@@a.barker7792" a competitor" 😂😂😂 this guy has built a business for 20 years and has a tremendous reputation throughout Southern California.... he's probably not concerned about this sorry-ass thief taking any of his business.
I would agree but in today age the person won’t learn their lesson simply because so many companies are in need of hiring especially if the person is an actual worker. I take equipment home all the time but I just ask and my boss tells me to just make sure it comes back with a full tank and no significant damage.
@@ODMonkey nothing as long as you have permission to borrow the equipment and fix it if you break it. Also as long as not stealing any work from your boss either
Make him pay rental price for those 2 days and allow him to rent it anytime he needs he’s just gotta pay to rent it. Break it they pay for the repairs.
My boss does the same for me. He used to let me borrow it for free and to be honest I took advantage of it. So I pay full rental price now. But it's still nice
But if you’re paying rental why would you be at fault to pay for a broken repair? At that point… it’s on the owner for supplying you equipment that was subpar and not running perfectly! If it’s your fault and you broke it. It’s still on the owner to fix it. Have you ever heard the expression: “ahhh it’s just a rental?”… when referring to beating on equipment that is… that’s just the rental game! The owner doesn’t have to rent his stuff out
@@Izzone24 a real rental company has special insurance for renting the equipment ... it costs a lot more than standard on the job insurance because insurance companies know the renters will beat the crap out of a rental. Vs a person who owns the equipment and needs it everyday ..who will take better care of it since he played out the big cash to buy it. Same as auto rental companies...
Same and if I broke it and it wasn’t doing something crazy or stupid like using the equipment like it’s suppose to my boss would boil it down to well it was about to go anyways but that’s because I’m the one that has to try to fix it no matter what
@@jonathantaylor6926this happen almost anywhere tho if someone is good they will go independent in any field at some point if they don’t well they are obviously not good lol
He's also lying twice.. first taking it without asking and then let's be real... he's taking it for side work on the weekend, it ain't for his own house.
Just fire him. Suspension will only build resentment. You DEFINITELY NEED IPOTS OR SOMETHING TO TRACK IT DOWN JUST IN CASE SOMEONE STEALS IT. BECAREFUL OF THE REST. IM FOR HIRE TO ASSESS THAT THE TEAM YOU HIRE WON'T FAWK YOU OVER. IM THE BEST IN THE BUSINESS. EMPLOYEES WILL CONTINUE TO DO THIS UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMEONE LIKE ME ONBOARD. HMU.
I’ve been working in the Heavy Equipment industry as a mechanic for over five years now…. Neither one of my bosses has had a problem with letting his employees borrow a machine to use around the house as long as we asked permission told him exactly where it was gonna be and treated it as our own… I’ve always went by the motto if you borrow something you return it in better shape then you found meaning a full tank of fuel completely greased and cleaned up….The fact he’s not asking your permission and just taking tells me he’s using it for work that YOUR company could be doing or something else shady of that nature.. And he feels the reward of what ever he may be using it for is bigger than the risk he’s taking of using it without your permission.
Well he already proved he would do it without permission and not only that break it and take no responsibility hoping everyone will think it happened on the jobsite which is bad for business if it’s broke and is the tool needed for the job to be done so he needs to be fired and responsible for the bill to fix the machine he broke previously otherwise he will jus do it again if you keep him air to the next guy who hires him if the consequences aren’t harsh enough.
You have just found your 1st franchisee. Bring him under your wing and work out a deal. If you dont, you will have a guy that will market all your customers that ask them if the do side work.
Hell no think about it bro he gonna take shit without asking he’s the type to go in your pockets/glove box wallet in the truck or whatever steal other tools and whatever else he can get his hands on bro takes home equipment without asking that’s stealing lol if u didn’t catch him in the act who knows what would have happened
Nobody mentioning that he LIED before he confessed. The icing on the cake is he didn't even fess up to the breakage. Trust AND honesty gone. F THAT! FIRED!
I agree. Sad to say because I also was let go from my job in April- which wasn’t my fault and haven’t been able to find a job since. Fire him! Trust is everything to a boss. As a manager two things I always tell my guys. “ don’t lie to me” “Don’t steal from me” Without either of those you have nothing.
I would say just have a good long talk with him and tell him it’s not OK. And offer him a chance to pay for the damages. If he pays for the damages and apologizes. I would call it even. just make sure he knows to ask next time. I would even offered to take it out of his check.
Partner with him on his side projects. He needs equipment you work out a rental rate/fee or profit split agreement. Especially if it’s your best guy. Win-win.
As long as you are OK letting him use the equipment, your fine. He clearly doesn't listen or follow directions and never will... so you are either ok with it or fire him, he's not going to change
Hers what happening… your guys are seeing the crazy numbers your charging…. They say “damn I’m going to start doing side jobs” RULE OF THUMB NEVER CHARE ESTIMATE WITH YOUR WOKERS”👍
Honestly the best thing you can do, because he's obviously trying to build his own business, is talk to him about how you can be 50% owner in his new business until he gives you a reasonable return on interest
When they lie in your face and you lose trust in your employees it's time to let them go. A weeks suspension can cause a payback effect. Let him work somewhere else and be their liability!
If your not going to fire him, don’t suspend him. Suspension is just a free vacation, make him do the work he doesn’t want to do until you have your point across.
No, you don’t suspend him. You don’t ever want the man to feel like he hast to lie to you. Let him use the damn equipment just whatever it costed you if it costed $100 then you make him pay for that but you don’t charge him for your time, man. He is a guy that puts a lot of money in your pocket. You need to value him more than that piece of equipment, show him that you care more about him than the equipment
I let my guys (foreman only) borrow equipment with a truck and trailer to haul the equipment. I have 3 stipulations. 1. They are responsible for any costs or damages that occur. 2. They are the only ones allowed to use the equipment while it's being borrowed. 3. They are not allowed to use the equipment for side work. If they get caught using my equipment for side work, they will be let go immediately. If I was in your situation and it was one of my best guys, I would at the very least suspend him for a week. I say a week because a week hurts their pocket. Make sure to explain to him what he did wrong and why it's a big deal. Let him know that lying and distrustful acts will not be tolerated again and will result in immediate termination.
I would give him two options. Pay for what it cost to fix the machine, the fuel consumed to and from his house, the fuel consumed while using the equipment. If he says no. Let him go. If he says yes, let him know that he has to ask moving forward, then go with him to his house to finish what he was working on. If there is no hole there, let him go on the spot because he is using your equipment to do side jobs.
I had to fire my manager because she was cursing out their team when she was stressed out. She was my top producer. But when one person’s action can make me lose my whole team, it is not worth it.
1st off dig with blade behind you. Better break out force , better stability , better vision along with being able to grade as you back up..keeping machine level. As for that little skid operation, always run with bucket as low as possible again for stability . Try it and lmk.
It’s easier to ask for forgiveness than permission. With that being said I’ve told guys not to barrow anything unless you ask but I know boss man enjoys when he gets new things for us because sometimes thing get lost or broken.
You're fired, give an inch and they take a mile
Then you've created a competitor. Work Somthing out with him that works for both of you.
@a.barker7792 nope, you got rid of someone who is sneaky and costing you money
@Jack-1212 without understanding why he or she did it, then you are just another sla^e driver. And the people that stay will think that also.
@@Jack-1212 by your response, you've never trained your own people with your own money to understand the value you spent over losing it.
@@a.barker7792" a competitor" 😂😂😂 this guy has built a business for 20 years and has a tremendous reputation throughout Southern California.... he's probably not concerned about this sorry-ass thief taking any of his business.
Fire his ass! He’s doing side jobs for sure! It’s going to come back and bite you! You have to show the other employees what can happen
I would agree but in today age the person won’t learn their lesson simply because so many companies are in need of hiring especially if the person is an actual worker. I take equipment home all the time but I just ask and my boss tells me to just make sure it comes back with a full tank and no significant damage.
If he destroyed something expensive Tigran would have to have to pay if his insurance didn't cover
What’s wrong with side jobs bro
@@ODMonkeynothing as long as you aren’t using other people equipment.
@@ODMonkey nothing as long as you have permission to borrow the equipment and fix it if you break it. Also as long as not stealing any work from your boss either
Fire him.
Trust is everything.
Money is everything.. mob. If he can make me more money than others, then I can compromise. if not ... he gotta go.
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@@breakyoselffoolhe cost him money because he can't be trusted...
😂You need a whole new crew if thats your best guy.
Make him pay rental price for those 2 days and allow him to rent it anytime he needs he’s just gotta pay to rent it. Break it they pay for the repairs.
My boss does the same for me. He used to let me borrow it for free and to be honest I took advantage of it. So I pay full rental price now. But it's still nice
Yes that could work but if the business needs that machine today and it's broke the time lost will never come back ..
So... 😢
This seems the most fair
But if you’re paying rental why would you be at fault to pay for a broken repair? At that point… it’s on the owner for supplying you equipment that was subpar and not running perfectly! If it’s your fault and you broke it. It’s still on the owner to fix it. Have you ever heard the expression: “ahhh it’s just a rental?”… when referring to beating on equipment that is… that’s just the rental game! The owner doesn’t have to rent his stuff out
@@Izzone24 a real rental company has special insurance for renting the equipment ...
it costs a lot more than standard on the job insurance because insurance companies know the renters will beat the crap out of a rental. Vs a person who owns the equipment and needs it everyday ..who will take better care of it since he played out the big cash to buy it.
Same as auto rental companies...
Let him go brother that’s breach of trust
I think just, don't let him do it again.
I hate to say it, but his actions deserve to be fired.
U broke
@@Rzr_j701 u broke lol
Fired him, just because he knows hes one of the best guys he will keep doing it.
Fired, the trust is gone fired.
I always ask my boss if I take the equipment home and if anything is wrong with it I let him know immediately.
Same and if I broke it and it wasn’t doing something crazy or stupid like using the equipment like it’s suppose to my boss would boil it down to well it was about to go anyways but that’s because I’m the one that has to try to fix it no matter what
Make him an example to those that’s thinking about it , remember this business not charity
He ain't taking it home. He's taking it to the last person who turned down your bid. "Hey if you say cash me and my cousins will do it for half! '
You get it. That is exactly what's going down. And that makes it way more dirty.
@@jonathantaylor6926this happen almost anywhere tho if someone is good they will go independent in any field at some point if they don’t well they are obviously not good lol
YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD 100%. Fire him and send a message to the rest. Taking equipment to do side jobs is like sleeping with your wife.
He's gotta go. He borrowed without permisson and didn't fix it when he broke it. He didn't own up or take responsibility for it. It'll only get worse.
Once a liar always a liar remember that.
Then that makes us all liars because we've all lied before
@@WillLiam32exactly
He's also lying twice.. first taking it without asking and then let's be real... he's taking it for side work on the weekend, it ain't for his own house.
Give him a raise
Fire him. The second somebody becomes a liability that’s when the problems start and they never stop.
Just fire him. Suspension will only build resentment. You DEFINITELY NEED IPOTS OR SOMETHING TO TRACK IT DOWN JUST IN CASE SOMEONE STEALS IT. BECAREFUL OF THE REST.
IM FOR HIRE TO ASSESS THAT THE TEAM YOU HIRE WON'T FAWK YOU OVER. IM THE BEST IN THE BUSINESS. EMPLOYEES WILL CONTINUE TO DO THIS UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMEONE LIKE ME ONBOARD. HMU.
This video could get him sued by Jose cuervo
Tell them don't take my kindness as a weakness
Fire him T, this will just get worse if you keep him on.
Fire him. What else is he doing?
How you know next guy u hired is gonna have same quality or better?
He crossed the line of trust, trust is better than a good worker
Fire him, bro
Fire him bro. Trust and honesty will take you a long way
I’ve been working in the Heavy Equipment industry as a mechanic for over five years now…. Neither one of my bosses has had a problem with letting his employees borrow a machine to use around the house as long as we asked permission told him exactly where it was gonna be and treated it as our own… I’ve always went by the motto if you borrow something you return it in better shape then you found meaning a full tank of fuel completely greased and cleaned up….The fact he’s not asking your permission and just taking tells me he’s using it for work that YOUR company could be doing or something else shady of that nature.. And he feels the reward of what ever he may be using it for is bigger than the risk he’s taking of using it without your permission.
Suspend him. Tell him to think about what he did. Give him a chance to fix him self
I agree. I've ever been given a chance like this and I felt so bad I was also trying to make up for it.
Well he already proved he would do it without permission and not only that break it and take no responsibility hoping everyone will think it happened on the jobsite which is bad for business if it’s broke and is the tool needed for the job to be done so he needs to be fired and responsible for the bill to fix the machine he broke previously otherwise he will jus do it again if you keep him air to the next guy who hires him if the consequences aren’t harsh enough.
Make a rental agreement with him and make him service it or fire him 😂
If they gotta borrow a drill for the weekend you hiring the wrong people lol
You have just found your 1st franchisee. Bring him under your wing and work out a deal.
If you dont, you will have a guy that will market all your customers that ask them if the do side work.
Hell no think about it bro he gonna take shit without asking he’s the type to go in your pockets/glove box wallet in the truck or whatever steal other tools and whatever else he can get his hands on bro takes home equipment without asking that’s stealing lol if u didn’t catch him in the act who knows what would have happened
You can’t trust him…. Fired !
Get rid of him asap! He will get you In trouble...no matter how good of an employee he is.
Take it easy on the guy suspension is good enough god is good
Fire him now
Charge him a rental fee twice ✌🏾....... And half the repair fee!
Fire to set an example for the other churros 😊
"Turning into a liability" automatically means they USED to be one of your best guys. You already know what you need to do.
Don’t let the bad apple ruin the whole forest
Rotten apple, you have to get rid of it, my guy no hard feelings 😅
Nobody mentioning that he LIED before he confessed. The icing on the cake is he didn't even fess up to the breakage. Trust AND honesty gone. F THAT! FIRED!
GIVE HIM A RAISE
You need to put GPS on your equipment, buddy.
I agree. Sad to say because I also was let go from my job in April- which wasn’t my fault and haven’t been able to find a job since. Fire him! Trust is everything to a boss. As a manager two things I always tell my guys. “ don’t lie to me”
“Don’t steal from me”
Without either of those you have nothing.
I would say just have a good long talk with him and tell him it’s not OK. And offer him a chance to pay for the damages. If he pays for the damages and apologizes. I would call it even. just make sure he knows to ask next time. I would even offered to take it out of his check.
Partner with him on his side projects. He needs equipment you work out a rental rate/fee or profit split agreement. Especially if it’s your best guy. Win-win.
Fired for sure.. it sucks but you have to
Fire his ass!! 😂😂 Jk!
Talk to the team, set the expectations, and if they borrow, they need to let you know. Proceed from there.
As long as you are OK letting him use the equipment, your fine. He clearly doesn't listen or follow directions and never will... so you are either ok with it or fire him, he's not going to change
Fired! “Best” employees are the people who don’t steal from the company.
It will never end . He's FIRED
He become your competition, taking advantage of you and your equipment, his next movement he'll take your customers.
Hers what happening… your guys are seeing the crazy numbers your charging…. They say “damn I’m going to start doing side jobs” RULE OF THUMB NEVER CHARE ESTIMATE WITH YOUR WOKERS”👍
Honestly the best thing you can do, because he's obviously trying to build his own business, is talk to him about how you can be 50% owner in his new business until he gives you a reasonable return on interest
Pay him enough to stop doing side work. He’s one of your best guys, in your own words.
Jose cuervo. Never let them drink again 😂😂😂
Charge him the daily rental rate for the days he has “borrowed” the equipment. His reaction to that demand will tell you what to do.
When they lie in your face and you lose trust in your employees it's time to let them go. A weeks suspension can cause a payback effect. Let him work somewhere else and be their liability!
He’s your best guy and he broke your equipment on his weekend. my boss let’s me use company equipment whenever I need it as long as replace the fuel.
Give him another chance, he's your best guy, be careful. Honesty is the best option. Air tag your equipment for your basic protection, theft!!
Charge him like a customer
If your not going to fire him, don’t suspend him. Suspension is just a free vacation, make him do the work he doesn’t want to do until you have your point across.
Go help him with his project bring a whole crew and all the equipment.
Come on man If you run a business this is your motto, ‘hire slow fire fast’
Fire your liabilities! First time shame on him. Second time shame on you!
Give a raise and 6 pack of Modelo asap,!!!
Best man last warning pay for the damage. Stil doing it there is the door bye
Whatever you decide, make sure the policy is clear to ALL employees, then consistently enforced. That’s the only way to make things fair for everyone.
lmao its funny when new guys are trynna borrow ya most expensive tool on their 1st day of work
let me know when I start working 😂😂😂is taking advantage
Dishonesty is not ok. Trust is so important. If he doesn't understand that by now he probably never will.
It's already too late. He already got a customer base
Give him the repair bill for the last time.
He’d better be a good operator tho.
My guys can borrow anything if they ask and it’s for their own home use.
No, you don’t suspend him. You don’t ever want the man to feel like he hast to lie to you. Let him use the damn equipment just whatever it costed you if it costed $100 then you make him pay for that but you don’t charge him for your time, man. He is a guy that puts a lot of money in your pocket. You need to value him more than that piece of equipment, show him that you care more about him than the equipment
lol he been taking advantage this just the time you caught him check his tools and home for more
That has to be an alias. Jose cuervo? 😂
He’s taking your equipment and working on side jobs
Yes trust is everything…. He crossed the line between employee and employer… this types of things are a liability and cost the owners money
I let my guys (foreman only) borrow equipment with a truck and trailer to haul the equipment. I have 3 stipulations.
1. They are responsible for any costs or damages that occur.
2. They are the only ones allowed to use the equipment while it's being borrowed.
3. They are not allowed to use the equipment for side work. If they get caught using my equipment for side work, they will be let go immediately.
If I was in your situation and it was one of my best guys, I would at the very least suspend him for a week. I say a week because a week hurts their pocket. Make sure to explain to him what he did wrong and why it's a big deal. Let him know that lying and distrustful acts will not be tolerated again and will result in immediate termination.
Your best guy can be replaced by anothe Juan in a few days
Help him start his own business, and take a share hold.
They're always doing the unthinkable
hand him an invoice for the machines cost per hour plus repair costs. has the option to pay or take payment off his pay.
Jose Cuervo you aint slick🤣
Fire 100%
He’s your BEST THIEF!
Fired!
Fired dude. 🎉
I had the same issues years ago . Never ever lend equipment to your guys next thing you know they'll start a business from what you taught them.
Deductions for repair. Deductions for rental equipment.
Talk to him on his last warning.
Buy him his own machine lol
Fired he need to learn and coworkers will learn too
I would give him two options. Pay for what it cost to fix the machine, the fuel consumed to and from his house, the fuel consumed while using the equipment. If he says no. Let him go. If he says yes, let him know that he has to ask moving forward, then go with him to his house to finish what he was working on. If there is no hole there, let him go on the spot because he is using your equipment to do side jobs.
I had to fire my manager because she was cursing out their team when she was stressed out. She was my top producer. But when one person’s action can make me lose my whole team, it is not worth it.
1st off dig with blade behind you. Better break out force , better stability , better vision along with being able to grade as you back up..keeping machine level. As for that little skid operation, always run with bucket as low as possible again for stability . Try it and lmk.
Charge him as if we’re renting the machine, insurance and hauling too.
It’s easier to ask for forgiveness than permission. With that being said I’ve told guys not to barrow anything unless you ask but I know boss man enjoys when he gets new things for us because sometimes thing get lost or broken.
Best guys wanna be you.. they use you to become you.
Sounds like he worked at a car dealership