As Basic As Things Get | Thoughts on Hi-Fi Rush
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- čas přidán 21. 08. 2024
- In this spoilers-free video, I give my thoughts on Hi-Fi Rush. A competent hack-n-slash that isn't confident enough to emphasize on its own well-designed combat.
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damn man what hifi rush do to u
You clearly didnt finish the video
@@sibel9272 damn man what hifi rush do to u
@@bnjxh787l ok.
@@sibel9272
Gosh man this is such a massive shit!
But hey it's alright I kinda enjoyed it. No criticism pls 😖👉👈
I think some of the criticism with regards to the platforming and combat being more on the simple side is quite fair. But it seems like there are points where you’re either way too harsh about little things or there are aspects of the game you’ve just refused to cover.
You mention the game looking good but don’t speak of the incredibly well made animation of the characters or even the 2d drawn cutscenes. You mention Chai being a tool but never go into his growth where he slowly becomes more aware of the situation he’s in and the responsibility he has to this new group of friends. No mention of his pep talk to Peppermint as an example. Then there’s the complaining that the Easter eggs and references aren’t in depth enough, as if a reference needs depth and can’t just be a fun little moment for people to recognise. Chai literally pauses in the same walking stance as the classic Bigfoot picture. This doesn’t need commentary nor does it need to serve a specific purpose other than being a fun addition. Music wise I think they stuck with a particular tone to elicit certain feelings and that’s the reason for alternative rock being the main genre used. Whirring by The Joy Formidable being a great example of the right track at the right time
As someone who had never heard that song prior to that moment I agree. Lit me up like a firework.
@@GarnetSunset i hadn't heard it before either and definitely had a moment just vibing with this group of characters and relishing in the feel good vibe of the song. Great highlight
I didn't watch the video fully yet, but i also want to mention that since the beginning of the game everyone call him a loser, he thinks of himself as a rockstar, thinks about a giant cround that screams "Chai, Chai, Chai", but he is pretty bad at working as a team. Remember how he said "I'm leaving after that anyway". Then that one moment when Macaron says "We're a team, after all", and Chai responses with "Yeah...". His whole life he was a loser, a nobody, and finally, someone thinks of him not as some weirdo, but as a teammate, as a friend. Later he talks with Peppermint about her family, her brother, he worries about Macaron being stressed and calms him down. He grows as a character and deepends his bonds with new teammates
Uhhhh, yeah, can't say I agree with a lot of stuff here (the part about Zanzo's level in particular was just a bizarrely cynical way to interpret such a simple joke of the devs poking fun at themselves and standard creative/business procedure in the production of projects like this, I feel) but the fact that you wrote off the combat as basic while also barely talking about the support characters with all their special moves with positional attributes and combo extending capabilites, the surprisingly good enemy variety, *consistently* great boss roster (a rarity in this genre if you think about it), chip system, hidden encounters, neat level of challenge that's offered on higher difficulties etc. etc. etc., if at ALL kinda left a bad taste in my mouth, man.
Literally almost no mention at all of any of those things. Funny that...
@reganpt1 the dude is clearly actually like a dipshit in this video holy shit
yeah this comment about sums up my feelings with this vid
With difficulty, I think his take was fair. A good difficulty is one in which a new player and veteran can get some difficulty instead of just the new player having trouble. Thats just me tho, and yeah it is weird how he didnt address the other gameplay elements but maybe he was just talking about the core gameplay ig? Idk
This channel is not very good at reviewing video games and shows that some people are better off keeping their opinions to themselves.
The Zanzo analogy was pretty clear. It's about being over perfectionist to the point you harm your employees and stifle the actual work being done. Yes having a creative vision is good, but if you keep being too scrutinizing every single detail of it for perfection, not only do you waste the team's effort, u waste resources and the work ultimately doesn't get done. This is also an actual issue in the industry (games that end up in development hell that then end up being crunched to meet deadlines all because the dude in charge prioritizes his vision over the reality of the situation. And no this isn't solely a AAA games issue, indies also deal with this)
Hideaki Anno is even like that some.
It was getting so bad, the Action Director of Shin Kamen Rider was about to walk out before Anno, in tears, begged him back.
It’s a thing that happens.
I'm a little late but you remember during Zanzo's battle gauntlet when he gets so upset he sends a bunch of programmers and scrubs to their demise?
Yeah, firing employees added more money into the budget. He literally got more money from firing people to throw at you.
I must admit I'm a little confused about how you find the gameplay boring yet listed Ghostwire Tokyo as a game you did like. That game has some of the most cookie cutter open world gameplay that we've seen over and over again the past decade. As much as I adore the No More Heroes franchise, its gameplay is also about as basic as it gets. The thing that brings those games together are their setting and stories, and the same goes for Hi Fi. Love your videos as always, but this one seemed a little mean spirited for odd reasons.
If you're really confused about why I criticize Hi-Fi Rush but praise No More Heroes, then I question if you've ever paid attention to any of my analysis videos on those games.
You're inferring that Hi-Fi Rush has the same level of nuanced writing, endearing characters, and gripping story, so I should not be criticizing it so much. I feel like I brought enough arguments into this video showing why I would never have the same sentiment. Again, I think you have trouble paying attention to what I'm saying in my videos. Same goes for anyone that's on the same wavelength as your comment.
Last thing, I praise Ghostwire as much as I do because it has fantastic visuals, enemy design, and bore a much more endearing story.
@@Ghenry Ah yes, this well made burger isn't the same level as a high class meat dish, therefore you should only eat at fancy restaurants.
Can't I have both?
@@Onemanshowoff Haha. The dude comes off as a really unlikable dick. So weirdly hostile and self-important. I do agree with the guy that the platforming stuff is pretty annoying, though. But you could say the same thing about Bayonetta, really.
@@GhenryYeah, tgese days companies can't make games with simple plots, with simple lessons, just to have fun. People shouldn't play these games. Games must have a lot of drama and deep thoughts. As the other guy said, you can't eat good burger because it's not a high class meat.
Jesus, it's like comparing persona 5 and RE4, and then crying "Why persona 5 isn't scary????"
@@glam_af Where did he say you can’t play Hi fi rush because I can’t find it. Comparing Hi-fi rush to other hack and slashes/ beat ‘em ups is completely valid.
Didn’t expect you would think this about the game. And probably the only negative video I have seen on the game. Also I really don’t agree with the “baby’s first hack and slash” comment.
I believe they said that Zanzo was based off their experiences with higher-ups in the videogame companies they used to work for. People who don't really understand the amount of work which goes into projects, nor how unreasonable the demands they make are, when working in such a complex medium.
Overall I really enjoyed Hi-Fi rush, and while I can say it isn't for everybody, I really gelled with the characters, and am a sucker for found family tales. The music was incredible, the artstyle was fantastic, all the small details really showed that they cared about the overall project, and I found the combat super enjoyable for what it was. Either way, keep up the good work, and have a nice day.
the combat is simple enough but with enough basic building blocks that its a action game id love to use to introduce people to the character action genre, since parries and pause combos being on beat is a really good way to get people to learn this style. i could have used more combos but i get that this is kinda a new concept in an of itself
Watching through the video and it feels like you’ve missed the point on a lot of things. Chai developing from a self centered asshole to being an genuine friend to his group, Zanzo being a commentary on creative directors being so ambitious and selfish that it’s detrimental, the whole game just trying to be a simple plot. If you wanna play a more overall complex game then go play that, just don’t force the ideals of other properties onto this one for the sake of “criticism” when it’s not trying to be those games.
i think the thing with zanzo was more pointing at creatives who actively abused the peopel around them and thinks they're making the sequal to the bible -Inafune, druckmann, cage- more than those who are excentric but can be alot to deal with, if htat makes sense?
No that's exactly what it is and I'm surprised he didn't pick up on that.
Kinda weird to say that they're making fun of creatives like Lynch and then gets mad when there's a scene in the game that exist with the sole purpose of saying they love him and his creative work.
Even if it's not it's kinda crazy to suggest the one scenario he had thought of it's just the only possibility when it comes to creative works. Like yeah, artists are stifled by the suits, but other times projects can go on aimlessly and reshuffle to everyone's detriment. It's insane that he analyzed this in the one way he could make sure to get offended
@@ectofriend and Lynch literally acts on his ideas. He's a fucking director and he gets his shit made. Whereas Zanzo literally pumps his ideas out and forces others to actually make something out of them. It's making fun of idea guys, like people in a tech company that have no idea about the production side of things
@@willywitchdoctor Why are you getting mad at me? I agree with you and I was saying his interpretation was a reach, a silly one at that.
@@ectofriend oh no I was agreeing too, just adding on to your point 😅
I'm not sure where this is coming from considering it's got a LOT more depth than no more heroes 1/2 in terms of combat, and it's child like charm is just undeniably wonderful. Gonna have to classify this as a miss personally so far in this video (I'm 20 mins in). The style and fun factor are great and it doesn't need to have the depth of bloodborne to be just damn fun!
It's almost as if NMH1 has a deeply provoking and endearing narrative full of charming characters. Idunno, just a hunch.
@@Ghenry Sudacel cope
It honestly reminded me a lot of Veutiful Joe
@@Ghenry Guy is so Sudapilled that it's rotted his brain.
@@Ghenry so does this one imo!
Bro missed the entire point on why Zanzo is a bad guy in this game. He clearly doesn't care about his employees and prefers to torture them or make them work until exhaustion just because he wants to get his shallow ideas done
His workers are literal machines , do you consider your printers feelings everytime you use it?
@@DionPanday even if they are literal machines, the game treats them like people giving each type of robot a distinct personality. I'm not saying that they should be treated as equals as humans bc that's not the point of my comment, it's about how the game wants to make us feel about Zanzo and how much of a pos he is working with other people. And if you want to take it a bit further, Zanzo even disregards the comments of his upper ups about wasting the budget and being a bad employee
@@DionPandayprepare for the second renaissance.
My 2 complaints with this game with my current 24 hours in it is there not being a lock on. And when you can't skip the talking. The platforming could be better but it wasn't something that bothered me. And IDK could just be me but it seems you went a bit off the rails with this one. Like something about the game bothered you and made other things unpleasant for you. And to Chai being well him. He and the rest do grow and change as the game goes on. I don't want to run off the rails my self but it's like you were hoping for some grand multi layered genre merging master piece. For a game that's 30$.
Can't believe how angry you are
ok.
I wish NMH3 looks as polish as this game.
That game legit looks like shit in comparison no sugar coating it.
@@shawklan27 it doesn’t l, look at the animations in slow motion. This game is polished as fuck and well animated. You’re just hatin at this point Lmfaoo
This comment section is hilarious💀
It's very much a game backed by its style and charm, and that won't really vibe with some people. I really enjoyed it, even though I thought the gameplay itself was a little boring at times. A lot of impressive work has been put into making the whole world synced to the beat, and the visuals are a style that's very hard to get right, and I feel like they did that. Chai's a bit of a jerk, but I feel like a lot of his comments were things I wiuld have been saying, difference being I'm on a couch and he's fighting for his life out there ... except for when he too is on a couch.
I couldn't really agree with a lot of your points, but I understand why you feel the way you do. Hi-Fi Rush is far from my first character action game, it was just fun for me to go on a little romp, even if it wasn't necessarily complex.
Finally a comment from someone who isn't butthurt over an opinion.
@@sibel9272 It can be real easy to get defensive when something you like is challenged by someone who doesn't. I personally found his tone at times a little frustrating to listen to, which would cause me to get extra defensive, so I'm certainly not perfect.
Damn for speaking for 30 minutes I feel like practically no valid claims were made beside the platforming being rather meh. Everything else was just personal tangents and history and "me no like saturday morning cartoons so this is automatically bad" when completely being bs on stuff like combat being simple when you didn't even mention assists, parries, pretty much everything you unlock past just starting and Chai's personality which you had to use early game footage to make your case as he only really argues with Peppermint in the first two stages and is after that pretty much a nice guy with just some attitude. Really screams needing to be the one man out here.
Going on about his experience on DMC was a complete waste of time
I'm not sure why you didn't use later example of Chai being being a prick out of spoilers when you used footage of the werewolf boss fights and Korsica.
But Chai tones it down later and it's not like the game plays it like he's in the right.
I think at the end of the game he actually picks up and tries to learn guitar. He isn't a prick through the whole thing and when he is he's sorta meant to be annoying based on how the supporting characters react to him
@@ProShaymin I personally saw him go from annoying and self-absorbed to less annoying and self-absorbed but I never expected him to fully change. I think Peppermint is great for him though, they end up like the brother/sister they wish they had and I like that.
The werewolf fight is in the trailer.
The fact that you are even comparing HFR's aspects to other games shows Tango hit it out of the park with HFR.
Usually dev studios do not change the genre expertise they are good at. Tango doing a complete 180 and still having high polish and creative ideas is honestly brilliant.
Honestly sounded like you're more in the mood for a platformer, why would you want people to play pizza tower over this, two great games with different genres
underrated comment
His problem was the platforming in Hi-Fi was both bad and Frequent, in most hack n slash games, platforming is infrequent for that reasoon.
@@sibel9272 okay? Then the answer is to play a platformer instead of a hack n slash game???
@@hellkrai He didn't want to play a platformer. That was the point of criticizing how much platforming was in the game.
@@uriel7395 so he recommended a platformer?
certainly a take
This review honestly sounds like you dislike this game because it is built on a bunch of things you dislike rather than it being objectively bad.
But y'know that's fair, this is your review and your opinion on the game so idk
Personally I love this game, I can get down with a game that's a bit more casual and laid back, like the game itself wants you to just switch off your more critical thought processing and just enjoy it. Enjoy the hackneyed af story, the dumb as hell dialogue and the slowed down combat. Just pick up your Controller and smash out some rounds after a long day of work.
Hilarious you call him Peter Parker considering he's voiced by one.
Also that he's literally nothing like Peter Parker.
Thats like the only thing he has in common with Peter Parker
He's more Ben 10 than Peter Parker...I'm honestly wondering where he got Peter from
Do people not watch the whole video now? He mentioned this.
Can't say this is what I was expecting
Hehehe 😈
People are pointing out that Zanzo sounds like the perfectionist creator that sometimes harms other peoples for the sake of "creating art". That's kinda of a good discussion when you think about directors like Stanley Kubrick or Alfred Hitchcock...
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Goofy died for ours sins, goddamit Ghenry!
loved the video btw ;)
Wow I did not gel with this video. Highly disagree with everything in this.
You think the platforming is actually fun??
@@a_brodo3158 The platforming is sub par but not really as annoying as always for character action games.
@@marcusaaronliaogo9158 yeah but in those other games it’s not over half of the level’s runtime
@@a_brodo3158
I like how you hyperfixate on a single weakness? Anything to say on the combat? The music score? Any of its many strengths?
@@lastmanstanding7155 I think they're good? Like the video says they are as well?
I got the notif for this video and immediately went "oh no this vid's gonna be bad" and sure enough I was wrong
The videk was even worse than I thought. Jesus H. Christ man.
Unsubscribe, piss off. Stop watching my channel.
Eyyy you too my guy. I was told to unsubscribe as well haha
I understand that you’re a fan of character action games, and your critique is valid. However, you’re still wrong
Yeah, I figured as much.
@GhenryPerez
I know it's sad that Mikami and Nakamura left Tango Games, but I won't stop playing nor supporting the developers. Mikami retired for a specific reason: so the new generation can spread their wings and not be under his name/label. The man has done so much for gaming for over 20 years, I can blame him for retiring. I support and respect his decision. Nakamura, obviously has her own things going own, and wish her the best of luck. Whatever developer she is at now, I'll support her too. Do as you wish, but I will never abandon/lose interest in Tango, so long as they try and make the games they want to make.
BTW, I am big Evil Within 2 fans, but I do enjoy the first game to an extent. I still prefer EW2 though.
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I would have thought that to be more of a caricature of Kojima or Nomura, directors who end up going years over time and millions over budget, than of someone like David Lynch. Maybe that's because you and I have just consumed different media through our times and we just look at different things.
Man, I love alot of your videos but this is definitely a bad take
Aww sucks when you go outside of your echo chamber, huh? Just cuz someone has a different opinion on something you happen to like doesn’t mean their take is bad
@@UsoTeaMor do you defend this guy in every comment
@@jaystargamelover8785 ahahaha nah i just like talking to ppl
@@UsoTeaMor okay, let's reverse this. BECAUSE he is saying something non common, we are not allowed to dislike or criticize it? That seems wrong.
@@Whispersmith646 Of course you can criticize an opinion. But when it's a minority one, maybe hear the guy out.
A bit of correction on the Peter Parker part...I think Chai is modelled after Ben 10 actually (assuming you know that show). The art style harkens back to the cartoon-anime artstyle that Ben 10 popularized, Chai has the smug over confident attitude that OG Ben had, his dynamic with Peppermint is straight out of Ben and his cousin, Gwen's own. And the VA pick more than likely wasn't because he VA'd Peter Parker, but that he VA'd Ben at some point. Just wanted to point that out, especially cuz Peter and Chai...barely have any similarity...except brown hair I suppose(which Ben also has lol)
Huh... Interesting connection
I feel like these similarities are more of a coincidence than a deliberate inspiration but I can see where you're coming from
@@Vashkey oh I'm more than open to it being just a coincidence. I just brought it up cuz the comparison is more apt than...Peter Parker
Obligatory "We're back because Tango got revived by Krafton but I still hate this video cause Ghenry couldn't handle Peak-Fi Rush cause he's a Stoopid Sudahead" comment
Yeah. I knew it from your other videos and didn't mind it too much. But you just went full edgydoi "this is too childish! Why do you like it?!" Way too hard. This ain't it brother, you didn't understand half of why people liked the game. Also "no techno"??? A certain money wolf would like to talk with you.
Bruh he didnt even hate Hi Fi rush, did you finish the video?
@@sibel9272 I didn't say he hated it tho.
>Says there's no techno
>Goes out of his way to mention "Invaders Must Die" is in the sound track, THE most used and cliched techno song
29:42 sure do!
Yes he does.
Why are you getting so mad m8. I'm assuming the time between battles is so the player can get more practice on rhythm since it can be difficult to keep up.
The baby's first action game bit is also a massive downplay of the games gimmick, since it's adding and expanding on something action games have always had, not just teaching players how to play action games.
I see the Peter Parker comparison, but it's obviously not the same as, as the only similarities are quips, the basic brown haired white teen look, and the voice. Otherwise, Peter and Chai go through different arcs and are different people.
The scene you picked of Chai being annoying was very cherry picked, and out of context. He is annoying(which enjoy), but the scene you picked was early, when Chai didn't trust Peppermint and Peppermint was annoying with Chai. The two had very good reason to be snarky at each other.
As for difficulty...I think you're just really good at action games m8. I and many others have actually had difficulty at points in the game. It's not bone crushing on hard, but it is challenging at several points .
Meanwhile it sounds like you just weren't interested in the game from the get go. So naturally you didn't really give it a chance. Word of advice, in those situations, just don't play it. Nobody wants a poor review, and going into something with apathy at best, annoyance at worst, is just going to come out with a bad product.
Also, no need to tell me to unsub or that it's not your problem (unprofessional btw). I unsubscribed awhile ago
I feel like the xenogears reference is a bit weird for you to call out as it was clearly using it as more than just a point and recognise the thing, they’re poking fun at the fact that they themselves had to cut part of their game which is why they used that specific scene
What are your thoughts (if you have any) on No Straight Roads? Since watching your review for HI-Fi Rush, it feels like a weird inverse of what it is. Where in Rush the gameplay is solid enough and goes with the beat, in NSR it felt like I had to fight with the games difficulty since playing on easy required me to delay my inputs to parry similar to the people mentioned playing Rush.
Ghenry, I love ya man but yeah I don’t agree with this take
Too bad
Not my problem
He basically told me to unsubscribe because he didn’t like my criticism of him in my comment
i disagree with alot of your points, ESPECIALLY your comment on "saturday morning" cartoons, but a decent video otherwise
This review reminds me a lot of nitrorad's review of deltarune. They're both misses because of the preconceived notions that went into the game before they pressed the start button. They never had a chance from the start and there was no assessment of their opinions. I think they should have approached it by pointing out the flaws with less snark. I mean trying to be Peter Parker isn't really a bad thing(I don't think it's correct observation) but also pointing that out makes the other stuff contradictory. Going for Peter Parker would mean they want him likeable but your assessment of him being a asshole goes against that. Chai is supposed to be annoying. It's like Scott Pilgrim. Scott is a dick but like chai he doesn't know it. Chai is high on his own supply. He's living in his own fantasy but by the end he is supposed to grow and be humbled. Zanzo problem isnt that he's being stifled. His problem is he's a perfectionist that doesn't care about his workers. He can't get anything out cause he's too anal to get anything go. It's the every painting is unfinished idea but the painter refuses to stop. It's dr dre and detox.
You aren't wrong but I think the issue with NitroRad review of deltarune is the fact that he was treating it similar to how he treated something like Mario or any other triple AAA game. In the sense that, rather than acknowledging that it's a independent game being made by a small group, he treated it more harshly since the first game was such a big hit. AFAIK he regrets that video a bit, too.
Chai is nothing at all like Peter Parker, like I disagree with most of the review but this point above all else is the most wrong
You're right, he's worse
@@Ghenry probably because he is more like scott pilgrim or ben 10 than peter parker.
@@Ghenry 🙄
@@Ghenry
If you're going to act like this, then what's the point of even replying to comments?
man, rythm heaven ost fits so well with these kinda reviews
I do like a different harder take on a game I enjoy. That said I do disagree on quite a few takes, and I think that's fine as we're different people.
The combat is more basic than DMC but I wouldn't simply leave it at that. There's plenty to chew on like Magnet resets, Jam Overkilling & Special Gauge management, Parry Countering to keep high uptime of your teammates during fights and all the while going hard while the music picks up. I never felt as if the game as too slow during combat, because of what the game is asking of you to do isn't to go nuts at a high BPM. Some songs will be slower and you have to think of your combo routes to reflect the speed; and some will ask you to go fast and slam fools into the dirt. I took it as a duet, not a blood bath. Though I do wish the combat was better balanced with the platforming though, I agree with you on that one.
I do think Chai genuinely changes but he doesn't go from bad to good; more just bad to less bad. He just found a group of friends that he seems to gel with, and that's enough for him. Unironically I find more people have issues over Peppermint because Sidecut Bad and she shouldn't get angry at said snarky smartass when he's genuinely a goof. Chai's not a ground-breaking character; he's just a failguy who got lucky enough to actually do something and it's gone to his head. He gets more level-headed but the fact that Chai is a failguy will probably stay as it is. I think it's personal taste.
Reference wise it wasn't really eliciting bold meaning. They're just fun stabs at stupid moments either Dev wise or culture wise. Hell the Xenogears reference is because once you save Korsica that entire sequence and the cutscene before the cannon was cut content of a level and a boss they still had the assets for. It's a reference not because it's only Xenogears, but because Xenogears had a horrid dev cycle on that Disk 2 transfer. As much as I love Venture Brothers though, comparing this to that series that has had over a decade to perfect its comedy and vision is rather harsh.
While I don't agree with a chunk of your takes, I understand why you felt that way for the most part. I respect it.
"Most boring basic platforming outside of a Wayforward game"
To be fair, Uncharted and Assassin's Creed have even more basic platforming than something like Shantae does. The platforming in this game does look pretty basic with that said but I doubt it's as egregious as something like Uncharted 4 is.
Also, yeah you could argue a lot of kid's cartoons at the time weren't very good but the thing is 90% of all media is average to begin with more so than bad. All though the writing in this game seems to be weak either way.
You could almost every video game that involves active movement requires some degree rythmn, platformers, shooters, hack n slash and even stealth games to some degree.
Funny, I like TEW2 but No More Heroes 3's writing I found to be obnoxious. Probably because Travis kept mentioning a foreign film director I had no clue about and Suda kept mentioning Mike in almost every 5 cutscenes.
I don't think this game was for you
Same reason I didn't pick it up myself. It felt like it didn't dive deep into either the rhythm or hac n slash genre for me to get into it
With the unceremoniously and utterly scummy closure of Tango gameworks. I wanna get this off my chest. Out of all your video on various Games, absolutely dislike this particular video and disagree with a lot of your opinions in it, especially your thoughts on Zanzo and Chai. Which is really saying something as I REALLY Love Your other video, particularly the ones on Henry Cooldown and The Silver Case. Although it’s obviously your opinions and views on the game, and I’m not gonna judge you for that. But it’s clear as crystal that this game just wasn’t made someone like you. I may sound like a bit of an asshole but I just being blunt and honest here.
For what it's worth, I had high hopes for a sequel. I'm bummed about the shutdown too.
The main character is Peter Parker yeah
Here first before the fallout lol
calm before the storm
Yeah, you are being cynical. The goofy Saturday morning cartoon vibes are welcome when games are usually morally grey, philosophical, and take themselves way too seriously. Outside of maybe Psyconaughts 2 and Kid Icarus: Uprising, I can't think of too many games with that vibe.
Also the references have points. The twin peaks one was used as a segue to the end of a dream sequence, with 808 doing the walk working as the reveal. The Xenogears reference is a self deprecating joke because both sequences were used to convey content that wasn't able to make it into the final cut ( The lead up to the cannon= most of the latter half of Xenogears)
Basically you didn't like it, then it's your problem, not mine.
My experience was that i had a lot of fun.
Also, i suck at this game, can't keep the rhythm most of the time, it got easier the more i played.
Weird comment. Your opinion isn’t superior to his just cuz you disagree with it
I feel it's more about the fact that this game was not in Perez's interest. Just wasn't the game for him. That does not mean the game is objectively bad and that other people are unable to enjoy it because of that.
@@UsoTeaMor Sounds like you got harmed by my confindence in my opinion. if that's not the "superior opinion" you want to hear, guess what ?
that is also your problem, buddy, not mine.
@@DrRESHES 🤣🤣🤣🤣 okay that was funny. You’re good, dw
@@UsoTeaMor This outcome is actually very nice it turned out the way it did.
Blatant ragebait trash. To anyone unfortunate enough to click on this video, PlayStation, pc or otherwise, know that this game has dropped on PlayStation.
I hope you guys can ignore this sad excuse for a reviewers opinion that’s blatantly trying to piss us off and play the game that i fell in love with the moment I started playing.
See you all on the stage, rockstars.
I didn't know expressing an opinion was ragebait, but go on
17:30 You don't like Shantae or why do you say so?
Boring games
There’s a reason people only draw/jack off to the characters and never talk about the gameplay
@@Ghenry I think theres a reason why people don’t like you.
I know the reasons.
Glad I clicked this video , I had no idea this was from tango !
Bruh, zanzo is incompetent and cant learn from mistakes. I dont think he has passion and more like delusions.
22:58 You mean specifically that era in the 00s where every western action cartoon was trying to mimic the anime artstyle? Yeah checks out
Avatar
The Batman
Witch
Winx
Totally spies
Martin mysteries
Teen Titans
Monkey hyper force go
Wakfu…
Oh god we’ve gone from 80s cartoon nostalgia to an entire game that’s basically 00s cartoon nostalgia and 00s rock nostalgia too I don’t know how I should feel on this
While you make good points I have to agree to disagree because the game does appeal to my sense of humor which isn’t for everyone.
kingdom hearts is unfortunately not babies first action game that would be any of the devil may crys that force you to play normal mode first (almost all of them) or like mgr which has a tiny skill ceiling
Yes, of course Kingdom Hearts, the game with so easy bosses like Dragon Malificient, Dark Riku, Sephiroth, the Ice Titan and the Enigmatic Man.
And that's just the first one. You bring into account the other 2 main games with their hard AF critical modes and bosses like Lingering Will and Yozora, and calling Kingdom Hearts a "baby first action game" doesn't just become disengenious, it's just a straight up lie.
@@peterelpanda2 kh2fm has an incredibly deptfhul skill floor and ceiling which a lot of people are quick to write off because its "a baby game"
if a game came out today that features roughly the same combat as 2fm itd be heralded as re-birthing the action genre honestly
@@ya-ba-daba-dooya-ba-daba-d8067 I'm sorry if I can boot up your game and get away with mashing X to win for 3 of the 4 available difficulties (and even Critical can be mashed through if you take advantage of the rpg part to grind or at least get dodge roll once you get access to limit form) I classify that as babies first action game right next to Musou's. I love 2fm but I'm not gonna cap to stroke it's depth that it doesn't even bother to explain in even the manual. Devil May Cry may force you down normal but that's because nearly EVERY mechanic (outside jump cancel in the 1st 3 games as that was lightly hinted at in the manual) is laid out to you in the skill list or in the tutorial and the game is noticeably harder when you choose to ignore them as you need it to kill faster and get better style points to get more skills it's a perfectly functional loop, 2FM shoves it's loop into the trash until the super bosses appear and those can be cheesed with the most basic of RPG prep.
Bruh, I don't like Kingdom Hearts, and even I know these things.
He fluncked by using it as an example HARD.
is this... is this really a 30 minute long video of you, a guy who spent hours picking apart and analyzing no more heroes, explaining how you didnt get probably some of the easiest to understand ideas ever?
I explained with clarity that I understood the story, and do not like it. Try paying better attention.
Recent Cuphead video made me suspect it, but this video definitely makes me believe it.
Ghenry has no respect for animation.
Bruh probably supports ai making animation. And worse 60fps interpolation.
You don't know me. You're an idiot, stop watching my channel.
@@marcusaaronliaogo9158 the hell are you two talking about he doesn't
How many brain cells do you have? Cause judging by this comment it can't be bigger than 10.
You say thin-skinned, I say mocking idiots who refuse to actually listen to what I have to say.
Go the way of Metokur plz.
Welcome back!
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Yeah, you were pretty cynical with this one
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I loved the game but I appriciate you being as brutally honest as possible about why it didn't work for you
I don't think Zanzo is a parody of anybody, he just comes off as another cartoon stereotype, and obviously the character goes over the top. I am not saying that creative people don't require extra money, but in some cases big ambitions+infinite cash = a worse product, see bioshock infinite
This guy just mad the game wasn’t Dead Rising 😂
Fair.
Neither have good platforming. Childish argument
Took an L on this one
Oh boy
As someone who adores this game, you make some pretty good points with your more critical takes on the game. Especially on the platforming sequences.
also, I think both this and Pizza Tower are such fucking good games
I appreciate you hearing me out. I know I come off as a dick in the video, but there's plenty to enjoy from it! I think it's good that it did well too, as there's tons of potential for a sequel
@@Ghenry Makes me wonder if the sequel could give us even more liscenced music, like a segment that features music from fucking Tenacious D or Meatloaf.
That'd be amazing,
@@Ghenry Also, your other videos are great. Keep up the good work.
I doubt they would include tenacious d cause of the whole T rating
@@sibel9272 Fair enough
Imagine if they did this for South Park: Bigger Longer & Uncut
The only criticism I have of this video is that you talk about round platforming heroes and don't mention Kirby.
Yes, I paused the video
Im not sure you ever claimed to be unbiased, but god dayum the comments making this look like a not even finished rough draft.
Rant content does not reach your target audience.
I don't target any audience, I make whatever the heck I want.
I agree with the review on a lot of points but the story review segment felt a little more aggressive and nitpicky than was warranted. I’m not into the Saturday morning cartoon aesthetic either but I think it’s unfair to be this hard on a very obviously nostalgic and loving aesthetic a lot of people are into. It would be like if somebody spent half of a review of a Suda51 game talking about how the aesthetic is tryhard and pretentious.
That being said I do relate with you on most of the review, found the game really boring and childish Saturday morning cartoon stuff does make me irrationally angry, nice to see a different perspective.
I think this game is really good (like the most strong 8 I've played in a while) though that's partially due to the rhythm based aspects in gameplay, very well executed and vibrant cel-shaded art direction/amazing animation, general polish and me actually giving a damn about the characters/story to a degree.
I have no idea where the GOTY talk is coming from for it *especially* so early on in the year, it's guaranteed to be nominated in multiple categories with one win for sure at least.
Great video! I love it!
Same. So good
Do you dislike this game because it reminds you of No More Heroes but it's too cheery and not cynical and edgy enough for you ?
No, its because of the over abundance of tedious platforming. Did you even watch the video?
@@sibel9272 sure, he did say that.
doesn't mean i'll buy that script, face value, while ignoring the big elephant in the room.
hint hint hint hint hint hint hint.
also what character action game doesn't have platformers, those games are made with a jump button in mind for a reason and using it for platforms are just common sense. even NMH3 has it for a different minigame.
It just seems to me, like a very shaky foundation to base a criticism on, unless you just not self aware of your biases yourself, i volunteered to help with that so we wouldn't need to hear that bullshit.
Yes most of those types of games have platforming, the difference is it’s often uncommon and doesn’t take up too much time. Hell the NMH3 mini game can be skipped entirely. The issue with Hifi is that it’s too common and gets in the way.
@@sibel9272 I guess that's the end of your argument.
I exemplify with full clarity that the main character is overtly cynical to the point where I find him annoying.
You're an idiot, stay away from my channel.
Speaking of the licenced songs, I remember first hearing 1,000,000 from NIN back in Midnight Club LA, so song's not that niche.
Nothing by NIN could ever be considered "niche."
@@WordsofIvory true
More niche than Perfect Drug
I see a lot of people of describe hifi as a throw back to the 00s but that doesn’t mean they should have brought back the crappy parts of the 00s like having forced platforming in actions games. Seriously go back and play any budget or janky hack n slash and they are all like this Nanobreaker is a great example with its terrible jumping, and while sure HiFi isn’t bad like nanobreaker it’s still something we’ve known sucks by now. legit one of the better examples is actually the dmc reboot of all things
Honestly when it comes to hack n slash games, platforming is usually at it's best tolerable, and at it's worst frustrating.
As ok as this game is, I wish No Straight Roads was more like it on the rhythm side.
I hope it hurts
Devil may rush
Kingdoms hearts ain't that easy....
@@Sonicboy71 it is. The 1% of the games’ where you fight tough secret bosses don’t make up the overall games’ difficulty
@@UsoTeaMor Nuh uh
@@Sonicboy71 cope
@@UsoTeaMor all I'm saying is play kh3 on crit mode
I love this game but I will admit, the campaign's replay value goes down because of the extensive walking/platforming. Sure I could focus on the Rhythm Tower, but I have to replay the main game's levels to earn more currency.
As for the references, they're definitely surface-level and don't add to the story. But I find them harmless, they're not jarring to see. At least for those who don't recognize them. I certainly missed a few but didn't bat an eye.
Wow, this is a very L take ngl.
so is your comment
Complains about how whiny chai is and then proceeds to whine about references (and except the one he likes lmao) game’s definitely not perfect but not every game is made for you. If your wanting a more serious story theres a lot more out there, and if you want better character games theres a lot out there. Its a fun return to ps2 style games, kinda all it needed to be. The numbers show.
Equating sales numbers to quality lol
@@UsoTeaMor not gunna pretend like its even close to the best game out there. but if it was steaming load why would so many people be getting it
@@dezer4209because it’s on gamepass lol
zanzo is inspired by docsquiddy trust me
7:20 Wait a second... is that the Dreamcast logo?
No
It’s crazy that most of the people in this comment section don’t actually have a counterpoint to you saying that the platforming is boring timewasting (because it’s true)
CZcams commenters do be like that.
Not one of my favorite reviews of yours, especially since I personally loved HFR a ton, but I saw what you meant in some points of criticism. It was still a nice and fun watch before bed.
Also I gotta agree with plenty of the comments regarding Zanzo, I think you were overthinking on who he was based on instead of looking at the type of directors and creators that he is based on, those being creative types in the tech and gaming industry who only care about overly ambitious, unrealistic ideas that want them done no matter what while at the same time having no regard for anyone but themselves and their own vision.
Tbh, I’m surprised you didn’t talk about having issues with the goofy Jojo references that he kept doing lol
I don't watch nor read Jojo. The most I'm aware of is the onomatopoeia they use a lot.
@@Ghenry Ah alright, that is a nice surprise to hear! Anytime I heard anyone bring up Zanzo, they'd immediately bring up those references.
your segment on hanzo really rubs me the wrong way, its easy to feel that way when you're just the one sitting on your ass watching the screen instead of the one getting paid shit for getting your hands dirty for someone else's vision, yelling and blaming the workers for the limits and restraints of fucking reality, they're not criticizing people with vision they're criticizing man children why couldn't you see that, no respect for the everyday worker
I feel that same as you buddy!
KH is a baby game unless you play in critical mode
Bad take 1 million.
I want to see Travis Touchdown make an appearance in this universe just so he can dismember Chai while Chai screams.
Instead, you got a Mod where Chai cosplays as Travis. Don’t believe me? Look it up!
Loved it for its style and personality alone. I don't really care if the gameplay's basic.
Then it’s not a good game lmao
@@UsoTeaMor Basic gameplay does not equate to bad gameplay. That's like saying Tetris is bad because it's basic.
@@Vashkey that's not what I said. Dude's praising the art direction and writing of the game and tossing aside the gameplay. So he clearly enjoys the parts of the game that don't have to do with actually playing it more. But go off, weirdo
@@VashkeyI have no problems with simple/basic gameplay, games like Ghostrunner, Mario, and Pac Man can be fun.
The problem is, people always prioritize Visual over Gameplay first and we get more developers who keep forgetting they're making a game not a movie.
In this case, Bioshock is lauded as a masterpiece right? 9/10 most people tell you that the story and atmosphere is unmatched, then you played SS2 which is far more complex, in-depth, and much more FUN than Bioshock, yet SS2 gets forgotten because it's not as simple as Bioshock.
Before I watch, I just want to say what I really appreciate about this game is the character. Even if it's not perfect, it's something a bit outside the norm. Not completely unique, but something different. That being said, I did find it quite slow and pretty boring. Did not get very far before I stopped playing. The gameplay felt like something from the early 2010s.
Kinda fell off with this one ngl
Just the game’s company
You really nailed it with this one! 10/10! I was waiting for George Costanza to show up in the game given that it was Vandalay Industries.
Nah, I thought the review is just garbo nonsense with misunderstandings of a lot of the things in the game.
This video interesting...
This comment section is rough, loved the video bossman