DIMMS in a dual channel configuration and it all came down to the mounting pressure of my AIO on the CPU, which is one of the things that I learned watching this series. Thanks Greg for making these videos - we are learning right along with you!
I always learn something new on your channel! Really looking forward to your new fix or flop video. Keep up the great content!
Always enjoy watching your videos. Brings back memories, when I first started getting into computers, and trying to fix others. Nite a decade later, in getting back into them without the gear.
Having a little marathon here as I wasn't home for few days. But I'm actually surprised that you suspect the bios pretty rarely, but like you said few videos ago, we're all here to learn.
804k subs?! Damn Greg I feel like it was just yesterday when you were under 500k. KEEP IT UP MAN! These videos are gold.
Nice video! Have the exact same motherboard and last summer while checking for bios updates I noticed that Asus released 3 versions within a week. I am pretty sure that the2 of them were bugged and the board you have had one of them. Always wait for a couple of weeks before flashing new bios just after release
Awesome video as always. I love these because how much I learn. Just yesterday I was able to fix my ps4. I don’t wanna say it’s because of other tutorials but because how confident you are at opening things up. I figured. What’s the worst that can happen lol. I even posted it. Was super stoked. Thank you for your help and knowledge. Have a great day Greg.
Good on you for being an honest human. Really dug the vid.
Actually, you do not need to rename if you do not use Bios flashback. The renamer is just in case you do not get into bios/EZflash (new cpu with old bios for example) and use one of the usb slots on the back - even without ram or cpu installed.
having a dual bios saved my board! It’s to bad it’s hard to find newer boards with them. Also recommend getting a UPS in case you ever do have some sort of power outage during update.
What kind of board?
Doubt they even make boards with a legacy bios and UEFI bios anymore
@@TheSlickmicks This was an old X99A SLI Plus!
for most new boards you wont need this because even if your bios becomes corrupt you can (atleast in theory) still reflash it with the USB autoflash features. You wont even need CPU/RAM to update/reflash.
Bios updating may be one of the first things you should do in the future. It doesn't take long to do and it seems to fix a lot of problems.
Its a good thing to only update bios if needed.
Last bios update for my motherboard almost broke the whole computer. So bios update doesn't always fix problems but it can also bring problems
@@tubesami i bricked a mobo in a new rig back in 2005. Tryed to update bios just cause i wanted it up to date. Never updated a bios since lol
Dude, never feel bad about overlooking something. It's why, when I'm diagnosing a troubling issue, I have to step back and think about it for a moment. It's always good to just break off for a sec and consider alternatives. You gave that dude a pretty sweet replacement board and a definite upgrade, so you did a solid. Hopefully the viewership continues paying it forward because you are a great example to aspire towards being in the tech youtube space.
Great video. When I watched this video I was thinking bios issue but I thought you had already checked that.. But you apperently did not. This you will never forget again.. Best lesson ever! 👍👍👍
Thanks, Greg! Another honest video like this inspires me to keep pursuing what I wanna do as a career.
Great video! I just wanna mention that most new boards have recovery flash features often called flashback so even if you manage to corrupt your bios you should be able to reflash easily just with a USB stick and some patience!
Nice job! Yeah we figured it was an easy and painless fix, we don't blame you it's really easy to overlook!
After staying up to date on fox or flop I’ve been able to diagnose my pc so quickly even if it wasn’t like completely spot on but figuring out the component that’s causing issues has been super easy thank you Greg! However I still have been unable to figure out the issue of a graphics card I have but thank you for helping me learn so much!
Love the honesty in your videos, thanks for the content Greg.
Hello. Nice video. It's OK simple things get overlooked. I myself have a written checklist for when I do repair - so I don't overlook or skip the simple steps that might result in the fix / repair. Thanks for doing these very good and helpful videos.
Good job! I'm kinda surprised it worked, but glad it did.
I love the vinyl on the wall! Idk if it's new but it definitely caught my eye in this video....Greg you definitely have a great taste.
Keep up the great work!
I picked this motherboard for my first 3950X Build. This board still gives me NIGHTMARES. Can't count how many times I had to pop out the battery. Very picky when it comes to RAM period. Even on the latest bios, enabling XMP will give you a black screen. I passed this X570 TUF Gaming
Plus Wi-Fi to my younger brother, told him don't mess with anything in the bios, and got me the ROG X570-E Wifi, that does actually boot into Safe Mode due to overclocking errors.
This board is infamous for sure Greg. I'm glad you figured it out in the end Keep up the great content.
It's amazing how something so simple can fix such a random malfunction. Very interesting video. And I have that exact same memory.
Loving the honesty and integrity on this channel!
Your thoroughness and honesty is commendable and a great example .
That incorrect date and time is killing my OCD! Great Job and excellent video!!!
Great, cool that it was an easy fix! Nice job 👏!!!!
Greg, I really enjoy your content. Great job!
Hey bud big thank you for this follow up vid found it very interesting
Yay! It's fixed! Nice work, Greg. We all make dumb mistakes, the key is learning and keep trying.
Nice, great work!
Awesome work
Thanks for teaching me most of the gaming computer knowledge I will need to know when I eventually am able to afford my own computer. I will definitely use this if I ever run into the issue.
Glad to see the motherboard is working fine now!
I’m actually considering updating my TUF x570 Plus WI-FI board again due to some random stutters I get on Windows 11. Apparently that BIOS version you tried is now out of beta and it also fixes some “random stuttering due to fTPM”.
Still considering if it’s worth a try. Even though my area is not necessarily known to have random outages, I still get nervous that something will go terribly wrong during a BIOS update.
Oh man, I was SCREAMING 'BIOS' at the TV for the original FoF! 😜
Thank you for the video, it's very cool to share your knowledge on this because it is very difficult to get help. When it come to computers we remplace the faulty part and voilà but it's not always possible or even interesting to invest again and again on older gens. I'm in that case.
I have a motherboard that refuses to turn on when I shortcut the power button. The red light stays on and that's it. The board was functioning I installed win11 by bypassing all the prep requisites (it's a z97 board) I used the pc for a couple of days turning it on and off, then I let it on. When I came back it was apparently on sleep but it refused to wake up when hitting the keyboard or wathever. I turned it off with the shortcut but since then it refuses to turn on again. Actually it did turn on a few times but there was always a issue like vram. The last time it turned on correctly but I had incorrectly plugged the graphic card (arggh) . There was a message on the screen saying power wasn't correctly supplied to the gpu. I turned everything off and correctly plugged the 6 pin vga power. The problem is the motherboard refuses to turn on since then. Everytime I was able to turn it back again I had it unplugged for hours before retrying but this time nothing seems to work.
Do you have idea? Any help would be appreciated :)
Man, BIG KUDOS for being human and admitting to it! Very hard thing to do.
Recently I had issue with RAM modules detected in BIOS, but once it booted into Windows, BSOD happened. Sometimes, it would stay in Windows for quite some time without problems. But later checking using Memory Diagnostics proved that the RAM modules (dual-channel) had issues, therefore memory integrity is something you should check too.
I’ve been having the same issue with the same board, I’m so glad I came across this vid and learning something else to try for a fix before just buying a new mb
sup greg love the vid ive learn alot when i watch your vidz keep it up
Hi Greg. Videos like this one are why I subscribed to your channel and selected all notifications. Only people who put their brains into simple mode can solve simple problems. A video explaining the ins and outs of firmware problems would be helpful.
It might be worth adding a BIOS update section to every fix or flop from now on, just to be on the safe side 🤷🏾♂️ at least it gives the hardware the best chance going forward, whether it's updating to fix issues like memory compatibility or just updating for the sake of being up to date with it
Agreed, just gotta be careful with these things, don’t want to use a version that doesn’t support the CPU
Bios flash is scary biscuits.. but never be afraid to just go for it. Can fix so much. Lol.
Excellent video and excellent series
Love to learn from you mate
Awesome video, and the Starset and Breaking Benjamin records on the wall look amazing!
Greg great videos, keep up the good work!
Not to much tech jargon for regular people who aren't pc techs.
UEFI-BIOSes, even from good brands, can cause weird behavior if it has bugs.
Love the videos Greg...I dig your approach and everything in regards to this series. (And the channel! almost 2 years subscribed!) Though ONE thing that stuck out for me about this one...was the customer having a 4 core CPU on a X570! Please excuse my "snobbery", but it seems like the motherboard is far more than what the CPU was designed for. I ALMOST wanted to reach out and sell your customer a Ryzen 3700x I have handy now after upgrading to a 3rd Gen 5,000 series Ryzen CPU. My apologies if this observation offends anyone!😉
I really admire your honesty regards trouble-shooting
Good vid Greg, thanks for the follow up! What’s your opinion of updating a MB Bios if it’s working OK?
I had a BIOs issue a few months back. I swapped my 3700x to a 5950x and for some reason the new CPU did not work with the latest BIOs update. I would try to load into any games and it was just restart my PC. Tried everything I learned from this series to try to figure out what was wrong with the new CPU. After weeks to testing and trying things out, my PC stopped restating and all I had to do is roll back to an old BIOs. So from everyone that watches your series and your content I wanna thank you for all you do to help us out. 🙌🙌🙌
I have this exact board and every now and then the Dram LED stays on, but now I know how to update the firmware, I will do that. Thank you so much!
Omg I’ve just noticed, you have a signed vinyl of /Vessels/ by Starset?? That’s so cool! Respect!
Brooo you got a signed STARSET VESSELS vinyl? Thats some great taste my friend. Amazing band and album.
That was my first X570 board. Still have it, powers my Plex server. All my other systems I switched to the X570 TUF Pro (Wi-Fi). Memory seems more robust on the Pro. Glad you got it sorted :)
Well Greg don't be too hard on yourself. Just remember that you are running solo on all these things.. Most people like Linus or Jayz2cents have a team and sometimes small suggestions can make a huge difference and save a lot of time. Your hardware skills is amazing and I believe that your software skills is also super, you just didn't think of it and there was no one giving that "Maybe BIOS" suggestion. Sometimes you just can't think of it all at once. Kudos for making another video about it and sorting it out. My dream is to just build and fix PC's like you. I just absolutely love PC's and everything about it.
Proud of you man, you have come such a long way!
Reinhardt from South Africa
My friend had this exact same motherboard for his build and had the exact same issue. After nearly doing everything I could, switching his GPU to the second PCIE slot managed to make it POST. Immediately ran a BIOS update and he's been running smooth ever since. Goes to show how important it is to always update your BIOS to remedy these annoying issues. Seems like this board in particular had this problem a lot more than others, thank you ASUS quality control.
Hey Greg, do not be hard on yourself. Some people can have many years of experience in computer repair and still miss stuff. It's the nature of computers, sometimes they can sometimes throw up weird and non-predictive stuff. The best thing you can do is what you are doing, persevere and persistence is key.
Nice one … yeah compatibility can be a Pita … and some times it’s the simple solutions that you might forget about or overlook that solve the problem
This is one of those things that should be in the same category as clearing the cmos
Greg, everyone makes mistakes. Don't beat yourself up over it. Really appreciate your videos, its really nice to see someone so humble and knowledgeable at the same time in the tech space.
now THIS is some serius troubleshooting. i fixed a "dead" mobo thanks to you mate!
With this video I will check my bois tonight when I get home. Very think about updating it until there's a problem. Great video Sir.
wow that is great news, well done Greg, i goot two pc that is over two years old, do you think i should update the Bios??? or leave it alone??, keep up the good work
Greg ur a great guy keep up the great content ❤
thanks greg, its help me for my old setup when i replace new cpu on unsupported motherboard , i gonna learn my mistake on check what is support for my cpu. thanks alot
I’ve never been this early lol you’ve helped me learn a lot from these videos thank you!
Thanks for the support!
I own a TUF GAMING X570 PLUS (WI-FI). I had a plethora of booting issues for the first few months of ownership. Every time a new BIOS would come out I would update it and everything would work fine for a few months. Then, boot loops. My issue seemed to be a combination of a 5600X and 3600 MHz CL18 Vengeance low-profile RAM. That orange light would come on CONSTANTLY. I appreciate you taking the time to revisit this because it made me less apprehensive about installing 4403 (which is out of beta phase now).
That was pretty awesome
thank you for the video
though updating the bios is the most risky thing to do
Your only human, good to see u got it working.
Thanks for the videos
Couple things:
First, I would never go straight for a "Beta" version of ANYTHING when attempting to troubleshoot something with an updated version of something. Start with the latest STABLE version and THEN and only then, test the beta version. Especially with a BIOS, once you update to that beta version, you may no longer be able to downgrade the BIOS back to the latest stable version if you run into bugs that are being caused by the beta build.
Second, the BIOSrenamer tool has nothing to do with whether or not the BIOS can be read by the board and flashed via normal means (through the BIOS flash utility within the BIOS). The BIOSrenamer tool is specifically for renaming the BIOS file for BIOS *Flashback* functionality (if the board has it).
I have the same motherboard!!! I really liked seeing this one!! love the show bro
I do not have a UPS in case of Power Failure so i have only updated BIOS just about 3x before while holding my breath🎉😢.
Great video!
Live and Learn. Nice Job!