San Francisco leaders in heated debate over plan to fund new police recruits
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- čas přidán 6. 11. 2023
- City leaders are in a heated battle in San Francisco over a plan to fund new police recruits and fully staff SFPD. Thom Jensen reports.
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More police doesn't change ANYTHING if the Attorney General keeps letting criminals go
Yeah buts it’s a start, fix the police system and fix the DA office, but you need both not one or the other. The city definitely needs to address its progressive criminal justice system if it wants to enforce rule of law and reduce crime.
@@np494609ha I wouldn't live there its a shit hole
Plus those police would be regarded as the enemy by the local politicians and they wouldn't get the support that they need.
They need to stop paying these dope heads $600 a month on cash aid and use it for the police force.
Look up S.F. HARM program. Is this how law abiding citizens want their tax dollars spent?
Defund the nonprofits for the homeless
These clowns are in total denial about the collapse in revenue for 2024. Property taxes, business licenses , sales tax, etc are going down, down, down. The days of overflowing reveneue and taxes, taxes, taxes are over.
@@JonSobieski yes it is , sf is forever doomed
And audit them all. Find out where that millions-billions of $ the tax payers have given them went.
Why?
Psychopath much?
Defund SF Supervisors NOW… they do nothing… Do nothing complainers
I thought that was the CZcamsr commenters
SF paid taxes on those public services. They defunded those services and why are people not reimbursed? Seems like fraud to me especially when they are proposing new taxes.
starting wirh weiner and arron
Those supervisors have outrageous salaries too. 400-500k. Just robbing the taxpayers.
Stop waste money on homeless
Then what do u do about the homeless?
You could have 5,000 officers, but that won't matter when SF DA's just let criminals go.
Stupid response. SF isn't like Oakland
It's not just the DA but the attitude of the activist residents. What's the point of 5,000 officers when entitled thugs like Banko Brown getting shot results in loud protests?
SF DA is actually prosecuting, the issue is now the Judges. This is a different DA than the previous one.
Yea I wouldn’t want to be pig. Job sounds so stressful. Then people want to lock you up when you shoot someone when you’re just doing your job.
new DA, she's a hard@ss. No more get out of jail free cards from the DA office at least. Criminals have to rely on the bleeding hearts of judges
Lol, i love it. Keep spending hundreds of millions on giving homeless drugs. Keep raising taxes, keep raising rent, bridge toll, gas prices. Soon it will be a city of homeless.
They need an audit... Where did all that tax money go they had for the year? I bet there's BS spending they could find, if they looked that is, that's funneling money to friends & family in pet projects. Like most big cities, always straight to increasing taxes instead of balancing a budget and reallocating funds SMFH
the phrase 'tax and spend democrat' has never not been true.
This is coming from someone high up in the Department. It's not the number of Cops we have on the streets. It's the number of criminals let go with court dates or ankle monitors by the courts.
sorros ?
Over 1200 applicants and 300 have no arrest but only hired 15-20 and I only 1-2 females, which means 90 percent with no criminal records are not good enough for SFPD. The eligibility list is public info and you can see the names of the 300. They come out with approx 100 on each list each month and hire from a pool of 3 month back log.
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SFPD will lower the bar. The bar has gotten lower over the last 20 years.
@@raygordon3728 Are you ready to apply and fill the void?
Where can I see this eligibility list
You can have a cop at every house in San Francisco and the crime will still be the same if not even more. It's not that hiring more calm. These people have just can't realize that we just have a culture that creates criminal sympathizers that allow crime to go without the accountability. No consequences
This is gonna be great, SF did this to themselves and i enjoying watching the free fall. Buckle up everyone!
we can’t wait 5 years !
we need more officers now
Nah. I don’t want to see any at all
Realistically it’s going to be 15-20 years for them to have a full staff with 8 people going through the last academy class
It doesn't take more tax dollars. Just use the money being wasted on the homeless addicts.
Isn’t property tax supposed to pay for police? That Ahsha council man sounds funny when he talks fiscal responsibility 🤣
Yes. How-ev-er..., that is after property taxes pay for housing, feeding, and educating illegal aliens, hiring more school teachers, and paying reparations to black residents. In other words, lack of fiscal responsibility for the day-to-day needs of the residents already here. JUST SAYING...
Typically. Sometimes it’s a bit wonky and in a place like San Fran I bet it is a bit wonky.
These defund the police fools are now crying for more cops and taxes. Zero sympathy
Especially when they were supposed to say, "demilitarize" instead of "defund", but asserted people couldn't understand the more accurate term, too afraid to bring educational standards back up.
This isn't specifically the crowd that wanted to defend the police but your overall sentiment is correct. There's no point to police if all they do is catch and release with no penalty.
So they went from defund to please come back. Why would any young person want to work there?
Did you think socialism was going to be fun?
Return the funds from the groups that gained from defunding the police… Just return it.
Reduce money given to nonprofits and give it to the police. There you go
Without safety, there's no prosperity. Bye bye SF.
This is not the answer.!! We need to make tougher laws , on crime theft, drug sells and or drug use. Honestly we need to consider what other consider what other countries are doing to prevent such crimes.
Laws are there, could they be tougher? Maybe. But we need the the legal system to be tougher and the "resources" to back them the judgements.
Someone should be investigating where all that money from defunding the police has gone to. Because it clearly hasnt been used to help the homeless or treat drug addicts.
Once upon a time i was a vendor downtown SF, some “teens” stole my tip jar. SFPD officer who was right there asked me what I wanted to do about it.
yup, they are hiring new SFPD police cadets from the Academy of San Quintin...... they been trained with guns, knives, and they know the dangers of gun fights.
SF pay the highest cop salary in the country. Violent crime is exceptionally low compared to other major cities. I mean look at the stats on Miami. 😳 it’s expensive to live in SF but it’s beautiful and the weather is great & tons of stuff to do. They need to recruit better.
Keep voting in those Supervisors and Mayor. Started with Newsom, Lee, now Breed. No Sympathy.
Lee actually spurred on the tech boom in SF. For better or worse. Obviously he had his own corrupt side while in office.
lol they still haven’t learned. The whole dept should resign and leave them with out any police.
People are getting taxed too much already. They should cut funding on unnecessary services.
Here’s an idea, they could probably afford another 30-50 cops right now, if they cut city officials pay for those making $250k+/yr! There are so many city workers making crazy money and doing the minimal. You can slash London Breed’s pay by $125k to pay for 1 new officer, and she’ll still make $375k/yr for sitting on her ass and later tell everyone she’s working hard in front of the cameras.
yep
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They can’t even hire 30-50 cops lots of applicants many of them would be good but they’ll fail at some point throughout the process like psych because of one shrinks so called experts subjective opinion. Losing a lot of good candidates. It’s going to take them 15-20 years to get fully staffed at the pace sfpd is going
Defund the Police not working for younguys? Whose stupidd idea was it?
You know it’s sheetie when they have to DEBATE on funding the police department. What a joke!
I swear gangsters in 2023 are the new equivalent to those dudes who can't stop wearing disco clothes in the early 2000s
How about these people forfeit their pay until the city is clean and safe for the people who live and work here!
Where did the previous tax revenue go that was dedicated to police before the police shortage?? With such fewer officers that money from their salaries went somewhere. Someone redirected it it who and where? Why would you need a new tax because as we all know our taxes have not gone down when the police shortage happened.
Change the laws. I feel like law makers are trying to cause chaos and drive businesses outta cities and towns!
San Franciscans can help, lets all move out of city, police staffing crises solved!
How bad is the crime rate in SF? I work in the Fidi area and frequent North Beach and Broadway. They removed the homeless encampment in front of the Ferry building. The only crimes I hear about are the car break-ins and the random crazy homeless guy.
Why more taxes. The COPS don't do their job. LOOK AROUND.
Maybe if they stopped paying violent criminals to not reoffend they could pay the police to actually stop them from reoffending.
Don't we have 2 million Illegal immigration in this state ?
I wonder how many cops we would need to get them all out no point in more government employees when they don't inforce the the laws on the book and only keep the rich parts of SF safe ect
Since the 1980's Billions have jumped into America and Billions more keep coming here. Even if we were to build a wall. It's too late because all of those Billions of illegals had a Billion more Anchor babies. Now America is mostly allll illegals who have become citizens now. That means that all of our great grandchildren are all going to be Mexican in the future. They have overpopulated the USA.
happy i moved out of SF back in 2000, I only go to SF unless I really really have to
What happened to the extra $$$ saved from the Defund the Police? Use that to refund the police.
76% of all crimes are not prosecuted. Minor crimes and offenses are completely ignored. Drug-related crimes also do not get to the court... So.. yeah...
How's the new budget planning going? smh
Keep people in jail
good luck in getting qualified people. it takes alot to look for the right people otherwise you're going to get bad cops. get rid of supervisors first.
No additional taxes. They have funding, buy don't want to look. Stop spending on stupid things. Alcohol, phones, dogs, etc for the homeless.
Thanks Matt
Most people who want to be a cop already left the state to a better states where the laws don't favor criminals.
The problems here is there are no adults left in charge just people with feelings and ideology before the laws.
Form Militias or invest in a bat light
We need more bandages! These people have never root cause, containment and corrective action. They think their containment is their corrective action. So sad
Tell the ones who are against it to let all the druggies and bums live outside their homes. Then tell them they cant use the police
SF did 25% of the job and decriminalized drugs, but refused to do the rest of the 75% job.
There are a lot of frustrated people in the comments. There should be a lot of money from all the police officers who quite out of frustration. Just stop funding safe needles, Narcan, citizen intervention teams who replaced some of the police, pickle ball courts where the farmers market was and use those funds.
Don't spend more on funding police, and let the crime rates skyrocket.
Good to see. The exposed
cant even support new batch of PD. how about you stop wasting money on other programs that are bloated.
They have $5M x 50k, use some of that
SF funding priorities are all screwed up. Public safety (police & fire) should be first. All the money they're spending now on "revitalizing" the downtown and all the other 'feel good' stuff should be put off until they can actually afford it. If residents and merchants don't feel safe they aren't gonna revitalize anything and for the most part tourists are going elsewhere as it is after all the bad press. Just look at the current event at Moscone - all the food is being served on-site inside a huge security zone so there's no reason for attendees to to even leave the venue, this is a big loser for local businesses. And quit throwing good money after bad on all the hobo problems. Hire enough officer to properly staff SFPD, nothing can flourish until crime and the endemic doper/tweaker problems are addressed.
They can't figure out that prospective law enforcement candidates just don't want to work in a city that doesn't support law enforcement?
If it pays higher they will. People will kill themselves just for money 💰 💸
Why eould anyone go to eork for a city and democrap leaders that do not have your back ?????? Let them sleep in the bed they made !!!!!
So why didn't the person who said the following get more airtime? "The needed tax money will come, as otherwise victimized retailers stick around, and expand operations to fill voids, thus hiring more workers...and we all know about the Multiplier Effect from studies in middle school."
You can find more police recruits but how many of these recruits will actually make it through the process many of the recruits will fail psych due to one so called experts subjective psychological opinion. And if they make it through that process how many will actually complete the academy. Then for every new recruit you get you’ll get 2x the amount of officers retiring. Also you’ll be wasting all this money through each recruits process when psychologist fail perfectly good recruits. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure this out with all these dumb city leaders.
So how is that "Defund Te Police" thing working out for you San Fransisco? It won't matter how much money you come up with now, no Officer will want to work for a city that doesn't support them and have their backs.
Who's the idiot that doesn't want more police? SF is unsafe, this isn't a perfect solution but it'll help.
New tax dollars and there will be no new improvements
The confused are beginning to wake up & realize? 😄
"Leaders" they say when they are public servants. You serve the people who paid taxes for those public safety services. You defunded and committed fraud on taxpayers.
Defund the police #BLM
Ear mayor and da watch streets of sf 1977 Mark Hamill guest episode that had juvenile crime problem and were tough on crime to stop future crime teens tried as adults
😂😂😂😂
Stop Wasting Tax Payors Money !!!!!! $$$$$$$$$$
Yeah, they should spend it on education and send you back to spelling school.
I mean they’re already overpaid Law enforcement in general shouldn’t be a high paying job
Hold All Police Law Enforcement Accountable For Their Action !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Biden does not approve this!
How about holding everyone accountable for their actions? Or would that be racist?
Who are you going to call when your scooter gets stolen? Your wokester friends? You comment is beyond reality.
You don’t have any police to hold accountable…..they left and went to places that valued them.
Spend $$$ on people, not more incompetent 🐷🐷🐷
Defund The Police !!!!!!
Defund The Police !!!!!!!!!!!
They did. How'd that work out fuqtard?
No Cop Is Above Law !!!!!!!!
Are you mentally ill?
Cops hiding out , drive around the city you don’t see a one……. Then they go on disability full pay after 5 years🤡 💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵
14.6 BILLION WITH A “B” budget for a city 42 sq miles a rather small city but with a HUGE BUDGET asking for more 💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵 Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
To whom much is given much is expected. Who is running the show 👑🏰🏎🚁🛥🛩🤑
No Cop Is Above Law !!!!!!!!
Defund The Police !!!!!!!!!!!
Get a JOB, Glen. Your word for today is J-O-B.
Defund The Police !!!!!!!!!
Ha ha ha ha ha
Defund The Police !!!!!!!
Defund The Police !!!!!!!
Defund The Police !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Biden says NO!