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I distinctly remember your initial reaction during that 20mi run when trying out the invincible 1!! Time flys, I can't believe we are already on the 3rd iteration
Soak in every run!
Seth, Your video intro is so nice. Thank you. Looks so good i almost want to take a train.
First of all, thank you James, for all your hard work into your videos on shoes reviews they are greatly appreciated Do you have no idea. You made shoe purchasing less painful and stress free. I watched your videos on the Invincible ones and twos and was instantly hooked where I purchased the Incredible twos which I absolutely love. thinking that I would be excited for the incredible threes, but when they came out and I tried them on, it was a big flop, and a no go on my end. I am trying my best to track down old sock on the invincible twos until Nike gets the invincible 4 correct!
Great honest review! Thanks a lot Seth :))
QOD:The Asics Gel Nimbus! I ran exclusively in this shoe throughout middle and high school, usually buying multiples of the same model. I think the last one was 16. When I returned to running I bought the Nimbus 22 and it was not what I remembered.
Was looking forward to this. I have basically ran everyday in the 2 for the year plus. Have heard a lot of mixed reviews and was definitely wanting your take on it. The 1 and 2 along with the New Balance More V3 have been my shoe to go to for the last two years. Did you do a review on the More V4? I know when it came out you were injured, just canât remember if you did it before the injury. Thanks so much for all you do!
Was able to run test this shoe in a local running store, and what seth said held true: they made the upper more âcomfortableâ, made the midsole softer, made it a little morn stable on the mid/forefoot area, but I was also experiencing heel slippage.
I ran in the Invincible Run V1 yesterday, and that shoe seems to get better every time I use it.
Yoooo Seth,Nike is a billion dollar business that shown financial growth in the past year alone,as you pointed out. Doubt they would need a CZcams runner to test their shoes. For every person who experience heel slippage, there's a person who doesn't(me being one). Goes to show,not all feet are the same and you're not going to please everyone
Of they donât need him. But a lot of high profile CZcamsrs have had pretty negative reviews of this shoe and that certainly hurts sales of the shoe
I don't have heel slipping out, but because the cussion is so soft, my heels does move up and down the heelcounter a bit. but inside the heelcounter.
QOD: I never purchased the Boston 10 even though I ran for years in versions 5-9. I recently purchased the Boston 11 on major discount. While the 11âs are really good, especially at tempo paces, it doesnât compare to the feeling of running in the Boston 9âs. The Boston 9âs have a great mix of cushion, nimbleness and the fun factor that makes it an excellent daily trainer. I look forward to the changes in the Boston 12 later this year and hope some of the 9âs identity is restored.
Interesting. I bought the Invincible 1 and had horrible hot spots/numbness in my foot any time I took it beyond 3-4 miles. I tried the 2âs on and had similar a experience. The 3âs seem to have fixed all issues for me. Coming in on 100 miles in them and I LOVE them. They feel way more stable and if you put the laces through the bottom holes of the eyelit chain it seems to have completely fixed the heel slip for me. Itâs my new go to trainer for sure.
I have one pair of the invincible ones and I love them so much! And now I have two pairs of the invincible twos and I think theyâre tiny bit better than the ones I think they have a little bit wider toebox which is nice definitely the most comfortable shoes Iâve ever owned. Thanks for the video đ
I have over 100 miles in my pair of the invincible 3. I had a little heel slippage during the first couple of runs but once I got the lockdown right the shoe seemed to settle and have had no issues since! I really love the shoe, actually. I didnât run in versions 1 or 2, so I donât have a way to compare them.
How did you manage to get the lockdown right? And do you find that you get less ankle issues in this shoe? Thanks.
I wouldnât say far better, but for easy days, I liked the fresh foam more v3 over v4. The v3 was a very comfy, soft, and protective easy day shoe. You couldnât use it for any other runs even if you forced it.
However, with the more v4, they made the midsole firmer, changed the rocker geometry, and added a decoupled groove. The end product? A more stable and versatile shoe that leans more towards a daily trainer rather than an easy day shoe. I also love using my more v4 now, but I preferred how the More. V3 was for easy days
Ouch, I was looking forward to getting these to replace my Asics NovaBlast 2's as a recovery shoe. Guess I will have to keep using my NovaBlast 2 till I can get a good replacement
I have never had a heal slippage problem in any shoe and been running for 40 plus years. That having been said my 1st pair of Invincibles I went to 600 miles, my second pair are at 450 and still going strong and my 1st pair of Invincible II are at 250 miles and going strong. Will I buy the new iteration? Yes, but only when on sale.
I heard about the heel slip issue from a couple reviews and decided to buy a 2nd pair of invincible 2s and pass on this version
Hey Seth, have you tried a runners knot on the shoe as I have been told that has resolved peoples heel issues with the shoe
Hi, Loved the Hoka Carbon X version 1, version 2 was ok but version 3 just hate it and had to return it to Hoka.
Comment of the day: It has to be the Boston lineup. I had the Bostons from Boston 5 to 9 and then it all of a sudden became a completely different "beast", oversized and not at all giving the feel of the ground under foot. I do have the invincibles 1 and 2 but will not go for the 3 after seeing this. Thanks Seth you are saving me some pennies.
Just like weight and upper lock downs are your major concerns in a running shoe, cushioning devices in the heel and forefoot are mine. I would love to go to Nike Headquarters with you and ask them why theyâre taking air backs out? Thankfully in the Peg 39, they are there in the heel and forefoot unlike the 38.
QOD: a couple of years ago I purchased my first pair of Brooks Glycerins, they were the Glycerin 18 and I liked them a lot. Year later later I purchased the 19s and they were my favorite daily trainer shoes, so when the 20's arrived I was really excited and purchased them without testing them first. The first run was kinda okay but after some days into them I just couldn't feel the same joy as the past versions and I was kinda disappointed... I'll definitely check out the 21s but will be testing them first for sure.
QOD: I am a stability shoe runner and love the Saucony Guide. I been wearing them since the 8th or 9th iteration. Last year the 15 was released. I tried them on and immediately knew something was up. I passed on them and went for the Hoka Arahi. Fast forward to a month ago and the Guide 15 was on clearance for $45. I figured I could deal with whatever I experienced last year for that price. They are not unrunnable, but they just aren't as comfortable. The heal counter feels a lot like the Mizuno Alchemy from 6 or 7 years ago. I can feel the plastic pushing right into my heel (behind the arch and in front of the heel). The previous versions provided stability the whole length and you couldn't feel it poking anywhere. Also, the new 15s have a lot more room in the toe box. It's too the point that the shoe feel a little loose. Finally, visually they look much worse from the top down as the sole on both sides of the toe box extend out. As a bit of a Saucony fan boy, this is tough and I am definitely looking at Asics and maybe Brooks.
Pegasus.
Loved the 35. The 36,37,38, 39 not so much. Still every time the Peg comes out I buy pair hoping itâs a bit like earlier pegs.
Do you have any recommendations for half marathon trainers? Should I have different shoes for training shorter and longer distances?
QD: the last shoe that I bought with the previous one being better was the Bondi6. The 5 was much better. The 6 and 7 have both had heel slippage. I find them wearing holes on the inside from it as the mileage gets up there. I havenât had any issues from it other than holes developing in the shoe.
V1 I like way better than the 3. I do have some heel slippage but not a lot, however the 3's seem to be a lot more firm. The 1 felt like running on pillows and was one of all time shoes for me. The 3's are ok but don't get that soft feeling at all, a bit disappointed.
QD: I've not liked the update to the Saucony Endorphin Speed 3. The tongue seems to be a bit too short and thin and the laces that came with the Night Lite color specifically caused some inflammation on the tops of my feet as well. I remember trying the first version of the Endorphin Speeds and falling in love with the shoe and appreciated that Saucony didn't change too much when it came to the Speed 2. But this go around just doesn't hit the mark for me. I'll get life out of this pair, but will certainly be on the search for the previous model when it comes time to purchase a new pair
QD: I am on my 9th and final stockpiled pair of the original Nike zoomfly flyknit from 2018. I just got the zoomfly 5 after trying it in store and liking it. We'll see how it does! The zoomfly 2, 3, and 4 have been complete garbage and I didn't get them. Similarly, the zoom pegasus turbo 1 but really the 2s were great. After a several year hiatus from this model, the zoom pegasus turbo next% nature (if that's isn't enough to spit out) dropped last fall and didn't really cut it for me. If it aint' broke....
I have to say the Novabast v1 was so fun . I couldnât wait for the V2. It would have to be even better right? Nope, I got calf injuries in back to back pairs and I had to move on. 4 pairs of Endorphin Speed 2s later I can confirm the calf issues never came back.
Now Iâm gun-shy on the V3. But man I loved the V1.
I was excited about this shoe and I will still try it but very unlikely I will buy if the heel slips, I have a narrow foot. The only shoe that really fits me is NB1080 in a narrow. I've been looking for another pair and it is sold out.
QoD. The peregrine 10 was a bomb. The 11's were'nt for me. Not quite sure what changed but it made me look to change them. And i did.
Went to the Nike outlet for my daughter and I was trying on Invincible 2 and the salesman brought out a pair of 3's before they went on sale. I felt the heel slip immediately! I tried different lace techniques and could never get a lock down on the heel jogging up the shoe aisle.
I don't own the Invincible 3, but I did notice significant heel slippage while trying it at the store. Thankfully, Nike did at least listen a little bit and has given us longer laces to tie the runner's knot đ (in v1 the laces were way too short for that).
It's interesting that the caliper read a narrower heel, given that Nike said they widened the base of the shoe... I wonder what's going on there đ€
Also, a personal take on the zoomx is it just feels a little different to me. I don't know if cheap is the best word for it, but the v1 and v2 felt (to me, at least) like the midsole was more resilient and springy. This one feels to me like it's just soft with no bounce, and I actually felt bad putting the shoe back in stock because after a 2 minute test jog, the midsole already had some slight creasing. I'm not that heavy of a guy either, at about 150lb.
QOD: I thought you might say a question like that, Pegasus 36. After running in the Pegasus 36 from Nike, I felt like it was just the best at got 400 miles out of them, then after that I felt like it just got worse, especially the upper. I stopped running in Pegasus after running in the 37s
I fully agree! I was super disappointed with the 37 and 38âs. Stopped buying after the 38s and switched to Hoka Mach 5âs.
QD: For my was the Pegasus 28/ Nike Icarus vs Pegasus 29. The Pegasus 29 was too unstable compared to the 28. The inner part of the midsole was too narrow and caused an accentuation of pronation, especially if you were over 80 kg. This however did not happen in the Pegasus 28 model because the sole of the foot was wider, and at the same time it had a plantar arch in the sole to ensure greater stability of the foot. Furthermore, the upper was more forgiving than the Pegasus 29 which then had a structural change in the 30 version.
I also included the Nike Icarus because it was a Pegasus 27/28 but practically made for outlets, created and built with the same materials and the same performance as the Pegasus, so much so that over time it was replaced by Winflo to try to maintain separate two lines of shoes.
returned mine and purchased more 2's on sale
QOD: for me itâs the Nike Vomero series. Ran my first marathon in the 3s, bought on the discount aisle, then got the 5s, superb! 8s and 12s were awful but Butter to the Bread⊠Vomero 13 was my favourite shoe. Bought and ran in 5 pairs and still have one in âstockâ, saving it even though I ran in some 14s. And that was that⊠gave up at 14.
Yup, first run last night terrible without heel lock lacing, with runners knot hurt the top of my foot. Very disappointing
Is it better to just buy discounted Invincible 2 at $80?
Iâve got all three! For some reason, I tend to overpronate in the v3.
QD: I'm a bigger fan of the Speedgoat 4 than I am of the 5. They advertise that the midsole in the 5 is the same CMEVA as in the EVO, but it feels much firmer and deadens out much more quickly. Also the upper on the 5 stretches too much, which, when combined with the obnoxious heel flare, leads to heel slippage, especially late into an ultra. I wore a pair of the 5s at the start of Wyoming Range 100 last year, but had to switch out to a pair of EVOs with over 300 miles on them because the 5s were getting sucked off my feet by mud and letting in too much debris thanks to the elf heel.
Rambling aside... Hoka. BRING BACK THE EVO.
Had the 1 and loved it. Tried on the 3 in the store and did not love it, went with the NB More Foam V4 instead
QD: Iâm a die hard New Balance fan and the Rebel has been my go to daily trainer. I have about 500 miles on my V3âs and about 200 on my V2âs. For me, the Rebel V2 is feeling way better as I get more energy return from the Fuelcell. Only thing I donât like on V2 is the lateral flare.
For me, the Rebel V3 just have such a better fit and a much wider landing tho. The new upper is also much much better, more like a daily trainer built quality. The V2âs just got flat out in the midsole & upper was ripped so early, ~300km for me
Interesting. What I didnât mention was I got my V3âs first. Then lucked out and found V2âs in my wide size online. I have wide, flat feet so the Rebel line are just amazing.
I bought of pair of the Invincible 3. The heel slip feels a lot worse on step-In than while running. However, the fit of the Invincible 1 is still preferable to the 3. Oddly, I think Nike may have made the heel changes because people (including many Shoetubers) thought there was too much padding in the heel in previous models.
Iâm with you! On step in, I thought the padding was weird, but I actually saw the padding around the heel collar as a stabilizer, and allowed me to land farther back on my foot on east/recovery days while still keeping the foam super springy. Sounds like the midsole isnât as fun in the 3.
I don't really run in Nike's I do use the Pegasus shield that because I live in the PNW so it help for the winter months. Other then that it's most Hoka , Saucony, Salomon, or Brooks once in a while or a zero drop shoe .
Love the trustworthy in depth content! Any chance of getting a pegasus turbo nature review in the future?
QOD: I used to love the ASICS DS Trainer. But the last couple iterations I have bought have really been a disappointment. The most recent versions have felt too flat and too firm compared to the earlier versions (say up to around 2014).
QD: For me the endorphin speed 3 is not as good as V1&2. Donât get me wrong itâs still a great shoe and I enjoy running in them but the Speeds 1&2 had that raw edge the made them more exciting.
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loved the Pegasus 36, but don't like the 37,38,39... The same with Vaporly 1 and Vaporfly 2...
the original endorphin speed was better than the 2! I bought two pairs of 2âs when they were on sale, but wish I would have done that with the originalsâŠthe first was so great. Guess Iâll try the 3âs when I need to replace these 2âs?
I recently got the v3 and it's a letdown, considering the high expectations I had for it and how much I like the v2. The heel slippage issue is definitely there although it's possible to minimize it with the runner's knot and careful lacing to get a good balance between comfort and lockdown. I had to stop several times during a 7-mile run to re-do the laces because there was too much slippage or I'd have laced too tight and create discomfort on top of my feet. Finding the sweet spot is tricky and a new shoe out-of-the-box should not be like this.
Besides this, the ride just isn't as bouncy and fun as it is on the v2. It is more stable but I never found stability to be an issue on v2 anyway. Obviously, it's still bouncy and very well cushioned with all that ZoomX foam but the "magic" isn't there. It's a massive shoe and the ride is clunky. It's still a good shoe and I may grow to like it more as an easy/recovery/slow shoe but, for me, it's been a disappointment. I like the Gel-Nimbus 25 and the More v4 (and the v2) far more. All the updates seemed like it would be an improvement over v2 (and v1 which I haven't tried) and I guess it does look better from the side, but Nike somehow made it worse. Like Seth, I would not recommend this shoe.
I bought the 1âs and I loved them for easy runs. I didnât go for the 2âs and now the comments of the 3âs are not exciting me. I went for the gel nimbus 25s instead đđœ
These shoes caused me extreme pain in the ankle area. The lining was slipping and digging into my ankle and pinching the nerve. Most painful run I've ever experienced. đĄ
QOD: I donât know if itâs the âlastâ shoe I tried where the previous one was better, but this QOD makes me think of the Brooks Launch. When they brought it back from the dead years ago, I was glad to see it (although they never brought back my beloved Green Silence). But the subsequent iterations of Launch just never captured the magic of the first one. In fact they just got more and more bland, and therefore less and less relevant. Iâm not even sure if the Launch is still alive and kicking or if itâs just quietly faded awayâŠ
One "trick" I found to solve the heal slip problem is to use the back upper hole plus when tieing the shoe make shure the lace is forward of the plastic attachment on the tongue (toward the front of the shoe). I found if you tie the shoe on top of the plastic plate on the tongue it will loosen the lace and the heal will slip. Nike needs to remove the plastic piece on the tongue. Hope this helps!
I was looking for your review. I'm an Invincibile fan and hearing this is just heartbreaking. However, I would have measured the forefoot width instead, that's where the increase is.
New Balance 1080's - Such a great shoe prior to the double digit models, can't stand the last few versions..
QD: by no means is this a bad shoe, but after about 100 miles I am feeling underwhelmed by the Saucony Endorphin Speed 3. The 1 and 2 were very versatile and I used those for anything from fast 800m repeats to tempo runs and long runs with sections at marathon pace. The only downside of those: the stability of the heel. This is where the 3 improved massively and I think it is a better shoe for the marathon paced long runs. But it lacks the sharpness to pick up the speed more for me. And at the end of long runs, the aggressive heel counter start biting in my skin. I've had a blister twice. Initially I was enthusiastic about the Speed 3, because it became a better shoe for long tempo and marathon paced efforts. But it niched down too much for me and where it shines most (longer runs), it also has a problem in the heel...
Another one I have slightly mixed feelings about: the Saucony Triumph 20. In almost every regard it's much better than its predecessors. But - big but - they increased the drop to 10 mm. And I can feel it in every stride. At first I thought I just had to get used to it, but it seems I won't. I keep feeling it, it keeps annoying me and I keep wishing they kept the drop at 8 mm. I hope the 22 (21 seems to be a small upper upgrade) wil take all the good improvements of the 20 and brings the heel drop back to 8 mm :)
Agree! Bring back the 8 mm drop!
QOD: Alphafly 2! Big letdown compared to the OG pair. Not as springy in my opinion and the arch didnât cooperate with my foot.
Ran 50 miles in the Invincible 3 then returned them to Nike.
Would get hotspots on the ball of my foot during the run that would not go away sometimes. Runners knot wouldnât help the issue and actually created a lot of pressure on top my foot. A big nope from me, unfortunately
Seth i think everyone who has reviewed and ran in this shoe has said the same thing about the heel slippage. Looks like Nike tried to do some changes and it didnt work out. It also seems more like a lifestyle running shoe than anything else. First version was the best there was nothing like it when they came out, I had 2 pairs then bought the v2 which i didnt like certain thing about that shoe. I wont be grabbing the v3 I like the SC trainer alot.
Invincible 1/2 were for me perfect shoes for dedicated easy miles,fit softness and ride perfect. The 3 was a major disappointment,heel slip horrid upper and a much firmer feel,sent back bought a few more pairs of the 2 whilst I could.
Do Nike not test shoes? I mean the heel slip issue is pretty ridiculous.
Adidas Boston 10!⊠the change from the 9 was dramatic!⊠I actually like the 10, but for a whole different reason for why I bought it, thinking it would carry on the trend from the 8 & 9!
The Boston 10 : completely disappointed compared to the 9. i was aware about the changes, but why keeping the name in this case. Jeremy
Returning mines too much heel slippage! What a let down!!!!
QD: Boston 9. I did not buy any version of Boston since.
I like the Invincible 3
Definitely seeing mixed reviews. Some, like Ben Johnson, have loved it. I have the 2, and it took me a while to really like it. The tongue actually hurt the top of my left foot. It's not a problem now, but it took a few runs for it to stop. It's not a problem now, and I love running in them. I'll probably give the 3 a go in a few hundred more miles on these. Oh, and QOD, the Peg 36 felt like a step back from the 35s. Not too sure why, but they felt harsher under foot. Didn't take them to full duration.
Ben has an agreement with Nike so there is some brand bias there
@@stevengonsalves4304 I know, but he's put in a lot of miles in the shoe when he could move on to something else. I even asked him if he put these ahead of the NB Rebel 2 (which he loved) and he said that he did.
Ben gets paid by Nike.
@@JDCEsq1 Interesting. I remember how much he loved the rebel. Sad to see him stop reviewing other brands.
I am the biggest fan of the invincible 1 and 2. I brought the 3 and was massively disappointed
Firstly the ride has lost the magic of the first two
Itâs feels less soft less bouncy I think probably because of the strobe board they have added and the first two didnât have
Also heel slip was really bad I had to do a runners knot/ heel lock
But had to tie it so tight it wasnât comfortable and didnât 100% solve the problem
I sent the 3s back and brought another pair of 2s
Also I posted a 1 star review on Nikes website and it didnât get published. Funny how my 5star review of the 2 did tho
Who says 'first' anymore
People that hope Seth sticks a giveaway at the end of the video for the first comment đ€·ââïž never know, it's happened a couple times
If Iâm first. I say it. If Iâm 200th⊠I say it. Some get all bent about it. Itâs an acknowledgment of just being excited to be here! To have a new day and another chance to go forward!
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Not sure why Nike is insistent on sticking with Flyknit, too many compromises need to be made to make it somewhat functional for running when other manufacturers have been having a ton of success using traditional mesh uppers. Nike makes the weirdest decisions and they get away with it because they're Nike.
Agree! Bring back the mesh uppers.
I love Flyknit. My favorite shoe was the Epic React.
@@chrisbryan1872 love the React. Still wear a pair. Got them a few years ago at Ross for $40.00. Probably my favorite shoe too.
Heel slip seems to be the biggest concern with this shoe from most folks who Iâve seen put a review out. I was excited for this shoe but it sounds like Iâll pass on this one
Loved version one and two. Dislike three, they two pairs I purchased I gave away. Very uncomfortable, the upper had many hot spots if you use a runners knot. To bad I liked the shoe, but Nike ruined it. The out sole on all versions are like butter when they get wet
Oh and⊠26th!!!
QOD : Adidas Takumi Sen 5 and 7 was better than the Takumi Sen 8.
bought it 2 months ago, heel slippage, so called runner knot was useless for this shoes, cannot return the product after use in my country, angry customer and hugely disappointed. bought another v2 immediately, no more v2 available in retail stores now.
I think they listened too the loud minority too much. They made the changes that were requested from them. Now the people who liked the 1&2 donât like the 3. And the people who complained about the 1&2 are still complaining about the 3 đ
Over 750 miles in 1&2. Went out and bought extra 2's in my size at a discount. Love the shoe...why did they mess with it? I assume because the 1&2's are butt ugly but who cares?
QOD: Iâm an endorphin fan, but I must say the speed 1 was better than the speed 2. Then Saucony crushed both the 1 and 2 when they released the 3 and Iâm not sure they should change this shoe any further because for me they nailed it!
QD: nike alphafly was waaaay better than nike alphafly 2.
Measure the forefoot dork. Thatâs the difference
Endorphin Speed 2 was FAR better than the Speed 3!
Agree 100%.
Wow Seth⊠youâre so f***** right⊠i just returned mines today⊠that heel is horrible⊠looks like Nike donât test the shoes⊠are you serious Nike? Nobody in the whole Beav. Headquarters tells about the heel?⊠i canât believe itâŠ
Btw⊠Peg 40 the same shoe again??? Same mid again and again??? Oh my godâŠ. A little more stack to that mid and mix at least React with ZoomxâŠ
Didn't buy the 1 or 2. But thought I'd give the 3's a try to see what it's all about. The shoe felt heavy and very unstable to me. I also had heel slip and achilles rub. With most dud shoes I buy.....and just use them casually ......but not this one. It's too unstable to even walk in. Feel like people are going to get hurt using these. What a waste of money.
Nike Trail 3 is better than the 4. Nike find a shoe you like then horde when on sale..lol
Unstable, espensive, heavy and overhyped.
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Why do you hoard so many shoes?? It's disgusting!! Donate them to people who can't afford a good paid of running shoes.
He saves them for future reference. Seth has done many giveaways over the last several years.
All Nike zoomx shoes get worse each iteration...
It took Hoka a few more years to get the Clifton right after the first version.
My favorite shoe is the Altra Escalante! Love all the previous lterations, but the Escalante 3 is just not the same. Itâs been softened up, and the midsole is not as nice. Please bring back the previous midsole aAltr
I mean Altra.
I had the same issue with the heel counter going from the OG endorphin shift to the endorphin shift 2. It's not THAT bad but I still prefer the first iteration of the shoe. Have yet to try the Shift 3 yet.
novablast 1 was fire,2 a disaster
Hi Seth, Thank you for making these videos and staying consistent. Seek Beauty, Work Hard, Love each other đ
The Boston 10's was a lot more comfortable than the Boston 11's
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Got the 1st(used) and 2nd(new) invincible. Super cush n responsive but sold them before hitting 100k because both shoe give me anterior tibilis tendonitisđ„Č