Based on a VORON, made by SOVOL... but is the SV08 any GOOD?
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The community needs to figure out what they actually want. You can't decry companies taking open source designs, iterating on them and releasing them-- but in the same breath getting upset at Bambu and everyone being closed source and proprietary.
The Voron team released everything under a license that allows this, Sovol have done the right thing and been *completely* open and also mentioned they're going to donate a portion of the sales to the Voron Team. This is *exactly* what we should be *encouraging* manufacturers to do. It creates a healthy and sustainable ecosystem around open source hardware. Angus makes the comment that the nozzle is proprietary, that's fine-- because the gantry is a standard 2.4 gantry for all intents and purposes, so you can print and install a dragon burner, or stealthburner or whatever compatible toolhead you want. Don't like the inductive probe? Install Tap or Beacon or Cartographer. Just because they're doing something different that makes manufacturing easier or more cost effective it doesn't make it bad.
If we don't embrace companies who are making genuine efforts to do the right thing, we'll just end up with closed source bambu clones and no-one wants that.
1000%
I think the main problem with Bambu is that they obviously use a modified open source firmware but haven't published the modifications to my knowledge.
I think what Sovol did here is great and there will soon be tons of upgrades around for this printer. The only people who really lose are those who sell voron 2.4 kits.
@@FreeOfFantasy Bambu printers are nice, its there practices as a company that makes me stay away and not recomend them.
@@FreeOfFantasy It worked for DJI copying multiwii and Bambu was founded by guys from DJI it's literally the exact same thing I saw happen probably 15 years ago being done by people from the same company none the less. It makes me sick the amount of people back then with DJI and now today with Bambu who say they don't care if they copied the work of the community because it's a good printer.
@@stevedegeorge726 Fair enough, but I hope you are avoiding Microsoft, Google and CZcams as well, as their practices are much worse :)
As many other commenters have noted, I think this was the "best case scenario" approach to mass producing the Voron design. It's far less expensive than buying a kit (not to mention the hours saved on assembly), it still remains completely open source (STEP files were a great touch), and they're paying homage to the Voron team.
SOVOL deserves their flowers for this one. The only thing I'm waiting on is a review discussing its performance once it's enclosed. Regardless, at this price I'm still positive I will be purchasing one in the very near future.
I have ome on order snce late last week. I have also ordered it with the enclosure. I will call back here and let you all know how things panned out.
Cheers.
Mike
Agreed. For the most part this went as well as one could expect. Communication was bumpy, but in the end we got access to an affordable large volume core-xy printer, based on one of the best designs out there, that continues to be open. It has quirks, but it's an exciting new base to do some amazing work with.
@@mikeskerritt9618I ordered one at launch but currently shipping times are delayed. Let’s hope any of us get one within a month or two
Nice job Angus. I have been unsure over whether or not I wanted to review this. Shout out to Rat Rig for also releasing full CAD models, although they are a kit you assemble rather than a one hour job. Also, don't let the police catch working dangerously in bare feet. I'd recommend some safety thongs as per Australian law.
I don't understand why you would not want to review this? No-one has been able to accurately articulate what is wrong with what they're doing here.
They've taken something that's open source, made changes to it, released those changes and made a product from it-- contributing back with both the source *and* financially to the community that produced the original works. This is *exactly* what should happen in a healthy open source ecosystem and what open source should be about. I would argue they're doing more for the Voron ecosystem than the countless kits from the likes of LDO who are doing very little beyond packaging up someone else's work and selling it.
I'm not attempting to attack anyone here, I genuinely want to understand what people's issue is here.
Sorry but why exactly would a commercial fork of a Voron not deserve a review? I think it's an amazing entry point for all voron buyers, and should also inspire voron/community to make a more budget version.
Calling this a fork is wrong. It's a different design altogether.
@@ucirello No, calling it a fork is exactly right. They took an open source design and modified it, that's what a fork is.
@@shanemshort I think it has to do with the drama around the printer itself. From what I understand, the old Voron twitter/X account was hijacked by a former team member and said person has been stirring the pot over the SV08.
As for the kits, I always looked at them as a convenience for getting the parts you needed to assemble the printer. They are doing the work of part sourcing for you, and that, to me, is a worthwhile service. You can argue that Sovol is doing more by iterating on the design, but I'd say it's six of one, half-dozen of the other.
I downloaded the full machine model and imported it into FreeCAD. Worked great! This is a huge deal. Anyone can now start with exact measurements and make modified or new parts for the machine without having to reverse-engineer it. Perfect for those who want a bare bones solid foundation to build on. If Sovol are able to avoid major quality issues, this machine will become a massive hit.
Really loved your take on it, plus, STEP FILES!!! Holy cats, that's beyond great!
Holy cats at 12:59 😅
I dont get the hate on sv08 for using voron as a base. Voron guys did make voron knowing that they wouldnt make any money out of it(other than patreon). Sovol used the design, improved it, made it mass producible*, put it on open source, donates money to voron for every sold sovol(which they didnt have to do) and made the machine cheap for its specs. Plus its fully open source again.
So again, is this something people should really hate? I even see people complaining how little money they are giving to voron team. Imagine if they sold 100k of these machines, that means 100k dollars donated.
And when you think the cost of voron and the effort to building it, this is perfect machine for (tool) category.
I'd prefer if it was more like 5$-10$, but in general I totally agree with you!
@@MUuulerOriginal the problem with that they will lose a lot of money. If i remember its 2 per machine and thats happy medium
@@yzkn8848 Charge $5 more then. Problem solved.
@@MUuulerOriginalthe voron team doesn't even want the money from what I heard
This is the sort of thing I'd hope @Makersmuse would retract honestly.
What made the Ender 3 great? Hint, it wasn't Chinese manufacturing. Well, not only.
Sovol is also donating $2 to the Voron project for every sv08 they sell!
Pretty cool move imho
Pay my thoughts no mind but that has the same energy as "a small loan of a million dollars"
@@guestc142 More like the multi-billion dollar supermarkets asking if you, the consumer, want to donate $1 to "help feed hungry kids"...
Don't get me wrong, any donation is greatly appreciated, but maybe they should donate like, $20 per machine sold, instead of just $2. That seems like a much bigger deal.
Funny enough, the Litter Robot brand of auto-cleaning cat boxes had a "promo" where you could buy their latest generation of Litter Robot + some accessories and they would "donate" to an animal rescue society. But when you click on the item in their store, it says they'll donate $7 per unit sold. The package is ~$800.
other comments have said that Voron has refused these donations
@@guestc142 to be fair to Sovol it is a 0.3% donation
Love the degree to which they followed the open source mentality!
Yes, they made a commercial product largely based on other people's work, but unlike other manufacturers, they are keeping their work open, too!
SOVOL are the first company to give $2 per sale for each printer sold to Voron community.
Not a lot, but first time.
And you should've mentioned it.
Loved the vid. Already bought one and waiting to be shipped :)
I have to commend Sovol for staying true to the open source roots of the Voron project and not simply making a closed proprietary clone.
I can live with the few concessions they've made to make this easier to mass produce and deliver good print results at a price point and I'm sure that in time there will be adaptors for standard nozzles.
Very excited to see this released!
I am pretty impressed by Sovol's attitude as a company.
Open Source is Open Source. As long as the licence is respected, you"re welcome to do whatever you want, including opening your fork.
Sovol seems to be hitting all the right steps for me at least. While I have found the performance of Bambu printers impressive, I pretty much reject any option that isn't open.
I'm definitely in need of a new printer, but it will be a while before I make any purchases. I hope that the TPU challenges can be overcome.
As far as being based on the Voron, that's fine. From the comments I see that they are contributing to the Voron project based on units sold which is frankly exceptional.
There is talk about adapting the Daksh-bolt to this machine. It would potentially make it a 5 tool head machine in the $1000 range.
Awesome stuff, this is kind of the open source dream come true. It does not exist so people "have to do it themselves", that is merely a downside. To have people willing to make products with the "nobody can own data" mindset, is a Godsend. It also fits so well in the 3D printing community where everybody is already working together to try and help each other get the best possible outcomes. It's how everything should be, it's not to stifle commerce but to help it flourish.
Honestly, this is what open source is about. Companies SHOULD use it to make good products for people like me which don't have time building a printer from scratch.
1:55 I need to log a formal complaint! Why have we not been properly introduced to your very cute assistant already? 😸
I've got to say, I think that's really cool the way they open source everything and then provide with full drafts of their machines. That would definitely make me lean that direction on my next printer. However, having a proprietary nozzle makes me lean back the other way. I guess I'll have to do a little looking into it and see if there is a way to retrofit another type of nozzle just in case the company dissappears. IDK, maybe I'm overthinking it.
13:04 That a Cute cat, It's like cat saying 'Ready for the Pic! See I'm cute.'
The price point on this is simply incredible. The fully opensource with step files, doubly so, Some part of me feels like it cheapens the voron experience, but that is exactly the point and that i just have the wrong attitude about it, Nothing about this printer locks you into a closed eco system, it lets new comers get their feet wet with voron tech for a fraction of the price, anyone who wants the full voron experience can always built a 2.4 or whatever subsequent variations come down the line, and this newfound accessibility to such a powerful opensource platform opens the doors to new contributions from people who may previously been too intimidated to build or unable to afford entry to such a hobby. Overall very pleased with Sovols Approach.
nice review esp. about the CAD files!!
I think all printers should be measured by how many cats could comfortably fit in them, thats my new favorite measuring tchnique!
WHAT?! Holy smokes, well done Sovol! They’ve really been impressing me lately with their printers, and this takes the cake.
Great review, I kept waiting for the other shoe to drop, but it never did. Well, no hardened steel nozzle right now is a bummer, but if they come sometime soon, I think it wouldn’t be too bad.
Somebody posted one of these on the voron reddit trying to get a serial number for a Voron 2.4. Needless to say, it didn't qualify
Lmaoo
But why?😊
lots of printers for ants machines get serials....
In the tech community, the Voron crowd is one of the most strange groups of people I’ve ever had the displeasure of interacting with.
@@tiestofalljays as a multiple voron owner.. wat?
Very useful video Angus. It was an amazing review
Lmao waiting for a print to finish, 2:30am where I am. Nice to see coreXY printers becoming more accessible
Thank you for continuing to provide honest reviews. You are providing incredible value to the community. Can you please do a review on the Chameleon 3d? More people need to know about that awesome machine.
Did you do some accelerometer calibrations comparing a wobbly table vs a solid one? like how different are the recommended speeds from klipper
Love watching all theses videos on new printers while I still have my clapped out oringal ender 3 that works perfectly fine for what I need.
If only there were some sort of machine that could be used to manufacture custom table feet with carpet grabbing spikes 😊. Thanks for the great review. I’d love to see reviews of these fast printers include a look at the print quality when the are slowed down, ideally to speeds that match printers hobbyist are more familiar with. What do the prints look like when when optimizing for print quality without worrying about speed?
Sovol went on the correct path! And after all this is what open source is about "have an idea, make it open to everyone who can ad to it, benefit from other peoples contributions".
This is the most exciting new printer since the bambu x1c, imo.
Good stuff! You can put spiked feet for the table to stop carpet wobbles. Metal ideally.
Thanks for the great review. I've been monitoring these voron inspired printers and there is another one in the same segment : troodon 2.0. unfortunately there aren't a great many reviews of them out there.
Great review Angus. I would love to see someone do a thorough review of the SV08 with its enclosure and the higher temp filaments.
Nice review Angus. Did you have to do much tuning to get that clearance castle, or was it good out of the box?
Excellent review Angus! I really didn't like the marketing for this one, it left a bad taste in my mouth, and showed me how their lack of understanding and respect to the community really is. The questionable support and ongoing lack of support/parts and future proofing from sovol is a grave concern of mine also. The comgrow acquisition (if that really was a thing) showed that ongoing support of their recently launched line up lacked all substance.
New people coming into the hobby and having struggles due to manufactures short cuts, and want to just move on post release is simply toxic, lacking mostly in any innovation.. I hope they work on those elements and come back stronger, we will see the next model in 6 months so lets look forward to that.
A very interesting machine, love open source. Modify for pellet feeding and sapphire nozzle with some foam insulation. This would be a good machine to try this on.
I have sv06 plus and it became my favourite go to and the fact that nothing is "proprietary" is just awesome. And everything is affordable
For that table, they make spiked feet for speakers that could be used to keep things from wobbling about.
You beat me to it!
About the overextrusion issue. My SV06 does the exact same thing. I think it's just how they tune the default extrusion multiplier at SOVOL.
Pretty nice price point for what you get. Anyhow this is the nature of the open source license - they licensed it this way specifically so companies like Sovol could make it easier for end users like us to get into Voron printer.
Just to be clear, it's a Sovol SV08, not "Sovol Voron 2.4".
Personally, I appreciate the wobbly bases because it’s more true to life for how I imagine more viewers’ setups would be.
Wow, I had no idea that it was priced so competitively. I've been seeing great things about it from other makers as well
I'm happy to see Sovol building the Voron. There's plenty of people that want to try one but don't have the time to research & build one. Personally I'd like to see a direct drive option with a more standard hot end. This looks like a good printer though, and the price isn't bad.
Reverse Bowden is already direct drive
I am SUPER tempted to buy a SV08, but if i do, I know that Bambu will launch a 400x400x400 the very next day
Great review man, I felt the same way about the SV08.
I still can't afford one haha
Joel Telling made the statement that Sovol is actually paying a royalty per machine to Voron.
Few companies have said the same in past and never paid a cent.
They have been, 2x $1000 dollar donations so far, they announced it on twitter
@@jamesm3268 They have already paid two grand up front.
They just said this. There is no agreement.
@@jamesm3268 I think Nero3D said the same. He is either on the Voron project team or very close to the team
Thanks for this review! I want to love this printer more than the Bambu Lab offers. I'm in the market of upgrading my aging delta printer, and right now the main contenders are the BambuLab P1S and the Sovol SV08 (with enclosure). Lower on the list is Flashforge Adventurer 5M Pro, QiDi Q1 Pro and the Formbot Voron and Trodoon offers, but as it looks right now, the P1S and SV08 seem to offer the best balance for me.
Thankyou Angus for reviewing this machine. I've seen a couple of reviews of this machine, which were enough to get my attention, but I wasn't sure I trusted the reviewers. Your reviews, I trust.
I'm going to be buying my first 3-D printer for a project I want to prototype, and the large bed size and speed on this unit are of significant interest to me.
Do you think a first timer could manage this machine without pulling all their hair out in frustration?
Also... I realize that you would be guessing, but do you think that this machine would work with something like ASA or ABS, once an enclosure was added?
Again, thank for all the videos you've done. I've learned a lot from them.
Nice subtle plug for the LTT Screwdriver at 0:51 lol
I have the Formbot Troodon 2.0, same idea….. Voron 2.4 based printer. It is based on rep rap firmware which makes tuning more difficult for getting rid of ringing but the Voron design is solid…
If I hadn't gotten the X1C in January I'd be ordering this. But as the Bambu La\b is my 5th FDM printer, one of which has been retired into my garage (out of sight out of mind), I cannot let myself buy another one right now. As always great review. Speaking of the garaged printer, I wish I had discovered your channel before buying it in 2018 as I would have gone for a different brand, and not the Monoprice Maker Ultimate (Wanhoa D6 rebranded) with which I started.
If you already have 5, the one to look out for is the idex RatRig Vcore4
I cant believe i just noticed the keyboards you have, What kind of music do you make?
I love how the first 2 comments are spam porn bots 😂
nah they're totally real ! 😫
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A SHORT BUT TO THE POINT REVIEW. I HAVE ONE ON ORDER WITH THE LARGER SCREEN AND ENCLOSURE +A COMPLATE SET OF NOZZLES. THE ENCLOSURE SEEMED ALITTLE OVER PRICED BUT WHEN I FINELY SEEN JUST WHAT IS INCLUDED IN THE KIT I WAS HAPPY TO PAY THE EXTRA. IT COMRS WITH GLASS DOORS ANT TOP STEEL SIDES AND BACK. DRAG CHAINS FANS ETC. OVERALL I AM HAPPY WITH MY PURCHASE.
CHEERS. MIKE.
@@mikeskerritt9618 My good sir, why are you shouting?
Further, why are you posting as a reply to this comment?
@MakersMuse
That kitty print is amazing. The details are shocking.
I know that's a real kitty very cute by the way but anyway great review of this printer. This printer does look very nice and lucrative to buy for the price it's at
The nozzle situation on modern printers is the main reason I haven't upgraded to something fancy and new. A new standard needs to be chosen.
The same for me.
I held off, and then just bought a ton of spare nozzles.
it's mounted to a standard linear rail, nothing stopping you from putting a stealthburner or some other toolhead on it and running what ever nozzle tickles your pickle.
Why? It's a consumable part of the tool. A reason for not upgrading, sure, but for this to be a main reason seems absurd.
With all of the 3D CAD files being available, allowing people to modify or create new parts, surely different hot end assembly designs will be available from the community going forward. Maybe one of them will be whatever you think is more of a standard. Even considering this part of the cost of the machine, the value proposition is pretty good.
There's really no reason to move from the V6 volcano setup. This "newest is best" attitude is getting out of hand.
so what are the drawbacks and oddities besides the hotend assembly?
How consistent is the bed leveling? One of the main things i love about my p1s is the bed leveling. it nevers needs an offset change.
the hotend is a huge dealbreaker for me tho, Plus I couldn't find hardened nozzles?!
This machine is complicated, from optics perspective. While it’s not a VORON, it shares some DNA with it by being based on V2. If people get this and then decide to build themselves the real thing, nobody will be upset 😊 I do have to commend Sovol for following GPL3 license.
Its kinda a mix innit.
Has the Trident style screws and 2.4 type gantry.
Either way, I think for the low tier "we dont test for user experience" brands, they did a great job.
If only they did that final part of actually using the printer themselves before shipping and making the ux great (all the weird overlapping macros, no hardened steel nozzle etc etc).
That over extrusion I now know what my flsun v400 is doing. It does that sometimes but not to the same extent.
I like the fact it's open source compared to other companies we shall not name !
Seems like an awesome printer. One of the reasons I love my Ender 3 and CR-10 so much, is that they are open source and easy to modify. The SV08 is at the very least open source, so I am wondering how well it would be to modify. Could you fit parts meant for the Voron onto this machine? Or would you have to adjust/redesign everything, that you want for this new printer? If one could just upgrade/sidegrade to an original Voron hotend, extruder and fan shroud at any point, when their nozzles may become unobtainable, then that would simply fix the whole issue/risk, wouldn't it? Parts for a Stealthburner can be ordered as a kit from China for 30-40€ (idk how well made each of these is, but I assume they are good enough and one would at most upgrade one or two small parts later)
How long did the benchy take to print and what layer height was it at ?
Any way to do multimaterial/multicolor on this printer?
In your opinion, do you think this or the P1P are better printers overall? They have nearly identical price points, so I guess it really comes down to whether or not you want open source or not.
P1P is more polished and probably more reliable, but smaller print volume.
Great review my friend. The kitty print at the end was amazing, so realistic! 🤣 @shanemshort, I agree completely. Sovol did the right thing by donating back to the Voron project and keeping this open source. The proprietary hotend is a little disappointing, but they needed to keep it affordable so you have to expect a few sacrifices. This is not aimed at being a replacement for a quality Voron kit, it is aimed at someone who can't afford, doesn't want to source and build, or isn't able to build a real one and I think they nailed it.
13:04 i need a "cat for scale" for every other printer review now
The Purrfect scale.
the proprietary nature of the high speed printers has been a deal breaker for me so far, so seeing something like this makes me very happy, i'll keep an eye on this one while they iron out some of the issues
So far you've been a fool then, but open source is great too certainly nobody could have anything against it
They have always been available in kit form.
That said, personally Id be on the watch for the idex vcore 4.
9:57 good lord that's awesome
Are you planning to review the Bambu Lab A1 (not mini) any time soon? I was thinking of getting one instead of the A1 mini.
nah no plans. they did a recall for the heat bed cable but now that's fixed, I suspect it's quite good.
@@MakersMuse OK thanks for the reply mate!
In my case it would be a better option than buying a Voron as I am absolutely hopeless at electronics and I struggle at the best of times with computers. So for us less technically minded its a good option and at a lower price bracket to ! Thank you for your review. Much appreciated!
the second the sv08 ships in the uk im dropping the dosh on it and i cant wait! my ender 3 pro is gonna have a rest finally
ok .. I think this is my next printer :) As most ppl who like printers I own a few and while there is space in the house for more, I dont have enough ;) I like everything about this printer, but the main reason im choosing this one over other avilable is the open source route they take ... I really like that i could print replacements and having the step file is just awesome ! So i feel this one is totally worth the money :)
try reducing wobble further with one giant heavy paver, or maybe a set of 4 large pavers, from Bunnings, placing it between the carpet and the bench feet
So given it's based on Voron could you swap in a Voron style extruder if Sovol stops producing theirs?
I think the price shows just how much R&D costs. Sovol has managed to save a *lot* of time and wealth by building upon the Voron tram's designs, and that's almost certainly reflected in the end pricing.
(For the record, I don't think Sovol is doing anything wrong with this printer; they're following Voron's rules, and it's not up to anyone else to get angry on Voron's behalf.)
As for the nozzle - the v6 needs to die as quickly as possible. Screwing three different pieces of metal together at a temperature high enough to light paper on fire is a dangerous kludge, and the all-in-one nozzle and throats of the last couple of years are the best thing to ever hit FDM printing. Yes, it would be nice if one design would emerge as the go-to, instead of everyone's being different, but the actual functionality of these new nozzles is just so, so much better. In my not very humble opinion, all the people going on about the lack of "normal" nozzles are on the same page as all the people who'd rather spew ridiculous amounts of carbon into the sky than buy a fuel-efficient, modern car, because the "can't fix the engine." Technology marches on, people.
I'm not sure if you've done this, but I'd just love to see a vid of which is/are your current go-to favourite printer(s).
10:22 the only others I'm aware of are the AnkerMake printers...although they aren't an open source design.
9:35 yeah so refreshing to see a opesource tinker manschine, havent seen one in ages....
13:04 it's amazing what you can make with a printer.
Bambu has a STEP file available for their frame, IIRC. I think it is public because of printable P1P enclosures that they used to market the printers closer to launch
it looks to me like SOVIK has made a commercial version of the Voron in *EXACTLY* the way I'd hope they would. Awesome!
I hope that a mod for a tool changer like the 2.4 one comes out. That would be a dream.
Every printer has a trade off. The killer for me is the custom nozzles, I think that was a huge mistake. What they did with open source and donations to the Voron project is great though. I refuse to jump on the Bamboo wagon so will keep kicking my next one around. Still leaning towards a Qidi with heated chamber and klipper, I think it better suits my needs.
If I recall, Solvol was going to donate a couple of dollars per machine sold to the Voron project.
As long as they keep it full open source, then I don't think there are any issues with this from licensing or anything like that. Solvol seem to be sticking to the full license agreements and that's fine in my mind. The machine is not overly expensive compared to similar machines on the market, and wit ha few firmware tweaks, some slicer profile tweaks and a few different nozzle options, this could really be a competitor for some of the closed source machines. I am considering replacing y Ender 5 Pro with one of these. Mainly because I am at the stage now where I am beyond playing printer upgrades and tweaking and prefer to just print good quality prints. It should fit nicely in my existing "tent" style enclosure, but I may also look into the Solvol enclosure as an option is it looks quite a clean solution
Creality caught lacking. Sovol makes up for it. Great job by the SOVOL team.
5:39 get some spike feet like they have on the bowers and Wilkins speaker bases.
He could print some in hard TPU
The s08 nozzles/hotends are the same as the "Bambu" replacements they sell on AliExpress
If I made an enclosure for the sovol 08, what would i need to change to print carbon based material petg and etc?
Normally just a nozzle. But there are no hardened nozzles yet, so you wait or replace the hotend
Add some concrete pavers under your desk and it wont shake. I did that with a plastic banquet table and it was a night and day difference.
@MakersMuse I like the wobbly table. Honestly, you should try to make the table extremely unstable as a joke. Like a 3d printer on top of ball bearings.
BTW, I would have bought this printer however, the same day it was announced my trident kit shipped from Magic phoenix.
Vorons are some of the best printers and are the only ones that can rival bambu. Before this, getting a Voron 2.4 would cost you a lot more time and money. I love how much more approachable they’ve made the 2.4
Not even close.
Firstly, Voroms require much more attention to own and especially build. They have no official auto z offset calibration and scoffed at it for a while till it became obvious everyone wanted it and now theyre working on it.
Secondly, Ratrig exists and the Vcore 4 seems awesome.
Thats not saying Vorons are bad, and even Ratrigs require more effort than BBLs but just that I think peoppe need to know open source fast printers exist other than vorons. Let me also throw vzbots in the ring too, though those are more about utterly deranged high end speed.
How does orcaslicer compare to superslicer? Ive been wanting to play with tree supports for a while
Organic tree supports are pretty good from my experience
It's easily the best slicer out there right now
I currently have a Creality K1. I used to use Creality Slicer and Cura Slicer but after testing Orca there is no turning back. Built in calibration tools and the perfect Klipper integration did it for me.
OS absorbed all current Ps and SS and put it in a better package with a lot of qol. I was a skeptic who recently finished converting over to prove to a friend they were wrong and I was the one who was wrong. It’s got a lot of gas.
4 hidden comments? It's good. I came from Cura to use my A1 mini
Leveling Method: Inductive Sensor + pressure Sensor ?
What ? How ? and Why is nobody talking about it ?
Temperature drift on this sensor ?
And shurely sombebody will bring out Nozzles right ? I really want to print CF sooner or later
Like the head is detachable, but can it be changed to something more Universal ?
Screw a piece of plywood to the bottom of the legs on the printer stand. That way it's not sitting on four points on the carpet. It'll make it a lot more stable
13:04 that is a very impressive and lifelike print.
They didn't mention it had MMU capability!!!
Are you going to update your website? It still lists the SV07
is it overextrusion or is the infill interface with the wall to high?
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This one has the right price for build size. Nice review like always Angus and open source, Orca slicer...heck ya...this thing is a winner. Now if they would just send me one for review LOLOL..
Its really a Voron 2.4 350, just a mass produced version. Its even running VANILLA Klipper and not some hack job company version. The nob interface is default to the 2.4 if you were to build one directly from the BOM yourself instead of out of a kit and its cheaper to build a 2.4 that way then via a kit. Kits for the 2.4 have the 3.5" LCD mod instead of the default interface. So really there isn't a reason to get the SV08 without its enclosure, otherwise its just an incomplete printer. Even then the SV08 isn't entirely a "stock" 2.4 350 either, as they are running CANBUS which is a very common mod, as of late, to do to your 2.4. CANBUS puts only 4 wires to your toolhead instead of running drag chains, and about 8-10 wires, back down to the motherboard and PSU.
I have a Voron 2.4 350 R2 from the LDO kit and have had it for almost a year, around 2k print hours (a few reinstalls of Klipper kinda resets its clock) already on it and I just love this thing. Already have some mods on it like running TAP instead of Inductive probe, I had kickly but never got it running right (docking). Knomi 2.0 is just a cute mod and I also have Knomi 1.0 sitting around as extra might have to find or figure a mod out to mount him somewhere on a SV08 when I get one.
Except it ISN"T a voron. None of the parts are interchangeable and they're not eligible for a voron SN.
@@chrismay2298 The machine is a Voron in everything but name only. Ya there are differences but a lot of the mods for Vorons will easily be adapted to fit this. With the fully released CAD file for the machine, that means you can print replacement pieces of the injected parts. You would need to get heatset inserts for said new pieces but it would be easy to fix and repair the machine down the line.
Are you going to review the RatRig Vcore4 IDEX?
Seems like a real Prusa XL competitor (as in its probably attractive to similar people). This is especially true since even the "fully assembled" XL kits still require a ton of assembly.