I like your honesty, i was lucky enough to purchase my portals the day they came out with the gen 2, i had no idea i was getting a newer version but from what i can tell they upgraded everything youve called them out on. I dont ride no where near as hard as most guys but as soon as i start to see or hear anything snap ill let you know. Running 29" out law 2s on 14" 4 seater rzr 900. Stock axles with highlifter arched arms.
+chase crowder you'll still have issues with the gaskets getting cut and leaking but yeah they know their gen ones had a ton of issues... Hence the Gen 2 lol wish they would honor their warranty
Mud Puppy what brand and gasket thickness are u replacing it with. We have tons of rolls of different sizes at work. Guess i could cut my self a few feet. Looks like .025 or .030
Good feedback. I want to do something stupid and daily drive portals on the street. I would expect a company to honor the warranty and fix problems so what I'm about to say shouldn't be something you're interested in, but I'm really curious how many of your problems might be solved by venting the portals. It wouldn't be ideal but you could plumb them into the chassis. Again, not really something that anyone should really consider, just a curious Idea.
I think venting would help a lot. But they specifically say venting will avoid the warranty. They've improved a lot of these issues on the generation 3 but the seals are steel garbage
@@MudPuppyOffroad yeah, it would be interesting to play with gaskets, I laser cut gaskets myself making a few discontinued OE replacements. The lifetime warranty is so constraining, it would be a shame to void it.
Maybe to fix this issue would be to have harden alignment pins to mate up the two bodies and also have the matting surfaces machined o-ring grove and use o-ring gasket to seal. The regular gasket shouldn't cut or push out unless your having a movement issue. Just seems to me if they are selling billet units that they could do easy machine work to fix the leaking issues.
Bingo 2 alignment pins with oring gaskets would fix all the issues pressure still may blow out oil seals need some type of check valve vent to let pressure out and no water in
Honest review is appreciated about the portals. I was thinking about purchasing about the portals but if they won’t stand behind there product no sense spending the money ! They are not a cheap purchase either ! That’s why people buy them is to put them through the paces not to be trailer queens ! Come on super atv stand behind products !!!!!!!
+Bryce Reynolds for a while there they were awesome they were even watching my videos and sending me Parts before I asked for them but lately they have been ignoring me very frustrating
I had the 4 inch and had castle nuts coming off, got tired of it and got the 6 inch and have the same thing happening with my castle nuts coming off, I’ve used blue and red loctite and I can’t even ride with/o worryingabout all 4 tires, finally given up on them. Good video
my portal gaskets leaked on every single ride. sold them after the fourth ride and rebuild. i even had half the gasket hang out of the side of the portal after a two hour ride. was cut in half. i thought about drilling a vent hose spot but it would void the warranty so i didn't. wish i never had them. didnt have them long enough to have the nut issue
this is why i love my 03 350 honda. and i know why you love your hondas haha sorry dude but you helping to pay and rnd this is crazy. they should fully sponsor you and make you a happy customer.
Can you vent the portal with a strong braided hose n a remote bellow mounted some where safe under the hood, or wherever? It might relive the pressure enough to allow the grease in the bolt thread to seal enough to not leak, or let water in.
10/31/20 so got a question. I have Gen 1 on my General. The driver front comes loose every ride. Did the hitch pin help with keeping it tight? Ive used stainless bolts they worked for awhile but they finally broke. Thanks for any input. Im headed out to re tighten the driver front now...smh
What really helped fix it was not riding it as much LOL I eventually tack welded the nut on. The hitch pin held up fine but eventually got enough play to let the splines wear
@@MudPuppyOffroad this review just stopped me from getn some for $500,included in a sxs sale if i wanted'em....and I DO lol...but daYUM smh,i dont wanna be on the trailer,i wanna be on the TRAIL.Think i can keep a rebuild kit handy? 😂 maybe? 😂
I have the sxsgear portals, and have the same issues with my hub castle nuts. I used a pinion nut from an axle I have rebuilt a few years ago and it seems to hold better, shaved it enough to fit some 9 wire in the hole for the cotter pin. Im gonna get some more and see how they hold up. I believe they are 3/4-16 castle nuts, but they wobble on the shaft threads already. Get some 3/4-16 flanged pinion nuts
Permatex makes a product that is a sealant but it works like lock tight.cant remember the number.but relies on the machined surfaces and no gasket to crush or cut.also there is a green lock tight by Permatex stud and bearing retainer it’s like wield.but releases with heat just ideas friend.
I've seen people vent them that way it will help with the blowing gaskets and stuff. but yea when you were mentioning all the complaints at the same time I was thinking damn super atv upgraded all that on the gen2s!! You tell nothing but the truth tho. They need to just send you a set of of their new portals so you can test them. and the one dislike is probably them haha
Your hard on it , is an understatement, but for 3000 it should have been addressed, keep up the reviews let us know if they super atv holds up to there warranty
so I have always wondered if I got a set of these for my 850 polaris what size tire would it take to offset the 30% gear reduction and not lose a ton of top speed??
@@MudPuppyOffroad several videos I have seen on assembly of the parts they were serous about putting them on the right way or they would not work write.May cause the brakes to bind that this hole time they may have sent you the wrong stuff...
They pretty much bent over backwards for you repeatedly. At some point any company is going to stop sending you parts man. Prolly should have gotten a higher end brand for what you put these through every ride
+austinr09 they advertise it them as "built for battle" with a life time warranty... This is BS. They never bent over backwards they finally correct in the fact that they sent me the wrong caliper brackets originally gave you the wrong torque specs and the wrong nuts for the output shafts everything was their fault they did do something to correct some of the issues that is not the definition of bending over backwards.
What a joke I watch the video of them talking about their new portals and then I seen yours play talk about how good the old ones still are what a joke for that kind of price that would make me pissed off
Looking for ... I found your video friend, You left me very worried because I see a lot of honesty in your comments, I say this because in this coming week I want to buy a 2019 Polaris RZR XP 4 Turbo ... and I want to install the elevation kit and the portals of 8 "but m, and I flood an ocean of doubts your video, any recommendation will thank you and .... Thank you for sharing so valuable information .... Thank you very much
Outboard motor lower units run in water... Constantly cooled... And they are sealed way better. And they generally don't have to handle mud in the seals
when you put the old or even the new portals together put silicone on both mating surfaces, put silicone in and around the mating surfaces of all the bolts, and on the axle nuts use red lock tight, these are all very old school ways of doing things, and it works, i used to subscribe to your channel but you are a very disrespectful and abrasive person so i see why SuperATV got tired of conversing with you
Did superAtv ever step up and make this right? I am interested in the gen 2 but if they are leaving you out to dry, they aren't going to earn any of my business.
mud puppy You already said that they have responded to your emails and have sent replacement parts including the brake brackets and the output shaft. It seems like they have been trying to work with you on it.
I have already decided that I would not purchase the gen 2 because of how they have treated you. In fact I will make an effort to never purchase from super atv because of how they have treated you.
I got a great oil for you that will solve the leaking, oxidation and foaming, metal to metal contact. Contact Certified Labs for youe gear oil. I promise you it will eliminate your issues.
I had a couple of thoughts as I watched your video. One is regarding the nuts backing off. A Nord-lock might be a solution. Here’s a video that explains how they work. czcams.com/video/IKwWu2w1gGk/video.html I use one to keep the retaining nut from backing off the fan on my hovercraft. My 2nd thought was something to seal the bolt pathway to keep water from entering. Sikaflex 252 might be something to try. Both Nord-locks and Sikaflex 252 are Amazon items.
Sounds like a big waste of money and time and a royal pain in the ass.
just ordered 6'' portals for my ranger we will see how they hold up really like the info on the video nice to hear honesty not paid actors
Those are supposed to be better about cutting gaskets but worse on ball joints lol
nice lol I hope there not to bad
I like your honesty, i was lucky enough to purchase my portals the day they came out with the gen 2, i had no idea i was getting a newer version but from what i can tell they upgraded everything youve called them out on. I dont ride no where near as hard as most guys but as soon as i start to see or hear anything snap ill let you know. Running 29" out law 2s on 14" 4 seater rzr 900. Stock axles with highlifter arched arms.
+chase crowder you'll still have issues with the gaskets getting cut and leaking but yeah they know their gen ones had a ton of issues... Hence the Gen 2 lol wish they would honor their warranty
Mud Puppy what brand and gasket thickness are u replacing it with. We have tons of rolls of different sizes at work. Guess i could cut my self a few feet. Looks like .025 or .030
Good feedback.
I want to do something stupid and daily drive portals on the street.
I would expect a company to honor the warranty and fix problems so what I'm about to say shouldn't be something you're interested in, but I'm really curious how many of your problems might be solved by venting the portals. It wouldn't be ideal but you could plumb them into the chassis. Again, not really something that anyone should really consider, just a curious Idea.
I think venting would help a lot. But they specifically say venting will avoid the warranty. They've improved a lot of these issues on the generation 3 but the seals are steel garbage
@@MudPuppyOffroad yeah, it would be interesting to play with gaskets, I laser cut gaskets myself making a few discontinued OE replacements.
The lifetime warranty is so constraining, it would be a shame to void it.
Maybe to fix this issue would be to have harden alignment pins to mate up the two bodies and also have the matting surfaces machined o-ring grove and use o-ring gasket to seal. The regular gasket shouldn't cut or push out unless your having a movement issue. Just seems to me if they are selling billet units that they could do easy machine work to fix the leaking issues.
Bingo 2 alignment pins with oring gaskets would fix all the issues pressure still may blow out oil seals need some type of check valve vent to let pressure out and no water in
Honest review is appreciated about the portals. I was thinking about purchasing about the portals but if they won’t stand behind there product no sense spending the money ! They are not a cheap purchase either ! That’s why people buy them is to put them through the paces not to be trailer queens ! Come on super atv stand behind products !!!!!!!
+Bryce Reynolds for a while there they were awesome they were even watching my videos and sending me Parts before I asked for them but lately they have been ignoring me very frustrating
I had the 4 inch and had castle nuts coming off, got tired of it and got the 6 inch and have the same thing happening with my castle nuts coming off, I’ve used blue and red loctite and I can’t even ride with/o worryingabout all 4 tires, finally given up on them. Good video
my portal gaskets leaked on every single ride. sold them after the fourth ride and rebuild. i even had half the gasket hang out of the side of the portal after a two hour ride. was cut in half. i thought about drilling a vent hose spot but it would void the warranty so i didn't. wish i never had them. didnt have them long enough to have the nut issue
this is why i love my 03 350 honda. and i know why you love your hondas haha sorry dude but you helping to pay and rnd this is crazy. they should fully sponsor you and make you a happy customer.
Can you vent the portal with a strong braided hose n a remote bellow mounted some where safe under the hood, or wherever?
It might relive the pressure enough to allow the grease in the bolt thread to seal enough to not leak, or let water in.
+the Eiger Advocate I can but they said it would void the warranty
Mud Puppy
Who said they need to know loll
the Eiger Advocate mine work fine but I got the gen 2s
Use the fill hole with a barb fitting and vent line
10/31/20 so got a question. I have Gen 1 on my General. The driver front comes loose every ride. Did the hitch pin help with keeping it tight? Ive used stainless bolts they worked for awhile but they finally broke. Thanks for any input. Im headed out to re tighten the driver front now...smh
What really helped fix it was not riding it as much LOL I eventually tack welded the nut on. The hitch pin held up fine but eventually got enough play to let the splines wear
Thank you...im going to tack mine for now
@@MudPuppyOffroad this review just stopped me from getn some for $500,included in a sxs sale if i wanted'em....and I DO lol...but daYUM smh,i dont wanna be on the trailer,i wanna be on the TRAIL.Think i can keep a rebuild kit handy? 😂 maybe? 😂
I have the sxsgear portals, and have the same issues with my hub castle nuts. I used a pinion nut from an axle I have rebuilt a few years ago and it seems to hold better, shaved it enough to fit some 9 wire in the hole for the cotter pin. Im gonna get some more and see how they hold up. I believe they are 3/4-16 castle nuts, but they wobble on the shaft threads already. Get some 3/4-16 flanged pinion nuts
All you have to do is run a vent off
the drain to release pressure I’ve done it same problem still leaks gear oil
Permatex makes a product that is a sealant but it works like lock tight.cant remember the number.but relies on the machined surfaces and no gasket to crush or cut.also there is a green lock tight by Permatex stud and bearing retainer it’s like wield.but releases with heat just ideas friend.
Use a copper gasket
Put Teflon tape and tons pipe dope on the bolts and holes might help seal it up better?
I've seen people vent them that way it will help with the blowing gaskets and stuff. but yea when you were mentioning all the complaints at the same time I was thinking damn super atv upgraded all that on the gen2s!! You tell nothing but the truth tho. They need to just send you a set of of their new portals so you can test them. and the one dislike is probably them haha
Go HighLifter
They don't have nearly enough options for me
To seal bolt holes use permatex non-hardening.
Seems like more cons than pros
Be honest, this video makes me nervous now. I mean, taking a chance on these isnt easy. 5k for these to take a chance on
The third gen ones are better they took all my advice and left me out to dry! Anyways adding this much unsprung weight to your machine is stupid
Puppy is the greatest ATV youtuber
out there
I just ordered 4” From Highlifter today. Hope they hold up.
Your hard on it , is an understatement, but for 3000 it should have been addressed, keep up the reviews let us know if they super atv holds up to there warranty
Brother in law been running 4" portals hard on his ranger 900 for over a year, no breaks no leaks. His are gen ll though
Gen II hasn't been out a year lol
@@MudPuppyOffroad GOTTEM
3:30 in and I already don't want portals anymore
😂
Put fucking lock tight red on those bolts
Now they have gen 3
What’s a good combination for Honda 300 will it turn 28” ol pretty well nothin like the stuff you ride in
I wonder if u use a thread sealant or Teflon tape on ur bolts to prevent anything from going out or comming In
Gen 3 are great
I've had two sets of those now they are better in some ways but still have a lot of metal in the oil and the seals don't last
so I have always wondered if I got a set of these for my 850 polaris what size tire would it take to offset the 30% gear reduction and not lose a ton of top speed??
mitch lence 32’s- 35’s I’d say buy a spring kit to have the ability to fine tune. The 6” portals have a 45% gear reduction.
Curious why you wouldn't have power steering?
I'm in the fence about it. For me I like to feel the road, PS steals that feeling imo
They have gotten so reliable that I now get our steering. I didn't trust the earlier electric power steering units
I don't love the feel but it is very helpful with large tires
Damn, that's too bad. I beat the piss out of mine and didnt have so many issues.
Thread tape on the bolts might stop the leaking
I wonder if you put the rotors on rotating in the write direction if things would work better..
Lol they are riveted on there no way to switch
@@MudPuppyOffroad several videos I have seen on assembly of the parts they were serous about putting them on the right way
or they would not work write.May cause the brakes to bind that this hole time they may have sent you the wrong stuff...
sorryabout spelling key board pos batterys go oing ahhhhhh po op....
They pretty much bent over backwards for you repeatedly. At some point any company is going to stop sending you parts man. Prolly should have gotten a higher end brand for what you put these through every ride
+austinr09 there is no higher end brand
... And these are all very common issues
+austinr09 they advertise it them as "built for battle" with a life time warranty... This is BS. They never bent over backwards they finally correct in the fact that they sent me the wrong caliper brackets originally gave you the wrong torque specs and the wrong nuts for the output shafts everything was their fault they did do something to correct some of the issues that is not the definition of bending over backwards.
What a joke I watch the video of them talking about their new portals and then I seen yours play talk about how good the old ones still are what a joke for that kind of price that would make me pissed off
Tell me about it man I'm furious I don't even use this bike anymore because it's so much work to keep the portals functioning
I’ll avoid their product.
Looking for ... I found your video friend, You left me very worried because I see a lot of honesty in your comments, I say this because in this coming week I want to buy a 2019 Polaris RZR XP 4 Turbo ... and I want to install the elevation kit and the portals of 8 "but m, and I flood an ocean of doubts your video, any recommendation will thank you and .... Thank you for sharing so valuable information .... Thank you very much
The 8” new portals released this year I think fixed the seal issue look up gen 3 portals and watch video
It needs no vent! Does a outboard motor gear case have a vent? The answer is no
Outboard motor lower units run in water... Constantly cooled... And they are sealed way better. And they generally don't have to handle mud in the seals
Why do you think every atv has vents of the diffs???
Dude your left rear rotor is spinning the wrong rotation bro
Did they revise the portals. I'm thinking in getting some for my teryx
If I was you I would get a refund
when you put the old or even the new portals together put silicone on both mating surfaces, put silicone in and around the mating surfaces of all the bolts, and on the axle nuts use red lock tight, these are all very old school ways of doing things, and it works, i used to subscribe to your channel but you are a very disrespectful and abrasive person so i see why SuperATV got tired of conversing with you
Oh I'm so hurt... You unsubscribed! What am I going to do! Shit. My life is over. God you Canadians crack me up.
Silicone on the bolt threads to stop oil from passing by?
Oh sorry, just realized this is an old vid. What ended up happening?
Made custom gaskets with a better material
What is the gasket material called i’ve been having the same issues with my portals
Gen 3 or what?
Did superAtv ever step up and make this right? I am interested in the gen 2 but if they are leaving you out to dry, they aren't going to earn any of my business.
They have never responded to my emails
@@MudPuppyOffroad what a shit company.
mud puppy You already said that they have responded to your emails and have sent replacement parts including the brake brackets and the output shaft. It seems like they have been trying to work with you on it.
I have already decided that I would not purchase the gen 2 because of how they have treated you. In fact I will make an effort to never purchase from super atv because of how they have treated you.
How are you liking that Daytona jack from HF, I've been thinking about getting one
+theglockholiday so far so good, lifts very high
Man there gonna leak in the top man
Why not drill it out and run a vent line
Are those the second Gen portals?
I'm just looking at the 6" Gen 3 portals. Are you aware if they have fixed their gasket issues?
Don't know about the 6" lever looked into them too hard on ball joints and bushings
Are the rotors on the back driver side on backwards?
They, permanently riveted on like that
Why was the 1988 1990 Honda 300 FourTrax so much faster than 1991 and 2000
+Lumber Express better cam bigger header
Vent the portal people have been doing then
yeah im very tempted except satv specifically told me not too lol
Why don't you want power steering?
Cause I'm a man. Ruins the feel adds weight Rob's power
@@MudPuppyOffroad I'm on 40s power steering is a must
🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
I got a great oil for you that will solve the leaking, oxidation and foaming, metal to metal contact. Contact Certified Labs for youe gear oil. I promise you it will eliminate your issues.
Lol wtf oh yeah they're going to regenerate my gaskets where the cases are rubbing together and cutting them
Why would u never add power steering to a bike ?
I'm not a little bitch
@@MudPuppyOffroad I’m subscribing bc of this comment lol
Beer drinkers need power steering for sure
Its now almost 10/2020, any update?
Sold the machine the portals were very annoying they are fixed a lot of the issues with the gen three portals though
@@MudPuppyOffroad Gotcha. Gotta love being someone's non-paid beta tester.
@@Drundel exactly
I had a couple of thoughts as I watched your video. One is regarding the nuts backing off. A Nord-lock might be a solution. Here’s a video that explains how they work. czcams.com/video/IKwWu2w1gGk/video.html I use one to keep the retaining nut from backing off the fan on my hovercraft. My 2nd thought was something to seal the bolt pathway to keep water from entering. Sikaflex 252 might be something to try. Both Nord-locks and Sikaflex 252 are Amazon items.
+Dale Walker very cool
+Dale Walker I actually tried putting an o-ring at the front and back of the boat hole that is it working though apparently
Cleaning where the bolt head and nut makes contact with the housing with acetone and giving the Sikaflex 252 time to dry would be important steps.