How Does This CRAZY Elden Ring Glitch Exactly Work? - The Zip Glitch Explained
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- čas přidán 30. 06. 2024
- One of Elden Ring's most broken glitches has been shrouded in mystery ever since its release. In this video, we'll break down how this crazy glitch actually works, what things affect its behavior and it's inconsistencies, go over some test data and much more. I hope you enjoy the video!
How do MEGA zips work in Elden Ring?
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Hey everyone. I released an even more detailed video on Zips featuring the manual setup, consistency improvements and answering frequently asked questions!
You can find that video here! czcams.com/video/0rycVQIBSw4/video.html
Enjoy the video and good luck on the Zip!
After days of trying to zip, I came to the harsh realization that I can't do that. But what I *_can_* do is fast-travel, back to the Roundtable Hold, walk my sorry ass to Fia, and ask her for a hug.
Watch out for the debuff though!
@@Daravae So the devs are not willing to patch this one out? I don't get it...
@@-_Nuke_- seems intentional to me. Might be lore reasons for all we know.
@@iLuvHinata360 "These golddigging hoes always got take somethin in return'" - Hidetaka Miyazaki
@@-_Nuke_- why tho? This is a bug that you have to INTENTIONALLY try to use, and it doesn't affect your gameplay. If someone want to skip something then just let them be. What you don't get here? Do anyone use this glitch to hurt you lol?
imagine you're first time playing the game, testing out the mechanics and then accidentally zipping straight to the endboss
First step, tutorial
Second step, zip to God
@@vancedaccacc9860 *Malenia Begins walking up*
New Player : "This is the tutorial?"
this is probably how it has been found
You can further increase performance by staying offline. Idk if it has to do with EAC or just the lack of loading messages, bloodstains, and ghosts, but I get a larger increase from going offline than I do minimizing all my graphic settings.
Good call. We use a EAC bypass so we technically are already offline but people that don't use this can probably stay offline yeah.
Actually the perfect time in this glitch is when Malenia goes mid-air for waterfowl dance you block and exactly when she start the attack you move forward and you teleport and evade the all attack it's incredible i feel like Minato Namikaze :D
Hey everyone. Thanks for watching! I noticed a lot of people are still confused as to how this works. Understandably.. so I am working on a detailed addendum video that will also break down manual/human viable setups. It will be released as soon as possible!
This one is gonna be very detailed so it's gonna take a little while longer. Feel free to ask any questions here if you have them!
Questions I will be featuring:
“Why” does this glitch work? / Is there a technical explanation on why this works?
“Can this be done on console?” / “Can it be done on a controller?”
“Can you only Zip using Block + Walk?”
“Why does this glitch allow for despawning bosses?”
“Can I zip to any place?”
“Will FromSoftware patch this?”
“Where can I find the macro for this?”
@@Daravae I followed the "use 108-109 BPM metronome" trick but im so inconsistent. but im persistent! I will get this
@@btaggingd5700 There's a more efficient method now which I'll also list in the next video, stay tuned!
Really appreciate the detailed explanation! It's nice watching runners do tricks and actually understand how they work
Didnt exactly get why they work/What makes it work.
@@TheAmethyz still a pretty new glitch and takes time to develop knowledge! Hopefully more is discovered as runners use it more
@@TubbyTotodile propably would need to get hands on the code to find out why that is a thing?
@@TheAmethyz I'm not smart enough for that personally lmao but if someone were to do that I feel that could explain a lot!
@@TheAmethyz We don't exactly know why this happens since we don't have the game's code. Possibly an underflow thing.
This is an absurd glitch
In about 170 hours of gameplay, I managed to accidentally zip exactly once. I was just fiddling around on that long elevator in the Haligtree (just before the room with Millicent) and zipped to off of the elevator. Fortunately I was quick with a quit-out.
I had a similar experience at some point, I can't remember where it was but I only ended up moving a few meters away from where I started.
I was wondering about this how many people have zipped by accident lol
I managed to clip a moment where I zipped backwards out of nowhere to the back of the boss room while fighting Malenia. It was immediately after my Flame of the Fell God exploded and I was convinced it was some weird knockback glitch
Don't try this on console, I've learned how to do this glitch consistently and everytime I do the zip it teleports me like 5 feet forward and never any further.
Fuck that's what I was trying to figure out.. I'm on ps5 and I haven't gotten it to work once yet.
Are you on ps5 or PS4?
@@amsbeats841 I'm on xbox series x but I would imagine it works the exact same on the other consoles.
@@soundsofapollo late reply but it's probably due to the inconsistent framerate
@@arkii8540 definitely. Same problem in ds2, the parrywalk is inconsistent due to frame rates
All that I'm wondering is how the hell this glitch was found out in the first place. It's so arbitrary and deliberate. Must have been one hell of a coincidence.
I managed to accidentally do it just trying to walk around farum Azula I’m sure If I was a speed runner I would’ve been able to recreate the process
Thanks a lot for explaining this.
I remember doing this on accident on stream with a shield. I posted it on tiktok later and people were saying I accidently did the zip glitch. I couldn't believe it. You're video explained how I did it and I might try it again. Also, this is a very well made video!
Thanks! And haha nice. Would like to see that Tiktok!
great vid very informative
Thank you for the explanation :)
Excellent explation of the elden ring zip, best of the internet
what's the current theory on why it happens? i think the values for the idle blocking animations are stored in memory in the same place as the values for the walking animation but with a different interpretation and by initiating a walking animation between the loops of the idel block animation the values aren't cleared properly and are assigned to the character movement, giving the character an incredible speed, by using for the speed value a value that was used for tracking the blocking animation
Ah that sounds amazing.
Nobody can say for sure why this works because we do not have access to the game's code. The testing group believes it has to do with passing on certain values to the next cycle of the block idle animation in a way that causes your velocity to be calculated wrong. Keep in mind this is just a theory based on what we observed and might not be correct.
My guess it has something to do with animation interpolation. Since it only works when animation loops or in other words when animation time is 0 its probabily a division by a value close to 0 and the closer you get to 0 the bigger the zip
@@tomasgarza1249 I would have guessed integer underflow somehow
Gonna have to try this out.
you are a hero!
How you guys figured out crazy thing like this, what a remarkable discovery
Waiting for the "parallel universes" reference
ZERO POINT FIVE A PRESSES
Thats the info i needed, thank you so much. With a macro i was able to do it very consistently
can you pass a macro?
me before the video: i need to find out, if i can get the last seed for the dung eater via teleport, since the sand in the capital blocks me from reaching it
me after watching the video: lol fck that shiet
Thanks for the good explanation :D
Do you know if there is a dc server for the elden ring speedrunning community?
Definitely. Was also mentioned at the end of the video but its discord.gg/SpeedSouls
This tech is so cool, it's nice to see that it's progressively getting more consistent even if its not fully there yet :D
It's not cool it's heroically sad
@@olly115 yah I’m so depressed about it, might end it all
@@olly115 What do you mean?
5:22 is where the procedure starts
This randomly happened to me today. Didn't know it was a thing XD
I wonder if any of these glitches work on consoles. Ironically the PS5 version of the game doesn’t run at 60fps, but the PS4 version on ps5 kinda does.
Can we zip anywhere on the map? or only for specific locations?
You can zip anywhere that is loaded on the overworld. Farum Azula and the Roundhold Table aren't loaded in so I guess they are exceptions.
How did you get that cool thing to pop up at the beginning ? ( the comments page that pops up reminding people to be humans! I like it. Very pro!). Is there any way to aims a zip? I have seen people use them in speed runs but I don’t see how to calibrate it in order to even attempt a speed run.
Distortion with the 6:59! New champ
Dist is a beast.
Does anyone know if it is possible to zip while blocking with bare hands or a seal? I'm trying to skip godskin duo in a weapon restricted run. ty
GTX 1660 SU, can get zips but they only move me forward around 3 tiles found below the gate in limgrave, is it very specific spots that launch you massive distances?
this is exactly what my physics teacher talk about quantum mechanic
Thanks
It is possible to do it in ps4 or is like something that only works on pc?
I got this to work on PS5 with about 95% consistency. I’m going to absolutely shatter the records, so I’m holding off on telling until I get a sub 10
Not trying to speed run but you can do it on ps5 trying but can’t do it
Were u using a controller or keyboard?
@@notatryhard1521 controller
@@notatryhard1521 I don't think you can use a keyboard on console for elden ring
How do u do it on ps5
Is zipping possible on console via controller or is it only possible on mouse and keyboard? If so what are the buttons for the controller input?
Aren't consoles running this game at 30 fps?
@@serioussam909 from what ive seen, it goes between 30-60 and dips to 20 sometimes but my main question is if it is only on keyboard or can controllers execute it and if so how
@@triforcetim1190 But you need stable 60 fps. Consoles fail to provide that.
@@serioussam909 I've yet to see video of it, but there have been some that claim they can. It may not be consistent, but it can still be done in certain places in sure
@@serioussam909 I’m pretty sure running the PS4 version on a ps5 gives a somewhat stable 60
This sort of reminds me of how I was fighting Rahdan on horseback and depending on some directions I was riding sometimes I'd get a push instead of a pull from his gravity magic. Was anything ever found on that?
No clue but not really sure if it sounds related to zips.
So mouse and keyboard allows you to have alt as a key that walks your character in the direction they're facing. While W A S D jogs the character relative to the camera right?
Controller only allows you to have movement on the stick, slow walk is executed by pushing the analog stick only slightly out of place while the jog is by pushing further, so how can I input walk and then input another movement to jog at the same time? Am I supposed to push the stick ever so slightly on beat 1 and then push it all the way on beat 5?
I was able to get tiny few feet zips but it's hard to learn the actual input when I'm not sure what that exact input actually is on a controller. I do have a USB keyboard but can that be plugged into a ps5 in order to alt walk?
PS5 running PS4 digital copy of Elden Ring stored in the SSD
Masterclass
I have a Ryzen 5600x and a rx 580 running on windows 11, I put my game on low, and the resolution at 1280x720.
After 20 minutes of trying I manage to get 2 Zip's, I was looking down btw, but not sure if it is required.
Well, I tried for around more 30 minutos and I got more 2.
But i noticed, that I only could do it close to the border of the map, and only when looking down, when I was close to more things (props, enemies, effects) I could do it actually, but it zipped very short distance, a roll distance away I would say.
My main language is portuguese, so try to overlook my lack of good phrasing, I remember programming a game in 2d, using monogame, I had this prop that I could move using the arrows, but more fps it had, faster it moved, there is a way of calculating the time passed from the last processed frame to the next, so it would use the time instead of the number of frames, that make my prop aways move at the same speed no matter the frame, maybe there is something after the animation loop not using the time but all the frames, including not rendered frames.
What I think is happening here is the fallowing, although the game is running at locked 60 fps, I think the engine is processing the other frames, most of the time it doesn't matter because is considering the time between frames, but maybe after you move while doing the defending animation there is some calculations that add to your coordinates to garantee that you are where you should be, and THAT is not bound to fps/time check, and it was make for normal move speed, where you get closer to the right spot, so it add so little (like 0.001) and didn't matter too much, but when walking it probably make calculations wrong adding way more then what it should (like 1) because it thinks you are at normal speed, and should be way further, and if your game could run at 1000fps, it will add Way more to that then it should until 60fps locked frame check that stops you.
The question is, the time between frame 59 and 60 is 1.6666 ms, how many frames normally "ignored" are adding to your coordinates to adjust you coordinates before frame 60 stops adding and put you in the new coordinate?
To test if that is true, someone should teste in different settings, if the zips farther in lower settings and shorter in high settings my theory somewhat is true.
I cant test it my computer is to slow for that, at least my GPU is.
If the computation is the key thing, the reason could be that there is less stuff on the view to compute if you look down.
I've had great success with the zip when limiting my FPS to 30. I've always been awful with timing, so "great success" is relative. Where I need 50-100 attempts at 60fps (buttery smooth frametimes) I only need between 1-20 attempts at 30 FPS.
I think even older machines are able to hit 30 FPS, so if FPS limiters are allowed then this might be an option for people with lower power devices :)
You can't really zip on 30 fps. It just gives you rather short zips.
@@Daravae Uh, no? I've zipped from the starting island literally half-way to Leyndell (I died because I was falling for too long, but it was definitely a far zip)
If you want I'll record some 30fps zips later
@@Daravae czcams.com/video/8Hljq7ww-Rs/video.html
I don't know if links work in your channel or not, so this may or may not arrive. This video was taken such that I literally started recording it after I launched the game to get footage for a 30fps zip. Ignore the controller overlay, I use a controller for normal gameplay, but zips are easier with KB+Mouse, so it doesn't show anything. I'm not sure if I used the Alt-Key to slow-walk in for this zip, I don't think I did, but I also don't remember. Hope that helps!
Edit: Looking at the video again it does seem like I did actually use slow-walk, my bad! :)
@@Daravae Lol quite strange to dismiss someone telling you they can? The glitch itself likely has nothing to do with specific framerate/frame-times -its just a matter of consistent reproduction for the user. Given the instantaneous massive increase in velocity, its very likely some edge case arithmetic underflow/overflow relating to how state is passed around. Could even be some obscure race condition if it has to do with threads communicating between the physics system and animation system (could also explain why some hardware might be more difficult to reproduce since this is entirely in the hands of the OS and very performance dependent).
I just tried to do this on my Xbox series s and I got a few little baby zips but nothing game breaking. I was wondering if anyone knows if the weapon you're holding changes the distance you zip or nah. I was two handing the rivers of blood to get my baby zips.
I hold alt and right click and keep tapping 60fps but i dont zip anywhere is this patched?
It's not patched, I just did it for the first time by watching this, but I've mostly gotten like, micro zips. I've gotten maybe 8-10 micro zips and one (1) long zip in probably 200+ tries now
Is it possible to have a macro for the use of zips?
Obviously you still need a consistent 60fps but i'm wondering about it just to mess around with it
This question gets asked quite often and will be covered in a new video that will be released very soon (probably tonight) detailing a lot more about Zips, the manual setup, macros, answering frequently asked questions and more. Stay tuned!
@@Daravae Interesting!
Hey just out of curiosity would zipping become easier if you use cheat engine to get more than 60 fps?
I haven't tried this but feel free to try this out and let us know.
I've been able to do it two times so far. Location: nokron eternal city, near mimic tear boss area, equipment: uchigatana two handed.
I think I might have triggered it more times, my character would move very fast but only an inch, which brings me to my question about:
Does the ground surface where my character is standing affect the glitch? Should I be standing on more plane surface, and should there be zero obstacles (like rocks etc)??
they cover your question in the video, yes the ground affects the glitch
Is it possible to zip *by accident*? I've had two or three occasions where without warning I got teleported horizontally a significant distance - nowhere near as far as these zips, but the first time it happened I went far enough to fall and die.
I don't see why not, it's unlikely to occur but the process definitely seems like it could happen by mistake
Definitely. That's also how this glitch was discovered!
The requirement being just walking while blocking? Definitely doable on accident
Not sure if it's the exact same glitch but absolutely. I ended up doing the zip accidentally during combat. Wasn't a significant distance though so I hadn't even equated what happened with the zip everyone was talking about.
is it 60+ fps or should I cap it at 60
I was trying to do this so I could get +25 on my greatsword by zipping to the mountain of the giants, but I don’t think it’s possible on console
I think it is but it needs to be very very very frame perfect
Does it work on current patch?
I can't believe that after all this time,
From Software still fck up on 60 FPS.
how come some of the zips have you die to fall damage and others don't?
Talking without any real knowledge of the game or the glitch but just as a random dev, the game movement is all controlled by animation and that is probably what the glitch exploits, since the animation state is kinda stuck probably on the times you don't die the game never register that your character started to fall so if you are not falling there is no fall damage
The only thing that matters is your ending position. If your ending position after a fall is located higher than your starting position (for example when doing a zip) you will cancel all fall damage. When your ending position is located lower than your starting position, you die as normal like regular fall damage would behave.
@@Daravae I really though fall damage was different since I saw some ppl saying to avoid double jumping with the horse so you don’t prolong your time in the air and kill you when you would otherwise survive, does it work different when on a horse maybe?
@@balzaque1 nope
I'm much more interested in WHY this works, why does moving during the idle block animation zip you????????????????????
Nobody can say for sure why this works because we do not have access to the game's code. The testing group believes it has to do with passing on certain values to the next cycle of the block idle animation in a way that causes your velocity to be calculated wrong. Keep in mind this is just a theory based on what we observed and might not be correct.
Is this works in any game or just some specific games like elder ring?
Works in a few games. Prince of Persia Zip Glitch is one of the more famous ones.
Jesus a metronome to help you get the Frame perfectness of it!? Hardcore! Crazy what you Speedrunners do! Love it
anywhere to get macro for this?
Do zips work on console like Xbox or is it patched
Does it work on ps5? if yes what are the requirements?
I honestly think this is only possible on pc
Does this glitch work on consoles ?
I dunno if their should be a category that allows the glitch literally no one can explain much about it. It seems so inconsistent that it almost sounds like it's an unintended problem occuring from a source outside of the game. Like tilting a Golden eye 64 cart to change it's loading. It could force people change hardware or change operating systems or something just to challenge a time. Most the time these categories that require things like that aren't allowed and the times will get pulled later.
The glitch itself is consistent and reproducable. We can explain a lot about how to perform it but knowing how it exactly works is something nobody truly knows without having access to the source code. But since its possible for most people, its better to both allow it and have a category for it since it allows people to experiment with an underdeveloped and undiscovered glitch and potentially learn more about it. Zips are also consistent enough to be done in its own isolated category which is the case right now. Only 1 out of 6 categories allows using Zips and that is Any% Unrestricted. Meaning people that dont like it or cant get it to work can run other categories without Zips.
Drinking game : Take a shot everytime you hear “zips”
Does anyone know if this works on consoles too or only PC?
Does this work on console?
thx
And consoles ? Does it work on PS5 ?
Guess with this being exclusive to 60fps, we can get rid of the goofy in game timer that stops for loading screens due to "varying levels of hardware" now eh 😅😅
No?
Can you do this on Xbox series s?
Zips hmm... ya i cant even parry right😂😂
great video! what causes zips though, like why do they exist?
Is this able to be done on console or is this only a pc thing?
Following for answer
It can be done on both console and PC. Although console should be even more difficult due to some systems having more unstable game performance such as the PS4.
@@Daravae Thats good to know. I play on ps5 and will try it playing with optimized frame rate and see what happens. Thx for the reply!
Why does it say while slow walking? How do you press a movment key while slow walking?
To be clear: You press a movement key while holding the Slow Walk button.
Does this still work? I got 32gb, i9-9900k and 3070 so I think my frames would be good in order to perform this but everytime I’ve tried it doesn’t work
Yep.
Look at my "How to Zip" video to discover some useful tools that will help you to Zip.
I was able to do a zip on a GTX 1080 with a Ryzen 7 5800x CPU
Is this possible on console?
What happens if you block and move at the same time? Would it work or no.
Bruh he said it has to be frame perfect. Do you think if it was as easy as that he wouldn't have discovered it?,
@@georgethommen5434 Yes, but he also said that it's inconsistent.
@@ArjunTheRageGuy it incosistent with perfect timing
How do you survive the fall?
Watch the follow-up video I made. Its explained in the FAQ in the end.
How do people even discover these glithces is beyond me.
they don't go outside
Well i think a part of it is the community. Everybody who plays a game usually encounters some interesting things that most likely aren't exactly intended that way. Some people might just ignore it but especially people who speedrun games pay more attention and they share that stuff somewhere.
So i am pretty sure most of that stuff is just accident but it needs just one person who then shares it somewhere.
@@markcaruso9040 Imagine putting others down because they’re better than you at something
@@MrTacoMan123 i'm not putting them down and they are better than me at it i just go outside
@@markcaruso9040 okay then go outside instead of crying about it? Lmao
Can you zip with ps5?
Can this be done on console? I'm on a ps4 and I can't seem to do it but I'm kinda confused on the idea anyway and I holding walk and block at the same time or tapping walk and block and holding block?
Console works.
@@Daravae No it doesn't. If you claim it does, prove it. It warps you 5 meters or so. This glitch does NOT work on console whatsoever.
I just scared the shit out of myself by doing this by mistake.
Does it work on ps5 ?
So with the fps needig to be consistent, would somebody be able to do this on a console?
Now really who in the hll found out how to do this?
still work?
So, its like a super power bestowed opon us by an understandable eldritch god, so anigmatic infact that even the power itself can not be fully understood
Is it even possible on a seriesX?
Can you do it on Xbox series x?
Works with Console? Or just PC?
Console works.
Do we know why it works ? What causes the bug ?
Yeah I can't seem to find a video on WHY it does this, just that it does. Seems like a strange leap from doing these motions to why it forces you to teleport in a direction.
Can you zip with a PS5 controller?
What does it mean after a window of 129-135 frames , what frames??
Смотри, могу ошибаться, но вроде так понял.
Есть стабильные 60 кадров в секунду. В игре Elden ring вроде стоит ограничение, то есть больше 60 не получиться.
129-135 кадров это значит 2 секунды и 9-15 кадров сверху
Can u zip on xbox?
Does anybody know if it's possible to zip to the mountaintops of the giants from leyndell or anywhere else? I want to circumvent the Morgott fight so I can continue to summon at Leyndell for PvP.
Probably with a Mega Zip from Leyndell, or even from Altus or somewhere along those lines.
@@Daravae thanks! I've looked into it and found that it's possible now I'm just trying to figure out if I can do it on PS5. It seems you can't lower the quality settings? It should be running at 60 consistently I would think but idk for sure.
unlocked framerates certainly can open pandora's box
What is micro zip? What does it look like?
A Zip but only teleports you a few feet.
Since this requires 60 fps, I'm assuming it can't be done on PS4?
probably not
A glitch harder to do than beating the game blindfolded.
One of the best gltches in speed run history
Is this pc only