Game Theory: Minecraft, The FROZEN Nether
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Loyal Theorists, today I’m serving up some HOT TAKES about the nether in Minecraft…or maybe they’re actually cold takes. You see, today I'm arguing that the nether… you know, the place filled with LAVA and FLAMES actually used to be filled with ICE and WATER! Yep, the Nether had an ICE AGE, and I can prove it. So strap on those snow boots and zip up those winter coats because we’re heading to the nether!
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I love when MatPat does Minecraft theories. Feels like I'm in 4th grade all over again and watching everything minecraft
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@@user-fb7pe6up3c is that possible??
MatPat: "H-E-Double-Hockey-Sticks"
Also MatPat: "Hellfire and brimstone"
It’s a old habit, as old CZcams would demonetize swearing, yes, even mentioning hell as referring to the place would demonetize them
Don't they still demonetize videos with cursing in the first few minutes or something
CZcams demonetize based on the start of the vid
I think heck is a better name.
Nether: Constantly overmined for its ice and water resources whilst facing climate change
2x2 Infinite water source: Allow us to introduce ourselves.
I love how Matpat has turned the Ancient Builders into his own OC with deep lore and unique characteristics
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OC?
@@bryantechno4704 OC = own character
@@bryantechno4704 orgasming character
@@setsuna2456 original character
It’s also completely possible that the newer nether biomes could be the environment slowly recovering
I like the thoughts behind this one
I love this idea, and I keep finding that mods support a lot of the theories that Matpat has made or that others have made. There's mods called BetterNether and BetterEnd, which could have a double meaning. Better in terms of visual consumption, but it could also mean those areas are "getting better" as in they're recovering from being overused.
could be similar to how fungi uses dead biomass to grow
But theoretically the blue ice would be there if the basalt was newly formed.
I love imagining the Minecraft devs watching these videos like, "Yeah sure that'll work."
But most of matpat’s theories have been proven wrong in the next update
How so? To this day I don't think anything has quite debunked all of his Minecraft theories, as his theories are about a very ancient civilization, therefore it'd be hard to take modern-day (ingame) examples to denounce ideas of what happened oh so long ago. @@hazardousgamer9824
I love how matpat saw a peaceful game of creation and creativity and thought " there has to be a villain." And got to digging.
This game´s lore is looking more and more like Factorio...
And i dig it.
@@pedromiret9195 "dig it" in a minecraft comment! i get it!
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Wordplay! What a wonderfully joyous thing, is it not, my chap?
A precious find of mine, crafting one such pun needs only knowing what words to pick, axe entirely from the lineup, choose what would sound best when read, stone face against ridicule, and of course a lack of concern about sounding like a dork or a creep. Err or at least so I'm told.
@@pedromiret9195 I consider myself, Monsoon Memus III to be elegant at finding jokes or wordplay!
Gotta admit it’s quite the stretch to make Minecraft hell an allegory to global warming when that doesn’t explain anything else except basalt in the game, and the ancient builders would have to be stupidly obsessed with getting it, and it would have to be that they made it isn’t easy of getting it, or else why waste ice when you could just mine the freely available basalt?
Ngl these are probably the theories ill miss the most. Thanks matpat, for everything.
We`ll all miss him
Can't wait to hear what MatPat says about the pottery item in the new update with a picture of The Warden on it called "The Mourner".
My favourite part of these Minecraft videos is how MatPat seems to actually enjoy making them. Not compelled by the algorithm, but because he actually enjoys this.
@The Game Thoerists 🅥 bro doesnt even know how to spell correctly lmao
Damn you got two bot comments.
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I agree lately I haven't been watching many of his theories but I always watch his Minecraft and FNAF theories.
So many dam bots
I think it should also be noted that ancient cities use soul torches and soul lanterns. AKA a light source that doesn’t melt ice. They learned how to melt less ice but it was too late
I think RGN’S theory for the Ancient Cities is the best explanation for the soul lanterns
Bots have overpowered humans in this reply section.
Help why are there so many bots 😭
Bro there's so many hots on this poor guys comment
Literally tried alternative sources of light.. and was too late in the process
Humanity moment
Dear MatPat, I think it's sus how if villagers have never been to the nether they sell you netherite and have brewing stands.
they do not sell netherite
they do have brewing stands
@@jianchristian1367 bro they do sell netherite if they are really leveled up and in the tower thing in village they have brewing stands
@@Asim_mangi they don’t sell netherite in either version at any level
@@Asim_mangi proof?
it could be because those were the remaining souvenirs the builders brought home before the ancient builders vanished. (I`m referring to the Netherite) if what your saying is true that they sell netherite.
Something that may add to this theory: When you go to the Nether, there's something of a haze effect if you try to look into the distance. Players who have messed around with the files and swapped some things around for them to make a connectable nether portal in the end have created that same effect, meaning that the haze could be lingering gases from in the Nether, since that seems to be a part of that dimension.
How about a theory explaining the Ghasts. There's an achievement in Minecraft called "Uneasy Alliance," and the description says "Rescue a Ghast from the Nether, bring it safely home to the Overworld... and then kill it." It is a VERY peculiar achievement that might make an interesting theory.
Yes! Matpat PLEASE SEE THIS COMMENT. Amazing theory btw.
(I am your 155th like). :)
@@Among-Us-logo-wi6nb I didn't know I got so many! Thanks for the like! 🤣👍🏻
190 likes.
wait, it says rescue? that's a very peculiar choice of words if i do say so myself.
i feel like ghasts could possibly be the undead ghosts of the large creatures that once roamed the nether, considering how they're also pretty large and mostly spawn in the soul sand valley, which contains the large skeleton structures
The nice thing about Minecraft updates is that they give this impression of slowly returning biodiversity.
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I love that!!!
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I just uploaded my first 100 days of survival, it ended up being pretty cool! If you could check it out It would mean the world to me! Have a great day!
@@darthdogeyt3260 Me too!!
I always thought the nether was once a better and more peaceful place. The music that plays when you enter feels like calm and peaceful.
Theory idea: How hot is the nether? For water to immediately evaporate, and for fire to stay lit for ever (on nether rack).
Also, as a side note. The official minecraft novel, _The Island_ by Max Brooks, has a very notable environmentalist theme. One of the memorable problems the protagonist faces is when he cuts down so many of the trees, yet doesn't plant any of them back.
It could be a hint of what they did in the Nether.
Doesn’t he also completely make apples extinct as well because all of the oak trees were gone.
Lorax reference
How bad can that guy possibly be?
@@gulpin768 He's just doing what comes naturally
Honestly the ending of the ancient builders’ story is oddly satisfying. They kept hopping from one dimension to another after ruining the previous without learning from their mistakes until they got trapped in the End. Yes they did pillage it as well as but they were trapped and finally had to face the consequences.
That kinda make sense
Nether: Constantly overmined for its ice and water resources whilst facing climate change
2x2 Infinite water source: Allow us to introduce ourselves.
@@ZaidanDarmasakti they weren't as powerful as us we are the last one of their kind and we survived because of our powers 1 of our powers is to be able to create infinite water
I mean this a bad theory. The nether could never have been icy. Its a closed environment with massive amounts of lava. Nothing is releasing heat, so it never could have been the way matt proposes
Another thing worth mentioning:
Mojang itself confirmed that the Basalt Deltas were the result of ancient, catastrophic explosions, and that the ambient noises include what sounds like a Geiger Counter ticking away.
10:34
7yo kids in Minecraft: let's run a nuke test in the village
Admit it. Its fun.
Whenever your theories go into the “what is now, because of what used to be” it makes me want to hop on Minecraft and *create what used to be*
Me too, but it's not an easy task.
I wish you luck on that with this theory.
We need a modder in here
Sounds like a great project, restoring bastions and making the world lush.
@Nоt RiскrоII your username is oddly suspicious 🧐
Ancient Builders : OK now our story is finally comple-
MatPat : hold my potion
“Oh boy, I’m so glad I’m not responsible for mass death”
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@@hereisthefullvid8934 who asked
Ok these “hold my ___” things aren’t funny anymore and it’s a pretty dead meme thing now
@Nоt RiскrоII ok
this is actually so cool. i like the idea of oral legends and drawings of the ancient builders and their negative aura being passed down by piglin generations with what little they have to document the stories, which creates an automatic vendetta against steve (unless of course he proves himself an ally to the average piglin, then he can roam safer around bastions)
Blue Ice is a real thing that you can get from glaciers in the real world, thats why Mojang named it that way, they do try to name stuff correctly.
A cool thing to me about the ancient builders is that in Minecraft story mode season one the main antagonists were called “old builders” for those who don’t already know they were a fabled ancient group of builders with great technological abilities and they lived in another dimension.
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@@benjaminmclaren8782 let’s be honest, your completely right
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The greenhouse effect only works with light coming in from the outside. The nether has a ceiling. But the same could have happened without any greenhouse gases because the heat couldn't escape anywhere. In this case it wouldn't need the ancient builders to ruin the nether.
2 bots in one comment💀
Technically the greenhouse effect is what stops heat radiating away as quickly, the source of the heat doesn't really matter. On Earth that means instead of the infrared radiation going straight into space a lot gets caught by the atmosphere and can get re-released (partially radiating back to the ground and other parts of the atmosphere). The heat is gone once it reaches space because it can't be caught anymore.
The real issue here is how does heat escape the Nether at all? Even before bringing in greenhouse gasses.
Same thing I thought, CO2 and Methane in its self doesn't cause the environment to warm up, but on Earth it does trap the heat that Earth might have otherwise radiated out into space.
What about Portals? Do they let some air out of it?
@@zea_64 It does not, and by being a volcanic place it would've been filled with Sulphur gases already, which are all greenhouse as well.
I find these Theories incredibly funny because while lore-wise yes they make sense, between this and the Ancient Builders supposedly hunting almost all Ender Dragons to extinction, you have to consider the fact they'd need to do that for a 30million meter by 30million meter area of land... for each dimension. xD
This went from being about a nice peaceful building game to real world warnings
I thought you were going to talk about how the Piglins have water bottles, and how mushrooms have to rely on moisture, so the nether is actually hot and moist.
Me too
Water vapor.
@HIBA TV stop
Yes ? Water does evaporates instantli wen placed ther... So it gota be super saturated and so
Y'know what would be sick?
After Mat finishes all these videos, someone builds everything the way it would be cannonically
That would be cool no pun intended
@RR thats a cooking video
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@@fishkittywhiskers5433 it's the new rick roll shhhh
He says, as if MatPat will ever be done with this series...
You say they went to the nether to escape the wither, yet to create the wither they would have needed the soul soil and wither skeleton skulls from the nether first. The better argument for their original foray into the nether is as you have suggested previously, their hubris, desire for conquest, resources and advancement.
I went ahead and binged this series for fun because I just discovered it. One major question I have, though, revolves around the Illagers.
MatPat said that the Illagers are likely “cargo culting” things they had seen the Ancient Builders do or build. We know for a fact Illagers come from Villagers too. However, one theory episode (the Iron Golem theory video iirc) posed the idea that the Villagers came from a faction of Ancient Builders who stopped progressing forward and settled down, forgetting how to build and craft. If Illagers come from the Villagers who in turn came from the Builders, why would they be cargo culting what used to be their own civilization? The theory of the Illagers posed that the reason they made the End Portals of wool was because they saw the Builders arrive from the portals. How could that be possible if they themselves were descendants of a faction of Builders who settled?
A second question is: if Illagers come from Villagers, who cannot build, how do the Illagers build their bases and wool statues? Also, Villagers own beds. Why would Illagers, former Villagers themselves, make wool replicas of beds rather than real beds, since they would have seen and used them as Villagers themselves?
As soon as MatPat said "giant mammoth-like mobs in the nether" at 7:50 I immediately thought of the sniffer and how they are supposed to be able to grow huge. There eggs are even found in water, so I just think it fits.
how tf do those grass noses "migrate" to another freaking dimension
I don't agree with this theory
They also look like nether blocks maybe as camouflage
@@averageracistperson525 maybe they were native to the nether but were taken to the overworld
@@Lumberjack_king Plus they cannot spawn naturally in the overworld and need to be hatched from an egg which are found deep in the ocean within underwater ruins, supposed ruined structures created by the builders.
You mention that glaciers flow like rivers, which is correct. But I’m shocked you didn’t point out the “Deltas” in “Basalt Deltas”. A delta of a river is a place where the water (or in this case ice) flattens and spreads out over a wide area. The Basalt deltas were probably the ends of enormous glaciers.
thats what im sayin
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@@somedudeontheinternet1721 nerd emoji is just a replacement for "i dont understand what you're saying so you're a nerd"
@@somedudeontheinternet1721my whole entire argument when someone uses the nerd emoji: 💔
@@somedudeontheinternet1721 I wish you pain and agony.
I literally came up with this entire basalt thing in science class when we were looking at rocks, but when I told my sister she said it was already a theory! I really thought I was soooo smart for thinking of that!
I say that with love and encouragement 😊
10:06 “ the temperature has Rizzen”
I was soo ready to see Austin doing some crazy thermodynamic math to proof that lava is cold or something but got some lore instead.
Tip: game theory’s have green text, The science is blue text
TBH there's a lot to suggest that Minecraft's lava is very cool (for lava)... Also check their channel, I'm pretty sure there IS an Austin vid on that :D
I’m addicted to his Minecraft series over anything else
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I feel like Matpat is like my English teacher and Notch is Shakespeare and Minecraft is his write .Matpat also elaborates the game like how English teacher elaborate a line by Shakespeare.
I've watched all your minecraft videos now, and I think they leave the one single most important question unanswered:
Who is Steve?
You keep calling the ancient builders his ancestors, but children don't suddenly appear as a fully grown person, alone in the world, centuries after their species demise.
The issue with a greenhouse effect is it is a result of preventing thermal radiation from escaping. The Nether Roof already traps all the thermal radiation, so adding co2 and methane won't heat it up.
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Yis, just commented the same thing! Tho changing the concentration of GGs in the atmosphere may've had an effect on the absorbtion of the thermal enegry coming up from beneath?
@@rosemarythedrow gases are very bad energy storages due to their low density. So it propably wouldn't have done anything to the enviroment alone. However, bringing tons of coal into the ecosystem and burning it could easily bring more heat into the system, than it is capable of managing
I thought the same, but then again, if that was the case, then the Nether would just heat up infinitely from the lava being released and the irradiation from the living beings there. Heat is escaping somehow.
The sad thing is that the builders weren't even done. If we put all his Minecraft theories in chronological order, the builders came back to create the fortresses, leading to them trying to bring back dead loved ones and friends. This then resulted in the creation of wither skeletons and the wither.
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If only Mojang would listen to Matpat, his research is valuable, especially for veteran players.
Damn , these ancient builders are basically us humans in Minecraft who polluted the Earth and also a WHOLE NEW DIMENSION 😭
This was a fun little theory, but I seriously had an stroke when matpat said that devils tower was made of basalt. For anyone that's interested Devil's Tower is actually made of a relatively uncommon igneous rock called a phonolite porphyry and likely cooled under ground near the surface.
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I had stroke when he mentioned that greenhouse gasses heated nether... without need of Sun
@@patrikmodrovsky1842 how do greenhouse gases work? I kinda assumed they form a layer that trap heat from the earth, like volcanoes and stuff
I didn’t know that! Thanks for the fun fact, I wondered why it looked so different.
@@Evitzeoshowerthoughts they abosrb part of the light from sun, that would normally just bounce of earth, thus heating themself and earth itself
I find it weird how the ancient builders never discovered automatic farms considering they could create Portals better than Steve can.
They probably did
@@mouldybluelemonmaybe they didn’t last as long as the rock and stuff. But I don’t know.
They have, Its called "SPAWNERS" those UN-craftable blocks pooping out hostile mobs.
they never found the right tutorials 🤷♀️
They took our jobs
He’s like the English teacher who makes up the hidden meaning to the book.
6:02 no way... I've been to that glacier, i even dipped my feet in the lake. It was painful, but worth it. The hike to there is really incredibile and seeing all the "the glacier used to be here in this year" plaques along the valley was honestly kind of unsettling. It's in lombardy (italy) for anybody asking.
Another thing that could point to there once having been water in the nether (although a much smaller point) is that Piglins trade you potions of fire resistance. And in order to craft potions, you need bottles of water.
they also trade water bottles themselves nowadays
and also they never use fire res themselves. bc its a limited resource and they dont want to waste it. its only worth it if they can get gold
I'm gonna say they just got that from the ancient builders?
Yet another thing is that if the nether was always flaming hot, the basalt wouldn't have been able to form in the first place since it requires RAPID cooling.
I think they got those from the ancient builders when they raided their fortresses when they left or killed them in battle. The piglins have no need to craft any themselves since they are naturally fireproof, and the builders would likely have some on them
@@tristanlassche3560 how are pglins naturally fireproof. One of the more common ways of killing them is with lava
not to mention that in Minecraft Dungeons: Flames of The Nether DLC, the nether wastes level has a bunch of large fallen machines that look like large drills, gears, and factory-looking objects. Also some specific themes of the DLC is about piglins using a sort of steampunk technology.
Yet another reason why I believe that Minecraft Dungeons is a prequel to Minecraft. It takes place before the ancient builders--the heroes/adventurers we play as--died out.
Matpat: bring in the ice age the nether not the *mediocre* movies
Me who grew up with blue sky studios: and I took that personally
1:46 you should've said "I struck gold"... opportunity missed
I always pronounced Basalt as "ba-SALT", but I like Matt emphasizing the first syllable here because it keeps sounding like he's talking about the science behind bath salts!
The ancient builders were Florida Man confirmed!
I'm pretty sure the way you pronounce it is correct, and I don't know why Matt's saying it like that.
Bay salt for me
I kept hearing bath salt too
How could you mistake that for bath salts? “Bath salts” never once crossed my mind.
I would just like to point out that greenhouse gases (to my knowledge) can only work their magic when light can go through it and become trapped like a green house. Kinda hard to do that underground. Much love for your work and no ill intent meant
It's the heat that doesn't escape. The heat source doesn't need to be light. The Nether has a roof/ceiling so heat shouldn't be able to escape anyway.
@@overkill1340 then the gases are entirely unrelated, and even then without some other variable the heat would eventually dissipate.
The reason active volcanos stay hot is because new lava is being pushed to surface. Without the constant addition it cools quickly.
Unless the builders created an active volcano on the spot that part makes no sense
this is what ive been saying! def not his best work...
@@oneone99able Well clearly there is some dissipation to begin with otherwise the player wouldn't be able to survive in the Nether as it currently is.
But before the ancient builders came to the Nether their ecosystem probably produced very little amounts of greenhouse gas, enough for it to eventually dissipate through the bedrock. Then the ancient builders came bringing way too much greenhouse gases and the fragile Nether ecosystem most likely couldn't handle it.
@@oneone99able He says in the video that the Nether warms because of the influx of greenhouse gases, which can absorb and keep heat in the environment regardless of where it comes from. In our real world, it stops solar heat from bouncing off of the planet and returning to space. Also in real life, thermal energy is incredibly efficient at seeping through solid matter, especially stone like bedrock appears to be, meaning the bedrock ceiling acts as a heat sink to get geothermal energy out into the void. It's likely that the greenhouse gases formed a blanket underneath the heat-sink ceiling that pushed heat above the Nether and slowed the output of geothermal heat.
As for life, it's entirely plausible that the gases in the Nether haven't dissipated, but the trees and other wildlife have adapted to deal with higher temperatures and higher concentrations of methane and carbon dioxide instead. Think about the colors of the plant biomes in the Nether: Red could indicate a higher iron content and blue could indicate a higher copper content, which are used by vertebrates and invertebrates respectively to transport oxygen throughout their bodies. Perhaps some chemical reaction akin to photosynthesis where instead of using solar energy the plants steal geothermal heat from the environment to break down carbon dioxide and turn it into oxygen can be used to regulate the environment.
I do think he needed to be clearer on how the greenhouse gases might have actually worked, but I think the science holds up.
Did you know that Ice ages go through cycles? We are currently in an interglacial period after “the last ice age” there have been 5 ice ages in Earth history that we’ve discovered.
this guy is a genius! how long does it take him to come up with these theories?
I think it's worth mentioning the ambient noises of the basalt deltas. These noises are distant (seemingly very large) explosions and a Geiger counter (way of measuring nuclear radiation). Idk if nukes are necessarily the cause, because that seems very advanced for minecraft. But it would make a lot of sense. Idk
Yeah I've always been extremely curious about the radioactive element to the biome
Well, back when the nether update was being made, Mojang did confirm that the Basalt Deltas are a result of an ancient explosion of some sort. So you may be on to something there.
interesting fact, in education edition when you break down redstone you find that it has uranium within
@@noone-fl3eqLOL WHAT REALLY
@@noone-fl3eqidk why but i find it really funny that i might have given steve radiation poisoning
This was a fun little theory
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It makes more sense when you realize most nether mobs are hostile. They all attack you because humans destroyed their home. Striders are the only peaceful mob because the humans made the nether hot and then lava came in. As we know, striders love lava.
The Greenhouse gas effect is caused when the sun shines heat down on earth. The greenhouse gasses prevent the heat from escaping to the upper atmosphere and radiating off. This means that even if there was too much CO2, it would not get hot because there is no sun because of the layer of bedrock covering it. If anything, they would suffocate because of the O2 displacement.
Also, can u plz do a video on the lore of Risk of Rain 2?
Matpat: minecraft is about living in harmony with the world
LukeTheNotable: **sweats profusely**
Yeah lol a fan of him
How is that true
2b2t:
5:44 TAKE THAT BACK RIGHT NOW ICE AGE IS A CRACKIN SERIES
Im sry
crackin?
Hey Mat, I Have a Theory for you.
What if the Builders created Blazes like they did Creepers. Cause the Mechanical “Breathing” of a Blaze just makes it sound like gears grinding. Maybe they were first built as Sentries? Or maybe they were the Builders first AI that backfired?
BTW, on your illager theories, there's a few interesting things I noticed. First of all, Both mine craft spin-offs portray illagers as a race of warriors, and Also the way that Evokers attack, Fangs. If you look closely, The evoker fangs look like they are made of rotting flesh. Grey and chunky. And considering that Illagers are toying with life and death and have tools to gather extra souls, and are using soils, which means they are clearly harvesting them, It's likely that the Fangs are how they are using the leftovers of the stuff they kill for their souls.
Not gonna lie, the thought of the nether being frozen is wild since the dimension is equivalent to hell but the thought of it used to have water there is even more wilder. This series of theories provide such an interesting lore.
yeah but the argument of how it ended is.. very dubious at best since matpat doesn't respect the laws of thermodinamics by saying "oh it just got hotter in a closed system" meaning energy was created from nowhere. If you have two tubes with different air constitutions and a heater in, in a perfectly closed system, both would have the same average temperature at the end... So yeah the other guy would have done a better job on this vid since mat casually violates some basics of physics
@@warbrain1053 FINALLY, you got it too right ?
+ green house effect has to be in a system with an atmosphere and just when it has that it can have gases to block the sun and keeping the temperature rising, and as far as we Knowles there us no sun beyond the nether roof
@@kakioualy3256 yeah and it annoys me. it is like just giving out an interesting theory then drawing it back to climate change when it isn't and just makes the entire video worse.
There are a few logical explanations that would have happened without the builders but they aren't as dramatic and *don't involve builders*. It would be better if he would give multiple options instead, rn it is meh.
@@warbrain1053 Since you mentioned climate change, I'm going to take the opportunity to spread the word that greenhouse gasses might not even be the biggest contributor. I've only had this explained to me second hand, but from what I understand the problem has less to do with gasses trapping UV rays, and more to do with the massive amounts of iron ore being mined for "ecofriendly alternative energy and living" throwing of the earth's magnetic field so that it's blocking less from hitting us in the first place.
Well, if it is placed on Hell, then it would actually be in line with Dante's Inferno. The deepest depths of hell are the only place in existence where God's love cannot reach, and without the warmth of God's love; there is only the bitter cold of isolation and despair.
5:43 Mat cant be disrespecting my favorite childhood movies like that
Fr, almost all the sequels were garbage but he keeps lumping the first two in with them for some reason?
Oh he absolutely can, ‘ruining childhoods since 2011’, remember?
The legend is now retired. I will miss Yiu so much take care Matpat and thank you for everything you’ve done for us.❤😢
Matpat: ”Minecraft is a story of overuse of the land”
Players mining out an entire desert just to build their mega mansion:
At 9:10 ish, you mentioned greenhouse gases causing the nether to heat up. The thing is, without sunlight, greenhouse gases kinda just sit there, not heating anything up.
That's what I thought
Yes, exactly. It's not the greenhouse gasses heating the earth up, it's the energy from the sun. The greenhouse gasses just help trap the sunlight that bounces around on earth, heating the earth up. The reason they are called greenhouse gasses is that they work in a similar way to a greenhouse, where the glass lets the sun's energy in, but prevents the sun's energy, which gets turned into heat, from exiting.
Any excuse to push the climate agenda on his young viewers 😒
@@practicaloccultist231 nah, that’s not the climate agenda, it’s just MatPat ignoring logic to frankenstein together the types of “theories” he wants to tell
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8:05 idk why but this feels like a nightmare fuel
We also see those fossils in the over world too
With coal and sometimes diamond naturally attached
I feel like an ice age nether would be a very cool place to explore. Especially to see what would live there
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I want a mod of that now
haha COOL like cold
Looking at the basalt lands with knowledge of how they were formed gives me a strange sense of appreciation for them
greenhouse gasses dont just magically turn things cold, theres no atmosphere in the nether its a rock ceiling
@@nicholasgeere5125 Okay? nobody was insisting that but go off I guess
I start every one of your videos thinking, "There is no way that's true" and by the end I'm pretending like I've always known it was.
For the next theory i think i got something: the 1.20 update will add archeology, a new structure and some antique items that can be discovered by archeology into that structure, the desert temple, the ocean ruins and the desert wells.
Basalt requires fast cooling that this theory doesn't explain, it would actually contradict if the ancient builders where gathering and removing all the blue ice.
Perhaps the nether was always very hot but never to this degree, the builders brought with them extremely cold ice and created colder places for them to inhabit, rapidly cooling the environment into basalt. Either the greenhouse gasses slowly brought the temp even higher or maybe they even saw the damage they did and tried to help but only made it worse. Whatever the cause, the nether was heating up again and they couldn't mine more ice fast enough, causing there ice boxes to become depleted and leaving the nether as the hell scape we see today.
greenhouse gazes don't work. The nether can't "just heat up" if it is a closed system since it means energy is created from nowhere. I think talking about enthropy, how since it is a closed system heat between surface and core begun to average out would be more consistent. There is no way greenhouse gazes are different from normal gazes in a fully closed system, and this is misleading.
Greenhouse gazes work on earth due to an input : solar radiation and output : earth radiating heat away, making input more efficient and preventing heat from going to space. Nether has none so scientifically false
@@warbrain1053 I thought the greenhouse gasses was a pretty suspicious answer but I couldn't be bothered to look it up. The nether is heavily implied to be underground, its even labeled as dimension -1, the basement. Such a deep underground ecosystem would receive warmth from the planets core instead of the sun.
Lets say the builders brought in ice and began to cool pockets of the nether for their inhabitation. Perhaps even they would notice the mass death caused when the plants that subsisted off geothermal energy are cut off from the heat. They could have created boreholes deeper into the ground to release more of the core's heat, but this would backfire and create our giant lava lakes that cover almost the entire nether. temperatures might have previously held a certain equilibrium but with the lava now gushing up from below it would facilitate a more powerful heat transfer.
its midnight and I don't have any kind of engineering degree, this sort of thing just feels plausible. whatever holes it has arent as terrible as MatPat failing to explain how the gases would have caused heat in the first place or how the basalt would have cooled again afterwards, just to heat up again.
@@crazydud2432 go sleep bro- but yeah, and for that ammount of drilling well we have yet to see what level of tech the builders had. They seem to be closer to late medieval with some magical inventions, but boring to the core would be out of their scope. It is out of our scope
I’m confused about the whole greenhouse gasses part because how the greenhouse gasses warm up the nether but that doesn’t make too much sense as the reason they heat up earth is because they act as a blanket trapping in the heat from the sun and not letting it escape but the nether has no sun to get trapped and even then the nether is one massive cave system that he’s suggesting to be volcanic but if green house gasses heated up the nether then I think that the nether was just doomed to melt from the start
Yeah! The whole theory honestly falls apart at that point, don't know why MatPat didn't realise how this doesn't make sense. Cool theory, but not scientifically accurate. I thought I was going crazy, almost no one is talking about this here in the comments, honestly feels like a huge oversight on MatPat's side.
GHG act through the absorption of radiation, I would imagine that would work in a similar case here. Plus the fact the only reason the core of the earth is hot is due to radioactive decay
Yes, exactly. It's not the greenhouse gasses heating the earth up, it's the energy from the sun. The greenhouse gasses just help trap the sunlight that bounces around on earth, heating the earth up. The reason they are called greenhouse gasses is that they work in a similar way to a greenhouse, where the glass lets the sun's energy in, but prevents the sun's energy, which gets turned into heat, from exiting.
@@D3sol4t3Dyn4sty Ok, sure, but would a giant impenetrable bedrock ceiling already absorb radiation? It seems that “greenhouse gasses” (or MatPat’s intentional misperception of greenhouse gasses) wouldn’t really do much if the breather already was a giant bedrock box trapping in heat
@@rykloog9578 for the most part I think he's wrong I'm just trying to clear some things up. Majority of surface rocks are going to be basaltic in nature, sure water evaporates immediately but the player character would die in those heat conditions. I get it's not realistic. My only theory is that it is similar to the Archeon where the world was just forming and the earth hadn't cooled down enough for the tectonic plates to properly form. I imagine much of the heat of the nether comes from radioactive decay from the lava, well probably magma seeing as the dimension is beneath bedrock
Now I need a recap on the story of the ancient builders so far
About soul sand, after watching about how the wither was created while trying to bring friends and family back, maybe after the animals died their souls also went into the sand explaining why the wither is how it is (a strange animal monster thing) instead of a human. It's because it isn't fully a human.
Fun fact: blue ice is probably given the specific label of blue because as ice gets packed together, it takes on a blue color. The more packed ice gets, the bluer it is in color. This is frequently seen in glaciers.
8:39 I feel very called out here; I did those exact same things when the first update dropped. Farmed the trees, mined the deltas, and traded with the piglins. Even lived in there for a long while.
Hey Matpat, do a theory about the blazes. I think we can all agree that the blazes are one of the more confusing mobs
(Also I love the fact how you mentioned the fossils, I am a huge paleontology nerd and even though the fossil part lasted for like 10 seconds I still love that part)
Mat! the fossils resemble a GIANT wither, and there are some skulls and spines in the overworld and in the game files there is a file called skull and spine, when you form the overworld and nether fosills it forms a giant wither, so someone must have built the fortresses to hide from it.
Some things about this particular theory aren't quite adding up, for me. For now, though, you mentioned that The Ancient Builders came getting away from The Wither, but you can't spawn the wither without going to The Nether, so how did they get the materials to create the wither, before accessing the nether? Also, on the greenhouse effect part, I am not a climatologist, or any sort of expert, but I thought it wasn't the greenhouse gasses themselves that causes that issue, but the sunlight, and heat getting trapped in the gasses, and slowly accumulating to dangerous levels without being able to disperse. Don't quote me on that one, though, I am not an expert on that, but it is what I had previously thought. Also, doesn't this video somewhat contradict previous theories about TAB, and their presence in The Nether?
Yeah Matpat has timeline issues, personally I just ignore his timeline contradictions, let's just say The Ancient Builders entered the Nether before spawning the Wither.
That's what I thought!
Yea I'm no expert either but co2 should just make it more hard to breath since you'r probably taking o2 in the place for it.
Not heat up the nether seeing as there isent heat it can bounce back....
But yea I''d like to see him respond to this.
I thought it was already stated that they ancient builders were WAYYYYYYY smarter than our character Steve is. That seems to be the only solution.
>The Ancient Builders came getting away from The Wither, but you can't spawn the wither without going to The Nether, so how did they get the materials to create the wither, before accessing the nether?
its possible that they could access the nether before tehy started making withers but didnt live in it. i mean why would they, if this theory is correct then it was freezing and full of giant mobs and if this theory is wrong then it was burning and full of ghasts. i get the impression they went to the nether, came back and built withers and when the overworld became too dangerous, they fled to the nether just to survive.
>Also, on the greenhouse effect part, I am not a climatologist, or any sort of expert, but I thought it wasn't the greenhouse gasses themselves that causes that issue, but the sunlight, and heat getting trapped in the gasses, and slowly accumulating to dangerous levels without being able to disperse
im going to quote you and you canot stop me >:) . but to be serious, the issue with global warming is that the gas buildup allows heat to build up. the sunlight is just photons and while photons carry heat, they themselves dont emit heat so they alone arent the issue.
Maybe those fossils were of the Sniffer (the new big dino) being brought to the nether by the ancient builders. And also the ancient builders (and the player) come from the ancient city portal and came to take the Core of Life (that big structure thing from MCL), during the battle of the overworld and nether, dooming much of the harmony seem in the game. It would be so cool for the end of MCL to be devastating! Then a new spark of life comes in current Minecraft when you return, with very little memory of the past. Also players would be the ones who don’t want to take over the overworld like the other ancient builders and defended the overworld from the harm of the piglins, but we were unable to save it from the ABs. That’s my working theory. It would be cool if when we go through the AC portal, we get the advancement “Familiar”. Then bring back the Core of Life to the overworld, causing more content to be revealed, similar to hard mode in Terraria.
If you saw trailers in Minecraft Legends, there was an elephant-sized hoglin. My guess is that those fossils are extinct hoglin species if not some other unknown, extinct creatures.
No, they weren't. They're native to the overworld.
@@captainsprinkles6557 The OP did say that they were brought to the Nether from the overworld.
I enjoy your videos. I wonder if you think craft able items can reflect lore. Did the builders figure out how to return from death? Respawn anchor, recovery compass. Your destination upon leaving the end is your set spawn. All the experimentation with souls
Woah this man is using 100 percent of his brain just to solve the minecraft lore and to entertain us , respect man
Might I also add a crazy lore piece: When you trade with the piglins they have chance of dropping items but tell me why they have a super low chance of dropping Soul speed 1-3 as well as dropping a bottle of water. Now why would the chances of dropping a water bottle be the same as dropping one of the best enchanted books…. Unless water is rare like enchanted books. 🧐
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And heck, maybe that could explain why cauldrons of water don’t evaporate in the Nether; there’s something about the metal’s insulating properties or something (I genuinely dunno), that keeps the water from evaporating. Maybe the Piglins keep the water as a valuable trading item, since there would be cauldrons and glass bottles everywhere, leftovers from the ancient Builders and their trades.
@@monroerobbins7551 Even packed ice too. You can place it down in the nether. I think Matt is onto something 🧐
but water _is_ rare in the nether anyway because it just evaporates, the fact that the piglins treat it as rare would be reasonable with or without this theory (which doesnt completely make sense given the whole greenhouse gases thing)
@@aquasiox4033 well actually no because without the theory, there would logically be no water in the nether, so water wouldn't just be rare, it would be impossible to find
I love how you turned the hottest place into the coldest
Wow 7 bots that must be a record of some sort.
@@devinmessmer9632 E. No.
Ive just started watching every Minecraft Lore video from you before 3 days and finished it now
These videos are so satisfying. Will there be more? I NEED MORE
I can’t express how cool it is to see my favorite childhood game get unfolded all these years later it’s so interesting and creepy to see this all unfold
4:46 casually walking past the Warden
Im sorry but these minecraft theories are absolutely astounding, matpat please never stop making these, i need the lore to survive!
MatPat if your reading this here are some mobs in Minecraft that should have their own theory
The iorn golem & Snow golem
The sniffer
The giant bones in the nether and dessert
The images on the pots
Why you cant find jungle and swamp villager's naturally and the jungle and swamp village
The gasts
The blazes
The basten remnant
Why the warden skipped leg day
half of this list is either not even in the game, or already explained in his videos
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He did a theory on the warden when it wasn't out yet and the sniffer and pots are in beta testing for everyone to try out just set the game to experimental :T
There is a fatal flaw to this theory though. In order to create the Wither you need soul sand and the heads of 3 Wither Skeletons which means the Nether was like that when the Steves race found it and it also means finding the Nether is prior to the creation of the Wither. That being said, I love your theories and keep them coming so we can all discuss them and share new ideas about the lore of the games we love
it has already been covered by a previous theories.
the "ancient builders" discovered the nether. long after that, they used some of the resources from the nether to create the wither. Then they fled to the nether and closed the portals behind them. It is a weird timeline.
It could be that _some_ of the Nether's natural diversity was like what it is now, but not all. Soul sand being natural there, the builders used it. Glaciers being natural there compressed and scraped and ground the soul sand into soul soil. Etc.
It’s possible that wither skeletons and soul sand have always been a fixture of the nether even when it might have been frozen.
Technically there being wither skeletons does not mean the nether was already a wasteland. I mean, the overworld is a natural paradise, and yet it still has normal skeletons. Soul soil also could have already been there, it just would have been buried under the ice.
So what could have happened is that the builders came to the nether, mined the ice and the soil under it, killed some wither skeletons for there skulls, and then gone back home and built the wither. Then once they realized how dangerous it was a portion of their population came to the nether and destroyed it, turning into how it is today. Meaning the theory could work!
@@dr4-g0n94 skeletons are ancient builders, so they had to have died to create the skulls
As you mentioned in one of your previous videos, the nether was also a perfect environment because of how inhospitable it is for any sort of illness to live there. Another reason why the nether would be so important to the ancient builders
I’m probably too late but to anyone who read this, large ice sheet can actually pause volcanic activity by suppressing the volcano with their weight, this means only a small amount of heat would have to be released to trigger the first volcano to erupt and release its greenhouse gas and trigger a huge cascading chain of volcanic eruption. This happened before during the end Ordovician mass extinction. This might explain the nethers sensitivity and rapid warming.
Yesterday i found something quite interesting in the over world… 1 giant rib cage in a sandy ravine in the desert.. if you could do some digging on this i feel like you’d find it to be quite intriguing
One problem: Nether portals spread Nether blocks to the Overworld. Usually, opening the door of an oven does not instantly turn my walls into red-hot steel bars.
Then again, I've never tried it with an oven the size of a door
yeah true
Maybe the nether is so packed and overbooked so when the portals are made it explodes into the overworld