Lord Tywin Lannister and Arya Stark
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- One of the best one-to-one dialogue themes in GoT, which occurs between Lord Tywin Lannister and Arya Stark, while she is disguised and works as his cupbearer at Harrenhal. Sadly, I couldn't find any single video encompassing all their interactions, so edited a video myself.
Events:
0:00 Arrival
1:33 The Young Wolf
3:10 A Letter
5:29 Tywin's Last War
6:53 Legacy & History
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Clips owned by HBO, and used from HBO's Game of Thrones S02 E04-07. - Zábava
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Twyin and Tyrion later on.
"I want Casterly Rock."
"No. I'm giving it to my cupbearer."
😂That would have been crazy
🤣🤣🤣
Knives Out
😂😂😂😂
Im totally going to make this alternative universe fanfic.
This is literally peak happiness of Tywin in the entire show. Not winning a battle, not Jaime, not Cersei, not his progress in achievements.
THIS IS. Just sitting back and casually talking to his cupbearer who keeps surprising him with her witty, well mannered yet playful nature, a cupbearer whos supposed to be on his death list.
Oh Tywin, Tyrion could have been the child you wanted if only you werent so hateful.
His fatherly instincts kicked in.
i think the real issue with tywin is he saw the worst in each of his children in Jaime he can see his fighting skill but not the smarts to use it
with Cersei she is just hateful and arrogant with a bit of smarts but too incompetent because of her ego and
with Tyrion he sees his ferocity and his intellect but Tyrion also has tywin's vices which i think is what makes him hate Tyrion it isn't the fact he is a dwarf or that his mother died for his birth it's the fact he has the exact same flaws and vices tywin has and tywin doesn't like the fact he has a living reflection of all his quality and defects just a bit shorter it's like tyrion says in the books i am you writ small and it's true he is basically tywin but a dwarf who hasn't' become as cold as tywin yet even tywin admits it internally but will never admit it to Tyrion because he despises faults in himself that tyrion basically broadcasts for people to see
@@lordsathariel4384 Tywin also blames Tyrion for killing his wife during birth. It's not fair, of course but definitely understandable.
Tywin sees himself in Tyrion, but because he is a dwarf, he sees him as a mockery of himself. Like the gods are saying, "look what a small man you are Tywin" . Killing his wife on birth, was the cherry on the poisoned cake.
Tywin is like that manager at your workplace who hates every single part of his job but still does it because he's better at it than anyone else could be and the place would go to complete shit without him around
"I eat a lot. I just don't grow." "Hmph." Closest to a grandfather he ever sounded.
He’s also closely watching her table manners! No stonemasons daughter would have the same education and mannerisms as Arya is showing
I think this is where Arya removed any doubt that she's not the low born girl she claimed to be. Unlike Arya, Tywin knows all too well that smallfolk never "eat a lot" as she put it. And if they somehow did, they would certainly never mention it so flippantly in his presence.
@@scottavenged7xAnd that’s why I think she’s not AS smart, she makes many small mistakes.
@@AdamFeueraugewell, she’s still a kid after all lol she’s like 10 here. She’s smart for her age
I think that's also the moment he confirmed that the food wasn't poisoned as well.
Tywin to Arya:
“You’re too smart for your own good”
Tywin to Cersei:
“You’re not as smart as you think you are”
“You remind me of my daughter.”
she would of made and old man proud as his daughter.
Lol @@user-xq1jx2nd7m
@@user-xq1jx2nd7mbut two things could be true at the same time. You could be smart and also not as smart as you think...the trick is to know what you know and understand what you dont.
@@thediaz07 and that is the lesson. His daughter never learned.
"You're a sharp little thing aren't you..."
Man respected a cup bearer more than all his banners
Everyone needs a friend, ngrtt. Even tywin. If you can't make a friend with a person, their are always trees.😉
@@Christrulesall2 i piss on trees like a dog
That’s because he was always surrounded by fools. This cupbearer was a refreshing change.
Arya was smarter than his banners, literally she could read better that the generals and that was before she turned into the most deathly assassin on the 7 realms
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
I love when Tywin says "No wine, just water. We're going to be here a long time", and the looks of defeat on the faces of all the other lords. 😂
Think of this whenever that work zoom meeting goes on longer than scheduled :D
@Vik-711 with zoom you can put it in your coffee mug lol
@@rickDArula Ikr xD I'm doing a 24months online course to become a programmer and I absolutely love that I can do whatever the hell I want. Wear no pants, get high, chill in bed. It's almost too comfortable because I've always been a lazy fck and suddenly there's no pressure to keep me going. But I'm still glad that I don't have to commute everyday and waste my time and energy doing so.
@@devanov3103still give all your effort though. Don’t be complacent because it’s convenient. Reach your goals my guy!
"What killed him?" "Loyalty." Quite possibly my favorite line of the whole show
Agreed. I also love the Hound scene when the gaurd asks if he is going to die over a chicken and the Hound takes a long pause and says, someone is. Awesome.
Catlyn
"I've know men like you my whole life"
Jamie's response almost with sadness in his voice, " There are no other men like me."
The dude knows his assignment
My favorite line is “Habit”
@@jmmichael188 You've lived your whole life for the king and now you're gonna die for some chicken ?
agreed. I loved how he took a measuring look at her and summed it up, "You're a sharp little thing, aren't you?"
I would have gladly watched an entire season of just these two
facts
plus arya and the hound! maisie had incredible chemistry with some of the actors
And yet we got season 8 instead..!
@@wavemaster181 Same people who wrote season 8, wrote this
@@staticcharm3808 back when they had some book material and weren't working on star wars
“Most girls are stupid”
“lol” said Tywin and he never laughed another day in his life.
Yeah it was said that only his wife could make him laugh. Arya did that though. If Arya would have grown up a Lannister he would have most likely made him his heir. They were a lot alike and had a certain kinship.
I like how his laugh is more of a grunt
Uhm she actually said idiots. Mandela effect much? 🤓
Love Tywin's guffaw at Arya's sass. A fatherly moment, to me.
@@lilott1 doubt it, i honestly belive Tywin was like that with Jaime and Cersei when they where young and he was present, but of course kids always grow up and need to know they have responsabilities when that happened Tywin stopped treating them as kids and started treating them as adults. So in my honest belive if Arya had been a Lannister yes they would have gotten along but once she grew up she would have to do as he said and follow his command. Plus when a kid is not yours sometime people tend to enjoy them more.
Tywin is not stupid. He knows Arya is highborn but he's too intrigued with her that he just lets her be in her disguise. His only mistake was not knowing she was actually Arya Stark.
I agree that he for sure thought she was. Which is surprising because he also believes she’s a northerner. Surprised he didn’t have her questioned.
@Nanobot1989 I think he only didn't let that cross his mind because he assumed Cersei still held Arya at Kings Landing, and Cersei never mentioned she escaped. Had he known that, he wouldve likely instantly knew it was her and had her captured and returned.
Lucky for Arya, Cersei's too proud to admit a mistake, and Tywin didn't meet her before, or she'd grown so much she wasn't recognizable
@@kitsunefire1yeah I’ve seen a lot of people complain that Tywin should have known it was Arya. But last he heard, she was in kings landing missing. He also likely had never met arya, so besides uncovering that she is a highborn northerner, there’s no reason for him to believe it was arya. As well as u mentioned that Cersei never told him, because she didn’t want to admit a mistake
Tywin was one of the sharpest minds in that world. I've always held the suspicion that he was well aware of who she was, or at least strongly suspected. It was definitely within his character.
@@diogenesesenna9323 personally that doesnt make sense to me because if he knows arya is who she is, then hes an idiot for letting her go and not taking her with him everywhere to keep an eye on her. because arya would be a very valuable hostage and probably stop robb from attacking. but i dunno, he could, but he also couldnt
Having Tywin call you a sharp little thing is probably the biggest compliment given on this show.
I truly believe Charles Dance is one of the greatest actors of his generation. I cannot peel my eyes away from him. He dominates every scene he's in.
I bet he still fks hard
So do you wana screw him?
Glad he wasn't in the show in the later seasons. Didn't end up debasing himself the way the rest of that excellent cast was forced to.
@@L1Run I really like your take on this. I'd not given it any thought until you wrote that. Thanks!
@@L1Run he died in the most undignified spot imagineable but still died with his character intact wich is more dignefying then those who had there characters frizzle up into nothing
You can tell how much Tywin appreciates talking to smart people, unfortunately he is legit surrounded by idiocy 90% of the time. The son he's embarrassed by and a 12 year old girl offer him the most intelligent conversations he has the entire series.
Also the deleted scene with maester Pycelle.
Don't forget Lady Olenna.
The saddest thing is Tyrion is the one who came closest to his intellect out of all his kids. Sadly he hated him for something he never actually did.
Now all I can hear is him talking like Scar😂
tyrion was sharp but tywin hated him
I feel as if Tywin truly wished he could've raised his "cup bearer" in some capacity. He saw every quality Arya had. Quick witted, decisive, calculating. All the attributes he wished for in Cersei.
If only he had a child who was quick witted, decisive or calculating...
Alas his 2 children did not inherit these traits.
@@SuperHongTay I take your point. But Tyrion was tainted in his father's eyes. Saw him as a little monster.
Clearly the perfect child Tywin wished to have came out as 3 living beings. For Tywin it's a curse.
@@SuperHongTay Tyrion could never be that Lannister in his father's eyes for being the reason his wife died. Tyrion's fault regardless of the circumstance that will always be the stain he wears, his outer appearance was just the constant reminder and his undeniable forever affliction. But for him I suppose Tyrion never really saw it that way because of the circumstance, but Tywin's mind would never change. Add Tyrion's hedonistic habits didn't really help lol. Just so happens he was really damn smart and witty, those books aye. Only through the GOT time line did he start to recognize his youngest's abilities in said capacity. But Tywin would never accept him for his true status as his best son.
Tyrion had all those qualities, but Tywin hated him for reasons he had no control over.
This was the writing the show deserved... For those who don't know, Arya and Tywin never met in the books. The entire Harrenhal sequence is completely different in the books. But this version is just pure gold. Excellent writing and dialogue that told us more about both characters... It showed just how smart Tywin Lannister was... And how clever Arya was.
I've been coming back to these early season scenes. The last few seasons really soured me on the show, as it did many people, but there's a lot of gold in the early seasons. Despite how it ended, it is still a great show.
it's a fantastic scene like many that they added early on because it basically condenses most of the exposition and character development that couldn't really be directly adapted from the books since they had to cut scenes and trim dialogues. The problem with the later seasons is precisely that they stopped writing scenes like these which make it so exposition is either delivered in the most stilted way possible or entirely skipped and character development is just nowhere to be found. That leaves the audience feeling like we have no idea what characters' motivations and feelings are anymore and the larger plot is just a foggy mess beyond the immediate events being shown.
Agreed.
This was much better than her interactions with Roose Bolton.
I think this is the best 'off book' contribution to GOT. It really made me wish the scenes had happened in the book.
D&D were really great writers when it came to adapting a story someone else had written. the ending made them a laughingstock but people forget that the first 4 seasons are some of the best adaptations of any source material put to screen.
the problem is that they can't plot out a story to save their lives. these intimate moments are where they shine, so long as the big picture is imagined and mapped out by someone else. once they ran out of books and had to start moving the pieces around for themselves, they fell on their faces.
of course, this is all GRRM's fault for refusing to finish his goddamn books
The chemistry between Charles Dance and Maisie Williams was *on point* in every scene they had together.
Amazing actors for an amazing series.
this is some of the best scenes original to the show in the whole series. Actually humanizes Tywin quite a bit. He even respects her a bit. She is clever and just trying to get home (half true) and doesn't feel any hostility to her trying to get home. Heck he might even expect she was a member of the Stark household staff at KL but doesn't care.
@@davidlewis5312KL?
@@M_marks_th3_spot Kings Landing
Yes... chemistry doesn't always mean romance. This is more captivating than any romantic scene in this entire show. Ned and Catlyn were a great couple though, ngl
@@zvezdoblyat I think Jon and Ygritte were amazing too
Tywin literally helped his son overcome dyslexia.
And that’s y he’s the goat
One son, wouldn't do the same for the other.
I guess he wasn’t a fan of liberal parenting...
Amen!
He also paid a bunch of soldiers to rape his other son's girlfriend
Tywin was a man who desperately sought his match in intelligence. Not seeing it in his peers, he sought to raise his children to his level. Cersei and Jaime lacked his spark, and he refused to acknowledge it’s existence in Tyrion. He then tried to educate his grandchildren, only ever glimpsing it in Tommen. He saw the spark of intelligence in his cup-bearer and wanted to nurture it as best he could. A non-familial asset is still an asset to the Lannisters.
Had he married Olenna, Westeros would not have had a chance.
Cersei is intelligent no doubt, but her cruel nature often overpowers her ability to think
@@-THE_META Can you imagine the monster they'd raise together? Cunning, intelligent, disciplined.
@@anirudhsilverking5761 so true. He cruel nature caused her downfall
That was beautiful! (Slow clap) 👏👏
It's such a briilant stroke of writing to have the "big villain" have an affinity for the hero's child.
Danarys is the big villain though
no
@@josephmelton4721
one of the all time greatest things in this show, considering this wasn't even in the books
@@blubberbernd2347 This is honestly what made me hopeful for the rest of the show. If D&D kept up scenes like this throughout the show, instead of basically dumping it out and ditching GRRM, it could have been one of the greatest. Seasons 1-4 will still be remembered though, but its sad.
@@user-pt8xx8bp8uIt's honestly super ironic that the writers created this original dialogue between Arya and Tywin, intricately woven between the scenes of the plot-moving writing to provide more depth to these characters with brilliant writing. It's ironic because DnD could write good nuanced dialogue between two characters that captivated the audience, but could not write a grand closure to the series that seemed consistent with the pacing of the earlier seasons. Also logistically a lot of it didn't make sense either, and a lot was left unanswered.
I guess DnD should be criticized more for their laziness and lack of ambition towards closing the series out than they should for their writing ability. Given the time, I think they could write well, but they just gave up
Tywin gets along better with everyone else’s kids instead of his own. It’s poetic, sad, and hilarious all at once.
The hatre for tyrion is unjust but he did everything he could for jaime and cersei.
That scene with the food hits different after you realize that Tywin was using Arya as an improvised food taster because he was mindful of poison after Jaqen killed Lorch.
Mind blown...thank you for this
Damn never caught that
Woah, and here I thought he was strangely nice towards her.
Thanks for pointing that out 👍🏼
If he respected her as a person why would he kill her? why not get one of the other slaves?
Damnnnnn I never picked up on that!!! Brilliant. Catch!
“Anyone can be killed..” with a stone-cold stare at Tywin.. Arya is such a badass!
That is one part, looking back on it, that shows how cocky tywin can be in his own way. He just heard her admiration for Robb, and the northern host, and then she makes that comment, and he still keeps her around as his cup bearer, knowing full well what she meant by that comment lol
can't say I ever met an 8 year old badass........
LOVED that part!
@@BrendanDormanMMA Have you met many 8 year olds?
@@Solidsnaik careful now, Rob. I enjoy you, but be careful.
“This one’s a girl… you idiot.”
I don’t know why, but his little pause before calling the soldier an idiot adds so much character to Tywin. It shows that he cares about unraveling the truth of things than simply belittling or insulting others, or at least, from his perspective, his air of superiority comes second to his observations.
I always enjoyed that moment because I assume he thought "He's too stupid to realise he's stupid, better drive it home"
This isn't even a reach, you're stretching out to damn Neptune
@@j.p.westwater2334 🤷
Those cold eye contact between Arya and Tywin in their first conversation was just menacing. Such a shame we only got 10 minutes of this masterpiece.
The old lion and the she-wolf stare each other down.
@@Crichjo32 no. If that were true, he would have had her killed. it was much more complicated.
@@jv-lk7bc well she was staring at him with a death stare, because she knows who she is and who he is. However he doesn't know who she really is, and may have interpreted it differently. You get the sense he's a bit chilled by her words and stare, but his admiration for her grew.
@@Crichjo32 I also interpret it as Tywin was a bit insulted(But fascinated by it if that makes sense). A commoner refusing to let go of eye contact with a lord is unwise.
"And this one is a girl, YOU IDIOT."
I've rewatched those two seconds like a hundred times. Perfect sound and facial expression hahahahaha
1:15 Instant replay
That mini-pause before he says ".... YOU IDIOT!" was hilarious. Perfect delivery.
It's like he was a little impressed that Arya had disguised herself, then remembering he had to insult the guard.
Same here 😂😂😂
@@Kncperseus he did that with the follow up of "Smart! More than I can say for this lot..." especially with his expressions 🤣
Charles Dance... actually very similar characterisation as his Benedict in Last Action Hero where he calls his mafia boss "you spaghetti eating twerp" which I dont wonder was improvised by him as I cant imagine an american screenwriter using the word twerp.
Watching this back years after and I cannot remember another time when Tywin talked so respectfully to another character. It's so obvious that he, on some level, admires this girl. I absolutely love it when actors like Charles Dance get to chew on scenes so masterfully created like these
I kind of feel the opposite. He's Tywin God Damn Lannister. He can't talk respectfully and openly with anyone important, he always has to be playing the game. The feeling I get from these scenes is that he enjoys having small human moments with someone, and that someone has to be a lowly cup-bearer because there's no-one else.
@@pavarottiaardvark3431 He'll look weak in front of his bannerman if he spoke like a human instead of an invincible machine to them after all his power is based on fear
I wouldn't say he respects her, but he enjoys her. A little tit-for-tat. He's playing a game, letting her think he is fooled by her "I'm just a commoner from the North" game. And instead of freaking out and crying when she gets busted for her act, she continues playing. I suppose because the moment he thinks he's "won" (pointing out her obvious lie about being a commoner) she knows that she is winning -- even as recognizing she's high born, he doesn't realize she's the Stark girl he's searching for! The Stark girl he could use to take the North.
He has nothing to gain from her and has no expectations for how she should act and I think that’s why he’s the most genuine with her. It’s actually out of character for Tywin to leave her the way he does given how sharp she is, but it would make a small book deviation huge for him to do that. I also think he understood on some level that she wanted to remain unnoticed and respected that, even if he didn’t know why. Best scenes in season two in my opinion
@@koolaidman6251 was reading your comment and just thought
What if Tywin knew who she was
Probably not canon but would be cool like his sort of atonement or smth
The conversations Tywin has with Arya are more respectful, tender, and equal footed than any he ever has with anyone else. Including his own children.
"Why is he such an awesome grandfather when he was such an awful father?"
-bart simpson
He really loved Jamie, but he was rigid with him because he wanted him to be his heir. With Arya he had no expectations, so he could be just a little more "soft".
I love how she has been saying my lord the whole time and he reveals it gave her away from the very start. Tywins curiosity was simply too great for him to call her out without seeing where it goes.
"I eat a lot, I just don't grow." That wasn't Arya Stark, that was Maissie XD
Lol that was the most light hearted thing Arya has ever said
Honestly it was probably the line that gave away her noble status to Tywin. Other than general speech stuff, being a stone mason's daughter of qutie a young age who's consistently eaten enough to make a statement like that? You can kinda tell that he picks up on it as more than amusement
@@Bloodjen Also when he said his father died of loyalty, it was a dead giveaway. What kind of stonemason died of loyalty and taught his little daughter how to read and history. That's too far-fetched in this setting
That's tyrion too 🤣🤣🤣
@@timy9197it’s a line that really made me realize “oh yeah Arya is still a little girl” and there’s these moments in the show that bring that up because of the brave and smart face she puts on
Tywin caught alot of cues Arya showed that made him suspect she was high-born way before. Choosing the book he said before he pointed it out, her education, and her poise taking witty jabs, and looking him straight in the eyes no fucks given and denying his offer to eat. The final nail was the "I eat alot, I just don't grow" meaning that she was never in need or unable to afford food.
I'm convinced that he knew she was high born just that he has lots of bigger things to attend to, to give it much thought
Pretty surr he knew, but didnt know which house, he wasnt thinking it would be a stark more likely a minor house of the north still a noble one
I always thought he knew but assumed that she was from a very small noble house. Or maybe a high ranking servant’s daughter.
Tywin probably asked her that on purpose to see what she would say.
"I eat a lot, I just don't grow" was just part of the cover. It was not proper etiquette to ever let on to a Lord, or anyone else really, how poor you were. It can be interpreted as ingratitude, or just be looked upon snobbishly in a classist way. It was common (and still is) for peasants to act richer and better fed than they are. Not really fed nowadays as most people are well-fed. But now people do it with flashy cars they can't afford. I heard of a guy who lived in a village in Africa, working for the Peace Corps, who said he knew a family that bought expensive vegetables nobody in the family actually liked just so they could avoid the perception of being poor.
5:19
"I'm cold."
"I'll fetch more wood for the fire, my lord..."
"No, I'm describing my character."
What I loved about this is how similar they both were in the relationship. Arya wanted to kill him, yet also found the only person since her father's death to have moments with that didn't have to be guarded. You'd see her relax, like when she was talking about the Targaryns. She was so childlike in that moment with her excitement telling him about them. And Tywin was much the same in relaxing. He knew she was not who she said she was, yet he had some very open unguarded conversations with her, like she was the effective daughter he wished he had. Almost like they both found safety in each other's company that they couldn't find anywhere else. They could just be human and forget why they were both there for a while. Arya knew Tywin would never hurt her. And Tywin knew that whatever she was up to, he was enough steps ahead of her to not have to worry. One of the best dynamics in the whole show.
best dynamics absolutely, but 'relaxed' isn't quite the right word. Neither of them was capable of ever being completely relaxed. 'comfortable' would be closer. the fact that they shared that and so many other characteristics made for a precious sliver of comeraderie which neither had with anyone else.
This! What always surprised me about their interactions with each other was the fact that Tywin spoke to her of unguarded thoughts that he could not or would not share with anyone else. He recognized her breeding,intelligence and the lengths she would go to stay alive and was intrigued enough to open up to her and give her some of his hard fought wisdom. Life made Tywin hard, but he could relax enough with Arya to be a grandfatherly influence. As long as he kept an eye on her she was safe. Would Arya have killed him if the opportunity arose? I wonder.
I'd argue that these scenes were some of the most tense in the series given the consequences of either Arya letting slip her true identity. It was hard to tell how close he was to figuring it out and every time she overstepped the tension rose further. Not to mention the undercurrent of her looking for an opportunity to kill him
Thats was im saying, they had amazing potential to shift the whole show to them being frienemies. That would be fun to watch
Maise's ability to act so strongly against a seasoned actor like Charles Dance is breathtaking.
For real. She is a baby at this point and yet is incredibly talented.
I don’t think I’ve seen better chemistry between two actors. I love that one is old and one is young. Incredible talent on display.
@@exposett246 this alone tells me youve never been drunk
Omg how breathtaking is it? It’s almost like it’s her job and the reason she got hired to play such a major role. Crazy
@@Ozzie-OH-OH isn't it obvious? Charles Dance is obviously a very experienced actor, while this is Maisie's first major role ever. The fact she could keep up with someone like Charles Dance like this is a sign of insane talent.
Arya never backs down when challenged! It’s admirable and respectable. He constantly has her under pressure and she fires back consistently and never falters. Such a great chemistry between these two.
Because they have similiar features.
Arya vs Tywin and the Hound when all she has are her wits were her best scenes. Emo faceless assassin Arya was just annoying.
I always thought they nailed strong female roles in the show. It can be hard to get right without it seeming patronizing.
"Hah! You remind me of my daughter" I wonder if this was the first time we see Tywin joyful. Does anyone know?
@@derfderf0 because arya is at her best when she interacts with other characters around her, in the books she's constantly making friends with braavosi people while training with faceless men, the show never understood her character - idk why she's constantly wearing that smug self satisfied smirk
"most girls are idiots" always struck me as an interestingly spiteful line from Arya, but a well-placed one as well. She and Tywin are chatting about family, history and strategy, but they are really reflecting on the power of those who change, or simply ignore rules that others blindly follow. just amazing writing and acting.
During that time most girls were idiots. But I guess that’s because of lack of education
10:00 I like how even though Tywin sees through her double bluff, he's unable to keep his composure at how impressed he is with her. His face absolutely twitches with excitement. You can tell he admires intellect over all and is grateful to know her. In a way, Arya likely encourages his mentality as she's an example of the kind of standard he puts on his own children and peers... and so young!
The sly “yes” at the end to being told she’s “too smart for her own good” makes me smile every time. Some of the best scenes from back when the show was at its best
Yup. This was the show at its peak. Good thing Charles Dance's character died before he could live long enough to watch everything become a clown college.
That little smirk sells it. Yes, she's been told. No, she doesn't worry about it.
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The "Yes" was for the question "has anyone ever told you that?"
It's just masterful writing. I love it. Such depth to characters that you can't just write any of them off. Even as despicable as Joffery was, when Margery came into the picture he suddenly became the manipulated one.
God I would kill for this to have been properly completed by RR Martin.
In an alternate world, they would love each other. She's the absolutely brilliant daughter he wanted, and he's the powerful mentor that teaches her more than he ever could teach Cersei or Tyrion.
he could teach tyrion everything, he just rejected him. You people are idolizing his character because you're simply taken away by his charisma. He bewitched your mind with his acting hahaha.
Cersei and Tyrion are not stupid and inherrited and learned a lot from him. But they didn't agreed with him on everything. They weren't willing to dismiss their personal needs only for a legacy. They disappointed him at 40+ adult not as children. He compares Arya to Cersei with a positive intention. He very likely wasn't disappointed with them as children. He is also very likely someone you can never ever statistify and he will always criticse you for pushing more forward.
My take is that Tywin had expectations of of his own children, but Arya is a pleasant surprise. That's why he's able to have such great interactions with her. Tyrion was deformed (in his mind) and Jaime wasn't smart enough and Cersei's cruelty takes precedence over her intelligence.
like Iroh and Toph?
@@saudude2174 well we appreciate a good and well written villain with just as many redeeming qualities as ones that make us hate him. But I agree, his disdain for Tyrion was his greatest weakness, and had he only embraced him; they would have washed everything and won. He knew Tyrion didn't kill Joffery, but saw it as his opportunity to get rid of him. Which honestly boils down to pride. Jamie was the ideal son, but was a bit of an idiot, he couldn't stand the idea of Tyrion being the one to carry the Lannister name.
THIS! Right here is what makes a show great. Not stupid cgi dragons and cropped up dialogue. This scene has everything. Great dialogue, setting up characters, tension and most of all it shows of the amazing talents these actors possess to be put up screen.
Yeh but dragons
Wym cgi dragons, u want real dragons? LMAO
Agreed
such a great show, too bad it got cancelled after season 6. hopefully we can get the ending when George finishes the book.
fr
like... in 25 years? xD
you mean after S4
@@kool4209 nahhh s5-s6 were still good
lmfao explain. @@BaggedBread
"You're a sharp little thing."
This show was so friggin good when it still had the books to use.
This isn't from the books though. They made this bit up themselves.
@Damien Thorne feeling stupid now hmm? :D
@@pavarottiaardvark3431 even so, the books guided them. The writers of this show excelled when - and only when - they had material to work from. Once it was gone, they completely lost their way.
@@MrSameion Well they're not wrong. Somehow the quality just bleeded into stuff, that diverged from the source material.
Suppose them having to follow the broader plot of the books meant that changes they'd make had to organically bounce off from that and rest is just down to actors across the line being solid as fvck.
@@MrSameion ? This fits with exactly what he said lmao. He didn't say it was copying the books. If they were copying the books, it wouldn't be worth praise.
The show did a fantastic job at individual scenes and pieces of dialogue. It did a terrible job at overarching plot. When it had an overarching plot to follow from the books, it did an incredible job fitting original scenes like this into it.
"You're too smart for your own good. Has anyone ever told you that?"
"Yes."
Always gets a smile out of me
And also Tywin's calm, friendly tone when he said ''Now, go on'' sounded just like a father would say to his child.
Tywin always reminded me of Count Dooku in Star Wars. He will do evil things, but he respects his enemies and will give them credit where it’s due.
The only real evil in this story are the Boltons and *maybe* the Night King. The rest are antiheroes. Not even many of the horselords.
@@PRubin-rh4sr and the Mountain
The most underrated detail about this entire sequence of interactions is how it indicates what kind of attitude Tywin actually has towards authority and power: the fact he shows more respect to Arya than his council despite her status as his cup bearer not only suggests how much more he values competence over positions of authority, but also says a lot about how much competence the weight of his own authoritative reputation is built on by contrast.
Conversely, these scenes also highlight a new level of character development for Arya and her journey up to this point: the ability to think on her feet and match wits with the patriarch of House Lannister of all people. When compared to the fool-hardy and violent tomboy she was introduced as at the beginning of the series, the growth she demonstrates here is made all the more fascinating by the fact that Tywin respects it for his own in-character reasons.
I think I speak for everyone here when I say it's this top quality level of character writing that keeps us coming back to this clip.
It also foreshadows when he speaks with Tommen about what makes a good king. reference: /watch?v=doY0IjisBlk
Kind of reminds of how it’s stated somewhere that Cersei believes Tywin doesn’t respect/trust her with power because she’s a woman, when in fact it’s because he recognises that she simply isn’t intelligent/ competent enough to wield it
It’s been a while but wasn’t Bronn knighted by Tywins orders? You could argue it was a power play to give Bronn less reasons to stand up for Tyrion but Bronn was very competent at defending Kings Landing in the Battle of Blackwater. Showing how Tywin values competent people.
These Arya/Tywin scenes are another very nice change from the books. I'm also positive that if Tywin knew it was Arya Stark, he would've imprisoned her immediately. He's pretty sure she's part of a northern noble family though. But in the grand scheme of things, considering she's not in the north, he probably figures her house and been defeated and as a young girl and most likely not an heir, would most likely not be a valuable hostage (unless he knew she was a Stark).
I think he believes she's the daughter of Lord Dustin, that reaction he had to her saying her family served House Dustin and was able to list off everything he had asked for.
There’s also the fact that Tywin plays the long game. He knows she noble northern born but not sure which family. No matter what family she’s from if her family is killed and she’s alive and remembers that he was “kind” she would be the one in control of the noble house and would be able to help spread the word that the Lannisters are kind and merciful once Robb Stark is killed. He wasn’t banking on her being Arya. Arya was dead. He needed more of an in to the north than just Sansa, he needed nobles coming home singing his family’s praises so they would willingly switch to his side
It’s so crazy that such a valuable hostage was right under his nose for weeks and he had no idea. Was Jaime captured at this time? If so, this was his golden bargaining chip and she’s just filling cups and clearing plates. Obviously this is fiction but makes you realize in the world before social media (any media, actually) , it would be so much easier to hide/get away with things. Everyone may know your name but few have ever seen your face
@@lindsay9838 Jaime was a captive at this time
I like to think he suspected it, or at least was one of the possibilities crossing his mind. The look on his face when Arya talked about her father, as if he could acknowledge the pros of Ned as a family man in the way one can respect a formidable enemy. Also, why would one of Robb’s banner-men bring his daughter down south to war? The number of northern noble girls down south must have been pretty limited at that time. I guess if he considered the possibility, he preferred to have her close so he could better keep an eye on her himself.
Although I’m assuming Tywin was aware of Arya being a fugitive, which I don’t remember if it was the case.
Charles Dance was a near perfect casting for Tywin Lannister, IMO. He may not look how the character is described in the books but he nails the very essence of Tywin. He commands every scene he is in. Hear Me Roar!
Him and the actress that played Cersei were an absolute treat for me acting wise. Such perfection and elegance in their tone, and facial expressions and mannerisms as they delivered lines was everything!
He's in the new Netflix series The Sandman. I'd recommend it. He's not in it very long but perfect casting !
You mean Tywin Lannister was a near perfect casting for Charles Dance?! (xD)
All the Lannisters were perfectly casted
@Jermy Wermy but can you imagine someone else being so fucking good at it
Just noticed, Tywin probably forced Arya to eat to see how she's accustomed with utensils and to confirm she's high born.
I actually thought of that. Arya ate like a commoner (coz she was starving) but the part where tywin handed her the utensils. She took the knife with finess.
I figured he suspected his food was poisoned, or suspected she knew it might be and wanted to gauge her reaction. But your theory ties together better I think.
Maisie Williams really did go toe-to-toe with Charles Dance in every scene they were together, which is impressive considering the sheer experience Charles Dance has.
It was such an odd pairing. Despite her hatred of him, I wonder if Arya thought of Tywin as a mentor of sorts? He did save her from certain death, respected her as much as a high level aristocrat can respect someone he views as a low born commoner, taught her lessons on power, and never took advantage of her. Just wish there had been a scene after Tywin had gone to Kings Landing where he learned Arya's true identity.
I agree. I would have loved for him to have lived and then meet the new improved Arya and find out she was a Stark.
I think that he believed that she was the daughter of Lord Dustin, a minor lord whose daughter's capture wouldn't really make much of a difference to the war. He clearly doubted that her father was a stonemason and her mother a servant to Lady Dustin. He didn't believe she was low born because of how well she spoke, my lord instead of m'lord, nor did he seem to believe her explanation of her mother teaching her to speak "proper...properly."
He knew she was of Noble heritage.
It was odd but made for such great scenes. And Maisie did such an amazing job keeping up with Charles, for how young she was and new at acting. I love that even though these two seem to actually enjoy conversing because they’re both intelligent and not gross (she’s been with only men for a while, most of them either dirty, cruel, or vulgar so his company was probably a weird relief), they would’ve turned on each other in a nanosecond if the opportunity presented itself. Like the scene with the knife, even during a casual chat, she never lost sight that he was at war with her family and looked for any opening to help them. And she would’ve been the perfect hostage to get Jaime back. He would have her tortured without a second thought until his son was home, had he realized who was sitting across from him.
I think I prefer how he never knew who she really were
"I eat a lot, I just don't grow."
The most adorable thing Arya has ever said 😂
The mouthful of food makes it 😂❤
So cute
She gave herself away as not a commoner though
You can tell she wants to be bigger because she's such a tomboy. She sounds as though she ruminates on it often... perhaps even over eating in an attempt to grow! Haha.
@@zerjiozerjio but she lived when there was food. Not during the time mothers smothered their babies because it was ‘winter’….
As much as Tywin was a man often seen as cruel and conniving person, he was a man who respected intellect, until he couldn't with his own son, which is what got him killed in the end. A truly master class case of writing.
I think Tywin liked Arya more than his own children.
Arya : Have you ever lost before ?
Tywin: Is my name Tylose ?
Copy pasted
Tywin was a brilliant Machiavellian. He knew when he had to do cruel things, Red Wedding and having the Mountain as his enforcer. But when he saw that he could use able body skilled men for work, he didn’t torture them unnecessarily.
He was one of the few characters that I’ve seen pull off the “lawful evil” character alignment so well.
Ruthless and cruel are two very different things, Tywin is ruthless without being cruel
It's funny how the man that nearly caused her entire family to die is the one that saved her. He even enjoyed her company. It's almost a grandfatherly relationship especially when Tywin half-jokingly states "Perhaps you should devise our next battle plan while you're about it."
- anyone can be killed
Then arya stares at him, goddddddd this show was awesome
I love the "I eat alot...I just don't grow" feels like a true grandfather granddaughter moment between Arya and Tywin. Almost sweet without the greater context of him being responsible for the systematic slaughter of most of her entire family.
To be fair, it wasn't personal. And it wasn't like Arya did not do the same later on. She was his finest pupil. Even enemies can respect one another, admire one another, and even love one another.
His interactions with Arya are literally the only times I can think of when he showed any kindness or praised anyone without condition. Even the moments when she crosses him he treats almost as fatherly teaching moments.
"Have you met many stonemasons?" LOL love that whole scene.
“Forgive me, my lord. I shouldn’t ask questions.”
“No. But you’ve already begun.”
Clearly he loved being with her. Didn’t mind her questions at all.
He was always suspicious
These were the only moments Tywin appeared almost kind and soft in front of someone, it's touching how he seems seeing in Arya a sharper minded child than his children, maybe the kind he would've wanted as a father.
He can relax a bit with her, as he doesn't play the game with her. Every character he meets has an agenda or he needs to project power. With a little girl he doesn't need to be careful as much, she's just an anonimous person with no real importance.
This and his talk with Tommen. Though the fact it was in front of Joffrey's corpse was weird.
@@alexk6343 Yes. He very much needed someone like this in his life, someone he could relax his guard with and even talk casually about his family. The conversations of these two are my favorite scenes in the whole saga. Small, quiet, and clever.
He was very likely not like this with his children when younger. Strict yes, but he said you remind me of my daughter in a praising way. They disappointed him as adults not children. And many wouldn't be willing to sacrife their personal happiniess only for a legacy. I doubt Arya would have.
@@kursor52 He also put his hand on Tommens eyes when Joffrey had been dying. He had to take Tommen away before Cersei gives him wrong ideas and to put her in place. Quite cod hearted but that is how he is. Duty over feelings for the sake of the Lannister Legacy. However in the end he overdid it and it led to opposite. But this a quite common fate for many GoT characters.
8:54 Arya is the only character who made Tywin laugh. Even Tyrion couldn’t do that.
5:17 I love how "I'm cold" subtly refers to Tywin's character in comparison to his father.
Just to point out how ruthless Tywin was,he fed Arya in front of him to see if the food was poisoned
LMFAO
Exactly.
If its poisoned, hes saved. If its not, he just fed a little girl. Win-win for TyWIN.
_Man_ their scenes were some of the most memorable in the entire series. Tywin showing the most amount of vulnerability and kindness we had ever seen from him up until that point, to the point where we _almost_ forget that he's the head of the house responsible for killing his young new companion's father. Two of the best early-season characters bouncing off each other with enough tension to stick the pointy end with. All driven by phenomenally-written dialogue.
...dang, this show was so good once upon a time...
For real. Seems like the writers just fell off a cliff
Ned Stark killed an innocent peasant despite telling the truth in the very beginning. He also supported his friend Robert Baratheon while the Targaryen children should have been the rightful successors of the throne. GoT is fantasy but it is a universe like in realistic medival times and realstic portray of humans and not plain black and white we are way too used to. There are very few characters in GoT which are 100% villians like Joffrey, Roose and Ramsey Bolton and the nightking. You could pprtray the story of Tywin in his favor. His family story is kinda tragic.
@@kidaria1333 The Targaryens lost their rights to the throne when Daenerys' father started burning people for fun.
He wasn't called the Mad King for nothing.
When Robert claimed the Crown, he took it by right of conquest
After that the Targaryens were pretenders at best, there is no rightful heir to the throne
@@ASillyHistoryBuff They didn't lost anything. Moral has nothing to do with how aristocratic inheritance law and geopolitics works. And a child cannot be taken responsible for the behavior of the father. They should have arrested the mad king and get the oldest child in power. It was very stupid behavior of both Reghar Targaryen and Robert Baratheon to cause a war because Lyanna (but of course Rhegar the most). Yet if Robert Stark truely would be a 100% men of right and honour he wouldn't have supported Robert in getting after the life of Targaryen children.
@@kidaria1333 It isn't to do with morality
By the laws of feudal contract, there are certain expectations from a king or queen, including justice, fair government and protection for his/her subjects
Aerys violated it in every way: he arbitrarily ignored the law for example during Brandon starks 'trial by combat' by burning Lord Rickard Stark.
Aerys mismanaged the realm after he dismissed Tywin, routinely violating the rights and customs of his subjects, for example trying to spite Lord Tywin by naming his heir apparent to the kingsguard- alienating and antagonising one of the most powerful vassals in the realm.
Finally, Aerys torture and murder of subjects by burning them to death with wildfire made him a tyrant.
By his own actions he effectively dug his own grave.
And forfeited his right to the crown, along with the rights of his children.
The Targaryen children have a claim to the throne but its one of many
You forget, Robert Baratheon has Targaryen blood through his grandmother, hence how he is able to usurp the throne.
The throne belongs to the person who rules the realm justly yet firmly with a strong hand.
Aerys was not strong or wise, but a weak, jealous King
Probably the best change from the books. All these scenes are gold
Agreed. These were the scenes that got me hooked on the show, which led me to read the books.
Charles Dance is just amazing! I cannot imagine another person for this character. What an actor he is! 👏👏👏
The first few seasons of the show were so brilliantly written, the dialogue here is amazing.
Okay. I don’t think he knew it was Arya. I think he saw something in her, the thing he wished to instill in his own children. The thing that a caring/loving father (Ned) DID instill in his children. I think the point here is that Tywin’s strong hand couldn’t mold his children to what he sees in Arya. I think it makes him casually WONDER what “peasant” or second-hand lord raised her.
I don’t know if he knew she was a Stark he could’ve used her against Robb but He obviously figured out she wasn’t who she said she was and was from some noble northern family
@@mysteryjunkie9808 Well, just because she posed as a lowborn and was discovered not to be, doesn't mean she is noble. There may be a few classes in between.
He used the comparison to Cersei in a praising way. His children disappointed him as 40+ adults not as children. He very likely wasn't disappointed with them as children. He is also very likely someone you can never ever statistify and he will always criticse you for pushing more forward. Also if people would do their research on the character they would know why he is like he is and even form this scenes it should be obvious: his father was nice but a fool and people laughed at him with disrespect and he nearly ruined house Lannister. It is also very likely he would cursh with Arya because I doubt she would follow everything only of the sake of a legacy. The big question is more how he was when is wife still lived and if he would have been that ignorant to his children emotional need ifshe hand't died.
Clearly Tywin sees her as an asset, but the way he almost instinctively acts as a mentor to her is a fascinating piece of his character.
mentor is too strong a word.
He cant help himself, his instincts are to talk and pass his insight to everyone who shows promise. He is frustrated so much by his bannermen and children it's a miracle he is not just pick random people and having them listen to him!
He cant help himself, his instincts are to talk and pass his insight to everyone who shows promise. He is frustrated so much by his bannermen and children it's a miracle he is not just pick random people and having them listen to him!
i think all his kindess towards arya served two purposes.
when he first met arya, he was definitely impressed by her wit and had her work as his cup bearer. but when arya slipped up by not knowing her pretend house's banner, he realized she was faking an identity. later on when she picked up the book before he told her where it was, i think that's when he knew she might have been a highborn. and then finally, the food bit. while yes, it was a gesture of kindness, it let him be alone with arya and also let him poke her some more to see if she really is highborn. it lets him see her table manner and hear her manner of speech without having anything to get in the way. and i think thats exactly what happened when he corrects her pronunciation of "my lord". he heard that and all the pieces fell in place for him.
too bad he didnt realize it was arya lol
I love the combo of tension and humor these scenes managed… like this sort of writing is why this show’s early seasons attracted so many fans and genuine critical acclaim before they went off the deep end
Charles Dance! Not one bad performance in this entire series. A treasure of an actor.
fr!
8:58 Tywin has no idea how much he insulted Arya
In her youth, Cersei was like a tomboy. Wanted to be a knight, just like Jaime.. But Tywin didn't allow it
@@Patrickbatemanharvard Yeah, but how does Arya feel about being compared to the woman involved in her father and his men's death?
@@hansolobutimdead she felt honored
@@gottago1885 Ah yes, I would too feel honoured if someone told me I was just like the person second on my hitlist
"A mind should always be valued as a weapon." For all his atrocities, Tywin was one of the most dangerous men ever in this universe. Wish he had lived to the Long Night.
"My brother has his sword, and I have my mind. And a mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone."
“You will marry Night King and that will be the end of it” said Tywin to Cersei calmly.
I wonder if Tywin would have ever sen Night King and his White Walkers, not to mention wights, would he still maintain his cold and astute demeanour? I believe he would be scared
@@dominykasrudokas4034 I don't know about that for certain. But if it did, he'd make every effort not to make it visible.
It isn’t necessarily his fault I blame the Targaryens, he was perhaps the most loyal and he was treated like absolute shit and a joke they delve more into the books
Every moment here is so incredibly tense and suspenseful. Arya is in the same room with Tywin Lannister, the man waging a war against her family. And Tywin is damned smart. One mistake, one wrong move and he has her as a hostage. She can't outright lie and she can't feed him scraps. She needs to be vague enough to not give any explicit details and precise enough to still answer his questions. She's dancing on a razor's edge, but I think that some part of her enjoys it too. The thrill of closing in on her prey, the anticipation of the kill, the intrigue of talking to the man who destroyed her family.
Charles Dance and Maisie Williams were perfect here.
Hands down some of the best scenes in the whole series. Tender and wracked with tension all the same.
The moment she said "loyalty" was very sad
This was the show during its peak. Some of the best writing and scenes from the entire show took place in this season. Arya and Tywin was a change in story that the show did better than the books imo.
“Loyalty.”
One of the best lines in the series and it was from a conversation that never happened in the books.
People don’t give her enough credit. She literally outsmarted him. Asking him about his father, she knew that would intrigue him and distract him enough so that she could steal that paper. That’s insane for a girl of her age. He knows she’s smart but his greatest flaw is he underestimates so many people around him and that’s the exact reason he died at the hands of a son he underestimated his whole life.
"Look at it now. A blasted ruin."
Forshadowing for what would be left of Tywin's legacy; His only children (he never truly considered Tyrion his son), Cercei and Jamie, dead in each other's arms, buried under a blasted ruin. His house forever cast into irrelevance.
Disagree on the irrelevance part. Tyrion is still around and there are millions of Lannister cousins.
I thought u were gonna talk about the show, how it was the best and now a blasted ruin😂.
No the house is still around and he accepted Tyrion in birthtright. If not he would have killed him like he once said and wouldn't let live the luxury life he lived with Lannister money. He challanged him but he also gave him opportunities which he most of the time ruined. He also never plant to kill him what Tyrion didn't know though.
Somewhere in a beautiful place out in the country
@@Joker129 Nope because the ending was good if you undertsood the themes and characters of the show.
Am I the only one who'd love to have Tywin as a teacher? He's strict but he makes sure you learn
I would like to learn history from him :) or at the very least, just listen to him tell stories over a meal. He has that kind of voice and underlying charisma that makes you want to keep listening - kinda like Morgan Freeman and Sam Elliot
@@myladynaynay I actually had a history teacher who was very much like him. Not quite the same gravitas but he was a well-spoken, severe older gentleman who stayed sharp with constant study and travel. Very memorable experience.
What if he wanted to tap dat
My favorite scenes from GOT was the scenes with Charles and Maisie. Phenomenal writing and delivery from these actors.
Tywin is a top 5 villain of all time. Charles dance absolutely crushed his performance and these two are great in every scene
I really like Tywin dispite if his bad side
His actually a very good character
He protects his family
He inspires fear to protect his house and family
He liked Arya and he was proud of her
He was nice to her and gave her some lessons
I really wouldn't say his bad side, because that's what required in that era. Even the net Stark is a perfect character of a nice person; however, people like them win survive the game. So Tywin had to be like that because of the survival of him and his family.
@@anenglishmanplusamerican7107 agreed
Good and bad are relative.
He's a bad guy depending on the side you choose. In my opinion he's a winner and legend.
@@nikssu His not a bad guy
He knows how to survive in westeros and how to maintain power
I do agree when you say his a winner
When i say bad guy which is wrong his not, he is capeble of doing what needs to be done like being feared cruel to other houses and ruthless to keep the family alive and to keep their power
Theres times where I truly believe that Tywin knew who Arya was but refused to rat her out
😂
Yes I do too...they had such a powerful dynamic. I think he knew when they had the conversation about Her Father and His Father. "What killed him... Loyalty... you're a sharp one" I definitely am in agreement. I think he knew it was Arya.
I never even considered that idea...
Nah that is not tywin lol
Me too. Arya’s smart but Tywin’s smarter, with decades of experience in reading people. Little clues kept giving her away and she didn’t even realize it. If he did figure out who she really was he may have seen her as a potential bargaining chip, albeit one whose company he truly enjoyed. Maybe he thought if she didn’t know that he knew, she’d be more manageable. He obviously hadn’t known her long enough to know better. 😄
"Killers respect killers."
Tywin didn't know she was a Stark but he saw that ruthless nature, guile, and cunning. He was more proud of his cup-bearer than any of his bannermen (or children).
Suspense in these scenes is just palpable, and I could never tell which one of them was the bigger threat. Just stellar production.
Pretty sure he did know. He calling him “my lord” apparently gave her away from the start. He knew she was from Stark’s court at the very least.
I know he’s done some awful things, but whenever I see the scenes with him and Arya, I see what bit of tenderness Tywin had in him. What likely his wife saw and experienced. What he reserved for Jamie and Cersei when they were younger. I wonder what kind of man he would have been if he hadn’t felt the need to be cruel and intransigent to reverse the humiliation he felt his softhearted father brought to their name. I wouldn’t call him intrinsically good so he’s not a tragic character, but his fall was his disdain of ridicule and overwhelming need to be feared. In his mind it seemed fear was synonymous with the respect he craved.
That "Eat what you want" at 9:31 showed that streak of kindness in Tywin.
I disagree.
I think this was one of the great subtleties of the series. Review the tape.
"A man just tried to poison me, I want his head".
"Your supper sir."
You eat it.
No, I eat later as a servant.
No. You will eat as I watch.
Arya became Tywinn's food taster.
Tywinn, who believed that an expert assassin just tried to poison him.
He then orders his servant (a 12 year old girl) to eat in front of him as he watches to see if a poison takes effect.
He has never asked this 12 year old girl to eat food until someone tried to poison him.
Tywinn, genius Machiavellian, used Arya as his food taster, to watch if she was poisoned.
Tywinn, was watching a 12 year old girl to see if she was poisoned. (Little did he know that she was responsible for the poisoning and the target was the man who was actually poisoned).
Watch that scene again, include Tywinn chastising the Mountain, then watch Tywinn watching a little girl eat to see if his food was poisoned.
If Tywinn hated mutton, he would have told the cook.
This was Tywinn at his most genius and cruel.
@@mikeburke7053 i like how you explain basic things in a very detailed and thorough manner to the people in the comments. They seem to need it
@@mikeburke7053 She is expendable to him incase of a potential poisoning, sure, of course. yet he also seems to genuinely enjoy her company and their gamesmanship conversation.
@@Baratheon. Sure, he enjoyed the conversation. As a matter of fact the only time Tywinn laughed during the entire series was with Arya. "You remind me of my daughter". He was impressed with her and thought her smarter than most of his staff. He also seemed to like verbally sparring with her, until he thought she crossed the line. But in his mind she was simply the daughter of a lower unimportant Northern Lord, or perhaps even a bast+rd, not someone important enough to ransom or use as a tool of war/politics. She fooled him in that regard as she was actually one of the most valuable children in all the seven kingdoms.
But that does not change the fact that he was willing to poison her and watch her die, using a child as a shield in case someone was trying to poison him again through his food. That's cruel and perhaps one of the most immoral acts of the series, but genius, as she did not guess the real reasoning of why he ordered (not "invited", ordered, he did not accept her refusal) her to eat in front of him. Perhaps his action was even worse because he actually liked the innocent child he was willing to poison.
@@mikeburke7053 Yeah, basically what i'm trying to say is Tywin has never been hand-rubbingly evil like a cartoon villain.
He's willing to dispose of anyone to further House Lannister, except his heir, Jaime. Despite being fond of her, this girl is dispensable if it saves him from poisoning.
I'm sure he knows she's highborn. She's too well-read and she says 'my lord' not 'milord'. I think he knew the moment she first called him my lord. He probably thinks that given her situation, her house was defeated and she has nothing left. It would be useful to keep her around as a potential hostage or if she eventually went home she could tell others of how well he treated her. But only so useful, because he was willing to use her to test if his food was poisoned or not. He liked talking with her, but it was more than just that. He talked to her to get her to settle down and to get information from her. I imagine he thought she was a daughter of a dead minor lord and had no idea it could be Arya. I forget if at this point most people assumed she was dead or not.
Tywin did. It was mentioned the books the moment they met. “Talk like marbles in your mouth”
Indeed. And Tywin is known by his cruelty but he ignored Arya's position willingly. Perhaps his only weakness caused him the biggest trouble in long run but he respected the intelligence. Very sharp point in here..
He 100% knew Arya was a noble born
I take it as a strong hint that he EXPLICITLY told her that he knows IN THIS VIDEO at 9:45
Tywin knew Arya was highborn the second she didn't kneel.
"Have you met many stone masons my lord?"
I love Tywins smile at that moment... He's genuinely impressed...
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Season 8, Arya: “I’ll never know her, she’s not one of us”
I guess D&D forgot that Arya admired Targaryens
Season 8 doesn't exist, it's ALL a figment of our imagination.
@@jarrequevandermerwe3948 There’s a season 8?
It's also monumentally stupid to have the character that traveled the world and saw more of it than anyone else speak like some idiot who never once left the house they grew up in.
Sansa's the one who was betrayed by so many she thought could be trusted, she's the one most likely to distrust and dismiss strangesr. Arya would find shit out, not just assume.
But since D&D decided who would say what by spinning a wheel or some shit all characters are interchangeable
Charles Dance is an unmatched master in playing roles with power and an underlying tension of danger to everyone who overdoes it playing with it.
Arya is the child Tywin always wanted
He isn't really too fond of kids who eat a lot, yet do not grow, though.
@@Dickie6990 That's why you will never be his child
He had that in Tyrion but didn’t nurture him. Ned was just a better dad than Tywin
@@lilze Much better.
There’s zero doubt Ned was the best father figure in the entire series. All of the children he raised (which includes Jon Snow and Theon Greyjoy even though not his children by blood) loved, respected and admired him greatly. And the lessons he taught them played a huge role in their own character arcs.
Most of the other Lords were terrible fathers (albeit in different ways) - Tywin, Robert Baratheon, Stannis Baratheon, Randyll Tarly, Walder Frey, Roose Bolton, etc.
The only other Lords who might be somewhat decent as a father and show their children love and compassion from what we saw was Mace Tyrell and Oberyn Martell.
Yea, he secretly mentioned of his disappointment of their child thou. At least we can feel it :D
It’s like a unintentional running joke. Tywin gets along with everyone else’s children except his own.
“What killed him?”
“Loyalty”
Love the way they go in for the closeup on both Arya when she responds and for Tywins sly smile before “you’re a sharp little thing, aren’t you?”
Gods the dialogue was strong then!
I loved all the Tywin and Arya scenes because you can see he almost sees Arya as the daughter he wanted Cersei to be and Tywin was a good teacher to Arya too
I love their interaction scenes. You can really tell he has a soft spot for Arya, and Arya of course learned some good skill coming from Tywin.
Tywin: "You're too smart for your own good. Has anyone told you that?"
Arya: "Yes. You did, just now."
These two matched wits so perfectly... Arya knew how to be the perfect balance of subservient, insightful and sassy with Tywin... who rather appreciated her banter to that of the Southern Lords.