SLIPKNOT IS HEAVY AGAIN! (Slipknot "The Dying Song (Time To Sing)" reaction)
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 27. 08. 2024
- Slipknot is back with their new song "The Dying Song (Time To Sing)". How does it compare to classic Slipknot songs like "Psychosocial," "Duality" and "People = Shit"? Is Slipknot heavy again? Does this sound like "Iowa"? Find out in this reaction/review of "The Dying Song (Time To Sing)."
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Please do another Pantera video especially after that dimebag video just went viral
They are ending their run with roadrunner
SLIPKNOT IS HEAVY AGAIN!??? Uh...no. Slipknot has not been heavy since IOWA. Ever since then they're sound has just been completely lackluster and uninteresting.
@Finnmckenty - love your channel and in spirit of honest debate I must call you out on something. On Fat Mikes channel you said Slipknot are not cool because they are âtypical nu metalâ. And yet on your channel video you praised Slipknot for being pioneers by introducing blast beats in the mainstream and by incorporating death metal in their music, which set them apart from the nu metal pack.
Make up your mind and stance Finn - otherwise it appears to be a contradiction or worse still, it appears as if you opportunistically dither between opinions based on the situation.
Iâm not saying either is the reality, Iâm saying thatâs how it appears.
You pride yourself on being honest, well thatâs my honest opinion.
And doesnât change my view of your channel, which still remains positive.
Anytime Corey doesn't scream: "StOne sOuR voCaLs"
the amount of pussy choruses they ve been doing is generic and unnecesary bro... who wants a clean chorus in the middle of a heavy song? specially if its slipknot? stone sour affected slipknot way too much, Check the difference between the more Nu metal-ish Cleans in the first two albums with the Garbage Cleans he started to do on Vol.3 and forward inlfuenced by his Stone Sour proyect that started to gain fame in 2003
Guilty as charged but the vocals grew on me a lot
Yet he still screams in stone sour lol
Buttrock vibes lol
Nickelback Vibes đ
Props to Jay. Completely agree he came into an impossible situation to fill Joeyâs shoes and he has absolutely killed it.
I'm so glad to hear Corey's taken care of his voice since We Are Not Your Kind, he doesn't sound hoarse af anymore and his scream is nice and crisp again. I love it
the whole point of Slipknot was being raw. thats why their first 3 albums sounded great and unique. Corey cant sing raw anymore, he took lessons and now he sounds good and technical but lack of rawness is the missing link nowadays.
Itâs because during MFKR, Selftitled, and Iowa he was screaming, which is really taxing on your throat and in Vol 3 and AHIG it is burnt out and crackle-y. In .5 and WANYK it started coming back to what it was before.
@@Eidolon5150 Gray Chapter he was screaming through his nasal and it was super noticeable, he's balanced it out since then
@@dekapitatorr you can sound raw without destroying your vocal cords though.
@@dekapitatorr gotta disagree that thereâs no rawness. He still has a lot of his old sound, itâs just sustainable now. People say the same thing about Jonathan Davis but he has benefited even greater from his technique than Corey. Stop complaining for the sake of complaining.
Itâs annoying to me when someone says they are heavy again. I mean.. when were they not heavy? Solway Firth was super heavy in their previous album. As Slipknot has progressed over the years, they have had to consider other factors like being playable on the radio and reaching to more audience so they have incorporated more melodic components to their songs. Given all these circumstances, they have tried to balance who they are with the forces of the marketplace. Now that they are not obligated to Roadrunner, Iâm curious where things will head!
True true
Someway Firth is one of the best songs in all of their albums, itâs up there with three nil and metabolic.
Nero Forte was absolutely Epic definitely one of my favorite songs from Slipknot in a long time
Some songs from their first album had a lot of melodic tones like Purity, Wait and Bleed, Me Inside and Spit it Out. Iowa is the closest album to have almost no melody in Corey's vocals apart from My Plague. Point is Slipknot have always had melody to their songs
@@masterknife8423 yas
Really loving Sid's mask, almost makes me wonder if he's a hidden f'd up 3rd member of Daft Punk
It's amazing that Corey still has a voice the way he sings. I mean try singing a few songs in your car and see how bad your throat hurts and how well your voice holds out. Then do that over 20 years. It's amazing.
that just means youre doing it wrong if your throat hurts
Forreal his longevity is utterly insane. His voice has no expiration date. Thereâs even been a few points where heâs sounded rough over the years- and it makes you think âdamn maybe time is catching up to Coreyâ, just for him to come back on their next tour cycle sounding like an absolute monster.
A lot of metal singers work with the vocal coach Melissa Cross, and she teaches them how to scream without destroying their voice.
I sing/scream with slipknot songs all the time for up to an hour at a time and my voice doesn't hurt at the end. In fact it feels more like a warm up and my voice is ready to take on more.
He's got that neck helping him đ
I like his vocals on this chorus, it gives it almost like a choir feel over the rest of it. Sounds like layered vocals, but it works really well.
That's my least favorite part of the lot đ€·ââïž
@@JoeLaFon3 agreed
@@JoeLaFon3 Iâve never liked the new slipknot chorusâs
Agreed. Overall I love this song
It's like listening to stone sour
This band is amazing. The Slipknot culture really means something to me.
Thank you for all of your time and effort and putting your heart and energy into making some awesome music. Hopefully this isn't the official end of Slipknot. If it is, I still appreciate everything they have given to us.
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From one maggot to another, we love you bro â€ïž
Yes, for sure. Slipknot is frikken awesome, and they have the best fans!!
Saw them live, for the first time, this past spring! Blew my mind dude!! And I didn't even have the best seats
@@chadcassidy1580 Exactly!
This and Chapeltown Rag certainly satisfy the heavy factor, which is well done and entertaining. That being said, I am even more excited to hear the poppier and experimental moments on the record. I want the weirdness to go as hard as the heavy if that makes sense.
Based take, I've been seeing too many haters
That makes perfect sense. đ
I really hope they put a song in their like scissors or Iowa.
Absolutely same here! Great comment.
Yeah something like Virus of Life. One of their best songs imo
am i old enough that Psychosocial is now a "classic"
Itâs only 12 years old I think. Iâd call it a definitive slipknot songs idk about classic yet
Haven't watched this yet, but if Finn doesn't slam his head on the table during an honest reaction I'm gonna be disappointed...
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@@liq8898 how is it trash though?.
@@theirishpotato6588 I canât speak for anyone else but I wouldnât go as far as trash. Itâs definitely disappointing. Not catchy at all to me. Seems like itâs recycled
@@titsonaboar5654 I disagree with that last part personally
@@theirishpotato6588 ive watched the video a few times but I just canât be sold on it. Wouldnât be surprised if the album put it in better perspective. I hope the album brings me back to eventually liking it. But the past three albums including this one have had this generic sound Iâm not a fan of but the previous two have had some redemption as a whole
Corey's vocals sound insanely good on this. I can tell that he's been working on his fry scream instead of just yelling the whole time.
I know Iowa is the album people are most stuck on, but I've always been more into the first one.
Slipknot never fails me though. Even their not as great stuff, is still far better than most bands of their stature release, as far as new music.
Im 27 and Iâm from all hope is gone I was a teenager at that time, I stayed stocked in that album for long time being My fav, but now my fav has been the first one.
Same.
Always been a self titled man as well. By subliminal verses I had graduated to more extreme spectrums of the metal and hardcore spectrum. I did catch them a few years ago at a festival and they played a whole set of mostly self titled tracks. Brought me back to when I seen them in 01.
I agree, debut is their best. After that it's Vol. 3 for me, i think they nailed the experimentation there. Iowa only comes third. It was even bit too chaotic for my taste. And it was them at their most death metal, i'm not a huge fan of that genre... I'm really into the part of the Knot where they had lot of hc punk and rap influence. Spit It Out, Liberate, My Plague, Three Nil and so on.
love the self titled and Iowa. self titled your is the only gig Iâve missed from them đ
I really loved Chapeltown Rag, this one is less oldschool-sounding but I still dig it. Corey sounds way better here than he did on the previous two albums, and the heavy ass part around 2:50 into the song is supremely dope. Love Sid's new mask too.
Yeah, Chapeltown Rag is a banger!
Yeah, Chapeltown Rag is a banger!
Im surprised no one has mentioned how much that opening/main riff sounds so much like (sic) too. It almost feels like if (sic) was written for vol. 3.
I agree with solid A. đđ
"Joey and whoever else". Damn bro give my dude Chris some respectđ
And yeah, I love the song. Both songs we've gotten have a form of that frantic style that self titled had as well as elements from all of their other albums (definitely those guitars, still sound just like vol.3 in the best way). I definitely prefer it to chapeltown rag and I can't wait to see what else they have in store for us.
Paul Gray
@@drinksprite we all kind of know "death of original members" relates closest with Paul since he died while in the band (of course rip to him and joey) so I'll give that a pass. The fact that he just dropped "and whoever else" is what gets me. I get why he said it, sometimes it's hard to remember but it's still really funny.
"Slipknot is heavy again"
Solway Firth: Am I a joke to you?
Edit: Also...keytar? That doesn't even look like one, my guy, he's literally just holding his keyboard đ€Š
Yeah, this title doesn't make any sense.
Solway Firth is a lot better than this song. And this is coming from someone that doesn't even like WANYK as a whole.
Red flag and orphan as well, last album wasn't soft at all
Pretty solid track, the production definitely feels like the old school albums which seems to be what was missing from the last albums. Also talking about Joey's uniqueness, Max Portnoy of Tallah imo is the closest to matching his style but yeah Jay does a pretty damn good job as well!
Bro I love tallah
@@Agonized_Soul yeah man they're awesome đ€
No fucking way, you guys are Tallah fans?? Ah man, I thought I was the only one. Those guys are super underrated, especially Max.
@@MiniMagit yeah man was into them since the ep, the last two tracks are getting better and better, Vanilla Paste is a masterpiece imo đ
Definitely agree with this. Max and really everyone in Tallah has big old school Slipknot energy
Slipknot is itâs own genre of music
They experiment and so what they want and keep making bangers all with its own sound
Exactly lol
Yeah but itâs getting slayerish to me. Seems lazy at this point. But Iâm all for the people who like it. New fans every day and Iâd rather them get the excitement I did for their other material than to be salty bc Iâm wanting them to top themselves
Not really, very unoriginal stuff
@@titsonaboar5654 Yeah, sound lazy af, they are stuck in a formula of pussy choruses then heavy pacing and repeat... im not getting that feeling you had back in the day when you could tell they were making a different album, like, just compare sound transitions like IOWA-VOL.3-AHIG to VOL.5 to barely noticeable transitions like VOL.5-WANYK-this new singles... the only thing you can tell is that Corey Taylor is been practicing to sound consistent and not garbage as in Grey chapter. for the rest of the band, generic AF
Slipknot has such a signature sound and it shows. They are like if Kiss were extremely talented musicians.
Presentation and sound are always on point with Slipknot.
The first 3 albums will always be their best
It's OK I still say there first album is the best nothing they have ever done will ever beat it I barely listen to slipknot was a huge fan seen them 2 times but I seriously always go back to self titled because only one of us walks away
Sounds good, Sounds nothing like they're initial few albums though. I get some vibes from the Subliminal Verses but that album has way more in common with the first 2 than anything that came after. This reminds more of All Is Gone which is ok, I did not mind them going more industrial at the time.
I love how they rounded off the beginning of the end reveal with Sic because for most of us that's the first thing we heard. I had no idea who Slipknot were in June '99 I just saw this gnarly looking album cover with a bunch of dudes with masks in the metal section listened to it and found my tribe.
Dude, anybody who thinks these new singles are their âold soundâ clearly have no fucking idea what Slipknot is.
10/10 Slipknot song. Def had some elements of the old sound but ultimately this is a FRESH Slipknot sound on both songs of this album so far. Jay is INSANE on this one man. Might also be one of my favorite Corey vocal performances ever
Fresh is the word . Sound better with Jay, more evolved and less thrash garage style
Craig is just holding his sampler machine
I hate to be one of those "they used to be better" fans but I could tell you every riff, lyric, sample and drum fill from the first two albums, and sorta the third, but I can't say that about any other album. There was plenty to like from them, but the first two, for me, we're extra special and none of them had songs or parts that I wanted to skip. I know they've got at least one more of those in them. Oh and Jay is super talented but I still miss Joey. I don't know how Satan packed all of that badass into his 5'3" frame.
If there's one thing I've learned as a millenial metalhead, it is that every single time slipknot releases something, the general critique will always say they're "back to the roots" and "haven't sounded as heavy since Iowa". It's been like this since AHIG and I can only say, despite me being a huge fan, last 3 records have sounded moreso the same to me.
Not dissin, it's just that it's always the same vibe.
After subliminal they started going somewhere that the larger fanbase was not a fan of. Personally after I heard Slipknot on the radio I was done but that's because I'm a poor know nothing textbook punker try hard... Now on W.A.N.Y.K there was something there. It had a few really good songs which hasn't happened in a long time. Once they got commercialized they lost the spark. Hopefully they keep the trajectory though. Nothing will touch those first 2 albums but that's just nostalgia talk. I like them angry
Absolutely THE SAME thoughts.
"Nobody can be like Dimebag", my brother, Pantera literally got everything from Exhorder
Love that you can hear a lot more of Sid scratching on these new tracks
I was a little underwhelmed with it watching this review but after actually listening to it loudly in my car I have to say this song kicks ass. Maybe not the best ever but it's a damn good song that can be added to a playlist
Great point, some music is meant to be played a certain way to really get into it.
it's not close to the sound of iowa, what I feel about slipknot lately is that of their best songs they take a part and try to put together a song and it doesn't always work out well
It doesn't have to be like Iowa to sound good. Nero forte, Solway Firth, and plenty of other songs are just as heavy guitar tone wise and drumming wise, just with more melody and technicality which is something Iowa lacked. Iowa is my favorite album but it can still sound good without sounding like Iowa. Solway Firth is an example like I said where it's just as heavy but more technicality and in some parts have more melody. To me, that's Slipknot at it's best
It really made me feel 15 again!!! Canât wait for the album!!!
"I stand corrected" lol my fav part of video lol
Slipknot and Lady Gaga are my 2 favorite things to listen to in this world so anyone who can incorporate a mention of my girl into a Slipknot video is my hero for life! I consider Gaga an entertainment genius and eternal legend who the world will never forget with the impact she has had and Corey Taylor is catching up to her with the love I have for him, especially after his very recent rants! Iowa is a religious experience for me, I can listen to that and then listen to Gaga because I'm crazy like that! Grew up with metal but as I matured I started to appreciate all sorts of music, especially a voice like Lady Gaga's! Not that anyone cares, just had to rant, thanks dude, love your community!âïž
You know this guys channel has legit subscribers and the world loves Slipknot when subscribers and views match on the second day itâs released!
Bro after all these years you just helped me realize Clown is living Doug Funny's musical dreams
Jay's father was Bruce Springsteen's drummer and he was the drummer/band leader on Late Night with Conan O'Brien so it's safe to say that his talent came naturally.
"It's not grabbing me yet" - He said before the music even started xD
they played this live when I saw them in May. Loved it
Corey does some brutal screaming in this one, he sounds great!
This is my first introduction to Slipknot. Really surprised by this song in a good way. I grew up listening to hardcore and kinda missed this era. But hearing this makes me want to go back and check out some earlier Slipknot albums. Any recommendations?
Start from the beginning with Self-titled or their second album Iowa.
I started listening to Slipknot back in 2004 and their first 3 albums are still my favorites.
First one.
I'd go for these for a good range of Slipknot:
Self Titled: (sic), Spit it Out, Scissors
Iowa: People=Shit, Disasterpiece, I Am Hated, Iowa
Vol.3: Three Nil, Duality, Before I Forget
AHIG: Sulfur, Psychosocial, Snuff
Grey Chapter: XIX, The Devil in I, Goodbye, The Negative One
WANYK: Unsainted, Nero Forte, Solway Firth
Giving the intro track a listen before each album really helps set the tone of the album as well. Welcome to the world of Slipknot
highly suggest you dont start here and start with self titled and iowa thats primeee slipknot
If you listen closely in the chorus you can hear the background vocals with a kind of death metal UGHHH or something like that
6:14 So, I'm one of those idiots who didn't pay attention for a long while, and am only just now realizing that Jay Weinberg has been Slipknot's drummer for a while now. And all I have to say is, they couldn't have picked a better drummer. Weinberg is great on drums, a real beast, just like his old man.
Lol, âLiberatchy Clownâ. I luv it.
Slipknotâs last album was pretty good!! They have always been consistent. Hopefully this album is good.
Iâm really want a disco Slipknot logo now. Loving the shiny S
This is a song that's best appreciated live. They played it, when they last played Toronto. It fucking slayed.
I donât think they did
@@nathanielcava4128 I'd had a few beers, but they played something off the new record. I'm pretty sure this was it.
Other than the clean vocals it's great. Maybe it will grow on me like "Nero Forte".
Nero is fire
It is.
It will grow on you trust me lol it's fkn dope man and heavy as fuck
My fav song
New album=new tour. I'm licking my chops. đ€
Slipknot can release a song and no one can actually copy it.
Self Titled, Iowa and Vol 3 are some of my all time favourite albums
I took my 13 year old daughter to see them and Cypress Hill back in June. Her second concert.
Legit got serious iowa vibes from this which brought me back to my 11 year old self when I first bought the album.pure joy
Cory said the new album is going to be like a heavy version of volume 3 and I would say so far he's right on the money
it took me several listens to start liking it...gets better each time...
David Andersson of Soilwork said it best: "Teenage angst gets replaced with middle-age anxiety".
Except Slipknot weren't teenagers back in 1999
I just saw their Instagram, they have posted all their new songs on the album.
I need to have an old jaded man moment, I really wish they would stop making new music and become a legacy band. Iâve been disappointed by every release since 2008, but their live show has only gotten better. Maybe I shouldnât care about what other people do, but I needed to scream at a cloud for a moment
I would be okay with this. I personally wouldn't go see them live again. I've seen them twice with original members and I'm content with that, but for them to continue playing live for the new fans and fans that just want to see them again, that would be cool. But I wish they would quit releasing new, uninspired crap.
It sounds just like the rest of their albums
Pretty damn good song. And the response that they are in their legacy phase is spot on. These bands could just go out and play their greatest hits forever and still make bank without the risk of flopping on a new record. Luckily Slipknot always manages to make a banger or two each album so the show always has something new to offer.
I think the end they are referring to is the end of the roadrunner contract. Iâm sure after that they will likely create their own label
Gotta be honest Finn, I do disagree with quite a bit of your opinions lol but respect them none the less! Found your channel a few months ago, it's cool to see a music analysis channel that's so consistent with their content! Much love Finn, keep doing your thing!
Another great song by them. Also I liked that you mentioned Fates Warning when talking about The Chapeltown Rag' chorus @7:21 even though FW's vocal style isn't your thing. They're an underrated progressive metal band.
I am really excited for this record. I don't know if its truly the end of slipknot but.. I am here for these last 2 songs.
that first verse just RIPS
You know that's funny this tittle mentions this cuz the first thing that I said when hearing this was "this sounds like their old shit" this one rocks. Maybe even starting to hear rumors that slipknot may even be going independent. It's getting interesting. This song rocks hard too I've been blaring this in my car.
Iâve waited months for this other single track for months now and I am not disappointed the anticipation that I built up was satisfied canât wait for September 30th
That weird bridge part (where you mention Jay/Joey) almost has a Between the Buried and Me feel....this is pretty good! Neat songwriting.
Saw them earlier this year. Fantastic live act! Haven't headbanged this hard since my teens
'Black bugs' by Regurgitator with the cartoon bunny rabbit playing the keytar is the only exception to the rule...man that's a good song/film clip. I really like this as well, despite the gimp xD
This music video looks like way you see if you go into the wrong bar one night.
I absolutely love this track! Both this and Chapeltown Rag are reminiscent of their older stuff while still sounding fresh, so I'm really excited to see what else this album has to offer.
This album is their last album under roadrunner that's basically the meaning of the title cause clown did say they were going independent
This definitely takes me back to Iowa oh my gosh
I hate all those people who say oh they are back! They never left
My issue with Slipknot's recent stuff is the songwriting just isn't as iconic and memorable as the stuff that made them legendary to begin with. This song kinda falls into that category, it's technically good, but I'd still rather listen to Iowa or vol 3. I know it's hard to expect much more out of a band their age since their pigeonholed by their fanbase and whatnot.
I will say tho, a band that recently came back with new stuff 30 years into their career is Stabbing Westward (not exactly the best band of all time, but still good). They put out a song called "I am Nothing" earlier this year which was easily as good as anything they've ever done and their sound literally hasn't aged a day since the 90s. So if they can do it, so can Slipknot and all these other bands...
Exactly right the riffs are decent but the songwriting is not
Of course the songwriting is not memorable at all when the two primary songwriters are out of the band
@@user-lk7lp9pg5q very true I have forgotten about that
@@atvena i really tried to get into slipknot post joey but i really cant, the songwriting really is sub par compared to older albums
@@user-lk7lp9pg5q and just his drumming sure Joey was loose but jay is just loose whereas Joey was creative
"It's been 45 seconds and it hasn't hooked me yet" the song hasn't even started .__.
Thatâs exactly my point
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA I just thought it was a funny line.
This chorus sounds a lot like Phoenix Ignition from Thrice's debut Identity Crisis
Slipknot are easily one of my favorite bands of ALL TIME and I absolutely LOVE the vast majority of this track but if Iâm being honest the riff style/beat theyâre using at 4:13 pretty much matches the opening riff to almost every major single of theirs since âThe Grey Chapterâ, and for me itâs getting a little stale đ€·đ»ââïž The rest of the track is amazing but when that riff kicked in I kind of eye rolled A LITTLE.
I also kind of feel like Clown isnât pushing the visual identity of the Knot in the same way he used to, again it feels very much like the last two albums.
That said, thatâs me being SUUUUUPER picky! I think theyâre absolutely killing it as a band after all these years and deserve every inch of love and adoration they get!
Its amazing how well his vocals improved after he quit smoking
Main riff sounds exactly as all out of life
For me, it's slipknots best pop song for better and worse. That's not an insult, I like the song, but it feels very clean and radio-friendly. I like it for what it is, but it won't be for all knotheads
Yeah, I gotta agree with you my dude. Long-time Maggot myself, and love everything these dudes do, but this song didn't quite scratch the itch I needed scratching. I will say after about 4 subsequent listens it has grown on me a lot though.
@@LaughingGhastly it's grown on me too, the chorus is brilliant
Sounds too much like stone sour
This to me is the best they've sounded since Vol 3, I was not expecting to be this hyped for the album but here we are
Their best albums are self tilted, Iowa, vol 3 and everything after that I hated unfortunately
People are so obsessed with Iowa that they could rename every song on it and just keep releasing it and everybody would still listen to it.
I don't understand people. "We want something new" bands give them new and then people want them to go back to their old self. People can't just be happy with anything anymore.
I think it's dope that I'm seeing you on other channels and stuff. GG
I highly doubt it. Same was for WANYK...the first single, sounded almost IOWA level strong and then the whole album dropped with like 4 filler tunes, a bunch of sing-alongs etc.
Cant point my finger exactly but ever since The Gray Chapter they had this same sound but 90 % of the songs arent catchy or have good hooks, just songs but even as a fan I can barely remember the name of songs from last two albums.
First verse riff sounds like Wait and Bleed
I really like it, best stuff theyâve released in years.
Look at the cloth with the makeup and then look up âHedwig and the Angry Inch - Wicked little townâ (the original not the reprise) at the end of the scene hedwig wipes off her face and it looks exactly like that cloth. Iâm wondering if itâs an obscure reference to that somehow?
Interesting! I â€ïž Hedwig so much. The whole soundtrack is rad!
@@missvincent7017 Same! So many good songs, the story is incredible too.
I thought the exact same thing about the panty mask. "Why are they dipping underwear in the water? And why did someone's kid draw a face on them?"
The way you explained their sound being loose is exactly what I was trying to describe in my other comment lol
A day to remember just dropped a fresh new track where you at ?
I like Slipknot, but I can't stop thinking about "CMFT cant be stopped". Some shit you cant unsee, man.
My biggest issue with modern Slipknot is they ruin their heaviest new tracks with some soft chorus. I know Slipknot has always had choruses, but in Iowa and the self titled album they had a lot of heavy songs that didnât have soft choruses.
Don't act so suprised. Thus is Slipknot ~SIC!!!!
This song is just like chapeltown rag for me. I even play the song back in my mind and figure out which song is which.
Sounds just like the last two albums