We Drive 800 Miles in the New 2019 RAM 3500: Here's How Fuel Efficient 1000 lb-ft of Torque Is!
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I feel like 15 mpg for an empty diesel is pretty terrible. I guess society can thank def and emission systems for that.
It has 4:10 gears and a aisin transmission. And DEF isn't a bad thing, it's the EGR AND DPF that hurts you!
Try driving a 18 wheeler and see I get like 7 to 8 mpg to the gallon
Darius Hope Thats actually pretty good for a semi.
exactly
@@JohnDoe-nz6bk Well, even my 2018 GMC Sierra 3500 crew cab long bed gets 12ish mpg highway with a 4.10 rear end with the 6.0L gas engine.
I just got a new truck a couple weeks back and thanks to your channel I was more informed on the trucks then most of the salesmen at dealers!
You guys are so lucky to get to drive that brand new Ram 3500.
For that price they can keep it
ricky safer I ordered a longhorn edition 5 weeks ago. It’s on the train from Indiana to Houston now! I’m excited to get it. 3500 dually longhorn edition with the 12” screen! I’m excited. Time to trade in my 2017 3500 dually
MountainDrew hauling
BRO SKI so, hows the truck man?
Man that's a good looking truck.
It is, but I'm not a big fan of the large computer screen inside
@@campbell0162 Only the Limited comes standard with the 12-inch display, every other trim comes with a 5-inch or 8-inch display as standard.
@@campbell0162 Well it is optional, you can still get physical buttons, if you wanted.
I’m a Ford guy usually and I agree, Dodge is really stepping it up lately.
I think RAM makes the best looking duallys. The fender flare on the Ford dually looks like it was tacked-on as an afterthought.
thanks for doing HD fuel economy while empty, I've been really curious about fuel economy numbers on HD's.
I drove 1,600 miles yesterday with my 2019 ram 3500 Cumins wile pulling a 10,000 pound camper and it did great! I’ve never driven a better pulling truck before! Props to ram on their amazing trucks!
Another good video guys. I live about 40 miles from Green River where you checked the mpg on that beautiful Ram 3500. I wish my 2009 Dodge Ram 3500 dually diesel got that good. When not pulling my trailer, I average approximately 5 mpg and pulling my big trailer, it averages about 2 mpg. It takes me two tanks to make it to Las Vegas from Green River, when pulling my 38 foot trailer. Pulling my trailer up Spotted Wolf on I-70 , you can actually watch the fuel gauge move before reaching the top. The truck has 4:56 gears and I've had it at the dealer and at independent diesel shops literally hundreds of time complaining about the mpg, but every one tells me that it's normal.
So... this new 2019 6.7L 1-Ton diesel (with 1000# of torque) gets just about the same mileage as a 1500 Half-ton Ram with the old 5.9L gasoline engine and a 1/3 of the torque. Pretty impressive, really.
Mic when you say it like that it is pretty impressive
Apples to oranges. This is a diesel from the sounds of it it you are comparing it to a gas. A diesel 1/2 ton gets about 30 mpg, about twice as much as the Cummins.
I am, but that's the point. I still own my 2001 Dodge ½-ton 1500 with the 5.9L V-8 and it gets ~14 mpg. Has since new. This 1-ton with >2.5 times the torque does the same or better (mileage wise) while able to do a LOT more work. To me, that's remarkable. I also own a 2015 Ram Ecodiesel which gets 29+ mpg. But it has < half of the torque of this 1-ton.
A turbo diesel is way more efficient than a N/A gasser👍
Agreed. But, unfortunately, in my state the Legislature is going after diesels of all kinds, sans off-road and farm-only vehicles (tractors) to punish the owners of them. Oregon wants to essentially ban all over-the-road diesels in the name of Climate Change. What a pity if they get their way, and I don't see much in the way to stop them.
You should do an High Output Cummins vs Standard Output Cummins Mpg loop.
Correct me if I'm wrong but only the 2500 comes with the standard output Cummins.
Wouldn't be a fair comparison because while they're both in the Heavy Duty class, they're two different types of trucks, it's obvious the 3/4 ton will get better MPG results.
C.T. Productions 3500 models equipped with the 68rfe have the standard output Cummins engine. You have to get the aisin to get the high output.
@@WeatherxCalipha 3500 also gets the standard output. The output is based on what transmission you use. 2500 can only use 68rfe(standard), but the 3500 can use the 68rfe and the AISIN(high output). Standard output would get higher MPG, because it uses a higher compression ratio, because it uses less boost.
Standard output would get higher MPG, because it uses a higher compression ratio, because it uses less boost.
@@abramar123 Oh, I see.
Hi guys if you want to average the MPG, please take into account the mileage. In this case both MPGs being close it won't change much. Your work is great keep at it!!!
I’m surprised you two didn’t make a detour through Moab with that! Imagine that thing on hell’s revenge! Awesome
Good job, that’s a long drive. I can’t wait to see the mpg on the 3/4 ton diesel (little less weight and power) as well as the mpg on the new 3/4 gasser w/8 speed.
15 mpg in a new truck with emissions, winter fuel and temperature, up to 80 mph, 4.10 rear, and crossing the Rockies. It isn't terrible IMHO.
Our 2012 f350 6.7l powerstroke averaged 17 7-18mpg bone stock. But you don't buy a truck for mpg so it's not a big deal lol
Better than an H2
Gotta delete the truck and it’ll be like 18-20
@@brandondannys-menary3678
What gears do have?
My personal best in my 2012 3500 single wheel 4x4 Megacab is two trips to St. Louis from NW Indiana right at 15mpg hand calculated. 3.73 gears, cruise control at the speed limit. One trip was all stock, the other was with 100hp tune emissions intact.
Now that's a good looking truck inside and out. Nice review
Not bad.my 2018 ram 3500 empty giving me 11 to 12 mpg with towing 30000lbs 8 to
5 mpg.i really love the 2019 model.i can’t wait to get one of them.
Wasn’t really a fan of Rams but I really like this one.
Same 100%
Klaus Van Heusen gotta keep in mind they didn’t have the emissions they have now
My 2018 F-150 5.0 averages 12.1 MPG's under normal driving conditions this Ram is awesome
You must be heavy on the gas. My 2017 5.0 averages 16.5 MPG combined.
no way your getting 12.1 do hand calculate not what's on your screen
Red light racer.
My Ram with the Cummins improved by about 2 mpg after putting about 15,000 miles on it. I trailered my Jeep LJ from KS to Moab UT and got 13.8 mpg average with my 14 Ram 2500 CC 4x4. Non towing I get 19-20 mpg hwy.
The Cummins take a lot longer to break in, if you don't tow with it.
U guys do a great job! Thanks for sharing!
I guess if ya' gotta drive all that way just to find some, "Beaver Tacos", you better be gettin' some good MPG... 😂🤣
15 is good to you??? The old cummins get better then that with a trailer behind them! Even turning them up to the "claimed" power rating this thing has.
Nice review. My friends that own Ram trucks with the diesel engine have told me that their trucks mpg improved after 15k to 20k miles.
Actually mine Got worse After 20 k .Only getting 10 mpg locally Hauling trailer And 16 mpg Emty on highway
Before 20k miles I got 12 mpg locally
Great video. Keep in mind that differences in how gas pumps flow/kick off make up some of the difference between the hand calculations and dash display. But the results are good enough to give us an idea of what to expect.
What’s a road trip without beef jerky!! Thanks for the vid, damn, you guys looked exhausted!
They need to have a 48 gallon fuel tank on the new Dodge Ram 3500.
Just go to Titan and put a 90 gal in the bed
Buy a slip-tank.
F350 has a 48 gallon.
Just buy a 4500. 74 gallon total between the tanks, better brakes, stronger axles etc....
Does Dodge still make trucks?
My '03 Silverado 1500 gets the same mpg empty with only me driving.
I need to upgrade soon!
visually reminds me of my freightliner. I LOVE IT.
I remember when I got my new 2004 Dodge dually diesel. The MPG was good but after about 10,000 miles it get better and continues to get better. New engines are still tight and need to be broken in before you start seeing better MPG.
Hey guys! I have a 2016 dually 4x4 with Aisin, I drove from San Diego to Memphis and back empty and my average was 16.2mpg . I drove from San Diego to Cleveland towing 19,000 lb fifth wheel and averaged 9.5mpg. My truck has 15,000 miles on it. I hope that helps you.
RobShutt357 when your warranty is done and you be able to take the egr out and run a tuner you will get a lot more out it got an older 2011 without egr and with mini max tuner and I get a little over 20 mpg at 65 mph
What rear end ratio do you have in that truck?
Great video and I’m glad I’ll keep my ‘03 7.3L. Took a trip from California to Texas. Never went slower than 75 with A/C running the whole time and averaged 18.3mpg.
Im not a Ford guy but they dont make em like that anymore...the 7.3 was a monster
And that motor also has half the hp and torque and no emissions lol
Hey thats my mpg too, im between 18.3 and 19.8, depends on how much highway i hit, but with too much traffic im down to 18.3. 7.3 are so solid !
in my opinon the 7.3 was the best they ever had. I wish they still let international make their engines.
@@TheCamaro5 cause the 6.0 and 6.4 came out so well? Lollll
Great looking truck. Enjoy your videos. One thing I have noticed in my trucking time is I get better fuel mileage not getting my diesel at Loves. Interesting to see if you get better millage on this trip vs your 98 mile mpg loop.
I am on my 6th Ram diesel since 1996. Only going off the 6.7 though, they all seem to really jump up in MPG at about the 10k miles mark.
They take some time to break in, then you really see an improvement. Of the last 3, after the 10k mile mark I would be between 19-21 mpg on them. I only see 15 when towing a heavy trailer.
So the MPG tests on brand new diesels is a bit misleading on what you will eventually get. However, new, that is pretty close to what I was seeing as well.
Hey. Do you still have the truck? I'm thinking of getting one from 2019 and am wondering what the mpg is now for the highway and in the city? It will be a hauler for a RV and my daily driver. If you still have the truck do you mind sharing this info. if you have it?
You need to test a 3.73 ho aisin vs a 4.10 ho aisin mpg and towing test
It will improve as the engine breaks in. I have a 2018 crew cab Limited 4x4, HO 6.7 with Aisin trans, 3:73 gear ratio. I checked it on road first trip where I go approx. 120 miles with cruise set on 75 mph on I40, no bed cover. When truck had approximately 600 miles on it, that stretch of highway I averaged 16.4 mpg. I made the same trip yesterday, close to same outdoor air temp, truck now has 13,000 miles on it and it averaged 18.5 mpg. With the trip I made yesterday I have approximately 50 miles where I can set cruise on 58 mph once I get out of congested traffic. Yesterday it got 23.2 mpg, when it was new it was getting 21 mpg.
In fact, Cummins doesn't really have traditional engine break-in periods. Actual break-in is 300 miles, and that's simply to break-in the rear end of the truck before towing. The Ram Manual states, "A long break-in period is not required for the engine and
drivetrain (transmission and axle) in your vehicle. Drive moderately during the first 300 miles (500 km). After the initial 60 miles (100 km), speeds up to 50 or 55 mph (80 or 90 km/h) are desirable." Well, they're well beyond the 300 mile break-in recommendation.
As for mileage, I don't believe you got anywhere near 23.2 MPG on any HD truck, certainly not after regeneration and in real-world conditions. My truck's display will lie to me and say I'm getting 20+ MPG regularly, but it falls to around 17-18 MPG highway on a good day after it regenerates.
@@AkioWasRight - I have purchased a 1999 2500 new, then a 2005 3500 new and now a 2018 3500. Every one increased in fuel efficiency as I put miles on them. No matter what you believe, I just checked it yesterday after that trip. Those numbers were from the computer on the sections of highway with different speeds. But, full trip real numbers at the fuel pump. My trip consisted of 398 miles to and from, I have a lot of driving on interstate prior to getting in slow/stop & go traffic for several miles through Raleigh NC morning traffic then 55 speed limit of highway and slowing traffic through towns for remainder to destination. Then the same trip home with similar evening traffic. I stopped and topped off tank 7 miles from home on return trip and checked total trip mpg. Even with the traffic congestion to and from I still averaged 18.8 round trip with approximately 240 of the miles being around 75 mph and a lot of miles is stopped and slow traffic. That's pump numbers on a stock truck.
@@chrism2042 As far was we're concerned, that's anecdotal evidence. People say all kinds of things about their mileage. Besides that, every vehicle tends to see improved MPG as it stacks miles, at least to an extent.
@@kevins5469 They should wait for 100,000 miles to know its real mileage.
@@kevins5469 - I didn't mention it for evidence, just stating how mine changed after getting some miles on it.
Have a 2006 5.9. Last year no emmision crap. Love it . 620 lbs is plenty torque
I hope to see some good snow reviews after this crazy storm!
That MPG isn't to bad considering the engine isn't even broken it yet. Thanks for sharing Andre and Nathan.
People don't see or look how many miles are on the truck. Give it some time and the fuel economy will go up. And also winter blend fuel. Once it warms up the fuel economy will go up.
Very true, my Cummins was pretty thirsty until I had 5-10k miles on it
These new trucks don't need very much time to break in like the older motors with flat tappet cams that needed extra zinc in the oil. I think this MPG is horrible, should be getting 17MPG on the highway carrying no extra weight with a bed cover on it. 20 year old truck get this mileage.
Thanks to our government for ruining all fuel mileage... My 04 5.9 Cummins gets 25 mpg empty and 19 towing a 14k trailer
Bret Feeney uhhh.. Straight from the owners manual, if you don't tow right away to break it in, it takes close to 15,000 miles to completely break in.
Never in all my days would I have dreamed a pickup truck would have a price tag like that. I know that it's the top of the line, but my goodness. My heart doctor warned me about this
Nick Graham ford cost more
I realize all the tech in these trucks ramps up the price, along with the materials used in the interior, overall the entire trick is more expensive to make. I get sick even when I see the sticker on the base models. On a positive note how about the torque numbers these new diesels are making! My 2011 3500 srw duramax cruises comfortably with our 32' 5th wheel at highway speed. I can't imagine what the new ones would be like!
@@chriskarsseboom2200 but Ford is a much better truck!
My 97 F350 7.3 CrewCab Dually averaged 18-20 mpg empty, it had 450~ HP and 925~ lb-ft. It also had 580,000 miles on it. I miss that truck everyday. I wrecked it, bent frame, body came off frame, still ran and drove. Guy bought it, drove it home, rebuilt it, I bet it's still on the road today!
I think you meant 425 torque?
Sweet Jesus, almost 90k. Looks like I'm going to be keeping my '15 3500 for a long, long time.
Mike Murphy you don’t have to buy the loaded model
Not bad, not bad at all!
I’d just add a in bed diesel tank, 50 or so gallons.
Good job guys !
Agreed on the ACC. The Wrangler has the same issue when you change lanes. I haven't tested ACC in another manufacturer though.
$87 K...be still my heart...me owing one is only in my imagination!!!
they do have cheaper models thats just a top of the line model
You guys should Dyno it to see how close to 1000 lb ft it actually is.
Good job, guys!
Not bad for 4.10s and small tires. Wonder what the stock cam profile is?
At first I laughed because my 2018 Chevrolet 3500 HD gets 21 mpg at freeway speeds. But this route they traveled climbs up and down almost every mountain range in Utah. I doubt you could find a tougher one to test the truck. Some of the grades are 15 miles long and very steep, and they have a lot of runaway truck ramps. It's got to be the Ike gauntlet of mpg runs. I doubt my truck would do much better.
What are you talking about? Utah has mole hills compared to Colorado!
@@55afishead - you apparently haven't driven that stretch of I70. As a truck driver based out of Denver, I know that stretch intimately, and op is right. It's one of the worst stretches of road for fuel economy testing. Really a worst case scenario.
Beautiful drive though, especially in the afternoon. Sunsets are inspiring.
@@Broadpaw_Fox I agree somewhat. But when you go downhill your getting great MPG. I was just stating the hills are steeper and a lot higher in Colorado. I drive I-70 through Utah a dozen time a year and hardly notice the hills at all. Yes, beautiful views!!
That really is a gorgeous truck. 😍
very nice ride and trip . jealous ;) :) :D and Nathan is back !
You guys made it look easy, a walk in the park.
Big truck and low gears take a huge hit at 75 to 80 mph. I would dare bet 4 to 5 mpg better at 70 mph vs 80 mph.
Yeah, if that truck was cruising at 55-65mpg it would have done much better
Transmission evens out the 410 to be higher gear ratio 3.90 ratio
Great idea with the moving flaps behind the grille but all this stuff sounds like a disaster to work on. Fixing anything in a new vehicle is such a burden, that is, if you don't have to remove the cab to check the oil /s. Love the technology and everything about it but price and ease of repairability kill this new stuff for me
It's actually not that bad. Working at a dealer, I deal with it all the time. Trucks are not nearly as bad as compact cars. Trucks look bad when you look under the hood, but it's really not that bad.
I have the same truck from 2014. As far as stuff going wrong we have gone through 9 recalls, and now currently wondering why if the truck sits for a week the battery voltage drops from 12.4 down to 12, there must be some sort of parasitic draw. While moving stuff near the truck one day I noticed that the bed light came on and so did the tail lights like when you hit the remote to turn on the bed light. My neighbor came over and told my wife while we were gone that our truck headlights are on, when they went outside to look they were off. Luckily the lights are not staying on long but something in the computer is automatically turning these lights on and they probably stay on for about 1 to 2 minutes such as the feature when you're walking to your house door when parked at night. I do have a battery charger handy but another hassle with my brand new $70,000 truck, although it is 4 years old now with only 30,000 miles. Took the camper off and I am enjoying driving it without the camper for a while but I do love my arctic fox 990 camper .nice to have room to store everything you need and not have it blow out of the bed or get stolen. Getting 15 MPG just like these guys or 10 MPG loaded with the camper
Would like you guys to put it on the Dyno again. I did test drive a 2019 3500 SRW and it's amazing for sure.
I don't know if you guys are planning this, but I would love to see you do a massive head to head towing test with the 2020 GMC 2500, 2020 Ford 250, Chevrolet 2500, and the new Ram 2500! That way one video has all the information I want to know about the vehicles.
The gmc and chevy will be identical. No powertrain differences
Also no point in running the 3/4 ton.
This is my dream truck. Idc how much mpg it gets. Lol.
When you buy it do a full egr delete. Mpg and reliability will greatly increase along with a small power increase.
For $87,000 I could think of a few dozen more satisfying vehicles lol.
@@Bailey_54R that's like buying a royal blood canine and then chopping off its balls
I need it for my company.
Heaven forbid! A column shifter? Oh no! Lol
Sounds like you hate the stupid dial and button shifters as much as I do.
If something's not broke don't fix it. That stupid dial has no place in a truck. Its not like the column shifter was taking up desperately needed space. Its worked great and been reliable for roughly 60 years and it works even if you have electrical issues.
I do hate it. The TRX coming out will have a console shifter. FCA likes the design and is talking about adding it down into some of the other models. It'll be a while though if it trickles down but the TRX is 💯 getting a center shifter.
@@tommckinney3136 I love everything about the column shifter.
I'm curious if you notice what I notice in my truck. With the DPF trucks. If you work them hard for a half of tank of gas at highway speeds and then run them empty I get as much as 4 to 5 more MPG better once empty. This increase in mileage last for about 350 miles before it settles back down to standard levels. (2013 Ram 2500 avg mpg 16.9 Best ever 23.5)
Fuel economy isn't great, but isn't that bad either. The thing I'd be interested in seeing you do is put that thing on a dyno. I know those things can be effected by a lot of variables but I'd be curious to see if that truck really puts out 1000 ft/lbs of torque. Any number in the ballpark would be ok with me, even if it wasn't all the way to 1000.
Anti-Ram or Pro-Ram, that truck is a genuine beauty.
Was this a 4.10 geared truck?t highway speeds, 15 is not too bad with 4.10's.
Yes, it is the truck they used during the testing with Ram it has the MAX tow package which only comes with 4.10's.
But they didn't tell anyone what kind of revs were there at 80mph... It has 1000lbs torque advertised but at what revs? Tops HP at 2800? Tq at 1800?
@@dennisfowler1281 thanks for pointing out the 4:10 gearing. I have the same truck from 2014 and I am getting 15 MPG currently empty. If I put on my arctic fox 990 camper which is actually too much weight for my truck I get only 10 MPG. Thinking about upgrading to the Ram 5500 so I could have the 10ft toolbox bed with a backpack toolbox between the cab and the camper. The only limitations to that are the insurance could be quite expensive if I was commercial hauling. I've heard it could be $28,000 per year. Registration could be as much as 1,500 per year
Good, Especially for a brand new truck
Do you guys know when the nozzle stops after 30 seconds, there is still fuel that you can press?
I drive 2000 Subaru Forester daily in australia towing between 0.5 to 1.2 ton with tools in the back doing between 14 and 17 Litres per 100 KM (16.8 and 13.8mpg) around town and 10 Litres per 100 KM (23.5 mpg) on the highway. so definatley not bad for a big dually.
Bro I get a vibe that the guy driving the truck doesn't like beef jerky
Same lol
27mpgs Indianapolis 2GrandRapids 30s temperatures
28mpg Jacksonville 2 WaDC
31mpg Ok City to Dallas Tx
27mpg Houston to El Paso Tx
27-33mpgs freeway 60mph
18-20mpgs city driving 10-18mpg off road
10-18mpgs tow 6kLbs Boat
2015 2500 Cummins 6spd 4x4 4door Crew cab deleted 4" pipe, KN flat air filter camper shell EdgeCts2 computer
20gallon extra tank hitch
3 light bars =970watts,
Setup as 1st responder, 10,200lbs weight
same mpgs since deleted by PFdiesel.com @78k
25-32mpgs freeway
20-25 city, 10-20 off road
Avg.MPGs From 78k to 200k
Efficiency is measured TonXMiles per gallon used by scientist in the diesel truck industry.5.2tonsX28+mpg= 146TonMiles/gallon😀
Toyota Prius is 3200=1.6tX50 mpg=80Tmiles/gallon 😆
6 way MPG math calculated=
1-RAM computer
2-Garmin gps
3-Google maps gps
4-USGS maps gps
5-AAA maps Android
6-hand=4 semesters calculus
Diesel ECONOMY TIPS
1:Speed 55 & rpm 1500
2: Close Windows
3: No items on top of car
4: Make truck aerodynamic
5: Inflate tires 2 maximum
6: High rear end gearing3.42
7: Factory tall tires
8: 5-40w Synthetic Oil
9: avoid 4x4 driving
10: Remove excessive weight
11: Fuel is heavy too
12: Plan journey wisely
13: warm up engine
14: clean outside
15: Avoid RAIN
16: No aggressive driving
17: Don't over-rev.
18: Gear fast, slow & accelerate
19: Avoid idling.
20: Overdrive & cruise control
21: Ele&AC worsens MPG
22: Exploit cruising down hill
23: Avoid a complete stop
24: red>roll in neutral gear
25: Tune engine to low HP
26: Change oil regularly.
27: Replace air filters regularly.
33: Leave early Family drama
34 constant Mph=Mpg
36: avoid drama & stress
37 Park in shade
38 distance to prevent braking
39: Forced induction =MPG
41:Rough asphalt tire wear+7%
42:Use brakes to slow down.
43change fuel filters often
44change power train oils
45avoid wider tires
46avoid jacking truck height
47used tires =better MPGs
48TenDegrees=HalfMileMpg
Obama Diesel Exhaust😥 Cooker warranty expired 80k. 3rd Cooker😭 by 75K so @78k I deleted. Saving fuel & costs 10c mile = $1000/10,000 miles😀
Or $10,000/100k miles😀
So if I deleted@0, 210,000 = $21,000 fuel & cost savings 2016to2018😀
The numbers are great but I've never liked the comfort features of the newer Dodge Rams. My dad has one and I enjoy putting my arm on the door and then in turn on the center console. The door has a thin panel and I never did like it. I have an older f150 and the door panels are huge. Just a detail that I've noticed. Is there any change in the 2019 model?
I just drove my ole 2003 ram 3500 5.9 to glenswood colorado from dallas texas and averaged 20.1 mpg and with 18.9 with a loaded trailer on the way back. The lowest i got was 16 mpg on the up hills on the mountains
Yea the new trucks look more like a high priced DOWN grade!
The truck will probably get around 19mpg empty once it has some mileage on it
It will get 25mpg when some of the garbage under the hood falls off.
picard When they quit running 80 mph it will.
I have a '19 HO ×/ 4.10 gear ratio (dually pulling a 44' gooseneck flatbed trailer). My best mog empty has been 10.5 mpg. Worst was loaded with a 17K lb, 10' tall generator (4.7 mpg) Help !!! What can I do to get better fuel mileage ???
SteeleExpress@outlook.com
My 20 year old 1999 ford powerstroke 7.3 with a 6 speed gets the same fuel mileage
105Percent_American I can say the same thing as my bulletproofed 6.0, but we don't have all the restrictive emissions equipment, and even with my hot tune, am still pushing less torque. I'm wondering what the new Cummins can really do if it were deleted.
your 7.3 is not emmisions restricted. It also wont haul anywhere near as much weight and see how it compares when towing equal loads up a mountain.
That’s impressive since my old 6mt 7.3 only got 14 after straight pipe and tune
That’s good! What I would like to know now, what’s the mpg on towing with a max load.🤔
Emissions killed diesel fuel efficiency. So you put out less emissions but 2x as much. Old 5.9s got in the 20 to 25 mpg on the highway...
Yea there is no way burning MORE fuel makes less emissions total! Remember the old Dmaxs with there weed burner tail pipe? That didn't help emissions one bit it only mixed more clean air before it got out the very tail of the truck. Total was the same. About like the 70s putting air pumps to pump clean air into the exhaust lmfao!
not to mention when the exhaust filter is full it burns itself out I wonder where they think it goes then
@@ryanstuckey8677 You got that right! Then the extra fuel burned trucking them things around the country to replace them and recycle used ones ect ect. These climate change nuts don't realize most of this crap pollutes more not less lol
Not duallys
Old 5.9 isn't gonna legally tow 30k though either, nor will it be as safe in doing so.
I like my old IDI too... it's basically factory straight piped with only a muffler. But there's just no capacity comparison. If you need capacity you don't have much choice.
Everyone is comparing their “20 year old truck” to this new one talking about how it does better fuel economy wise. Try slapping all the emissions crap into your 20 year old truck and see how it does. Hate to break it to you, but if you delete these modern trucks you’d be surprised at how well they do mpg wise. Not that I’d know anything about that..
That is the first and most important thing to do to a diesel truck. Full egr delete. Better reliability, mpg, and power.
And way less HP. Hate to admit it. BUT if you don't need to haul 35000lb then you save nearly $100,000. sooooo comparing to there old truck isn't such a dumb idea.
Connor Richardson cost is a whole other ball of wax. But you are right in that you can save a big chunk of change. But I don’t know where you are from, but I can’t find a used diesel worth a damn where I am from. Either 300,000 miles or it looks like a high school kid spray painted it.
@@NuclearSandwich7 I'm from Alberta oil country where most of our diesels are all beat up and a abused lol but you definately can find some low k ones under 10 grand. But fair point.
Yeah lets kill some kids with Asthma.
I have a 2010 F150 5.4L, 6in lift on 35s. I get 14.5mpg commuting to and from work. I also put premium fuel in my truck which is nearly the same a diesel where I live. I can say... I'd be perfectly fine with trading up lol.
I'm picking up my 3500 in June and driving it back 750 miles back to Broomfield, CO. The elevation change may not be as drastic, so I wonder if the mpg's will be better. I guess we'll find out in June!
That gas tank small asf
Fuel tank buddy
CRAP mpg on the new trucks. My 2004 quad long bed gets 21 with 4 people and a dog.
Dan Sertich it’s not crap only for the reason of yes it only gets 15 mpg but it has 1000 lb of torque compared to half that on a 2004
@@anthonymarinelli1869 1995 12V cummins, 1Ton dually, gets 25mpg empty as it has for the past 447k miles. Not sure why, but it beats my 24V 2001 dually by almost double.
@@anthonymarinelli1869 Lol its crap, my 1998 12v 5 speed gets 19-21MPG and makes nearly as much torque with the AFC turned all the way up
It's totally dependent on speed of travel and aerodynamics, weight of truck, and some emissions. Older trucks usually do better on mpg because they weigh less and have less emissions equipment they have to run. There's always a trade off
something to consider: I'm pretty sure the mpg numbers that Rams display on the dash are instantaneous readings and don't necessarily show the the total average mpg
It is an average, not an instantaneous reading. You can probably set it to show instantaneous if you were curious. The average reading on the dash is for that particular fill-up, not a lifetime average (although that might be a menu item in the display).
it can show both.
To everyone saying this is a bad MPG. Their AVG speed was over 70mph. They said they had long stretches of 80mph, which is about 130km/h. Depending on where you live most speed limits are far lower than that especially here in Canada. I bet it would get 17-20mpg on the highway here in Alberta at 100km/h. In my experience trucks get far better mileage 90-100km/h than anything over.
Laws of physics state best speed is 96km/h(60mph). When you cross that threshold the effort to maintain speed or accelerate increases exponentially. They can gear how ever they want it will never change. Mpg is very dependant on speed especially with a large vehicle.
jnk26 exactly lol the shape of a truck is hardly better than pushing plywood down the highway.
@@savethe2strokes aerodynamics do help, but a truck that is 80" wide(96"@ dually fenders) and 78" tall going 80-85mph is still displacing a ton of air. Whether it's a bus(102"w x12' h) or semi of a car of low coefficient drag it will always use more energy above 60 mph. Fluid dynamics will always apply. Gas and liquids move the same way, one is far greater in density that all.
I'll keep my pre DEF Cummins; regularly hit 22 mpg empty. Thanks but no thanks EPA
Not bad for a massive truck tbh. My father in law's '16 Ram 2500 diesel will get 8.6L/100km (27mpg) on highways cause I'm pretty sure he has a 3.21 rear end.
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Thanks ! Any video about ram 3500 single wheel ?
I bet you could negotiate $15K from the MSRP, I got $12K of my 2015 2500 MegaCab. It had a Sticker of 64,420 and I paid $52420 and it was in April NOT a end of the year deal. The Higher the MSRP the more wiggle room they have. I used to sell Porsche back in 2005 and Porsche had between 10-15% mark up. That means you could sell a 911 with 10K off sticker and still make a nice profit. BTW, I average 19-21 MPG in my 2500 being all stock, I get 16-18mpg with a Carli 3-4" Lift with 35" tires
Beaver tacos🤣
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Lol i get 21 with my 2001
George Cass no one cares
I know that this is an old video, but I would love to see a run like this in all 3 competitors with the new models. Only thing that I would change is to load the bed with some sand bags or something to simulate a full load in the bed, or a trailer. I know that y’all have the loop that you do pulling the trailer, I just thought that it would be a more accurate estimate if it was a longer trip going over different types of terrain. It seems that in the loop it’s fairly flat. I think it would be a better real world estimate if it was all kinds of different terrains in different states. Just my two cents.
Let me know when they give the HD's the larger 1500 cab's instead of these left over 4th gen cab structures with cramped rear seating on the non-mega cab models since I require a long bed model.
Like the design, not sure I would trust all those electronics in a Ram though. I love my 5.9 powertrain but the rest of the truck is poor.
davva360 the new Ram trucks are ten fold better than they were when they were back when your 5.9L was made. Fiat buying up Chrysler/ Dodge/ Ram was the best thing that has happened to improve quality of the products.
Really? www.tfltruck.com/2018/10/surprise-chevy-hd-and-ram-hd-trucks-land-on-consumer-reports-least-reliable-cars-list-by-owner-survey/
www.forbes.com/sites/jimgorzelany/2018/10/25/the-most-and-least-reliable-rides-on-the-road/#80e71a452c74
The Ram dually has the sexiest looking hips compared to GM & Ford....... and I bet eating beaver tacos in them taste better too. ;)
Math geek here: averaging the MPG calculations from each fill-up a does not result in the same overall average as dividing total trip miles traveled by total trip gallons consumed. In this case the difference is very minute, but if it were a longer trip with more fill-ups at different increments your calc could be way off.
Given the driving conditions in this video averaged 15mpg, I wouldn't be surprised if this truck could flirt with 18 at sea level on a warm summer day with summer blend fuel at 70mph.
Also, I love the quirky new music choices in this video :).
80 MPH? why you driving so fast ??
70MPH is kinda fast, do the trip going 68 and 65 you will see a huge MPG gain !
Not many people drive 65 70 for 1000 plus miles. Myself and I have a Cummins usually drive 75 80 on the interstate/highway. Sometimes faster if I keep up with traffic.
@@pulvermacher80 thats not safe at alll, I have not problem drive 65, in fact im use to drive 58 to 60 most of my life,
@@Zraupp10 no shame in that! Just stay the hell out of the way.
@@nickx831 what you driving ill be sure to be -D
@@Zraupp10 Pink Toyota Yaris.
Potato chips are the ideal food to add weight. Lost 40 lbs on KETO. Beef Jerky for the Win.
I do the high carb low fat.Gained 200 lbs.
Jim Bo looks like Nathan has been eating too many potato chips 😂
Hah! TFL needs a KETO sponsor so they can lose weight and get faster 0-60 times! Although most beef jerky has added sugars making it not great for Keto..
@@darens440 They go to Snarf's for lunch.(local sandwich shop in Boulder)
On my 2017 Ram 2500 its at 19 MPG but its a 3.42 rear end and still has all the factory emissions on it. However it is a lighter truck too
Is it me or is at 8:03 that $88k truck right fog light not working? I noticed it one day on a maroon limited 2019 half ton truck a couple months ago also where I live what's the deal?
They aren’t the greatest with electronics. The dodge vehicles tend to have issues with their electronics as well.
They will be passing out free snowcones in Hell before I pay 87K for a pickup truck! And I sure am not impressed with 15 mpg either.
Maybe you can afford a used Prius.
@@55afishead Never said I can't afford one, smart ass.
@@jamesrodriquez2863 hahaha!
@@55afishead :D :D :D
poor mileage
Take into account the size and weight of the vehicle, along with all the emissions bullshit that destroys fuel efficiency, and that makes perfect sense.
Duallies don’t get the same mileage as SRW trucks, but that being said, I was still unimpressed for a straight highway / cruise control run.
@@dochollywood1921 no excuse for the trucks size 999 torque eliminates that, Maybe the emmissions theory thow
70-80mph.
No its not!
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I used to drive 04 an 05 ram diesel's cross country for a leasing company. I typically got 17 in a 2500hd daul cab short bed HO 5.9. I noticed hills and mountains had little effect on mpg. Rpm's mattered more. The higher the rpm the worse the mileage. So on leg fom Allentown PA to long island NY back to Allentown I got 20 mpg. Because the speed limit didn't get above 60. Unlike the 70 to 75 in the west.
87,000 for auto dimming headlites and a grill that opens and closes ?
All that electronics stuff may work dandy when new and clean...but when frozen slush and mud of the real world happens ?
Does anybody honestly care about the fuel economy in a Ram 3500. I mean honestly... does anybody care.
A little bit.
Super Viral Sick Vids the people who do hot shot trucking and anybody who uses the truck as a piece of equipment for their business certainly care about fuel economy. A truck that costs the same as a competitors truck but gets better fuel mileage doing the same work will be a much better investment.... even half a mile per gallon better adds up to a lot of money saved at the end of a year for a small business, and even more for a bigger business.
People who drive it everyday do, especially those who drive more than 15 miles a day.
Drew w people who can afford this vehicle can afford to put fuel in it.
I'm more interested in the range it has than mileage.