Johnny Joestar VS Gojo Satoru| In-Depth Analysis

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  • čas přidán 11. 07. 2024
  • In this CZcams video, we dive into a versus battle between two powerful characters: Gojo Satoru from Jujutsu Kaisen and Johnny Joestar from Jojo's Bizarre Adventure Part 7: Steel Ball Run. We discuss their unique abilities and analyze their strengths and weaknesses. Johnny possesses the incredible stand Tusk, which evolves through multiple acts, granting him various powers like shooting nail-bullets and spatial manipulation. On the other hand, Gojo is a sorcerer with immense strength, speed, and the ability to create an infinite space known as the "infinity." We explore who would come out on top in this clash and consider factors like speed and power. If you're a fan of Jojo or Jujutsu Kaisen, be sure to subscribe and join the Discord server to discuss more exciting topics.
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Komentáře • 451

  • @MRForca
    @MRForca  Před rokem +25

    Go watch my newest video. Jotaro vs giorno!!!!!

    • @kanenanbarriner885
      @kanenanbarriner885 Před 4 měsíci

      Johnny dies horribly

    • @nicolasleal5644
      @nicolasleal5644 Před 3 měsíci +2

      ​@@kanenanbarriner885gojo dies tragically.

    • @kanenanbarriner885
      @kanenanbarriner885 Před 3 měsíci

      @@nicolasleal5644 if Gojo just stands there and let's Johnny shoot him, then yeah he dies, but, if he moves around throwing hollow purples, attract, etc. Then Johnny loses. Gojo just has to make sure he destroys his horse and make sure that Johnny can't gather any horse power

    • @nicolasleal5644
      @nicolasleal5644 Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@kanenanbarriner885 Johnny doesn't need a horsez he can walk by the end of part 7 and summon tusk and use infinite rotation without the horse.

    • @nicolasleal5644
      @nicolasleal5644 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Also the infinite rotation infinitely tracks him and will infinitely pursue him even if Johnny dies and Johnny can hide in his infinite rotation that harms people that try to follow him. He can also just shoot from his hole while he is ln the infinite rotation transportation that he uses. Also even if he shoots hollow purple, it can't make any progress toward Johnny because he would fire infinite rotation at it and it would stop in place consuming the infinite matter made by the rotation. Gojos screwed bro, in sorry it just is. It's not like gojo can hurt Johnny without tusk automatically defending him and touching gojo in the process passing infinite rotation onto him making gojo lose. No melee he does will work and no ranged he does will work. Tusk moves on its own to protect the user so if he is stuck in his domain expansion tusk would deal with the threat without problem itself. Basically anything gojo does is completely foiled by the property labor infinite rotation.

  • @woahbuncherz
    @woahbuncherz Před 4 měsíci +219

    Gojo when tusk rips open his infinity and beats him to a bloody pulp:

    • @Zoozky
      @Zoozky Před 3 měsíci +3

      explain how tusk does that

    • @xenvosity
      @xenvosity Před 3 měsíci

      raw strength buddy. Just read the Johnny vs Valentine fight@@Zoozky

    • @PrimeEdits179
      @PrimeEdits179 Před 3 měsíci +41

      @@Zoozky infinite rotation

    • @kanenanbarriner885
      @kanenanbarriner885 Před 3 měsíci +39

      @@Zoozky if Johnny sits on his horse and shoots his nail bullets, then he generates a golden rectangle that gives him an infinite rotation with his nail bullets. We know this can bypass infinity because Valentine had a better barrier, and Tusk ripped it open and beat the shit out of Valentine

    • @nicolasleal5644
      @nicolasleal5644 Před 3 měsíci +45

      @@kanenanbarriner885 he doesn't even need the horse anymore, your low balling Johnny.

  • @Whooooisthis
    @Whooooisthis Před 3 měsíci +93

    You cant beat someone blessed by Jesus Christ himself..

  • @Shad3-
    @Shad3- Před rokem +300

    In the end Johnny would win. Tusk act 4 can overcome any sort of barrier and assuming infinity is just infinte 3D space between him and his opponents, Johnny would easily surpass this due to infinte energy.

    • @lazyvoid7107
      @lazyvoid7107 Před 8 měsíci +25

      Also if my theory is correct Tusk act 4 can break in Gojo bubble

    • @rihalleo9229
      @rihalleo9229 Před 5 měsíci +6

      Unfortunately, Gojo run faster than a horse!

    • @Dragon_named
      @Dragon_named Před 5 měsíci +24

      @@rihalleo9229have you seen how fast a flipping horse is

    • @rihalleo9229
      @rihalleo9229 Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@Dragon_named yes but phirst of all Johnny's horse would be slower than a regular horse since today's horses have benifited from centuries of selective breeding, and second, Gojo is really fast.

    • @X_2ksavage-sw3nq
      @X_2ksavage-sw3nq Před 5 měsíci +1

      Gojos infinity isn’t a barrier it’s space and time

  • @arkkon2740
    @arkkon2740 Před 7 měsíci +135

    No lie, I feel like you can argue that act 2 tusk can beat Gojo given that he already has access to a non-euclidean ability; basically it mathematically doesn't make sense. If an act 2 wormhole ever got to the infinity wall, it would either bypass it or just drill through and still make contact. Act 3 is an evolution of that since barebones physical contact is enough to deal damage and not just damage to the heart, not to mention that he has direct control of it now.
    I'd say act 4 isn't needed because Love Train and Infinity are fundamentally different. With valentine you have to go through a nigh infinite amount of space over a nigh infinite number of spacial barriers. With Gojo its one barrier over a finite difference, the only thing stopping people is space folding on itself, but act 2 and 3 seemingly negates the effects of space and distance.

    • @MRForca
      @MRForca  Před 7 měsíci +16

      I agree but there is still the speed difference

    • @people2chronically-online
      @people2chronically-online Před 4 měsíci +1

      Gojo faster than Johnnys horse tho

    • @IPYJ_GD
      @IPYJ_GD Před 4 měsíci +25

      @@people2chronically-online and johnny is faster than gojo. even if the horse dies, he can literally just spin it with a ball to access his power (literally how he got tusk act 4 in the first place). what is your point?

    • @sonnguyen7204
      @sonnguyen7204 Před 3 měsíci +6

      @@people2chronically-online isn't jhonny can hide in worm hole and be unharm and be undetected?

    • @people2chronically-online
      @people2chronically-online Před 3 měsíci

      @@sonnguyen7204 he’s also, slow

  • @mamabriel
    @mamabriel Před 5 měsíci +36

    Tusk ACT 4 overpowered Alternate Diego's Time Stop because the infinite spin controls gravity, so that it ignores any and all adversities, if Infinity tries to slow it down, Tusk will just go on, just like he kept going on even when time was stopped

  • @Sillygumbal123
    @Sillygumbal123 Před rokem +74

    Johnny only needs one hit to kill gojo, due to tusks infinite rotation, and it may outspeed gojo, with infinity being irrelevant because of how tusk works, so johnny would probably win, assuming he has his horse with him to activate act 4.

    • @ItsChevnotJeff
      @ItsChevnotJeff Před 2 měsíci +2

      In Part 8 we see Johnny managed to use Spin to get his legs back, and it's implied just running in a certain way is enough to trigger the Golden Spin

    • @luanlinhares1707
      @luanlinhares1707 Před 2 měsíci +4

      He doesnt need his horse to activate tusk act 4,he needed it to awaken it. In part 8 johnny is seen walking(by holding a steel ball and using the spin to walk) and using tusk normally,he even uses it to kill himself

    • @danielgeronimo5538
      @danielgeronimo5538 Před 2 měsíci +1

      People sleep a lot on Tusk Act 3. Which hides Johnny in a separate space from the main dimension. Meaning theoretically he can't be affected by anything happening from the outside. It's not as overpowered as say, Tusk Act 4 or Ballbreaker even, but its defensive capabilities is a massive plus against someone who can render a regular person unresponsive with their presence alone. Also it bypasses speed quite efficiently because Johnny can just Spot his way in and out of certain situations.

    • @Sillygumbal123
      @Sillygumbal123 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@danielgeronimo5538 Act 3 was absolutely goated and increases johnny's ability to manuever by a huge margin, im just not sure if it could bypass infinity. Act 3 100% helps out with the speed and defensive situation for sure though, seeing as he can't be hit by anything while inside the hole

    • @smtandearthboundsuck8400
      @smtandearthboundsuck8400 Před měsícem

      Unlimited void hits Johnny first 10/10 times.
      Get Tusk act 4 past Diego's fangirls first

  • @m3rcifall
    @m3rcifall Před 3 měsíci +18

    cripple with spinning balls, an awesome horse and a pink alien lookin ass spirit vs white guy with blue eyes and space around him that slows down objects that are meant to harm him who would win

    • @aarcadeee
      @aarcadeee Před 3 měsíci +4

      testicular torsion solos

    • @VurseFilm
      @VurseFilm Před 3 měsíci +3

      Wet bubble sailor solos

    • @eggroll3055
      @eggroll3055 Před 25 dny

      Silly Fingernails > Hollow Purple

  • @Domab.
    @Domab. Před rokem +41

    its a debate of unstoppable force meets immovable object when it comes to gojo's defences, but the thing is that gojo also has the attack potency to oneshot johnny without much trouble

    • @MRForca
      @MRForca  Před rokem +6

      In a sense yeah

    • @terrorsDomain
      @terrorsDomain Před 10 měsíci +9

      Same As Johhny With TA4 But Again He Needs To Get That First Edit: I Misread

    • @kermitcutely5488
      @kermitcutely5488 Před 3 měsíci

      Wouldn't happen Johnny would either 1 shot gojo with a nail or block with infinite force and transfer the infinite spin to gojo and 1 shot him again

    • @luanlinhares1707
      @luanlinhares1707 Před 2 měsíci +1

      The difference is that tusk act 4 attacks are targeted,so even if gojo runs,the attack ll still follow and hit him no matter what

  • @abounded_j5557
    @abounded_j5557 Před rokem +45

    all we gotta analyze is the bs bypass of ALL spinning things in ANY jojo part

  • @MarioCashy
    @MarioCashy Před rokem +28

    i would like an In-Depth analysis of d4c love train vs Wonder of u this is something i try to debate with friends but we always come back to the conclusion of one of us picking the other wins

    • @MRForca
      @MRForca  Před rokem +4

      If you subb ill start the script right now. I do have 2 videos being edited currently though so you're gonna have to wait a couple of days...

    • @MarioCashy
      @MarioCashy Před rokem +5

      @@MRForca i subbed before i commented lol

    • @MRForca
      @MRForca  Před rokem +4

      @@MarioCashy W mans

    • @georgegobin1839
      @georgegobin1839 Před rokem +4

      ​@@MRForca
      From A Power Scaleing Perspective Wonder Of U should win in my opinion!😅

    • @nicolasleal5644
      @nicolasleal5644 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@georgegobin1839 I don't know, as a stand its stats suck but it's ability carrys it. But love train diverts all bad things against the user going as far to split a portion of the sea for valentine. In a stand v stand valentine wins and any calamity will be diverted to someone else. Even if a calamity hit valentine, it would have to be a instant death which would be hard to achieve since its random and doesn't always one shot the pursuer. Basically valentine just walks toward him until he is inside his barrier and fucks him up. Wait valentine can travel throughout his barrier to so he doesn't even need to walk. If he makes two wonder if u's I wonder what will happen to them both.

  • @diotheworld3444
    @diotheworld3444 Před rokem +53

    I think its ok to Compare Diego's TW To Part 3 Dio's TW since they are still pretty much the same person

    • @franksarria9693
      @franksarria9693 Před rokem +7

      yeah, and the fact that araki literally made it a parallel to part 3 so the narrative implications would agree with that notion

    • @Opana223
      @Opana223 Před rokem +7

      Well dio is a vampire while dio is not

    • @diotheworld3444
      @diotheworld3444 Před rokem +12

      @@Opana223 Yeah but that doesnt change the Stands since if that were true Star Platinum would be weaker than the world wich is not the case

    • @khadizaanwarjolly5779
      @khadizaanwarjolly5779 Před rokem

      @@Opana223 Diego is more likely to win as dio lost to star platinum while diego won against one of the strongest stands in jojo

    • @Opana223
      @Opana223 Před rokem +5

      @@khadizaanwarjolly5779 He did know the secret to defeating tusk act 4 from valentine while jotaro had a decent amount of plot armor while fighting dio part 3

  • @Boltychad
    @Boltychad Před 2 měsíci +6

    Pink fridge appears*

  • @georgegobin1839
    @georgegobin1839 Před rokem +11

    It's About Time!😎

    • @MRForca
      @MRForca  Před rokem +1

      A subb?

    • @georgegobin1839
      @georgegobin1839 Před rokem +1

      No....I'm the guy who asked for this vid Remember?😅
      I haven't actually watched it yet because I just got off work but I can't wait to see it!😄

    • @MRForca
      @MRForca  Před rokem +1

      @@georgegobin1839 Yeah i remember. I was just asking.... a subb worthy? :)

    • @georgegobin1839
      @georgegobin1839 Před rokem

      @@MRForca
      Yeah I Already Sub!😉👍

    • @georgegobin1839
      @georgegobin1839 Před rokem

      ​@@MRForca Uhhhh can you do a Wonder Of U vs Makima vid in the future.... just for fun!😅👍

  • @Helpmegetsomt
    @Helpmegetsomt Před 3 měsíci +43

    SHORT EXPLANATION: funny pink man BIG TEARS THE FLESH of funny white hair man invisible wall and then beat him and turns him into a unsolved rubiks cube

    • @Leafs_dragonzz
      @Leafs_dragonzz Před 3 měsíci +1

      lmao

    • @IPYJ_GD
      @IPYJ_GD Před 2 měsíci

      @@Leafs_dragonzz he can break through a fucking barrier of infinite dimensions comprising of an infinite number of timelines, possibilities, universes and dimensions but it cant go through infinite
      sure buddy

    • @sfstalker8706
      @sfstalker8706 Před měsícem

      *tusk act 4 spin his balls*

    • @Leafs_dragonzz
      @Leafs_dragonzz Před měsícem

      @@IPYJ_GD pretty sure this guy was responding to a guy defending gojo, but somehow it's now directed towards me, so it's kind of funny that it looks like he's raging towards me for saying "lmao"

    • @Mond3e
      @Mond3e Před 22 dny

      Funni

  • @Dyras.
    @Dyras. Před 11 měsíci +8

    I'll leave my 2 cents here that jhonny can surpass infinity pretty easily , as his infinity is just dividing space around him into smaller and smaller like
    1/2+1/4+1/8.........1/n
    But tusk act 4 deals infinite damage which can also be written in gojos terms as
    2+4+8+16.......n
    Thus the goal of reaching from 0 to 1 in gojo inf can be done by tusk

  • @monkeman142
    @monkeman142 Před měsícem +1

    (im very late to this vid but im going to put my opinion here anyway) i think tusk act 4 is the one chasing funny valentine through those dimensions because tusk act 4 is imbued with the infinite spin (we can see this in chapter 94 where Diego has to cut off his leg) which puts him far above gojo in speed, this feat also applies to the infinite rotation bullet because the bullet is imbued with tusk act 4

  • @junekun359
    @junekun359 Před 6 měsíci +4

    I feel like it’s a tie as long as Johnny fires act 4 atleast once, if he does then Gojo loses due to tusk act 4 being infinite and never going away until it’s hit its target

  • @carltasticdrew9633
    @carltasticdrew9633 Před 8 měsíci +5

    Next is Makima vs Funny Valentine isn’t/is close than you think??

    • @nicolasleal5644
      @nicolasleal5644 Před 3 měsíci

      Well first, makima just poofs out of existence because she doesn't have intention to kill herself obviously and them converging via valentines ability is just a force of nature not a attack. And what is makima going to do against love train and wouldn't love train counter the effects of her death being transferred to another person since its unfavorable to valentine.

    • @feedmesomeseeds6172
      @feedmesomeseeds6172 Před měsícem

      ​@nicolasleal5644
      Well Love Train's effect is basically the same as Makima's so if Makima can deflect the misfortune deflected from love train. It would just be an endless standoff.
      Valentine wins no cap

  • @needledealer9971
    @needledealer9971 Před 27 dny +2

    Even without any part 3 speed feat shenanigans. Tusk moves in stopped time which should put it at FTL.

  • @fono3657
    @fono3657 Před rokem +5

    Basically the green baby Vs Johnny

    • @MRForca
      @MRForca  Před rokem +4

      In a way, yeah you're right. But then again it comes down to strength tbh

  • @bandzxz9378
    @bandzxz9378 Před rokem +3

    when is your updated tetsuo scale releasing?

    • @MRForca
      @MRForca  Před rokem

      Writing the script right now

    • @bandzxz9378
      @bandzxz9378 Před rokem

      @@MRForca you got disc? Would like to discuss his scaling

    • @MRForca
      @MRForca  Před rokem

      @@bandzxz9378 link in bio or the description

  • @alexanderwidmar2850
    @alexanderwidmar2850 Před 3 měsíci +3

    1:09 huh💀💀💀? Most jojo fans think hes maybe top 3 depending on if you scale him higher than made in heaven and ger

    • @Epic_monculus
      @Epic_monculus Před měsícem +1

      Soft and wet go beyond is easily the strongest but no one ever talks about it for some reason😔

    • @alexanderwidmar2850
      @alexanderwidmar2850 Před měsícem

      ​@@Epic_monculusnot really. He has the highest ap together with wonder of u(the actual strongest stand), but he simply has not enough to compete with others. For example, he could absolutely beat stands like d4clt, sp, ger or king crimson because the bubble would just ingore their abilities, but josuke would be dead before he could get them since he cant control the bubble

    • @vittoriovenetov9655
      @vittoriovenetov9655 Před 12 dny

      @@alexanderwidmar2850 it just depends on the situation if its the strongest ability or not

  • @NectarNapper
    @NectarNapper Před 3 měsíci

    The thing is that both of them have one shot abilities

  • @Troypal_._
    @Troypal_._ Před 4 měsíci

    you dont need to use tw speed scaling you coulda got him higher just based off the fact his nales are able to to pierce and catch up to love train which is stated to be a infinite barrier of light

  • @EditsAnimations
    @EditsAnimations Před 5 dny

    You cant compare Yukis black hole to Gojo, it's just dumb to do that.
    Yukis attack was a LAST resort and it was being held back by Yuki and Tengen, Yuki most likely made a binding vow in order to use that attack in the first place

  • @MrBigBasket
    @MrBigBasket Před 3 měsíci +6

    Realistically to me I can see johnny only winning under very specific circumstances. If both are aware of each others abilities then gojo would just kill Johnny very easily with one of his techniques before johnny can pick up enough speed with his horse to use the infinite rotation.
    If johnny uses act 3 to hide he wouldnt be able to use the infinite rotation without his horse which basically makes him lose cuz no way he is winning without it.
    If act 2 ignores infinity which *might* be possible gojo woul just heal instantly with rct or even just float. I dont remmber if the hole can travel through air or not so it seemed like a reasonable counter. But even then he can just teleport away.
    The chances of johnny getting to use act 4 is very low unless gojo is a fckin idiot.
    Im willing to bet that gojo is faster than johnnys bullets so most of these scenarios seem possible for me but if thats not th case it could go either way.

    • @MrBigBasket
      @MrBigBasket Před 3 měsíci

      If both aren't aware of each others abilities it's up to wether gojo will use DE first. Or kick Johnny off the fucking horse.

    • @subhadrakunwar8022
      @subhadrakunwar8022 Před 2 měsíci

      ⁠@@MrBigBasketmake em both blood lusted for it to be equal and gojo slams

    • @Blackandmode
      @Blackandmode Před 9 dny +1

      @@subhadrakunwar8022 bro is still meat riding gojo

    • @subhadrakunwar8022
      @subhadrakunwar8022 Před 8 dny

      @@Blackandmode L

    • @Blackandmode
      @Blackandmode Před 8 dny +1

      @@subhadrakunwar8022 womp womp meat rider

  • @wet_concrete
    @wet_concrete Před měsícem

    Gojo watching a pink fridge rip open infinity:

  • @MaxChip101
    @MaxChip101 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I don't know the extent to six eyes but only stand users can see stands

    • @Epic_monculus
      @Epic_monculus Před měsícem +1

      Six eyes just increases your ce reserves by a BUNCH. not a lot of hax though

    • @vaso8120
      @vaso8120 Před 24 dny

      Gojo would see stands indirectly, six eyes allow him to see the flow of curse energy so when a stand appears there will be a black point without curse energy and Gojo will be able to see that theres something in humanoid shape that he cant see (idk if i explained right, english isnt my first lenguaje)

    • @MaxChip101
      @MaxChip101 Před 23 dny

      I don't think it really matters though because stands travel between light speed and faster than light, and from the video's I've seen, the maximum speed that someone has reached in jjk was probably like mach 10 (tell me if I'm wrong), also I'm pretty sure gojo cannot dodge an auto tracking bullet (tell me what other things I've missed), but yeah that's pretty much what I think so far.

  • @pretro6136
    @pretro6136 Před 2 měsíci +2

    speed differences? stands are already invisible. so tusk act 4 isn't even close, since gojo can't even know where is tusk, and tusk can hit gojo like normal (and using the wormhole, johnny can hide anywhere while leaving tusk to fight gojo). it's not even close, since you just placed gojo in a fight against an invisible object that is immune to infinity

    • @ZenithSpecter
      @ZenithSpecter Před 2 měsíci

      let's just say stands here work like cursed spirit in jjk

    • @Epic_monculus
      @Epic_monculus Před měsícem +2

      @@ZenithSpecterverse equalization sucks because it’s only done to give the favored character an advantage. I just like the raw fight

    • @vaso8120
      @vaso8120 Před 24 dny

      Gojo actually can see stands without actually see them, he would see the lack of curse energy in a humanoid shape where the stand is

    • @pretro6136
      @pretro6136 Před 24 dny +1

      @@vaso8120 i dont think thats how six eyes works

    • @AdamThomas-vf4op
      @AdamThomas-vf4op Před 22 dny

      ​@@Epic_monculusagreed

  • @VoruXV
    @VoruXV Před 6 měsíci +1

    infinity vs infinity

  • @tooru-7296
    @tooru-7296 Před rokem +6

    They Both Don't Have Enough Drip To Touch This!😏
    Kono Tooru da!
    Now your guts I will be spilling
    When I turn my back on ya
    There's a consequence
    Got the guts to pursue?

    • @MRForca
      @MRForca  Před rokem +1

      Lmao

    • @Arizashi
      @Arizashi Před rokem +2

      It's the world that you're against
      That's the wonder of U 😈

    • @georgegobin1839
      @georgegobin1839 Před rokem +1

      ​​@@Arizashi
      See the flow is a calamity
      Chasing me's insanity
      Stub your toe and you know
      I won't be giving bandaging!
      Trust me, I'm a real doc
      This'll sting like a wasp
      When I get my main Yasuho
      Back on lock!😎

  • @succanighadicc
    @succanighadicc Před 3 měsíci +2

    gojo watching tusk act 4 ripping his domain open like a bag of doritos:

  • @saltsaltius9831
    @saltsaltius9831 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Reasons why Jonny would win: he has tusk, quite possibly one of the most powerful stands of all time second only to hold experience requiem, the world over heaven and starplatnum (because it’s the same type of stand)
    Reasons why gojo would win: he can stand up for himself
    Edit: stop arguing in my shitpost

    • @sbenhaba
      @sbenhaba Před 3 měsíci

      we shall not include part 8 in this

    • @nicolasleal5644
      @nicolasleal5644 Před 3 měsíci

      Johnny can also stand after tusk act 4 tho.

    • @subhadrakunwar8022
      @subhadrakunwar8022 Před 2 měsíci

      Reasons why gojo would win
      Ta4 takes time to even shoot and gojo would blitz him before he could even shoot it
      Ta3 bro can just tp or float in the air
      Ta2 might work but rct exists
      Gojo outscales Johnny in speed iq healing whatever

    • @almaredfern9850
      @almaredfern9850 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@subhadrakunwar8022 bro why do you guys who tries to prove that gojo slams always need to nerf the other that's crazy, first ta4 doesn't need to be fire with the bullet to be deployed he can be summon by Johnny in close range if gojo do tp to him, but also another thing is that stand can also work independent to the user since its only goal is to protect the user an example of that could be star platinum stopping a bullet with jotaro not being fast enough but star platinum is, so based on this and that tusk acts 4 has infinite speed strength and everything and can bypass anything even matter because of the rotation which is infinite he slams gojo, and even if Johnny gets unlucky or makes a wrong moves and somehow gets killed, tusk doesn't go away either, it will trace him since it is the literal manifestation of the golden rotation he's infinite, but you may argue that it will take time for him to use tusk act 4 since it needs the infinite rotation, well yeah and so if each doesn't know their ability gojo is cooked like a bbq on a summer beach he wouldn't know Johnny's ability and just wonder why he's running away, Johnny just need the horse to run a little just a little for the rotation to manifest in tusk and that's just all that it needs, and if they do know their ability then the horse just need to run then Johnny just gotta use act 3 shoots himself directly enters a wormhole then else moves somewhere else where he has time to use the infinite rotation with his horse or he just shoots him from somewhere and that's it gojo can't stop the infinite rotation and if he shoots huge amount of them its gonna be hard for him to tp or float every time since, he still consumes energy for this crap to happen while Johnny becomes intangible and lets not forget that even if he's in the air he just vulnerable to being shoot directly anyway, and I doubt that Johnny is dumb he is very smart which was shown across the manga so yeah gojo is just cooked either way.
      note.
      also it is unclear whether tusk act 4 need a horse or not because of the ending of part 7 where we see Johnny use him on a boat without a horse so else its the form without the infinite rotation or with the infinite rotation could depend or he uses the steel ball, heck maybe he can also store the infinite rotation if he trained after the end battle who knows.

    • @subhadrakunwar8022
      @subhadrakunwar8022 Před 2 měsíci

      @@almaredfern9850 “gojo is cooked because in this hyper specific situation where both characters don’t know each other and only johhny is trying to kill gojo he will win!” So johhny gonna run away in a 1v1 and gojos not giving chance aside from that ta4 doesn’t exist after death read part 8 johhny literally dies and ta4 is still gone the power of the rotation if shot exists if u read part 8 some leaves have the power when johhny off’s himself but we never see ta4 itself only the aftermath of the spin it launched

  • @ExistingHi
    @ExistingHi Před měsícem +1

    Gojo watching a cripple shoot him in the chest and then appear out of his left nipple ( A entire fridge came along too ):

    • @Nivilton_Plays
      @Nivilton_Plays Před měsícem

      Johnny can walk in the end of steel ball

    • @ExistingHi
      @ExistingHi Před měsícem

      @@Nivilton_Plays Still slams regardles ( funnier when its joe swatsons blonde twink jjba counterpart. )

    • @Nivilton_Plays
      @Nivilton_Plays Před měsícem

      @@ExistingHi I only mentioned he can walk

    • @ExistingHi
      @ExistingHi Před měsícem

      @@Nivilton_Plays cewl.

  • @Valentino_69lover
    @Valentino_69lover Před 4 měsíci +3

    Infinity is just love train

    • @nicolasleal5644
      @nicolasleal5644 Před 3 měsíci

      No. Infinity is valentines ability to travel to infinite neighboring universes and not being able to escape Johnny's infinite spin. Love train just diverts any harm and unfortune from the user making him effectively invincible inside of it.

    • @Valentino_69lover
      @Valentino_69lover Před 3 měsíci

      @@nicolasleal5644 Infinity ist Infinity

  • @idkanymore1282
    @idkanymore1282 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Johnny Easily solos Gojo because of Gojos pretty face. I am not even kidding gojo is so pretty that johnny can find the golden ration in his face im not joking this is true therefore johnny can easily activate task act four which bypassess infinity

    • @Epic_monculus
      @Epic_monculus Před měsícem +1

      The golden rectangle is what activates tusk act 2 and mastery of it activates tusk act 3. To get act four Johnny needs a horse to go at its natural movement and then combine act 3’s activation.

    • @idkanymore1282
      @idkanymore1282 Před měsícem

      @@Epic_monculus OHH YEAH I FORGOT ABOUT THAT

  • @june3149
    @june3149 Před měsícem +1

    Gojo wouldn't even be able to see Tusk 😭
    Bro will literally only see Johny hit a goofy pose

    • @Nivilton_Plays
      @Nivilton_Plays Před měsícem

      I forgot non stand users can't see stand but he can sense tusk right?

    • @june3149
      @june3149 Před měsícem

      @@Nivilton_Plays different ytbers/people has differing opinions on this but at the least he can probably sense tusk.
      some say that to level the playing field, other characters with spiritual powers and energy powers(similar to hamon)should be able to see Stands (this includes overly "physical" killing intent, DBZ style energy/aura, etc..)

  • @MarioCashy
    @MarioCashy Před rokem +5

    nah tusk not the strongest but he up there

    • @MRForca
      @MRForca  Před rokem +8

      im not saying he is the strongest. I said he is considered the stongest by the comm.

    • @georgegobin1839
      @georgegobin1839 Před rokem +8

      When It comes to "Raw Power" Tusk Is The Strongest Stand In JoJo but from a Power Scaleng, Hax, and "Logical" Perspective Wonder Of U should honestly be the Strongest Stand In JoJo.
      Even if Gappy took down Wonder Of U he still needed outside help and even some plot armor to take down WOU.
      In my opinion Wonder Of U would take down Gappy no problem in a 1v1 and WOU is still an overall Stronger Stand..... but this is just my opinion!😅

    • @MarioCashy
      @MarioCashy Před rokem +1

      @@georgegobin1839 who do u think wins between WOU and D4C Love train tho ??

    • @MarioCashy
      @MarioCashy Před rokem +1

      @@georgegobin1839 and nah i think in terms of raw strength it'll be Star-P bcuz remember tusk progressively got stronger just like Echoes

    • @georgegobin1839
      @georgegobin1839 Před rokem +2

      ​@@MarioCashy
      Very interesting Debate but Wonder Of U should have the Edge in my opinion!😅
      My reasoning!:
      In the Flashback of Johnny Jostar Death we Saw that The Flow Of Calamity not only manipulated The Corpse Parts but also basically made Johnny Jostar blow his own head off with his own Stand Ability! So "Logicely WOU should scale above both Love Train and Tusk Act 4 simply because they follow logic and can't overcome logic so from a power scaling perspective "The Flow Of Calamity" should still work/bypass D4C Love-Train.
      Also all of Funny Valintine Abilitys follow logic so the Flow Of Calamity should simply prvent Funny Valintine from using Abilitys and making WOU untouchable.
      On Paper D4C sounds like a perfect counter to protect yourself from WOU but it's not because not only are you bing Attacked by Calamity but also by logic it self so basically anything that can go wrong will go wrong and the Flow Of Calamity will eventually find a way to kill Funny Valintine.
      Funny Valentine Scaling: High 4D
      Wonder Of U Scaling: 5D
      Wonder Of U should win but all of this is just my opinion!😅👍

  • @ElysiumFields306
    @ElysiumFields306 Před 4 měsíci

    Yuta has more cursed energy than Gojo, but Gojo has the six eyes. Yuta doesnt have inf cursed energy, just a ton. And Gojo uses the six eyes to use barely any CE when using techniques.

  • @smtandearthboundsuck8400
    @smtandearthboundsuck8400 Před měsícem

    So people say Gojo loses to WoU because it wouldn't allow him to prepare a purple or use his domain.
    But somehow Gojo can't just open his domain and win instantly here before Johnny even lifts a finger 🤣. Unless you assume Tusk still works automatically even when Johnny is turned into a vegetable, Gojo uses his domain and hits Johnny first 10/10 times. Still a Gojo W either way because Johnny loses first

  • @iceindaskyuwu9040
    @iceindaskyuwu9040 Před 16 dny

    But johnny could walk at the end tho... So basically walk vs walk

  • @rafrafrafraf9953
    @rafrafrafraf9953 Před rokem +2

    Do you think that you gonna ever start scaling up pop culture as a whole not just JoJo and if the answer is "yes" than I can give you a fresh start
    Luz(the owl house) vs Anne(amphibia) not even close
    What you say? because we need more scalers of pop culture because it shown several times that death battle isn't really the Best at it

    • @MRForca
      @MRForca  Před rokem

      I got like 2 vids im gonna upload right this week hopefully. But i will try to scale both characters for you.

    • @rafrafrafraf9953
      @rafrafrafraf9953 Před rokem

      @@MRForca I can help you with that, since I personally scaled them

    • @MRForca
      @MRForca  Před rokem

      @@rafrafrafraf9953 Bet. my discord @ is Jaq#0001

  • @mediccmann902
    @mediccmann902 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Bro gojo can't even see tusk becouse gojo isn't stand user

  • @sneakykitsune6
    @sneakykitsune6 Před 2 měsíci

    *rips open infinity like dorito bag*

  • @Mrblue..b
    @Mrblue..b Před rokem +4

    Tusk isn't the strongest stand

    • @MRForca
      @MRForca  Před rokem +2

      Alot of people within the jojos community thinks so. I personally don't but iam simply giving my opinion on this versus battle.

    • @Mrblue..b
      @Mrblue..b Před rokem

      @@MRForca wonder of u soft and wet go beyond the world over heaven before the last part was fully out mabye but recently nope video is good tho

    • @jishamuralidharan7020
      @jishamuralidharan7020 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@MRForcawe need a scaling vid on King (opm) vs Hey ya (jojo part 7)
      The battle of luck😂

  • @broccieboi
    @broccieboi Před měsícem

    Gojo is really fast and strong without infinity. Without prep he would probably act cocky and try to take a hit not knowing about act 4 but if he does know about act 4, he would probably overwhelm johnny with attacks and kill him

  • @TomasBregman
    @TomasBregman Před 3 měsíci

    Both can one shot each other. However Johnny is probably faster but Johnny needs to be on a horse to activate act four so he loses.

    • @MRForca
      @MRForca  Před 3 měsíci +3

      he doesn't need to be on a horse anymore

    • @r3voi254
      @r3voi254 Před 3 měsíci

      He just needs a horse before the battle to activate inf spin once, and then he wont need the horse any more

  • @kthegoat2926
    @kthegoat2926 Před rokem +2

    Heat

  • @ArthurTheFree2Play
    @ArthurTheFree2Play Před 2 měsíci

    deamn johny is using hacks

  • @yizehiew1506
    @yizehiew1506 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Gojo can use unlimited voids in domain expension n let johny can't move n think

    • @lazyvoid7107
      @lazyvoid7107 Před 9 měsíci +10

      But Tusk act 4 can move without the user

    • @luigigx1172
      @luigigx1172 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@lazyvoid7107that what I was thinking.

    • @midnightbat344
      @midnightbat344 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@luigigx1172he cant that the thing remember when dio use time stop and was going to touch the arm but did why didnt tusk attack him why he just stand there only make sound

    • @jugglenaut1955
      @jugglenaut1955 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@midnightbat344 Because people love overhyping Tusk. His infinite rotation remains active due to gravity, not speed, and is only capable of twitching at best.

    • @midnightbat344
      @midnightbat344 Před 6 měsíci

      @@jugglenaut1955 it not bc the user cant move in timestop only the stand is infinity

  • @ludareinoso381
    @ludareinoso381 Před 7 měsíci

    Infinite spin w

  • @jujutsuKaisenIsTheWorstNewGen

    It's not closer than you think Johnny and verse neg diff so delete this

  • @TTV_JustAToma
    @TTV_JustAToma Před 3 měsíci

    Imma have to say cap. TA4 bullets are not fast,they are comparable to a 1800 gun as said in the manga. Unless gojo stands there and gets shot he is not getting hit. Part 7 stands are all haxs and thats it. Diego with Scary Monsters is the fastest character and not even light speed (Diego Speedblitz Valetine)

    • @MRForca
      @MRForca  Před 3 měsíci +2

      i've been saying that for years now bud. I said in hte video if johnnys bullet does hit gojo he will force open the infinity. But the speed is garbage

    • @TTV_JustAToma
      @TTV_JustAToma Před 3 měsíci

      @jaqcole yea that's true but it's really for all the part 7 fans who think the characters have MFTL speed and stuff and amazing durability. I mean they got amazing endurance but yea.

    • @nicolasleal5644
      @nicolasleal5644 Před 3 měsíci

      ​​@@MRForcaonce fired the whole inf rotation goes in a singular trajectory infinitely. Meaning once fired it is guaranteed to hit the target without fail, no matter where you escape to. It's like the old problem with a immortal snail that follows you and once you touch it you die also making you immortal until you do touch it. Once gojo gets shot at its already to late, he activates his domain and it would just be a shorter version of valentines fight without dimension traveling. Even if the user died infinite rotation can't be avoided once he shot it as it becomes detached from the user. That's why it would win against GER as well because of its detachment from the user after fired. It's like a line that goes infinitely in either direction the moment it is fired. Gojo loses weather he kills Johnny or not, and even if it does "miss" it can just track him anyways when it turns into a bullet hole In the ground and move onto gojo. Gojos cool and all but he is dealing with a ability that counters him in every way. He can't even speed blitz him either because tusk will defend and since act 4 is made of raw infinite energy, he will immediately experience the effects of infinite rotation upon contact with tusk act 4.

    • @Epic_monculus
      @Epic_monculus Před měsícem

      Isn’t that just a statement act 1 though? I would assume the speed scales up throughout the acts no?

    • @MRForca
      @MRForca  Před měsícem

      @@Epic_monculus just evolutions of shots and more abilities. He gains broken abilities throughout the fight

  • @ybakeit2354
    @ybakeit2354 Před rokem

    Ok what if johny doesnt have a horse

  • @user-lw2hh9fk2l
    @user-lw2hh9fk2l Před 3 měsíci

    End Of The Day We're All Biased💀🙏
    -Someone Smart???

  • @Sarah12471
    @Sarah12471 Před rokem +3

    Well i feel that this comes down to if Gojo's infinity is a barrier, because if not johnny is Shit out of luck

    • @MRForca
      @MRForca  Před rokem

      True

    • @terrorsDomain
      @terrorsDomain Před 10 měsíci

      It Ignores All Hax Except Possibly Reality Manipulation But EOH Is Not Canon.@@MRForca

    • @lazyvoid7107
      @lazyvoid7107 Před 8 měsíci

      Actually it's a barrier

  • @annikacaitlorenzo9578
    @annikacaitlorenzo9578 Před 3 měsíci

    gojo would still be cocky and thinks that his infinity cant be broken,

  • @zestytestes4799
    @zestytestes4799 Před 4 měsíci

    have yall forgot that Johnny can run now

    • @r3voi254
      @r3voi254 Před 3 měsíci

      Fr, at the end of the series he learners how to walk again, ez win for johnny

  • @MrCraftyScales
    @MrCraftyScales Před rokem +1

    I disagree, and u low balled both characters

    • @MRForca
      @MRForca  Před rokem +4

      They're both on that level

    • @MrCraftyScales
      @MrCraftyScales Před rokem +1

      @@MRForca no there both higher

    • @nextcyber7197
      @nextcyber7197 Před rokem +2

      ​@@MrCraftyScalesbruh he mad

    • @MrCraftyScales
      @MrCraftyScales Před rokem

      @@nextcyber7197 no lol how?

    • @r3voi254
      @r3voi254 Před 3 měsíci

      But their at similar levels the diference is johnny at the end learns how to use inf spin without the horse and can use his legs

  • @minormike5592
    @minormike5592 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Gojo slaps yall delusional

    • @lazyvoid7107
      @lazyvoid7107 Před 8 měsíci +10

      Lol little Fortnite kid doesn't know Jojo

    • @jishamuralidharan7020
      @jishamuralidharan7020 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Goofy ahh fortnite kid, put down the i pad and go help mommy

  • @danillosouza2
    @danillosouza2 Před měsícem

    JIMIMIMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!

  • @juanhaines7295
    @juanhaines7295 Před rokem +10

    Johnny needs his horse to use act 4 while gojo can bust out his ultimate technique hollow purple at any time. As much as love Johnny he isn't winning.

    • @MRForca
      @MRForca  Před rokem +22

      Johnny doesn't need the horse anymore. He just pulled it out when he was in the boat in the end of the series

    • @juanhaines7295
      @juanhaines7295 Před rokem +2

      Then why was he shown using a horse in the flash backs of jojolion? Because he was on one when he used act 4 to save his son.

    • @MRForca
      @MRForca  Před rokem +16

      @@juanhaines7295 I don't know what to tell you bro. We see him use it on a boat in the end of part 7.

    • @franciscoevora5973
      @franciscoevora5973 Před rokem +2

      Johnny learns to mimic the movements of the horse with his legs so after sbr he can use act 4 at will

    • @mr.smarty7138
      @mr.smarty7138 Před rokem

      @@MRForca naah brah