Yes you do ,what do you call the occupation of Kashmir,that is not your land ,...in fact no portion of the subcontinent is your land , because you come into existence as country as a result of British conquest,go back to school and see how many countries were in South Asia ,before the British conquered the lot of you and beat you into submission...
Let me give the Indian part of the story (narrative) on Russia relations. 1. During the 1971 war with Pakistan ( and during the formation of Bangladesh), USA sent a fleet to the Bay of Bengal to support Pakistan's cause. Russia in the meanwhile sent their submarines to support India. The fact that the USA had planned to take coercive action against India, is a very sore thumb and will not likely be forgotten any time soon. Same with the Russian support. 2. Russia (USSR) supported the Indian manufacturing sector and provided technologies for the same. There are two operational steel plants in India which work on Russian technology. The USA on the other hand ensured that such basic technologies were not supplied to India. 3. The cardinal sin, however was the support of Pakistan, against Indian interests during the teenage years of India. The USA supported the Pakistan run by army generals over democratic India, obviously due to benefits that these generals were providing to the USA. 4. In short, all this is a part of our Indian curriculum in our high school in India. While we don't hold grudges, against what happened during colonial India or early days of free India - it remains in the collective memory of Indians and it is obvious that people are sensitive to the history of the nation - we remind ourselves - " Never again". That is also the reason for non-alignment and looking out for your own country over all the "democratic niceties" & democratic alignment mouthed by such alliances. This is an argument that collective memories of Indians hold in a benign sort of way. Good to have friends but be wary of everyone's interests, including yours. Do not take any such niceties to be a guarantee against inimical interests - Be pragmatic.
India is atleast five thousand plus years old . Invasion by Muslim countries & colonisation by British in last 900 plus years has been painful experience to Indians. However, India is slowly progressing with firm footing especially in the last decade. Aspirations of Indian is high & hopes are high for India.
Atul explained India's side of the story so eloquently 👌 Problem with most Americans is that they either don't know or don't remember their own deeds or history. Even the geo political experts are focussed only on their narrative and ask questions like why is India with Russia or why is India with Iran. It's like asking why is America with Israel or with the Saudis. The historical baggage of 1971 is still vivid in the minds of most Indians when President Nixon and Secretary Kissinger sent the 7th fleet to the Bay of Bengal to prevent India from liberating East Pakistan (now Bangladesh). Kissinger also tried to convince Communist China to open up a second front against India to make sure Pakistan was not defeated. And this is USA, the freedom loving global champion of democracy that supported the Pakistani military dictator Yahya in his genocide, rape and murder of millions of Bengalis; not mentioning how arms and ammunition was secretly sent on Pakistani freighters that had come to the ports of Philadelphia, NYC, and Boston. Since then numerous sanctions were put on India by successive administrations till the the mid 2000's when President Bush changed things.
Please buddy do not even attempt to compare that garbage ,feudal and backward country that is known all over the World as the republic of starvation or lenchistan with the Great USA....
Congratulations on this podcast. This is the first podcast I have come across from the US, which takes a non bias and pragmatic approach to the way India sees the world and its foreign policy 👍
Brother Indo-Pacific is a very well-defined region which includes the Indian Ocean and the Pacific Ocean and everything in between. This region is the stage on which the story of the 21st Century will play out, which is the reason why they talk of Indo-Pacific and not only the Indian ocean. Don't limit your thinking by the lense of patriotism and getting offended for no reason.
@@abhimanyudas7621 You missed the point when u fall for these subtle propaganda. Americans use Indo Pacific, Chinese say Indo-China sea, Pakistanis say Sub-continent / Barre saghir.... all so as to avoid naming India or stating ownership to India. But whenever they see anything negative, even a Pakistani is called as Indians. Observe it if u want and make ur own judgement again 👍
The term "Indo-Pacific" refers to an operational zone for the US military. This being the case India has no business in interfering in the naming of future American war zones.
Americans are tired of all the thousands of illegals coming over the borders and taking American jobs. If India is so great, then don't come to our country and abuse or systems.
What is wrong if India becomes a 50 Trillions Dollars Economy by 2050 with a 1.5 billion Population, an incredibly open Society and a Democratic Country at that and an English Speaking one too with 3 times the combined Population of Europe and America.? An automatic Counter weight to China and Russia? Why block its rise ? Jai Hind !
They don't know anything about India or Indians and talk about it, they are happy with the protestors, illegals, thugs, gangsters, murderers, uneducated people coming into the country and taking away their rights, lands, money & people!!! eg: UK, France & EU is fighting for their existence.......
Authoritarianism of Modi , WTF ?? Says The Nation Which has Over 850 Military Bases Around the World 20 of Those in Japan ( Hiroshima, Nagasaki ) 15 in South Korea Too
PM MODI is such a dictator that oppostion of india abuses him nonstop everyday..he is such a dictator that he got only 240 seats in this election...Two party dictatorship called DISunited states of wokes and its puppet western countries talking about democracy is the biggest JOKE of this universe.
We want Modi to be "authoritian" in his conviction of what is good for India, not for America, and make sure that such good socio-economic goals achieved. In fact, Modi is so democratic and tolerant, even when badly critized and called names by the opposition parties and many people, enjoying full freedom of expression. What is wrong being nationalistic: maybe George Sores, leftists and Islamtic radicalist find it difficult to implement their devious agenda.
@@Vinay_Acharya well even Rahul Gandhi was talking about fiverse culture when he talked about Union of States or Indian Union. Words have meaning. Indian Union implies the nation is divisible at will. People have started taking it seriously when we say each state is like a country. Never encourage even figurarively, such talk. Unless you are a Leftie who revel in making India into a proposed 17 countries.
India is a corrupt democracy and that is a big shame. Politicians behave like rulers and treat the subjects like crap. Read my earlier post and be very ashamed!
@@silafaupaulmeredith7251660 million people voting 66 odd parties participating in the largest democratic exercise in the world ..the results of which we accepted by all without burning public or private property or rioting on the streets ( France recently) ..That my good sir is a functioning democracy
Do you guys know anything about India’s history? Let’s start there. If you don’t know indias journey to independence over the last 200 years, it will be difficult for you guys to understand the Indian Republic, which is based on democratic principles. I am a US Citizen, trying to grow my business in India.
What a lot of rubbish ,indepence of endia ? That implies that before the British conquered the whole endian subcontinent there was country called endia ,right,but there has never been a country called endia for the whole history of mankind ,endia is creation of the Great British people not endians ,they had 4 thousand years to become a country by they never did and never will ,why ?Because they are multitude of nations and countries that British put together and today the union is maintained by the force of the coward gunga army that got a good trash at Galwan by the Chinese PLA....
Rural india in a way more prosperous than urban india in many regions. Purchasing power of rural india is increasing drastically. Any company will have dream consumer market in india , think about in a 30 years time indian market is 5 times of american market with significant purchasing power.
Rural India has more millionaires than urban India. This is because most of the black money is invested in agriculture, which does not attract any income tax.
although you are an American citizen and work for american government and interest, I as an indian is very proud of you Atul for your intellect , acumen and articulation of india - us relationship. truly a treat. I'm quite apprehensive about the deep state in US which keeps popping up now and again undermining our success. We indians wish US well, we want you to remain the only world superpower for a peaceful proporous world.
Mr Atul such a humble , learned and insightful man…your every answer was up to the mark and was answered with grace and dignity…as a India happy to see we have such good learner and open minded people in western hypocritical society…respect for you Mr. Atul how graciously u answered the questions of the dum misread and ill informed host u wanted to talk about geopolitics of india with you but did not have a inch of knowledge about india other then what that misleading biased western newspaper like New York Times and Washington post write about india to degrade india, Indians and the Indian government..seeing the few of the questions which the host was trying to ask you like Hindu nationalist bjp and anti Modi rehotric in his questions it seems he gets fund from George Soros foundation to spread anti india anti Modi narrative but happy u answered it all well….that stupid host western media wrote Modi failed in elections was hilarious 😂 stupid host your so called Modi’s Hindu nationalist 😂 BJP got 240 seats and the dum opposition’s single largest party got 99 seats so in what sense did Modi lost that to after 10 years of continuous rule & continuous meddling of westerners biased agenda based media houses and governments intervention in Indian election as they were a party in these elections and Modi was there opponent constant anti Modi anti Hindu anti india narrative at time of election only in print and digital mode both Aljazeera, BBC, New York Times, Washington Post, The Gurdian, The Economist , France 24 , DW News, ABC Australia etc it looked like in the two months of election they were proper funded and instructed by their masters to drive anti Modi anti bjp and anti India endless campaing and misleading narrative with only anti India panelist to present just the wrong narrative and image of India but still after all odds the India public showed its faith in Modi and bjp few 30 seats sort of majority in not a big deal as the bjp with it’s present poll alliance partner has comfortably secured 294 seats which is way up to the 273 majority mark and ultimately Mr Modi is the boss…and the opposition for whom these hypocritical media campaigns for two months just got 99 out of 543 so I guess u know who is the winners and who is the loser.
Yes 100% agree with your post..actually what these people want to see is India unconditionally toying their line against Russia..Nobody disagrees that the war is an invasion but one with a very provocative back story..They want to see India push 1.5 billion people into poverty by avoiding Russian oil for its energy requirements..simple as
plenty of ABCs are completely drowned in self hate and follow western media narratives instead of presenting the Indian perspective for what it genuinely is @@aanakrukavi
As someone who is an Indian citizen working in America, I have my loyalties to both nations however, what's missing in this discussion is how American leadership has left its citizens clueless about their own mistakes viz a viz the US India relationship 1970s liberation of then East Pakistan as Bangladesh happened only when even after numerous attempts by Indian leadership and numerous telegrams by then us envoy in Bangladesh about the atrocities done by Pakistan fell on deaf years ( read up on blood telegrams named after the us envoy himself) Nixon infact sent in more arms to Pak to continue with the genocide and when India intervened, us sent it's 7th naval fleet to bay of Bengal as a threat and Nixon considered nuclear weapons, it was only cause of then USSR sending it's nuclear submarines to patrol in bay of Bengal that thwarted this attack, so clearly helping genocidal idiots in Bangladesh was a big mistake in which US, UK, France, Saudi Arabia, Jordan were all helping Pakistan with arms and ammunition. It's no wonder that such a stand by western powers in helping a military dictatorship like Pakistan caused India to lose trust against western powers. Back in 1999 when Pakistan invaded Indian territory of Kargil and started an armed conflict under the guise of non state actors President Clinton instead of condemning the attack had helped Pakistan by turning off GPS guidance for Indian armed forces missile systems, eventually India won the conflict with arms and ammunition supplied by Israel and Russia, so the fault lines never even got a chance to heal. It's only USSR and Russia that have continuously helped us by vetoing any offensive by the west in support of its all weather ally Pakistan on Indian state of Jammu and Kashmir, it's only Russia that displays the correct map of India and no other nation does it so we don't have anything to hold against Russia. As far as ukraine goes the amount of racism that Indian and African students faced by Ukraines armed forces while getting out at the start of rus Ukraine conflict was never covered by western media but only by regional media so whitewashing racism is something that shall never go down well by victims of colonization. Even when all such attacks were being conducted against Indians, the Indian gov never stopped sending humanitarian aid and in fact shall be the highest contributor of humanitarian aid to Ukraine
Lil more details on 1971 incident. Americans sent its nuclear warship into Indian Bay of Bengal sea during India Pakistan war on freedom of Bangladesh. Russia sent their submarines to deter Americans
Russia is an example of Indian loyalty to long term relationship. Save for NATO and US leadership, which benefited European security and prosperity after Second World War there is hardly any examples of long term loyalty in Western societies. Imagine how loyal India will be to western efforts, if they offer support to Indias rise like China from 1970 s to 2000. Drawing India into disputes of Europe and wish it compromise its national interest is futile. 50 Billion Air Force assets, 25 Billion infantry assets, 10 s of billion Naval assets will stand ineffective. Fertilizers from Russia, oil at discount, Atomic power stations are crucial to the future of Indian economy. And also important short term from inflation in food and crucial farm sector that employs 47 % of the population. These are NO NO with valid reasons. If China needs to be balanced India is the only sure option for the world. As time passes even more important to rest of the world. Just adding what is already known! Great discussion to understand the Indian behavior in today’s world!
It was wonderful to find a positive person with enormous understanding about feelings of Bharat and it's glorious civilization and past ancient linkages with people of other countries.. Usually we come across US characters who try to bully or threat or lecture or blabber skewed narratives without any knowledge about ancient civilizational linkages and history.... Really admirable discussion.. people without knowledge should follow and try to learn more about civilizations... Best wishes...
We cannot kill agriculture in India rural sector for manufacturing and make world grain less and hungry. We dont want to kill our environment for west like China did. We might go slow and we will have to develop agriculture with modernization which I agree. Future food is gold, not things that we manufacture.
Many Indian companies with market capitalization of more than $50 B ,with penetration in Africa, middle east , south America, east Asia,. North American and Europe will be next phase,
This gentleman, Mr. Atul Keshap (half Indian, half white ?), really knows his stuff. Through all his answers, he has displayed accurate and deep knowledge about India's history and Indian political thought process.
US & Europe need to support India a vibrant economy and all embracing age-old Hindu culture which all peace loving religions...I appreciate this Podcast for its positive and encouraging approach to India... thank you so much..❤❤❤😊
Indian government has prevented (somewhat successfully) its population from being exploited by companies from western economies. You have to understand we come from a recent colonial past with heavy exploitation memories, hence the delayed opening of the market to the world.
I agree with the commentators every view and can say he has a much better perspective than many other. I believe such podcasts should replace US mainstream media to reflect on the reality of the rest of the world instead of some sham cooked-up perspective by elite liberals (so called). Kudos to the host asking very clear questions (non-opineated) and for hosting such podcasts with learned guest speaker/commentator.
Remember ruling 60 countries with only one million officers and majority Indian's were middle armed protector for British ,otherwise it would have been impossible to rule 60 countries.
in india we need professional skilled and modernly equipped which will speed up production...a carpenter compared to us carpenter..big diff...in labor input ..missing big time in india missing big time in india
US cannot mind our own business. We dont know how to do that and be relevant. The friction point is usually when countries dont listen to us and do what we say. This way has served us well so far. Not sure if it will in the future but we will learn and evolve if necessary.
There was lot of diffirence of opinion between Venuzuala z country with US sanction but borrowed lot from Russia was troubling its neighbour Guyana. An understanding of Venuzulan oil supplied by Russian vessel solved all the 3 countries are benifited and Venuzuala has stoppef bullying Guyana which has 40% Indians who were taken there as Indentured labourers .Now guyana which has found oil , Indian are helping the country in its oil exploration . India has also agreed to build Urea plant in Venezuela and Guyana so that their agriculture grows because of the oil found . All a win win situation for every one to live in peace and happily. Similiar acts are being taken up in African Countries invluding establishing Medical Colleges /Medical hospitsls of high class where complicated surgery is performed
What ? BJP close to Iranian theocracy? How about USA close to Pakistan dictator ship? Nah, that does not matter right? You are not answerable to anyone?
Jim & Ray represent the genuinely sympathetic but often dismissive & uninformed 'Yanks' who get under the Indians' skin. Ambassador Kayshap displays an impressive knowledge of history and grasp of Asian future. People like him would have served so much better for US- India relationship than Garcetti and Blinken- too bad.
about five hundred years ago india went into a depression. which affected the whole east west trade that was flourishing at the time. now both the indian corridor and east asia are abuzz with activities. there is no major power control issues and anyone with any real interest can benefit from it. unless some have other ideas on their minds.
China will never accept lines drawn, often unilaterally, by the Brits. And 'india' which was cobbled together by the Brits is not the automatic inheritor of the British Raj. Too many agents of India here.
some times why even need so called democracy even voted government not doing much to the people who voted, i prefer dictator it he/she is in good sense, even north korea is doing really good in that sense.
US wants a level-playing field for their companies, but they will not hesitate in preventing companies like Huawei & BYD to come into the US Market. Hypocrisy at the highest.
Nobody should be excited by this GDP ranking. Even if one day India reaches the level of U S GDP, per capita income will still be less than the third when compared to that of Americans. Income inequality and spendable income will still be a less and unattractive as a future market for western goods.
US has no alternative and India has many options. India will play every possible leverage game because west always played that same leverage game with India siding with Pakistan.
Modi needs to go and we need somone in India who is humble and whose heart beats for the poor and destitute of India. Modi is pro-rich and sucks up to Ambanis, Adanis and wherever public glare is. He was even seen talking to the cricket team that came back after winning a Cricket tournament! He has not addressed major challenges: Police reforms, Judicial reforms, Education reforms. Police in India is a concubine of the political class. We have seen how it is misused by a CM (his counterpart in USA is the Governor) of the largest Indians State (Province) viz U.P. Police needs to be liberated from the clutches of the politicians and bureaucrats but who will bell the cat? Judiciary in India is crumbling. It takes 7 years or more to go for a petitioner to a hearing! Education in India and by that i mean quality education, is beyond the reach of most poor people, and lower middle class. It is expensive and here again you have corruption everywhere in the form of huge donations that the schools (private) demand.
I do agree with some points you make.. But the rest of it is just BJP bashing which honestly I don't have a problem with either but unfortunately that makes some of your very good points seem biased. On the ground things are different everytime a party comes to power in India be it the Congress before 2014 police , judiciary etc have been used in undemocratic ways against the opposition and even the people with sane voices. About modi being pro adani and ambani..yes there is some truth to it but let me add Congress banned cars above 1000cc in India in the 90's only coz the company manufacturing 800 cc vehicles has a stake owned by the Gandhi family this is one example of many.. also what makes Rahul Gandhi a PM candidate I fail to understand he has no experience in governance not even at the level of a City Mayor so what makes him and his supporters feel entitled to feel that he is a good PM candidate , maybe it's too low for him considering his family history to start somewhere small isn't it . Compassion is fine, being humble is even better but those are all human values not necessarily that of a leader always.. So I think personally that Modi is doing a good job and people trust him which shows in the mandate which is the opposite for Raga.
India is still a very poor country. I, as a naturalized US citizen, relocated to India some years ago to lead a retired life. I find it a good place for retirement but there is a lot that is not right here. Infrastructure sucks. As a senior citizen, I cannot even walk on the roads of any major city without risking my life because there are no designated platforms for pedestrians. One has to compete with the traffic! The place is overcrowded in big cities. Traffic is chaotic. There are no rules. Police is corrupt. Almost every institution of govt is ripe with corruption. When my father passed away 6 months ago, I had to pay a bribe to get his body released from the mortuary! I see a lot of homeless people everywhere in India. I see beggars everywhere. So, does it matter to me if India becomes the 3rd largest economy? No, it does not. It probably only goes to show that rich Indians like Ambanis, Adanis are getting richer while the poor are getting beaten up. Those who are excited about it can take that piece of statistics and shove it where the moon never shines!
Mr. Sridhar: Erudite people like you should not come back to India, to spend retired life. Even if I move from Chennai to a village in India, my experience or mental make up will be same. I will leave it at this.
2:51 - most Indians aren't passionately devoted to democracy and human freedom any more. India has been deeply & irrevocably radicalized by the current regime in power. I am an Indian, living in India - and I see those values get murdered every single day. India under Modi is the place where liberalism comes to die.
BJP being a hindu party in hindu majority India is great as Hindus ensures a secularism and a pluralistic society in contrast to a islamic nations where blasphemy laws , kafir hate and islamic jehad prevails ...n even a Christian states where conversion is rampantly practised n have moved from the barbaric crusaders times to the other extreme where islamic radicalisation is taking over their land n society n now right wings ideologies and red necks are becoming more prominent in USA n Europe . Hinduism which is one of the oldest religion- phylosphy believes in global citizenship n global village concept unlike the Abrahamic religions which believes in Nation state ideology .
There's nothing similar between us other than being democracy.
Big difference we don't trample upon others whereas US believes only in that
Yes you do ,what do you call the occupation of Kashmir,that is not your land ,...in fact no portion of the subcontinent is your land , because you come into existence as country as a result of British conquest,go back to school and see how many countries were in South Asia ,before the British conquered the lot of you and beat you into submission...
Do the Kashmiris agree with you?
Let me give the Indian part of the story (narrative) on Russia relations.
1. During the 1971 war with Pakistan ( and during the formation of Bangladesh), USA sent a fleet to the Bay of Bengal to support Pakistan's cause. Russia in the meanwhile sent their submarines to support India. The fact that the USA had planned to take coercive action against India, is a very sore thumb and will not likely be forgotten any time soon. Same with the Russian support.
2. Russia (USSR) supported the Indian manufacturing sector and provided technologies for the same. There are two operational steel plants in India which work on Russian technology. The USA on the other hand ensured that such basic technologies were not supplied to India.
3. The cardinal sin, however was the support of Pakistan, against Indian interests during the teenage years of India. The USA supported the Pakistan run by army generals over democratic India, obviously due to benefits that these generals were providing to the USA.
4. In short, all this is a part of our Indian curriculum in our high school in India. While we don't hold grudges, against what happened during colonial India or early days of free India - it remains in the collective memory of Indians and it is obvious that people are sensitive to the history of the nation - we remind ourselves - " Never again". That is also the reason for non-alignment and looking out for your own country over all the "democratic niceties" & democratic alignment mouthed by such alliances.
This is an argument that collective memories of Indians hold in a benign sort of way. Good to have friends but be wary of everyone's interests, including yours. Do not take any such niceties to be a guarantee against inimical interests - Be pragmatic.
Spot on👍
We have along memory
Rightly summarized 👍
Indians remember the past, but their memories prevent them from adapting to the future. It doesn't really matter.
India is atleast five thousand plus years old . Invasion by Muslim countries & colonisation by British in last 900 plus years has been painful experience to Indians. However, India is slowly progressing with firm footing especially in the last decade. Aspirations of Indian is high & hopes are high for India.
Atul explained India's side of the story so eloquently 👌 Problem with most Americans is that they either don't know or don't remember their own deeds or history. Even the geo political experts are focussed only on their narrative and ask questions like why is India with Russia or why is India with Iran. It's like asking why is America with Israel or with the Saudis. The historical baggage of 1971 is still vivid in the minds of most Indians when President Nixon and Secretary Kissinger sent the 7th fleet to the Bay of Bengal to prevent India from liberating East Pakistan (now Bangladesh). Kissinger also tried to convince Communist China to open up a second front against India to make sure Pakistan was not defeated. And this is USA, the freedom loving global champion of democracy that supported the Pakistani military dictator Yahya in his genocide, rape and murder of millions of Bengalis; not mentioning how arms and ammunition was secretly sent on Pakistani freighters that had come to the ports of Philadelphia, NYC, and Boston. Since then numerous sanctions were put on India by successive administrations till the the mid 2000's when President Bush changed things.
Excellent 👍
So very correct analysis👏
Excellent Analysis.
Brilliantly elaborated! Ta 👌🌹💐
Please buddy do not even attempt to compare that garbage ,feudal and backward country that is known all over the World as the republic of starvation or lenchistan with the Great USA....
This dude is one of the most balanced person I have heard on India.
This is the first time US expert on Indian affairs and unbiased view on India😇. Nice to see that!!
He has been very well trained by the hendutva lying/propaganda machine....
American interferences in Indian election has been a problem
And American support of terrorist Pannun
yeah and India should not justify their actions to the west. Who the fuck do they think they are?
Congratulations on this podcast. This is the first podcast I have come across from the US, which takes a non bias and pragmatic approach to the way India sees the world and its foreign policy 👍
Correction: Its not Indo Pacific, its Indian Ocean. It would be nice to have just one place in the world where USA doesnt push itself.
Pigs will fly before that happens
Exactly 😂 I was wondering what has Pacific got to do with India.
Brother Indo-Pacific is a very well-defined region which includes the Indian Ocean and the Pacific Ocean and everything in between. This region is the stage on which the story of the 21st Century will play out, which is the reason why they talk of Indo-Pacific and not only the Indian ocean. Don't limit your thinking by the lense of patriotism and getting offended for no reason.
@@abhimanyudas7621 You missed the point when u fall for these subtle propaganda. Americans use Indo Pacific, Chinese say Indo-China sea, Pakistanis say Sub-continent / Barre saghir.... all so as to avoid naming India or stating ownership to India. But whenever they see anything negative, even a Pakistani is called as Indians. Observe it if u want and make ur own judgement again 👍
The term "Indo-Pacific" refers to an operational zone for the US military. This being the case India has no business in interfering in the naming of future American war zones.
If US minds its own business, everything Will fall in place. US must stop interfering in internal affairs of India.
They can't digest India's rise and keep throwing roadblocks then expect to be welcomed with roses. 🤣 😂
The best thing US can do for the people of South Asia is to help the countries that want independence from endia get their independence....
Americans are tired of all the thousands of illegals coming over the borders and taking American jobs. If India is so great, then don't come to our country and abuse or systems.
What is wrong if India becomes a 50 Trillions Dollars Economy by 2050 with a 1.5 billion Population, an incredibly open Society and a Democratic Country at that and an English Speaking one too with 3 times the combined Population of Europe and America.? An automatic Counter
weight to China and Russia? Why block its rise ? Jai Hind !
They don't know anything about India or Indians and talk about it, they are happy with the protestors, illegals, thugs, gangsters, murderers, uneducated people coming into the country and taking away their rights, lands, money & people!!! eg: UK, France & EU is fighting for their existence.......
Lol. English speaking😂😂😂😂
@@ShikharRawat-ft6ydbc, compared to China and Russia, India is certainly a lot, lot more English speaking.
*You speak English but you are not a Christian & moreover you are not an English. Knowing a language will not reduce your melanin*
Not 2050 but 2070. Because it is predicted to be a $30 trillion by 2047.
Authoritarianism of Modi , WTF ??
Says The Nation Which has Over 850 Military Bases Around the World
20 of Those in Japan ( Hiroshima, Nagasaki )
15 in South Korea Too
PM MODI is such a dictator that oppostion of india abuses him nonstop everyday..he is such a dictator that he got only 240 seats in this election...Two party dictatorship called DISunited states of wokes and its puppet western countries talking about democracy is the biggest JOKE of this universe.
No authoritarian PM but democratic !!
We want Modi to be "authoritian" in his conviction of what is good for India, not for America, and make sure that such good socio-economic goals achieved. In fact, Modi is so democratic and tolerant, even when badly critized and called names by the opposition parties and many people, enjoying full freedom of expression. What is wrong being nationalistic: maybe George Sores, leftists and Islamtic radicalist find it difficult to implement their devious agenda.
@@venkataramamuthuswami Yes
@@MysticSage-hg3jh Americans are great people, but their Presidents are, without exception, supermacist, crazy looney hypocrites.
India has been democracy, even before western discovery of democracy. Thanks why our PM simply calls India has mother of democracy.
India is called sub continent for a reason you have to treat every state is a country of its own in its culture
Doesnt mean every state is a country. Stop saying these things in public.
@@krishnaats7141He is talking about diverse culture here. U need to read between the lines.
@@Vinay_Acharya well even Rahul Gandhi was talking about fiverse culture when he talked about Union of States or Indian Union. Words have meaning. Indian Union implies the nation is divisible at will. People have started taking it seriously when we say each state is like a country. Never encourage even figurarively, such talk.
Unless you are a Leftie who revel in making India into a proposed 17 countries.
@@krishnaats7141 WTF 😱 17 countries.!! In their dreams 😝 V might as well take back areas what's lost.
India is a democracy . That’s why it matters
Please define democracy?
@@silafaupaulmeredith7251 Nations under the Influence of Zionists
India is a corrupt democracy and that is a big shame.
Politicians behave like rulers and treat the subjects like crap.
Read my earlier post and be very ashamed!
Yu dont know how courrupt murica is military industrial complex corruption is crazy @@2sridhark
@@silafaupaulmeredith7251660 million people voting 66 odd parties participating in the largest democratic exercise in the world ..the results of which we accepted by all without burning public or private property or rioting on the streets ( France recently) ..That my good sir is a functioning democracy
Do you guys know anything about India’s history? Let’s start there. If you don’t know indias journey to independence over the last 200 years, it will be difficult for you guys to understand the Indian Republic, which is based on democratic principles. I am a US Citizen, trying to grow my business in India.
The speaker is all over the place. What is the topic being discussed?
India independence history going for 800 years 🇮🇳
What a lot of rubbish ,indepence of endia ? That implies that before the British conquered the whole endian subcontinent there was country called endia ,right,but there has never been a country called endia for the whole history of mankind ,endia is creation of the Great British people not endians ,they had 4 thousand years to become a country by they never did and never will ,why ?Because they are multitude of nations and countries that British put together and today the union is maintained by the force of the coward gunga army that got a good trash at Galwan by the Chinese PLA....
Rural india in a way more prosperous than urban india in many regions.
Purchasing power of rural india is increasing drastically.
Any company will have dream consumer market in india , think about in a 30 years time indian market is 5 times of american market with significant purchasing power.
Rural India has more millionaires than urban India. This is because most of the black money is invested in agriculture, which does not attract any income tax.
@@thomashunter5645 entirely agreed , govt. Should tax prosperous farmers.
although you are an American citizen and work for american government and interest, I as an indian is very proud of you Atul for your intellect , acumen and articulation of india - us relationship. truly a treat. I'm quite apprehensive about the deep state in US which keeps popping up now and again undermining our success. We indians wish US well, we want you to remain the only world superpower for a peaceful proporous world.
WTF was last sentense
Better US than China,
Cos with the lazy attitude we got we aint becoming one in 20 yrs , and the we'll be to old for this shit.
@@bv6168 sentence, Now that china is fast cathing up to US in terms of Power, the world would rather have US as a leader than china!!
It is a multi polar world! No such thing as "world's only super power"! Wake up!
An amazing and insightful discussion with Atul Kashyap's brilliant perspective and delivery. Kudos!
One of the best podcasts of a westerner who actually understands india.
Atul kashyaps knowledge and the way he answered the questions showed his amazing grip on everything India. A masterclass in communication .
It was amazing listening Atul Keshap, just fantastic
Mr Atul such a humble , learned and insightful man…your every answer was up to the mark and was answered with grace and dignity…as a India happy to see we have such good learner and open minded people in western hypocritical society…respect for you Mr. Atul how graciously u answered the questions of the dum misread and ill informed host u wanted to talk about geopolitics of india with you but did not have a inch of knowledge about india other then what that misleading biased western newspaper like New York Times and Washington post write about india to degrade india, Indians and the Indian government..seeing the few of the questions which the host was trying to ask you like Hindu nationalist bjp and anti Modi rehotric in his questions it seems he gets fund from George Soros foundation to spread anti india anti Modi narrative but happy u answered it all well….that stupid host western media wrote Modi failed in elections was hilarious 😂 stupid host your so called Modi’s Hindu nationalist 😂 BJP got 240 seats and the dum opposition’s single largest party got 99 seats so in what sense did Modi lost that to after 10 years of continuous rule & continuous meddling of westerners biased agenda based media houses and governments intervention in Indian election as they were a party in these elections and Modi was there opponent constant anti Modi anti Hindu anti india narrative at time of election only in print and digital mode both Aljazeera, BBC, New York Times, Washington Post, The Gurdian, The Economist , France 24 , DW News, ABC Australia etc it looked like in the two months of election they were proper funded and instructed by their masters to drive anti Modi anti bjp and anti India endless campaing and misleading narrative with only anti India panelist to present just the wrong narrative and image of India but still after all odds the India public showed its faith in Modi and bjp few 30 seats sort of majority in not a big deal as the bjp with it’s present poll alliance partner has comfortably secured 294 seats which is way up to the 273 majority mark and ultimately Mr Modi is the boss…and the opposition for whom these hypocritical media campaigns for two months just got 99 out of 543 so I guess u know who is the winners and who is the loser.
Yes 100% agree with your post..actually what these people want to see is India unconditionally toying their line against Russia..Nobody disagrees that the war is an invasion but one with a very provocative back story..They want to see India push 1.5 billion people into poverty by avoiding Russian oil for its energy requirements..simple as
Overall good discussion. He knows India maximum.. thank you.
His father is Indian
plenty of ABCs are completely drowned in self hate and follow western media narratives instead of presenting the Indian perspective for what it genuinely is @@aanakrukavi
As someone who is an Indian citizen working in America, I have my loyalties to both nations however, what's missing in this discussion is how American leadership has left its citizens clueless about their own mistakes viz a viz the US India relationship
1970s liberation of then East Pakistan as Bangladesh happened only when even after numerous attempts by Indian leadership and numerous telegrams by then us envoy in Bangladesh about the atrocities done by Pakistan fell on deaf years ( read up on blood telegrams named after the us envoy himself) Nixon infact sent in more arms to Pak to continue with the genocide and when India intervened, us sent it's 7th naval fleet to bay of Bengal as a threat and Nixon considered nuclear weapons, it was only cause of then USSR sending it's nuclear submarines to patrol in bay of Bengal that thwarted this attack, so clearly helping genocidal idiots in Bangladesh was a big mistake in which US, UK, France, Saudi Arabia, Jordan were all helping Pakistan with arms and ammunition. It's no wonder that such a stand by western powers in helping a military dictatorship like Pakistan caused India to lose trust against western powers.
Back in 1999 when Pakistan invaded Indian territory of Kargil and started an armed conflict under the guise of non state actors President Clinton instead of condemning the attack had helped Pakistan by turning off GPS guidance for Indian armed forces missile systems, eventually India won the conflict with arms and ammunition supplied by Israel and Russia, so the fault lines never even got a chance to heal.
It's only USSR and Russia that have continuously helped us by vetoing any offensive by the west in support of its all weather ally Pakistan on Indian state of Jammu and Kashmir, it's only Russia that displays the correct map of India and no other nation does it so we don't have anything to hold against Russia.
As far as ukraine goes the amount of racism that Indian and African students faced by Ukraines armed forces while getting out at the start of rus Ukraine conflict was never covered by western media but only by regional media so whitewashing racism is something that shall never go down well by victims of colonization. Even when all such attacks were being conducted against Indians, the Indian gov never stopped sending humanitarian aid and in fact shall be the highest contributor of humanitarian aid to Ukraine
Excellent talk. Youearned a Bharatiya Sub
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Atul has presented a most balanced and incisive look at India, and its growth to becoming a superpower.!!
Lil more details on 1971 incident. Americans sent its nuclear warship into Indian Bay of Bengal sea during India Pakistan war on freedom of Bangladesh. Russia sent their submarines to deter Americans
Russia is an example of Indian loyalty to long term relationship. Save for NATO and US leadership, which benefited European security and prosperity after Second World War there is hardly any examples of long term loyalty in Western societies. Imagine how loyal India will be to western efforts, if they offer support to Indias rise like China from 1970 s to 2000. Drawing India into disputes of Europe and wish it compromise its national interest is futile. 50 Billion Air Force assets, 25 Billion infantry assets, 10 s of billion Naval assets will stand ineffective. Fertilizers from Russia, oil at discount, Atomic power stations are crucial to the future of Indian economy. And also important short term from inflation in food and crucial farm sector that employs 47 % of the population. These are NO NO with valid reasons. If China needs to be balanced India is the only sure option for the world. As time passes even more important to rest of the world. Just adding what is already known! Great discussion to understand the Indian behavior in today’s world!
Put an indian flag on your thumbnail, and you will get a million+ views.
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It was wonderful to find a positive person with enormous understanding about feelings of Bharat and it's glorious civilization and past ancient linkages with people of other countries.. Usually we come across US characters who try to bully or threat or lecture or blabber skewed narratives without any knowledge about ancient civilizational linkages and history.... Really admirable discussion.. people without knowledge should follow and try to learn more about civilizations... Best wishes...
We cannot kill agriculture in India rural sector for manufacturing and make world grain less and hungry. We dont want to kill our environment for west like China did. We might go slow and we will have to develop agriculture with modernization which I agree. Future food is gold, not things that we manufacture.
Grain for world😂😂fool save yourself from that full pesticide grain, last 2 decade left for soil to grow that.
Luddite argument
@@eespn4764after two decades humans will grow grain with water/air without soil. Or humans will invent a way to survive on air and water
That is a recipe for keeping people poor.
Many Indian companies with market capitalization of more than $50 B ,with penetration in Africa, middle east , south America, east Asia,.
North American and Europe will be next phase,
The guest has answered very beautifully, in details.
This is great conversation, I love all three of you!!
This gentleman, Mr. Atul Keshap (half Indian, half white ?), really knows his stuff. Through all his answers, he has displayed accurate and deep knowledge about India's history and Indian political thought process.
Well balanced conversation
US & Europe need to support India a vibrant economy and all embracing age-old Hindu culture which all peace loving religions...I appreciate this Podcast for its positive and encouraging approach to India... thank you so much..❤❤❤😊
Atul can help Indian government to explain how to fix some of the issues that will allow more jobs to be created.
Excellent presentation
Brilliant analysis on india/usa relationship
Indian government has prevented (somewhat successfully) its population from being exploited by companies from western economies. You have to understand we come from a recent colonial past with heavy exploitation memories, hence the delayed opening of the market to the world.
I agree with the commentators every view and can say he has a much better perspective than many other. I believe such podcasts should replace US mainstream media to reflect on the reality of the rest of the world instead of some sham cooked-up perspective by elite liberals (so called). Kudos to the host asking very clear questions (non-opineated) and for hosting such podcasts with learned guest speaker/commentator.
Excellent talk ..the West needs to align itself to the new realities n not with a white supremacy attitude n arrogance
great interview.
Remember ruling 60 countries with only one million officers and majority Indian's were middle armed protector for British ,otherwise it would have been impossible to rule 60 countries.
Very balanced analysis
good conversation
Great conversation! 🙏
Great discussion 👍
Excellent presentation.
in india we need professional skilled and modernly equipped which will speed up production...a carpenter compared to us carpenter..big diff...in labor input ..missing big time in india
missing big time in india
Pragmatic and helpful to USA and Indian relationship
My question to the speaker - what is your topic?if it is about the local Indian market, then stay focused on that?
US cannot mind our own business. We dont know how to do that and be relevant. The friction point is usually when countries dont listen to us and do what we say. This way has served us well so far. Not sure if it will in the future but we will learn and evolve if necessary.
I don’t believe America helped any during Galwan dispute. Atul is just trying to be polite.
There was lot of diffirence of opinion between Venuzuala z country with US sanction but borrowed lot from Russia was troubling its neighbour Guyana. An understanding of Venuzulan oil supplied by Russian vessel solved all the 3 countries are benifited and Venuzuala has stoppef bullying Guyana which has 40% Indians who were taken there as Indentured labourers .Now guyana which has found oil , Indian are helping the country in its oil exploration . India has also agreed to build Urea plant in Venezuela and Guyana so that their agriculture grows because of the oil found . All a win win situation for every one to live in peace and happily. Similiar acts are being taken up in African Countries invluding establishing Medical Colleges /Medical hospitsls of high class where complicated surgery is performed
Good conversation, at least somebody knows little bit about India
He knows way way more than you
By 2030 $8 Trillion GDP
Chinese aggressive politics is underplayed here also. I am sure that they all know it.
What ? BJP close to Iranian theocracy?
How about USA close to Pakistan dictator ship? Nah, that does not matter right? You are not answerable to anyone?
man in the blue shirt...knowlegebal
China developed on its own terms. India should also develop in its own terms.
Thank u 4 keeping it honest..... 🙏
Jim & Ray represent the genuinely sympathetic but often dismissive & uninformed 'Yanks' who get under the Indians' skin. Ambassador Kayshap displays an impressive knowledge of history and grasp of Asian future. People like him would have served so much better for US- India relationship than Garcetti and Blinken- too bad.
about five hundred years ago india went into a depression. which affected the whole east west trade that was flourishing at the time. now both the indian corridor and east asia are abuzz with activities. there is no major power control issues and anyone with any real interest can benefit from it. unless some have other ideas on their minds.
Amb.Keshap is a great friend of India.
Another example of loose loose deal is between Pakistan and India.
Not if when .and one day number one
Modi will lead India to become the worlds third largetst economy, Modi will be re elected in 2029 and then again last term in 2034
10:25 the urban rural divide can be so misleading. Rural India is a not by the books economy - cash only, barter, no claimed business or workers etc.
China will never accept lines drawn, often unilaterally, by the Brits. And 'india' which was cobbled together by the Brits is not the automatic inheritor of the British Raj. Too many agents of India here.
So funny, West points to a finger to India, then realizes 3 fingers are towards them!
Shouldn't you talk about terrorist country to the wests
I am ur under 1000 subscriber !!
Blue shirt man didn't mince a word about authoritarian regime, looks like a big Modi (Putin) fan :)
Please don't colonise India again .
India no want no colonisation no more .
India want independent existence .
38:20
I don't think Indian FP objectives could be declared as promiscuous
some times why even need so called democracy even voted government not doing much to the people who voted, i prefer dictator it he/she is in good sense, even north korea is doing really good in that sense.
US wants a level-playing field for their companies, but they will not hesitate in preventing companies like Huawei & BYD to come into the US Market. Hypocrisy at the highest.
You should not care at all, nothing to worry, move along.
Nobody should be excited by this GDP ranking. Even if one day India reaches the level of U S GDP, per capita income will still be less than the third when compared to that of Americans. Income inequality and spendable income will still be a less and unattractive as a future market for western goods.
Yup
PPP is more relavent than GDP...
No one is asking you to care....
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US has no alternative and India has many options. India will play every possible leverage game because west always played that same leverage game with India siding with Pakistan.
Don't use the word civilization with America
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the guy in the black tshirt on top looks bored to death
The Guy in Black Polo Shirt Tries to Act Oversmart.
What a Clown
You would be better off staying as far away from the West, as possible.
Why am I even watching this …., the usual patronising Americans.
very western ignorance about india/asia exposed here.
Bored 🥱
We need Sharia 🎉🎉sharia in UK france🎉🎉🎉germany 🎉
mohd ko kutta le gaya shariya dilane
Pichwade me denge saria.
I hope this was sarcastic
Modi needs to go and we need somone in India who is humble and whose heart beats for the poor and destitute of India.
Modi is pro-rich and sucks up to Ambanis, Adanis and wherever public glare is.
He was even seen talking to the cricket team that came back after winning a Cricket tournament!
He has not addressed major challenges: Police reforms, Judicial reforms, Education reforms.
Police in India is a concubine of the political class. We have seen how it is misused by a CM (his counterpart in USA is the Governor) of the largest Indians State (Province) viz U.P.
Police needs to be liberated from the clutches of the politicians and bureaucrats but who will bell the cat?
Judiciary in India is crumbling.
It takes 7 years or more to go for a petitioner to a hearing!
Education in India and by that i mean quality education, is beyond the reach of most poor people, and lower middle class.
It is expensive and here again you have corruption everywhere in the form of huge donations that the schools (private) demand.
I do agree with some points you make.. But the rest of it is just BJP bashing which honestly I don't have a problem with either but unfortunately that makes some of your very good points seem biased. On the ground things are different everytime a party comes to power in India be it the Congress before 2014 police , judiciary etc have been used in undemocratic ways against the opposition and even the people with sane voices. About modi being pro adani and ambani..yes there is some truth to it but let me add Congress banned cars above 1000cc in India in the 90's only coz the company manufacturing 800 cc vehicles has a stake owned by the Gandhi family this is one example of many.. also what makes Rahul Gandhi a PM candidate I fail to understand he has no experience in governance not even at the level of a City Mayor so what makes him and his supporters feel entitled to feel that he is a good PM candidate , maybe it's too low for him considering his family history to start somewhere small isn't it . Compassion is fine, being humble is even better but those are all human values not necessarily that of a leader always.. So I think personally that Modi is doing a good job and people trust him which shows in the mandate which is the opposite for Raga.
He is left congi troll ignore him
You mean who can handover this nation to Islamists
Keep your propaganda to yourself
India is still a very poor country. I, as a naturalized US citizen, relocated to India some years ago to lead a retired life. I find it a good place for retirement but there is a lot that is not right here. Infrastructure sucks. As a senior citizen, I cannot even walk on the roads of any major city without risking my life because there are no designated platforms for pedestrians. One has to compete with the traffic!
The place is overcrowded in big cities. Traffic is chaotic. There are no rules.
Police is corrupt. Almost every institution of govt is ripe with corruption. When my father passed away 6 months ago, I had to pay a bribe to get his body released from the mortuary!
I see a lot of homeless people everywhere in India.
I see beggars everywhere.
So, does it matter to me if India becomes the 3rd largest economy?
No, it does not.
It probably only goes to show that rich Indians like Ambanis, Adanis are getting richer while the poor are getting beaten up.
Those who are excited about it can take that piece of statistics and shove it where the moon never shines!
Recent GINI index show different picture of india 🇮🇳
Mr. Sridhar: Erudite people like you should not come back to India, to spend retired life.
Even if I move from Chennai to a village in India, my experience or mental make up will be same. I will leave it at this.
2:51 - most Indians aren't passionately devoted to democracy and human freedom any more.
India has been deeply & irrevocably radicalized by the current regime in power.
I am an Indian, living in India - and I see those values get murdered every single day. India under Modi is the place where liberalism comes to die.
Bro because of the liberalism you can see how a heaven like Europe is suffering
Well you don't know India then. Indians are not radicalized lol. You are gaslighting.
I suppose your liberalism is basically National Socialist (Nazi) Europe.
Disagree with you
Stay in islamic state and you will come to know what India is
Too much goodness is also a poison.
Amazing and insightful discussion, Atul you are brilliant
BJP being a hindu party in hindu majority India is great as Hindus ensures a secularism and a pluralistic society in contrast to a islamic nations where blasphemy laws , kafir hate and islamic jehad prevails ...n even a Christian states where conversion is rampantly practised n have moved from the barbaric crusaders times to the other extreme where islamic radicalisation is taking over their land n society n now right wings ideologies and red necks are becoming more prominent in USA n Europe . Hinduism which is one of the oldest religion- phylosphy believes in global citizenship n global village concept unlike the Abrahamic religions which believes in Nation state ideology .
India is growing really fast and making money from various aspects...
Nobody care about your views. Save UK.
Only sensible comment here.. !