Are The Backrooms Ruined? Ft. Kane Pixels & Broogli

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    The Backrooms has gone through many ups and downs, And in recent times, has been thought to be ruined by many who were fans of it originally. Was it Kane Pixels Fault? Was it the Wiki's Fault? Was it the children's fault? In this video I go over and explain weather or not the backrooms have been ruined.
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    0:00 - The Downfall
    8:25 - Built By Gamers Parody
    9:18 - Kids are to blame?
    13:30 - Kane Pixels
    40:13 - Scentbird
    42:25 - Broogli
    53:38 - Is it ruined?
    58:30 - Outro
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  • @Raymundo_2112
    @Raymundo_2112  Před 5 měsíci +184

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    • @connor48880
      @connor48880 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Yes, sir!

    • @Iwillstealallyourgirls
      @Iwillstealallyourgirls Před 5 měsíci +8

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    • @JamesWagner-vv9iz
      @JamesWagner-vv9iz Před 5 měsíci

      Okay but I did not appreciate some transphobic parts

    • @gachaheat4kuploads779
      @gachaheat4kuploads779 Před 5 měsíci

      I felt as if i was not appreciative of the transphobic parts though

    • @Iwillstealallyourgirls
      @Iwillstealallyourgirls Před 5 měsíci +8

      @@JamesWagner-vv9iz How is it transphobic?

  • @z_erinaceous_z
    @z_erinaceous_z Před 5 měsíci +2730

    It definitely depends on what side of the backrooms fandom you're in, the backrooms can be good if you ignore the people who constantly content farm it to make shitty kids content.

    • @outrageousholidayoh-2178
      @outrageousholidayoh-2178 Před 5 měsíci +107

      absolutely.
      There are treasures inside the community that get overshadowed far too often because people are addicted to talking about the negatives rather than the positives.
      I can name many articles that have quality and effort put into them that are well written.

    • @jenniferhernandez1842
      @jenniferhernandez1842 Před 5 měsíci +47

      This is basically the same with anything.

    • @MaxConsumesDeadHamsters
      @MaxConsumesDeadHamsters Před 5 měsíci +11

      I use it for dreamcore tbh

    • @JamesWagner-vv9iz
      @JamesWagner-vv9iz Před 5 měsíci +8

      I think that I didn't appreciate the transphobic parts

    • @mimilopmemes7915
      @mimilopmemes7915 Před 5 měsíci +36

      @@JamesWagner-vv9iz .......what? what part of the backrooms is transphobic?

  • @General_Alch
    @General_Alch Před 4 měsíci +193

    I once saw a comment in an earlier post of the backrooms saying: "what a cool concept, I hope kids won't find it and add a bunch of monsters"

  • @trevorswims5754
    @trevorswims5754 Před 5 měsíci +1093

    The problem with the backrooms and other digital horror on the internet is that it gets so popular that some content creators see it as a fad, and kids are always wanting to get into something that's scary or non childish because its cool to them. The real problem in my opinion are the kids content creators who put popular things into their videos just because its the hottest new thing on the internet. A lot of good indie horror games are watered-down by these types of people too because children are always talking about those games and soon, those content creators hear about it and then do whatever they can to make those horror things childish (theres also the shameless mascot horror games with literal child mascots and very little horror, but I wasn't talking about those). Some people for get that these horror related things on the internet are HORROR icons and not something that should be looked at as something for 8-year olds.

    • @ethandtheangryenglishguy8253
      @ethandtheangryenglishguy8253 Před 5 měsíci +31

      I wish I didn’t happen so often too because I’ve been going crazy about it

    • @imspoilerina9228
      @imspoilerina9228 Před 5 měsíci +20

      Why do kids ruin everything 😔

    • @ethandtheangryenglishguy8253
      @ethandtheangryenglishguy8253 Před 5 měsíci +22

      @@imspoilerina9228 because they like consuming things, that’s why

    • @silverdededestruction2197
      @silverdededestruction2197 Před 5 měsíci

      @@imspoilerina9228 Kids like to consume things and the things that many children raised on the internet love a lot tend to be stuff initially catered to adults.
      It's often seen online that children want to try and be adults or act older than their age, which is pretty clear to see when you see them on websites that have age requirements like Twitter (So you have a flood of children lying about their age as a result).
      As a result of trying to look mature, they join and watch media that are blatantly not meant for children (GTA, Warhammer, Horror in general, etc.
      Children participate in online fandoms with people way above their age range and as more of them start to pop in, there are likely going to be more than a few people who notice the large influx of children coming in. And the things you could do about these children range more neutral-positive actions from telling them off, guiding them through the fandom, recommending them more age appropriate media, etc. To more negative actions such as creating content for the fandom more catered to children and making as much of it as possible to gain money from either ad revenue or from merchandise.

    • @rosesred9221
      @rosesred9221 Před 5 měsíci +61

      @@imspoilerina9228Mate, they are kids, they consume content they like, I don’t blame them. As stated by the video we were all kids once, and done the same thing.
      You SHOULD NOT get mad at the kids, but get mad at the people dumbing stuff down intentionally to market towards kids. Kids will be kids and want to contribute stuff, and that’s fine, it’s how they grow, and learn throughout aging. But the people who are making “Huggy Wuggy in backrooms!!!????” Are the people who you should really be blaming.

  • @Broogli
    @Broogli Před 5 měsíci +1350

    Pls let me in the movie, Kane 🤓
    Great vid , had fun being in it bro❤️

  • @durango7002
    @durango7002 Před 5 měsíci +887

    i think the most unsettling part about the backrooms is that in the "original" version, you were alone in an infinite area. The only thing that could really kill you was yourself (other than starving, dying of thirst, etc.) and something about that is terrifying, never encountering another person, another living creature, literally stuck in some sort of hellish purgatory. The idea of going mad in somewhere like this is horrifying. EDIT: apparently you weren't alone in the original but would only very rarely encounter something

    • @humanoidshrek5524
      @humanoidshrek5524 Před 5 měsíci +27

      doesnt time not pass in the backrooms, so that you wont starve/get hungry? so ur just straight up stuck unless you kys, all alone, wandering endless, blank corridors forever.

    • @sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf
      @sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf Před 5 měsíci +87

      @@humanoidshrek5524the og didn’t say anything about that so nobody knows

    • @sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf
      @sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf Před 5 měsíci +15

      There were creatures in the og back rooms lol

    • @HYDROCARBON_XD
      @HYDROCARBON_XD Před 5 měsíci +9

      It isn’t infinite,you clearly didn’t pay attention to the original post.

    • @humanoidshrek5524
      @humanoidshrek5524 Před 5 měsíci +49

      @@HYDROCARBON_XD it might as well be. you aren’t gonna walk how many million square miles the backrooms is. either way it’s irrelevant because everything looks the same.

  • @Superguy-oh5lt
    @Superguy-oh5lt Před 5 měsíci +134

    I always thought of the backrooms as three separate entities: the original post and it’s vague story, the early fandoms lore heavy series of levels based on liminal photos, and then the over saturated kids stuff. If they stay separate I think the first two can be really captivating(in their own different ways), but doing that gets harder by the day.

    • @raldimoment
      @raldimoment Před 5 měsíci +15

      The fourth entity is all the weirdcore crap. Eyes plastered literally everywhere and all that.

    • @chukyuniqul
      @chukyuniqul Před 5 měsíci +4

      The idea of "levels" in and of itself should have been anathema to the backrooms and falls squarely in the childish group imo, because it categorizes something that shouldn't be categorized. Because when something's in a category, it's understandable and when it's understandable it's less frightening.
      The fact it all started to ring like the holders series didn't do it any favors, either.

    • @raldimoment
      @raldimoment Před 5 měsíci +12

      @@chukyuniqul Levels would've been cool if they were as mysterious as the yellow rooms themselves.
      They only fucked up with them once things started to be more "clear" and less "mysterious". Would've been much better if we just... _Didn't know._

    • @wix-1-3dgcjt6
      @wix-1-3dgcjt6 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@chukyuniqul unpopular opinion: the idea of levels is actually good and could be epic but it was badly executed

    • @chukyuniqul
      @chukyuniqul Před 2 měsíci

      @@wix-1-3dgcjt6 i was about to hard disagree before you added the execution. I mean I still disagree but each his own

  • @DoubleNN
    @DoubleNN Před 5 měsíci +228

    For me the whole appeal of the backrooms was the sort of cosmic horror element, it was kind of the real life equivalent of the Minecraft far lands, like when you go far enough away from the centre of the universe reality kind of glitches out, something like the dev room for the universe or the back end of things, you know, the backrooms.
    As far as I'm concerned it was being slowly corrupted even as far back as the latter part of the original 4chan post - even the suggestion that there should be monsters in there feels like a betrayal of the original concept. Then again, it's the edge of perceivable reality, things aren't going to work the same way as in earth, so having to deal with things like that is arguably quite reasonable.
    It's when people try to catalogue or give concrete lore about what you would find in there that it ruins it - it's not supposed to be understandable, it's supposed to be cosmic and esoteric, making no sense to our conception of reality to the point where even scientific examination would not reveal anything. I think the Kane Pixels depiction got this right, but most people really don't.
    I guess that's just the tendency of a lot of pieces of media, where you have this kind of cool concept which only works when it's subtle and mysterious, but people have this instinct to flesh it out. The Force from Star Wars is the best example of this I can think of, initially it was so vague and mysterious of a thing that Han Solo didn't think it existed. With it's status now as the absurdly powerful telekinesis, no one would doubt it.
    The backrooms work because you get the sense that you are *not* supposed to be here, but turning it into a theme park where there are explicit rules for how to survive is quite the opposite of that.

    • @CursedImagesEveryday
      @CursedImagesEveryday Před 5 měsíci +6

      I mean the lore on the wikidot about backrooms hardly makes any sense to be honest. But if you interpret in as a canon then it becomes unsettling. The major issue tho is the fact that there is to much contradicting lore and cringe that it's obvious it's just some bullshit from fanboys of cheap backroom video creators for kids...

    • @DoubleNN
      @DoubleNN Před 5 měsíci +12

      @@CursedImagesEveryday I think that the Pixilated Kane was also right about the weird insistence people have on a singular canon. This is my headcanon :)

    • @ajconti7362
      @ajconti7362 Před 4 měsíci +3

      There are no levels to the backrooms. The child driven lore is stupid, the goofy monsters are stupid, gamifying it is stupid. Kids ruin everything...

    • @benclark4823
      @benclark4823 Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@ajconti7362 you do realize that even in the original 4-chan post it *heavily implies* there is something there in the backrooms. 🤥

    • @daegnaxqelil2733
      @daegnaxqelil2733 Před 3 měsíci

      yeah adding monsters wouldn't be necessary but if it's done well , why not. blame the way those kids put monsters instead of simply condemning those monsters

  • @meburritoloco7475
    @meburritoloco7475 Před 5 měsíci +232

    I feel the oversaturation of the backrooms is kind of what killed it. The SCP Foundation is kind of a mess currently, but they still kind of self-regulate through the community and it's my first internet-horror community. A lot of the SCP's have really high-quality writing that makes it feel as if you actually stumbled onto a piece of hidden media that's not mean to be seen. A lot of the SCP's aren't really great, but the great ones do raise to the top and as such, a lot people first exposure to it are these really well written stories about anomalous objects. The SCP Foundation isn't as quaint and small as it used to be, but I still find it intriguing and go back to it every now and again to read on new great SCP's. The backrooms lost my interest real quick once I saw some clickbait thing like "OMG we made it to backrooms level 1 million?!" It felt like it gamified everything with no real sense of identity.

    • @datrtzhush3734
      @datrtzhush3734 Před 5 měsíci +12

      well said, honestly my thoughts too, and i will also admit, i was the same with scp as a kid as a lot of kids with the backrooms, not exactly but similar

    • @Existing_Productions
      @Existing_Productions Před 4 měsíci +5

      I hate when people try to make the backrooms like scp. It's a whole different thing. I dislike Kane Pixels version because it has an evil company that has found the backrooms.

    • @pootzmagootz
      @pootzmagootz Před 4 měsíci +23

      ​@@Existing_ProductionsBackrooms is similar to SCP-Foundation in the way that it's a collaborative-writing wiki project. Anyone who feels like it can add to the lore of the worlds by writing entries, but SCP-Foundation generally has better quality control than the Backrooms which is why it's mostly more respected
      Additionally, A-Sync (the Kane Pixel corporation) is not supposed to be overtly evil, they're just a typical cooperation. Kane doesn't like to portray characters as definitively evil or good

    • @Blorckits
      @Blorckits Před 3 měsíci +3

      I'd say that most scp articles are pretty decent, as if they are of low writing quality, people on the wiki are not afraid to downvote them and get them deleted. After a certain amount of downvotes, articles get deleted on the scp wiki.

    • @Subject_Keter
      @Subject_Keter Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@Blorckits When the Daybreak abd SCP 5000 why, those ones would be laughed out if written in the past

  • @NineAceDev
    @NineAceDev Před 5 měsíci +85

    The problem with the wiki version of the Backrooms is that it has very absurd lore, and it is catalogued with “levels” and “entities”(which, let’s be honest, seems like it’s copying scp). On top of this, it has been memed to death and so many things in the “lore” are clearly done just for jokes. This is why it isn’t scary.
    But then Kane Pixels stepped in. Kane Pixels’ series fully scrapped everything the wiki established(mostly because he just decided to do his own thing), and completely started anew. His version of The Backrooms completely embraces the mystery and eerieness of the concept. You aren’t supposed to survive the backrooms, you aren’t supposed to survive the creatures there. Speaking of, the bacteria monsters are so well executed because you don’t know what they actually look like and what they are capable of. If you fall into The Backrooms, it’s basically game over and you don’t even know it. The Backrooms are supposed to be a creepy, liminal, and (mostly) empty labyrinth with no end. And that alone is what makes it truly terrifying.

    • @sandrahughes4117
      @sandrahughes4117 Před 5 měsíci +5

      Exactly, although i hate what K.P accidently did by causing the content farms to get ahold of it, the whole entity thing can be really greatly executed like how it was in the orignal post, the monster was barely described and all you know is that if u hear it beg for mercy, or maybe u want to die because u have nothing else to do and stuff in this liminal hell

    • @Meanytang
      @Meanytang Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@sandrahughes4117 The wiki in a way planted that seed for content farms (even before all of the fame it was a lot worse), kane just really sparked it. Its also died down a lot, and I hope the movie changes that view.

  • @scootinkermie
    @scootinkermie Před 5 měsíci +60

    In my opinion, everything on the internet gets ruined, so either you ignore it, let it be ruined for you and move on, or be the change you wanna see

  • @_JoJoEnthusiast_
    @_JoJoEnthusiast_ Před 5 měsíci +225

    in my opinion the backrooms have never really provoked horror but more of terror and i think that makes it much more scary than most things trying to invoke horror

    • @ek0dev
      @ek0dev Před 5 měsíci +11

      I think it's the other way around. Unless my definitions are mixed up, isn't terror more of a "OH CRAP THERE'S A THING CHASING ME" and horror more of a "oh no, this is definitely a bad situation" but in a less adrenaline way? (Sorry if that made no sense, let me know if I should rephrase that)

    • @JustAPersonaFan
      @JustAPersonaFan Před 5 měsíci +25

      ⁠@@ek0devterror is defined more by dread/tension/anticipation, and horror is the typical shock/fear/disgust reaction you mostly expect. So yeah, you have them mixed up

    • @ek0dev
      @ek0dev Před 5 měsíci +13

      @@JustAPersonaFan oh, my bad lol
      In that case I agree with what was originally said

    • @thegrimharvest
      @thegrimharvest Před 5 měsíci +3

      That checks out. Might I suggest adding in anxiety and or paranoia, maybe alienation as contributing factors? The terror of the backrooms is the unknown in almost a familiar shape, but utterly alien and seemingly impossible architecture and devoid of apparent meaning or logical sense. It's the unknown unknowable.

    • @magnawaves
      @magnawaves Před 5 měsíci +4

      I didn't know there was a difference. I have learned something today

  • @connor48880
    @connor48880 Před 5 měsíci +321

    I might be wrong about this, but I think prior to Wendigoon’s interview with him, Kane had been pretty hush hush when it came to interviews
    Glad he’s decided to open up and do them because not only is he very well-spoken, he’s pretty funny too

  • @penguinsrockrgr8yt216
    @penguinsrockrgr8yt216 Před 5 měsíci +83

    I 100% agree with the “we would have been those kids who are into the backrooms but don’t understand it”
    I remember being hardcore into fnaf as a kid/teen
    And while now I can appreciate the original 3 games as their own little story and even enjoy the ending of FNAF 6 as a kid I really didn’t get the horror aspects or appreciate the story beyond the “vague mystery dead kids ooooo”

    • @youre75waterandimthirsty76
      @youre75waterandimthirsty76 Před 5 měsíci +8

      Same here with fnaf, but also creepypasta. I have a feeling many people tend to forget that they were the same young kids in fandoms that were treated as if they were ruining the fandoms, which is kinda unfair because they have just as much of a right to be a part of it as adults or older teens do imo. Sure, they can be annoying as hell and don't fully understand lore and stuff like that, but they don't need to to get the same enjoyment out of it as we do. Being a child and behaving like one is treated as a crime more than ever and imo that's more annoying than the children themselves. As if we were any better with mlg videos and dank memes n stuff and hadn't been treated as if we were the worst generation to ever grace this planet as well.

    • @BlueTyphoon2017
      @BlueTyphoon2017 Před 4 měsíci +2

      ⁠@@youre75waterandimthirsty76well, tbf MLG and dank memes kind of where meant to be random and all over the place, they where garbage but the point is that I think they knew they where, and it was meant to be funny junk mostly. I don’t think the other fandoms are meant to intentionally be junk like MLG stuff. However, other then that, I completely agree with the rest of your comment about adults and older teenagers acting higher then though about like, 5 year olds.

  • @SwaggyG_2102
    @SwaggyG_2102 Před 5 měsíci +174

    One of the biggest issues that led to The Backrooms decline is the same thing that is currently afflicting the analog horror genre,
    Oversaturation and unoriginal exploitation.
    When a concept such as this gets this big and receives mainstream attention, then it's only matter of time before people start getting less creative and more lazy, and start churning out unoriginal content solely for the sake of getting lots of views and making money off of it.
    It makes me want to go back to late 2020-mid 2021, because that was around the time when analog horror wasn't as oversaturated as it is today.
    That said, I hope the same thing doesn't happen to the upcoming genre that is digital horror, but with all Lacey Games ripoffs that are being made, I think that's easier said than done.

    • @outrageousholidayoh-2178
      @outrageousholidayoh-2178 Před 5 měsíci +11

      That's the case only with CZcams. Its not even remotely like that on the wikis there are some articles that are bad here and there but they don't make the whole site up.
      People only tend to see what youtubers see so usually they only see the bad side since youtubers usually talk about the bad side of the backrooms community.
      Its unfortunate because the writers get harassed and shit on unfairly for things that aren't made by their sides of the community.

    • @skelebonez1349
      @skelebonez1349 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Tbh I hope to make a analog horror sometime around 2024- it’s fnaf related of course but I don’t wanna try to make it the average kind you would expect, Yknow?
      But with that said are there any tips or ideas you guys have in mind to make it feel original even if fnaf related?

    • @Megamon0001
      @Megamon0001 Před 5 měsíci +3

      What is just annoying about the Lacey games ripoffs is that they don’t even try to look like from the era. The drawings don’t even look old, just new with some old web design

    • @Doktario_Mystario
      @Doktario_Mystario Před 5 měsíci +5

      @@skelebonez1349
      1) look at the story off the franchise
      2) try to get a good understanding of all its elements
      3) try to find the elements that repeat often
      4) think of how YOU would tell the story of the FNAF franchise
      5) improve on the things that you think could have been done better

    • @skelebonez1349
      @skelebonez1349 Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@Doktario_Mystario that’s honestly really helpful and has gotten me feelin more confident on the ideas I’ve gotten on this fnaf series
      It’d have the first game directly connected while the rest is more rewritten and used in a different way
      Imma try to keep it as practical as I can, some cgi if needed(mainly only for environments, also btw yes the head you see in my pfp is what bonnie will look like)
      I wanna try to go on a different perspective of analog horror, since a lot does feel sorta like the rest, I wanna try to go for a slight Kane pixels edge where there some cinematic to it with some found footage
      Although also using heavy inspiration from things like the movie and emphasizing that they are ultimately harmless, but used to kill
      That alongside how people deal with grief and trauma like how Mike and Vanessa deal with grief and trauma

  • @rhodiumvaledict3313
    @rhodiumvaledict3313 Před 5 měsíci +127

    I will always remember Kane Pixels as the man who turned Iceberg Boy into Iceberg Man.

  • @dystohpia
    @dystohpia Před 5 měsíci +93

    i've always sorta wanted a healthy balance between old and modern backrooms stuff -
    no entities, but with levels. you're entirely alone, but at least you have some stuff to see to feed that curiosity while you go insane lol

    • @Existing_Productions
      @Existing_Productions Před 4 měsíci +1

      It's always had entity's though

    • @Existing_Productions
      @Existing_Productions Před 4 měsíci

      I miss the level '!' Though why'd they have to delete it?

    • @zephiask1758
      @zephiask1758 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@Existing_Productions No; Read the first 4chan post again. It says "...if you hear something wandering around nearby, because it sure as hell has heard you"
      It does not imply the existence of Entities in it.

    • @Existing_Productions
      @Existing_Productions Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@zephiask1758 That's literally what an entity means though

    • @Existing_Productions
      @Existing_Productions Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@zephiask1758 that is literally implying you are alone but not actually

  • @Thecatontheinternet749
    @Thecatontheinternet749 Před 5 měsíci +54

    Man I kinda feel bad for the backrooms community because of content farms taking over the concept

    • @discipleofdagon8195
      @discipleofdagon8195 Před 5 měsíci +6

      I feel bad for fans of the original 4chan post watching a cool concept get warped into just the SCP foundation; a big game of "nuh-uh my OC is more powerful than urs"

    • @ExpertContrarian
      @ExpertContrarian Před 2 měsíci

      No concept, idea or story is safe

  • @kindertak5396
    @kindertak5396 Před 3 měsíci +4

    I think the backrooms as the concept of just the endless liminal space was the best
    But also, when the backrooms lore got expanded, new floors, some entities (like Howler, Smiler, etc) it was a different type of backrooms, rather than liminal space, it was another dimension that coexists with ours but full of supernatural dangers with very heavy lore, that was also pretty amazing, that phase lasted like 3-4 months and then stuff just went downhill

  • @BlueTv53
    @BlueTv53 Před 5 měsíci +57

    THIS WAS AN UNEXPECTED COLLAB! THANK YOU RAY! 🙏

  • @Lilrat113
    @Lilrat113 Před 5 měsíci +479

    I think the whole horror of the back rooms has been misinterpreted and morphed into mascot horror
    thanks for the likes

    • @NathanSylbreon
      @NathanSylbreon Před 5 měsíci +37

      I think that's because all kids know now is mascot horror if there isn't some entity for them to latch onto they don't like it

    • @ethandtheangryenglishguy8253
      @ethandtheangryenglishguy8253 Před 5 měsíci +8

      Ikr like I’ve been going over the moon and back about saving the backrooms for six months now.

    • @JamesWagner-vv9iz
      @JamesWagner-vv9iz Před 5 měsíci +1

      I feel like it was eminating transphobia though

    • @anonymous18144
      @anonymous18144 Před 5 měsíci +16

      @@JamesWagner-vv9iz What???

    • @yosh9192
      @yosh9192 Před 5 měsíci

      @@JamesWagner-vv9iz
      Trvthnvke

  • @Kiwtastic
    @Kiwtastic Před 5 měsíci +8

    SCPs aren't official if they're bad. They need a certain amount of likes or they are deleted. It's hard to actually make an SCP that stays. There's a lot of joke SCPs but they're basically entirely separate and you don't need to think of them as canon.

  • @stuarthall9854
    @stuarthall9854 Před 5 měsíci +27

    Backroom’s is always going to be one of my all-time favorite ideas, but I admittedly had to step away for a while because of just how much meme-culture got injected into it and ruined the infinitely mysterious/eerie vibes the Backrooms’ universe gave. Knowing that one day you could just abruptly end up in an endless and infinitely varying catalogue of different universes with their own unique traits, attributes, atmosphere, vibes, dangers, etc. that you’d be exploring and walking through for the rest of your days always kept my imagination thriving. I’m excited for when The Backrooms loses the whole meme-culture side so that things can get back to what made the fiction truly special - the universe literally has infinite potential when certain parts of the community aren't making light of the fiction to such a comical degree and treat The Backrooms as another TikTok trend or "inject popular meme into a Backrooms level for the lols."

    • @speedslider3913
      @speedslider3913 Před 4 měsíci +4

      Finally somebody else actually appreciates the wiki Backroooms! I feel like nobody sees the appeal of the wikis: adventuring through screwed-up liminal spaces and encountering strange phenomenon and entities, and they only want the liminal horror feeling they get from the original 4chan post, which, while understandable and great in it's own right, doesn't foster a very interesting community beyond just posting empty places and talking avout how creepy the vibes are.

  • @kingmoon4320
    @kingmoon4320 Před 5 měsíci +32

    It crazy to realize is now I'm watching people my age talk about things I liked get ruined by children of the next gen

    • @FallingPicturesProductions
      @FallingPicturesProductions Před 5 měsíci +4

      Every generation is worse then the one before it. Been this was since the transition from the 'Greatest Generation' to the 'Silent Generation'.

    • @pvzdbanimations8866
      @pvzdbanimations8866 Před 4 měsíci +1

      For real

    • @JustShotsForMeh
      @JustShotsForMeh Před 4 měsíci

      ​​@@FallingPicturesProductions I'm 27, and that bullshit take was made ever since people could communicate with each other thousands of years ago, with adults saying kids don't value traditions anymore referring to children not attending shamanic rituals and whatever else.
      VSauce made a video about it, newer generations are not inherently worse, is this generation objectively dumber? Surely. But that's what life deems to be the most efficient, you don't need to have a big brain when gadgets do all the work for you.

    • @cadentan9083
      @cadentan9083 Před 4 měsíci +4

      The unsettling part is that soon we’re gonna be watching people younger than us talking about this stuff. For pretty much my whole life I’ve been watching older people discuss things, and I’ve been noticing more and more that mid way through a video they’ll say something that makes me realize they’re barely older than I am.

    • @timtamTom.1
      @timtamTom.1 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @gPicturesProductionsevery generation _thinks_ the one after it is worse

  • @Screwsmcduck
    @Screwsmcduck Před 5 měsíci +98

    It’s truly sad to see the backrooms decay and rot into a puppet for sloppy CZcams kids content.

    • @outrageousholidayoh-2178
      @outrageousholidayoh-2178 Před 5 měsíci +8

      That's the case only with CZcams.

    • @Screwsmcduck
      @Screwsmcduck Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@outrageousholidayoh-2178 Thankfully, but it’s mostly popular on CZcams, which is unfortunate.

    • @pwn3ronetwothree
      @pwn3ronetwothree Před 5 měsíci +2

      So true! The backrooms was so heckin scary before when you could go to the kindergarden level and meet scrimpy grindle the bimpy limble who was a big scary monster who heckin chased you around!!!

    • @ethandtheangryenglishguy8253
      @ethandtheangryenglishguy8253 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Does anyone think saving the original concept of the backrooms is a good opportunity? I’m literally going over the moon about it by now because I literally love the backrooms so much.

    • @pwn3ronetwothree
      @pwn3ronetwothree Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@ethandtheangryenglishguy8253 Eh... Admittedly there's not a lot you can do with it, which is why people immediately stuffed their OCs and floors into the mix. The backrooms, as a post describing the phenomena is outstandingly creepy, but it just got turned into SCP lite immediately after Reddit got it's grubby hooks into it, so probably not

  • @BlueEngland
    @BlueEngland Před 5 měsíci +142

    The Backrooms is at its best when it's more liminal and isolated.

    • @Yuckyuck1870
      @Yuckyuck1870 Před 5 měsíci +11

      I don’t like it when there is creatures. It holds its value by always expecting something of substance to be around the next corner or through the next door yet it leads to another room as unsubstantial as the last with a feeling of being watched but never seeing who is watching you.

    • @iamnotawellknownperson
      @iamnotawellknownperson Před 5 měsíci +3

      The…thing in the “The Oldest View” is a thing that peeked interest because it’s not like the other entities, while all the other entities are mostly organic and seem pretty alive in a way to kill someone. The “Rolling Giant” is just a piece of art, it’s inanimate, it’s not suppose to be moving at all. It’s creepy in a way where kids can’t copy moving inanimate objects that makes unnatural movements. It conveys a feeling and movement no other person can copy. It’s an inanimate object, it’s not suppose to move. Things that aren’t moving inanimately that are is dreading. I hope you just understand this because I’m tired rn and I can’t elaborate any further.

    • @Heitzsche
      @Heitzsche Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@iamnotawellknownpersonThe Oldest View is separate from the Backrooms universe though

    • @plagued3245
      @plagued3245 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @ck1870 well if the backrooms never change then people might get bored of it and move on. but there is potential for creatures if it's executed correctly

    • @NOOBLETK
      @NOOBLETK Před 2 měsíci

      @@plagued3245 People moving on adds to its obscure and disturbing nature. Imagine stumbling across it in its original form by sheer chance. The questions left unanswered, the implications of such a grim fate. More is not always better.

  • @eliansalinas7022
    @eliansalinas7022 Před 5 měsíci +11

    I don’t think I’ve ever felt “Liminality.” I’m 27 years old, meaning my early childhood was in the late 90s, so that childhood was filled with insane color and whacky, tacky designs that never meshed well with the areas that they were in. I feel like liminality is only applicable to early 2000s “All Grey/white” designs, which I actually am a huge fan of. I genuinely think this fear of these “dead spaces” are based mainly off of ones childhood and the areas they live in. New age minimalism vs late 90s maximalism.

  • @clurgee4923
    @clurgee4923 Před 5 měsíci +8

    I think the reason so many people are into the concept of the backrooms, is kinda some supernatural aspect of the afterlife. For me, the backrooms kinda portrayed the concept of limbo, but in a more familiar environment. To me, if the backrooms legitimately did exist, they would have no exit -- screw the "levels". I think it's partially the combination of the unfamiliar (purgatory, hell) with the familiar (office spaces, which we all have been in at least once).
    I also maybe think there's some subconscious childlike element of the backrooms that makes people so obsessed. I feel like the concept itself would really only come from a kid: "Imagine an office space that was just a giant maze!" -- and, now that we're capable of creating images to push the storytelling, we're witnessing some childhood imagination coming true, pretty much. Same thing with the idea of liminal spaces/dreamcore. It's just making deeply planted childlike concepts and ideas back into life, and we experience weird feelings because we've both imagined these things before but never actualized them.

  • @lordmarshmal_0643
    @lordmarshmal_0643 Před 5 měsíci +15

    The nice thing is that the SCP Foundation community has largely shifted away from that random objects thing and more towards embracing the sci-fi undertones that it's always had
    I get why people aren't really a big fan of the existential horror aspects that're prominent in the more recent series (things like Fifthism and the assortment of reality bending SCPs), because it's confusing with loadsa jargon newcomers won't get + the earlier stuff is straight-to-the-point and leaves a number of details to the imagination, but I lean both ways: I'm a sucker for sci-fi just as much as I am good old "unknown" horror
    And just like Broogli said about the Backrooms: it's collaborative fiction, the prominent themes are gonna shift greatly over time, and you still see bits of both random shit and classic SCP horror

    • @UlshaRS
      @UlshaRS Před 5 měsíci +9

      It's the self policing and curating that helps keep SCP from pulling a creepy pasta and spiraling into pornographic cringy edge lord gore. See: the permanent ending of the Dr. Bright prohibited lists.

    • @discipleofdagon8195
      @discipleofdagon8195 Před 5 měsíci +3

      it got worse tbh. I liked it when it was plausibility mixed with the unknown but over the years it drifted more toward self-insert vs self-insert characters in really cringe ways.

  • @iamnotawellknownperson
    @iamnotawellknownperson Před 5 měsíci +8

    Kane’s recent work “The Oldest View” is the most realistic down right standards. There are that blend of feeling of loneliness but also that feeling of something else with you. Like how things like “The Rolling Giant” isn’t just you’re standard kids yt backrooms. It changes. It’s graphic. And there’s so much not even 8Bit Ryan could understand. Why is it underground? Why is there so empty? Why is a natural figure in there? What happened in Wyatt really? There’s so much I want to say but I need to clear my head, I’ll be back when I can.

    • @d00ro779oi
      @d00ro779oi Před 2 měsíci

      mate can you come back now?

  • @DefinitelyNotJethro
    @DefinitelyNotJethro Před 5 měsíci +22

    This was a great video.
    It's sad to see that when anything gets popular, it starts to get worse because of the people that know nothing about it.
    I kinda hate that people always connect things to the backrooms like skibidi toilet or poppy playtime. These universes are not the same and shouldn't belong together.

  • @plyume
    @plyume Před 5 měsíci +36

    Hell Yeah!!!! Hour long Raymundo 2112 upload! Gonna cook dinner with this on in the background. Cheers!

  • @Lachrymogenic
    @Lachrymogenic Před 5 měsíci +8

    We don't have much these days. No new videogames or franchises to fall in love with, so when something like the Backrooms came around, people were ecstatic!
    Such a unique and interesting horror experience for times like these, where horror just isn't as scary as it used to be!
    And now unfortunately it's gotten too popular, and the cycle just repeats itself. Thankfully, we now have things like Lethal Company, but not much else.

  • @mrfunnixd7381
    @mrfunnixd7381 Před 5 měsíci +74

    Skidibi toilet is gmod madness at its finest and unfortunately some people have taken it and ruined it

    • @discipleofdagon8195
      @discipleofdagon8195 Před 5 měsíci +7

      Yeah ngl I'm something of a fan of it given I was big into gmod growing up, seeing the in-depth use of props to kit up these cameramen/toilets with all kind of weapons makes me realise that I would've geeked out over it as a kid as well...
      But the gen-alpha brainrot is a bit concerning.

    • @snizzle6174
      @snizzle6174 Před 5 měsíci +8

      It's incredible how gmod animations have now become 2 generation's meme content in a row. In entirely different ways, but still

  • @FabbrizioPlays
    @FabbrizioPlays Před 5 měsíci +6

    You can appreciate that Kane Pixels makes technically impressive videos, while also acknowledging that if you're not alone in the backrooms, it ceases to be liminal and loses the uneasy feeling that comes with it.
    Not all horror has to involve being hunted by a monster.

  • @SwaggyG_2102
    @SwaggyG_2102 Před 5 měsíci +20

    Seeing stuff like this makes me wonder if it's necessary for people to gatekeep genres, as to avoid oversaturation and low-effort content.

    • @RanDoom_Guy21
      @RanDoom_Guy21 Před 3 měsíci

      it is, at least a low ammount of gatekeeping is necassary.

  • @asthmaticpeach1794
    @asthmaticpeach1794 Před 5 měsíci +10

    the fact that i couldnt tell that fake podcast clip was a joke until freddy fazbear is so scary what has the world become lmao

  • @Freebird_77
    @Freebird_77 Před 5 měsíci +14

    This is why I’m glad that SCP is not too popular rn

  • @CarlosSuarez-sr3qs
    @CarlosSuarez-sr3qs Před 5 měsíci +6

    This video instilled a new fear I didn’t have before,
    The realization that people around my age have actually done shit with their lives, and I’m still doing nothing

  • @Sevastiel
    @Sevastiel Před 5 měsíci +27

    KANE IS SEVENTEEN WHAT IN THE GOT DAYUM-
    That aside, I really do agree that the original concept played into that fear of the unknown, and the sort of childlike helplessness it puts the viewer into. I enjoy listening to just level descriptions for fun, but I wouldn't call that side of the backrooms scary. However, the empty liminal spaces with monsters that may or may not exist? That does upset me. When I was younger I'd think about infinite realms in the terms of games like minecraft or the never ending blue and green void of early 3d level designs, and it'd terrify me. On an infinite slope, I decided that I'd just sit where I was because there was nothing to go up to, but if I was to go down, there'd be more up than down.
    The backrooms gives me that same sort of endless void fear. Everything just keeps going, its a paradoxically liminal space since it is inbetween nothing and it is the inbetween, and monsters or not, there's no reason to keep walking. No way out. No forward, no back, no start, no end. But you keep walking anyway, because what else are you to do. Even worse if by some twist of hellish fate you are immortal, because then it truly becomes infinite. That scares the everloving shit out of me far more than any monster does, and listing out monsters, making them repeat, explaining the unexplainable does kind of take that away. There is an end, a way in and out of levels, something to keep walking for.
    Even worse when you put childrens characters in it, without the care to put them through the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never the end that is never th

    • @Sevastiel
      @Sevastiel Před 5 měsíci +3

      That being said if someone cared to actually do a total fake out of a video that looks like a childs content farm and then turns into a real exploration of the paradoxial liminal horror and how it'd be delt with in character, I think that'd be pretty darn cool

    • @gabrielfmm5465
      @gabrielfmm5465 Před 5 měsíci

      what about it?

    • @sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf
      @sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf Před 5 měsíci +1

      I think he meant he was 17 when the first back rooms dropped

    • @sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf
      @sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@gabrielfmm5465young people making such high quality content is very out of the ordinary

    • @sandrahughes4117
      @sandrahughes4117 Před 5 měsíci +1

      well, i mean on the whole unknown thing, the entity itself made it really scary sense it was never fully described, and honestly if u were in the backrooms, you would probably WANT to find that entity so u can die or atleast have some kind of friend in ur last minutes in this hell

  • @chaoswhaletv6306
    @chaoswhaletv6306 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I think what scared me the most in the backrooms. OG concept. is the idea of the "It". the idea of there something right there. Watching you. Turn around and only see it for the a second. And at your weakest. It kills you. Missing,Gone Never Will/Wont be found

  • @rickydargence5948
    @rickydargence5948 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Feels great that Kane is the one working in the A24 backrooms film instead of any other creator that injected all those almond water, monsters and rules to their backrooms vids or whatever.

  • @Duncaster
    @Duncaster Před 5 měsíci +14

    Honestly this is just the fate of anything thrown to the content farm wolves. Soulless content creators shove in as much trendy, algorithm friendly topics as they can into one video and shit it out for money and views.

  • @Max_Mustermann
    @Max_Mustermann Před 5 měsíci +5

    Personally I think one of the things that might have ruined the Backrooms was that it evolved from a concept that was originally about liminal spaces and where the environment itself was the main focus into what is essentially a standard horror IP with monsters and jump scares.
    Kane Pixels videos are still interesting though in that he built up a surrounding story turning the Backrooms into a research project similar to the SCP foundation.

  • @gmdb3
    @gmdb3 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Kane inspired me to take on the journey to learn 3D and vfx, I started with backrooms stuff but now after a year I've found my own thing and I feel like now I can go on my vfx path for the future

  • @BuckBlaziken
    @BuckBlaziken Před 5 měsíci +46

    The back rooms doesn’t feel like it’s utterly destroyed. It just feels devalued. Like a home. It’s still a home, it still has its place and role in people’s lives. But it feels less valuable, like it’s no longer in its peak condition after being messed with by Children having fun. You can’t blame the children for having fun but it is definitely a factor to its decline

    • @discipleofdagon8195
      @discipleofdagon8195 Před 5 měsíci +3

      imo that's worse. It's kind of like how rockstars who died young are remembered in their prime while those who lived past it will be remembered for their last decrepit moments i.e Roger Ebert. It's sad what happened to the guy but I can't look at pictures of him post cancer surgery and not flinch.

    • @worthybutter2004
      @worthybutter2004 Před 5 měsíci

      @@discipleofdagon8195 Yeah, it's a shame he couldn’t talk anymore.

  • @FlexicanTm
    @FlexicanTm Před 5 měsíci +12

    I think once everything became this other dimension that can house multiple societies that ruined it for me. I always thought of the backroom as purgatory you’re stuck here by yourself and the inclusion of something lurking there to find you

  • @meisterdruide
    @meisterdruide Před 2 měsíci +1

    Im very thankful that someone finally made a video about this topic, i've been a big fan of the backrooms concept since 2020 and the backrooms getting used for likes and views was always kind of annoying to me, because i was in love with the liminal space kind of vibe, which the first post on 4chan was giving off, but it was also very cool to see the concept grow through different social medias, which led to it developing several fandoms, I think it depends on what you like about the backrooms the most and not, what the original concept was..

  • @lasagnalad5874
    @lasagnalad5874 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Just depends what type of content you decide to watch and support, I have never watched the videos marketed to kids and stuck to creators like Kane Pixels, and it has only gotten better from what I’ve seen. So long as those creators are continuing their creations, I’ll love to keep enjoying them.

  • @oatjuice5921
    @oatjuice5921 Před 5 měsíci +4

    i used to do urban exploring in my childhood to late teens and was absolutely excited when i found that odd spaces were getting popular
    what made me do urban exploring was being alone and feeling a bit out of place, not the being scared and weird monsters and all that shit, what made me love those pictures after i stopped breaking into closed shops and recently abandoned buildings was the same, not monsters but the familiar unfamiliarity
    the poppy playtimeazation of liminal spaces made me fall out of love completely with the pictures but i am still part of a few small communities of people with the same and similar ideas as me
    if you feel as strongly about this as me i highly encourage you to go exploring
    go to your abandoned schools you used to be in (seriously, dont break into a still operational school, youll be put in watchlists), go to your local abandoned mall and take a look around, go to car park for an unfinished building and just walk around and listen to your footsteps, go to your parents now abandoned job place
    this "genre" is much more than funny internet pictures and screaming youtubers
    dont get shot

  • @takumidoutou4412
    @takumidoutou4412 Před 5 měsíci +33

    Once I fell asleep to a back rooms explained video and my brain came up with more interesting levels then the actual back rooms lore did 😭

    • @starwarsevilanakin
      @starwarsevilanakin Před 5 měsíci +3

      Tell me what they were, im interested

    • @takumidoutou4412
      @takumidoutou4412 Před 5 měsíci +10

      @@starwarsevilanakin it’s hard to explain in a CZcams comment but the most was there was only 9 levels known and no one had gone past the 9th level it was also very difficult if not impossible to go back to previous levels and 100% impossible to leave the back rooms at all.
      The 9th level was just a island of black stone and a giant Ocean that is incredibly deep. Thalassophobia and all. And there was a giant whale that would kills anyone that even tries to cross the waters.
      This is similar to one of the levels in the video but my one felt a lot deeper? There was a island you needed to cross the ocean to get to to get to floor 10 but no one knows what’s past there. And the people living on the island of floor 9 are a tribal group who went insane from how dark the Damn place is.
      There was more but that one stuck out to be especially the unknown of the depths of the ocean and the unknown of floor 10 being protected by the whale.

    • @starwarsevilanakin
      @starwarsevilanakin Před 5 měsíci

      @@takumidoutou4412 damn this actually reminds me of some place in a game i played, it was limbus company and one of the cutscenes was that these 12 people and 1 guy with a clock face were busy hunting for this whale, one part of the ocean in that story was a grey world, with grey island bumps, right after that they encountered the whale. I think i have a video of that on my channel.

  • @kevins_happy354
    @kevins_happy354 Před 5 měsíci +9

    As a 12+ gen alpha I should have seen this childish stuff (not in a good "should have seen.") First 5 years of my life I didn't have a tablet or ipad, I grew up with DVD's from the nineteeies, such as Disney films EG: Aristocats, Lady and the tramp, etc... So I think the older gen alpha group is fine, but the younger group... I'm worried about them.
    And yea, I was interested in Fnaf and creepypastas back then.
    Edit: I misspelled creepypasta (creppypasta) lol.
    Edit 2: nvm... a guy told me its 2013+ ty to that guy in the comments.

    • @legendsdontdie466
      @legendsdontdie466 Před 5 měsíci +1

      12+? Gen Alpha is 2013 and onward. Most researchers defined Gen Alpha as that and even US Census confirmed it. If you're older then ten, you barely missed Alpha.

    • @kevins_happy354
      @kevins_happy354 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Ohhh... I heard somewhere else it was 2010+ ty for telling me.

    • @legendsdontdie466
      @legendsdontdie466 Před 5 měsíci

      And just in case anyone wants to say I'm wrong, Mark McCrindle is an Australian Researcher. 2010+ only applies to Australlia. The US Census confirmed that the ends date is 2012. Stop gatekeeping age years and learn to research.

  • @wasabigaming802
    @wasabigaming802 Před 5 měsíci +9

    I hate that Pizza Tower has become a part of this Elsagate-Lankybox culture. Its such a cool game dude why did people do this bro

    • @therealno_one
      @therealno_one Před 5 měsíci

      Buzzword . I like pizza tower too, one of the best games I’ve ever played

    • @MagitekBahamuto
      @MagitekBahamuto Před 5 měsíci

      Pizza Tower is now part of Tiktok's shitty kid humor.

    • @wasabigaming802
      @wasabigaming802 Před 5 měsíci

      @@MagitekBahamuto Damn. Thats fuckin sad.

  • @pavlo1207
    @pavlo1207 Před 5 měsíci +9

    This is gonna be awesome. Absolute legends collabing ❤

  • @a_random_guy640
    @a_random_guy640 Před 5 měsíci +5

    11:46 I love the whatever you call it remix of the skibidi bop yes song in the background it gives vibes that I cant describe and the vibes are not bad.

  • @Super88-2
    @Super88-2 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Okay so Kane Pixels video by no means captured the feel of the original image. The backrooms originated from the concept of liminality, of course. His videos do not follow any sort of liminality for the most part because of the monster and Async ect. His series is good do not get me wrong, its just not very liminal. Things that do capture the liminality of the backrooms truly perfectly would be things like the original backrooms game, while it does have an entity, the entity doesnt move, it is stationary and it emits a noise that adds to the feeling of liminality a bit. The Complex is probably the best example, it has no entities, and the echo, slower movement, and its strange and seemingly random areas are perfect. Another decent example is backroosm lost and found, a unique game, Im not gonna get into it much, but I think it does have a strong resemblence of what the backrooms was meant to be.

    • @Super88-2
      @Super88-2 Před 5 měsíci +5

      Okay so after seeing the interview with K Pixels, I do somewhat change my standpoint on his series, I realized that I had decided my opinion before giving the series much of a chance. I've only watched the first video then once the opinion that the series "ruined" the backrooms I decided to not watch the series. So now I'm gonna maybe give it a chance and watch it.

  • @samuel-the-italian
    @samuel-the-italian Před 5 měsíci +10

    1 hour long video by raymundo
    we are in for a treat!

  • @bioscar4998
    @bioscar4998 Před 5 měsíci +6

    I am glad you have the same sorta view on Skibidi Toilet, ngl. I HATE, HATE the kids in it and the fandom, but... the content can be both amazing and horrifying (in the good way).
    I actually hope to maybe see you cover it, I'll sub to see it come out as I'm intrigued, and I will agree that the fandom itself sucks in it. If you watch a YTer known as "Hoot", they made a fan video that is pretty amazing, as it feels like a horror film almost, and kinda fits the idea that it would give in reality.
    I'll probably make the comment larger on said video if it ever comes out, but overall I feel that I will agree with you here and I'm glad you explain it so well. You earned a sub.
    Edit: Talking about inspiration from Backrooms, Kane Pixels' series actually really helped me think about my own idea that is not to be y'know, perverted by content farms even if the content I plan to add within it already *has* been perverted long ago.

    • @Avaitor_YT
      @Avaitor_YT Před 5 měsíci +3

      Don't blame them, blame the gen zs taking advantage of them bro

    • @bioscar4998
      @bioscar4998 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@Avaitor_YT if they're old enough to curse like South Park characters can they surely can decipher what's good and bad on the internet imo-

    • @Avaitor_YT
      @Avaitor_YT Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@bioscar4998 They aren't, that's the thing.

  • @trolilith
    @trolilith Před 5 měsíci +3

    honestly i feel like my thoughts about the backrooms have changed a lot over the years, i remember thinking it was the coolest thing at first, like only seeing the og 4chan post, and being hesitant but intrigued by the added lore of multiple levels, but i kinda started drifting away from the backrooms as a concept when multiple entities were starting to get popular, maybe because i grew interested in other types of horror that are more personal than the general fear of the unknown, like that kinda felt like obvious to me so it stopped being special, and seeing the backrooms get bastardized by content farms didn't really help me stay invested
    i think that rn my focus is on body horror, but abstract body horror like who's lila or some aspects of inside mari, mostly because they hit harder for personal reasons, and i like that. finding horror that feels personal will always be scarier and more fulfilling than your run of the mill fear of monsters or the unknown, and as you learn from horror you can learn a lot about yourself, and not to be a nerd but isn't that like really cool?

  • @ZachariahJ
    @ZachariahJ Před 3 měsíci +3

    I'm an old fart, and a total casual, so I'm not really the right demographic, but *just once*, I'd love to see a Backrooms video in which the protagonist doesn't just keep walking for ever, but makes a camp, and examines things - pulls away wallpaper to see what's underneath, unscrews light fittings, makes a fire from old flyers and sparks generated from a broken light fitting, boils water over the fire to purify it - not just walking to their doom!
    Or meets an actual human who is also lost, and together find a way out, or a way to live using supplies they find.
    I know it then becomes 'survival horror' - but *just once*, a bit of, not closure exactly, but reasonable behaviour, instead of just walking, and walking, and walking...

  • @outrageousholidayoh-2178
    @outrageousholidayoh-2178 Před 5 měsíci +52

    There's a misconception that people have where people think that there is no liminality left in the backrooms when that just is not the case.
    Levels on the wikis (fandom and Wikidot) both have some liminal aspects of them and a lot of levels are liminal (ones like level 37 are good examples of this)
    There are different fandom and Wikidot levels that have liminal vibes built to them (all class 0 levels are liminal)

    • @kwentongpotchero6750
      @kwentongpotchero6750 Před 5 měsíci +1

      True

    • @lordmarshmal_0643
      @lordmarshmal_0643 Před 5 měsíci +5

      It's a negativity bias I think, the bad stuff sticks out FAR more than the good (in this case liminal) stuff in your mind

    • @Nuggohmed
      @Nuggohmed Před 5 měsíci

      fuck the wiki it ruins the whole horror aspect of the backrooms

    • @synchacker25
      @synchacker25 Před 5 měsíci +8

      I really think just the concept of hundreds of "levels" in the backrooms kinda destroys the initial idea surrounding the medium. Its supposed to be barebones and foreign, and the idea of hundreds of "levels" imo, inflates that so big it takes on a different vibe and gives the viewer something not as creepy to contend with. Im an old school SCP fan so im pretty biased through nostalgia and a little "muh back in my day" however the same thing happened to SCP; too much input going in the wrong direction.

    • @HYDROCARBON_XD
      @HYDROCARBON_XD Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@synchacker25i think that can be used to make it more mysterious,how many levels are there? Are they actually levels or just a small part of a much bigger one? Is the backrooms actually alive?

  • @zackfitz1033
    @zackfitz1033 Před 5 měsíci +6

    An awsome hour long video to close out the day, yes i would sit through intire thing and love every second of it

  • @luxuryballer2216
    @luxuryballer2216 Před 5 měsíci +4

    I think it's interesting because for me, I never really liked the small community-made lore - you put it really well, it was "game-ified". I am really interested in how Broogli explained how the element of "you can barely survive" adds to the intrigue to him, though, because it actually does clue me in on what the appeal I was missing was for other people. Still, for me, Kane Pixel's take is more unsettling and scary - it's an unnatural environment distorted by our technology and has distorted threats therein. The lack of openly malicious actors and the fact that this happened in a neutral pursuit of making more space in a human world that needs it makes it so much scarier, y'know? Treading on something unintentionally with such lethal and existential consequences.

  • @catwithapan
    @catwithapan Před 3 měsíci

    Dude, when I saw Berney from The Backrooms All-Seeing on Rec-Room, that gave me such a massive hit of nostalgia. It's crazy because as the backrooms as a concept became more and more saturated, The Backrooms All-Seeing got updates that made it just not fun to play anymore lol. Still love the original concept tho, that'll never change for me.
    Also, good video! Keep up the good work man~! :>

  • @shavenpears3184
    @shavenpears3184 Před 5 měsíci +76

    I hate to be that guy, but honestly this is why gatekeeping and criticism isn't always a bad thing. I honestly lost interest in the backrooms by late-2019 to early-2020 because I just thought it got ridiculous, and figured it was just a passing fad. I'm not really surprised at all seeing how even the biggest backrooms fans have realized how far gone the concept has been recently. I think of how analog horror has somewhat shit the bed the past 2 or so years. Years ago, only the good analog horror videos got attention, like Local 58. Then when it got more and more popular around 2019-2020, everyone with a decent laptop could make whatever crap they wanted. Sure some gems are able to shine through, but analog horror is pretty much a punchline now and everyone knows the clichés. If people would be honest and say that what people make is crap, then they might actually improve, as well as stop giving attention to things that make their sub-genre look bad.
    I remember when ARGs were at the forefront of horror CZcams, and it took a while before people realized that almost every one of them were just complete shit that went absolutely nowhere. It started off good, then everyone who thought they were a good storyteller made a crappy ARG, hoping that Night Mind or Reignbot or Scaretheater would make a video talking about their "masterpiece". They relied on cheap tricks, sloppy storytelling, and uninspired visuals, and people pumped them out thinking they were geniuses for what they created. After a while, people mostly just stopped caring and ARGs became much less popular for several years, even if some of them were really, really good (and only the good ones were still getting attention, and the one's that are around today are much more tolerable).
    I think of when the Creepypasta wiki got rid of some notably bad, but still famous, Creepypastas. I still remember the day that Sonic.exe got taken off the wiki and the creator had a complete meltdown (which is still hilarious to read). Honestly, it was for the best because the story was considered to be awful by most fans at that point, and many troll-pastas would take tropes that were popularized in that story (for good reason). The creator of Eyeless Jack even said that he was ashamed of his own story and even wanted the story removed. I haven't been on the wiki in a while, but I did see some improvement the last time I was there, which made me happy because Creepypastas were a punchline by the mid-2010s, much like the backrooms and analog horror today. (though to be fair, if you want to read a good horror story, just go to reddit's nosleep instead)

    • @Erik-bd6ll
      @Erik-bd6ll Před 5 měsíci +9

      I hate gatekeeping as much as the next guy but damn, gatekeeping is needed for thos

    • @shavenpears3184
      @shavenpears3184 Před 5 měsíci +17

      @@Erik-bd6ll the thing that really changed my view on "gatekeeping" was Whang's video on r/cursedimages, where the subreddit got popular, which led to people who didn't really grasp the big picture to basically infest the community and change its identity. I don't love gatekeeping, but it's recommended in certain scenarios

    • @Erik-bd6ll
      @Erik-bd6ll Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@shavenpears3184 it really is tho

    • @sorimasn
      @sorimasn Před 5 měsíci +5

      Low effort content is easy to pump out, or even automate with ai, and makes money because kids will click on anything. We should just gatekeep horror content from children in general.

    • @HappyGreenSteve
      @HappyGreenSteve Před 5 měsíci +2

      yes... @@sorimasn

  • @okmowstop9
    @okmowstop9 Před 5 měsíci +22

    Kids fandoms have really ruined everything. Horror or not

  • @bunsenn5064
    @bunsenn5064 Před 5 měsíci +15

    I’m glad there’s still some people like Kane around who create content that remains unsettling and ambiguous. The whole concept of the backrooms revolves around this, and you can tell there’s a lot of care that goes into making a truly good piece of horror media.

  • @NyaNight
    @NyaNight Před 5 měsíci

    Really enjoyed the vid man abit random but absolutely loved hearing the Fran Bow soundtrack as background music on and off through it, was such a gem to hear again after years

  • @fouriousbanana6966
    @fouriousbanana6966 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I like the backrooms. NOT the shitposts and the "nothing" content. The fandom, the wikis, the community. I have a "tactic", that if I don't want to see the bad kid's content, I just ignore it. I read the wikis, talk with people on less popular subreddits and discord servers, people that, like myself, enjoy the original backrooms and the additions that were made in 2019 - 2020, but also the current stuff as well as just care about it. I don't really have anything else to say soo... that's it.
    I forgot to mention that I'm 12.
    Really nice vid though! It took quite a lot of time, but I think it was worth it. Love that you talked with other individuals, gave me a lot more reassurance with what you were saying.
    Didn't expect Broogli here, I watch him pretty regularly.

  • @Itz_GamePoint
    @Itz_GamePoint Před 5 měsíci +12

    Glad you could give this video retrospective! As someone who is an avid Kane Pixels fan I still think the Wiki version can still be good, it's like SCP: it's a cool concept that just needs WAAAAY more quality control for low-effort posts kids make XD.

  • @Antonwalnuts
    @Antonwalnuts Před 5 měsíci +3

    2:40 isn’t the entire point of the backrooms that it’s supposed to be boring? Isn’t that a part of the fear factor? Being stuck there forever? Not haven’t an escape other than dying of hunger or thirst? Isn’t that what’s scary about it?

  • @ProjectGladiatorWeather
    @ProjectGladiatorWeather Před 4 měsíci +2

    watching up to 8 minutes, i absolutely agree, even though i mainly do weather content i have thought about creating a second channel where i explain the backrooms but in a way that the wikidot does it. The wikidot is probably the best place to read backrooms information because everything has to be looked over by a moderator before its written and incorporated and its actively always looked over with horribly written pages being removed. They also have a age limit where you have to be 16+ to join their discord server which is where you have to go to even ask permission to write a page. So its heavily moderated and prevents small children from writing anything. The wiki fandom page (now the free write wiki) is moderated to some extent however it is significantly more popular and also overrun by small children. Theres to many people there that are turning their OC's into entities and just absolutely terribly writing pages, even if some do have a good concept, they can easily be significantly improved with more writing skills. Hell, even I am thinking of writing a high quality sublevel for level 10 where it resembles the central plains and meteorological phenomena take place and going in depth on the level. However there are main things i enjoy about the backrooms that make it so interesting to me, not the entities or the ways to survive but the physics/quantum physics/and quantum mechanics of the backrooms. The way the Backrooms works, i feel, is a heavily overlooked concept that should definitely be expanded upon instead of crappy monsters roaming the place. I do agree that having monsters does ruin a certain aspect that made it scary in the beginning but it can also be done right if written correctly, this is what the free write wiki fails to do. But again, the thing that runs it home is the physics and mechanics of a whole other universe outside of our own. For example, the mechanics of noclipping, the mechanics of the blue channel, the mechanics of different levels and sublevels and the different between the infinite nature and finite nature of some, the mechanics of some more unique levels such as level 38 and even more unique mechanics such as the non-eclidean nature of some levels and the isolation aspects of level 0 where you cannot encounter another person even if you are technically right next to them. Some pages that i think do capture what I love about it is things such as object 86 (asset 86) the reality lag machine and phenomena like blue consumption and things like null 06 and ad astra. I could go on and on about the mechanics and physics that interest me but also just the simple fact that people living here have to make this new universe their new normal. But due to my more unique perception of the backrooms, it also shows how other people may not think that deep about it like i do and what some other things people may like such as the biology of entities and things like that. That is a major intergeral part of the backrooms and the difference in what other people enjoy will cause different articles to not be written as in depth and also differently from some other people, so that major fact that some stuff with absolutely vary from article to article makes it hard to stay similar and true to itself if so many people are working on it at once. That can either be looked at as the one major upbringing of the backrooms, or the thing keeping it down, however you want to look at it. One major thing that i did notice is the fact that you said that the backrooms can feel sometimes like a video game and in some cases, that is the main integral part of the backrooms that some people think about when they think of the backrooms and can absolutely be the one mechanic which makes a level unique, but there are insanely mixed opinions about it. But yet again, one thing that we can all mutually agree on is that the people such as lanky box that only use it for the ad revenue and don't care about the backrooms itself, and the little kids which may not have a full understanding or experience writing that in-depth can absolutely ruin such unique features.

  • @Beta_Mixes
    @Beta_Mixes Před 3 měsíci

    Im glad you came up to this conclusion man, no sense in feeling bad over something great that people dedicated their time and eforts in it.
    Wish you the best bro.

  • @overchargedgorilla8293
    @overchargedgorilla8293 Před 5 měsíci +12

    Dont get me wrong i love kane pixels backroom, but thats where I think it fell off. To me personally the backrooms became just wire monsters holes in the floors and wired textures, its just corporate. To me the original backrooms had a more human take to if you get what i mean people, getting stuck in a place they dont now and only to fall deeper and find way to survive the horrors just hit, and to add the explaining how the backroom was created took away alot of the horror of it, it from being something that isn't explainable to just it was the evil people, i also thing i dont think oversaturation is the problem in my opinion just look any backroom videos or the actual website and youll find some amazing stuff, i just think it the way his backrooms are set up

  • @F0xtr0t775
    @F0xtr0t775 Před 5 měsíci +10

    3 of my favorite creators? yes please!

  • @ray4237
    @ray4237 Před 4 měsíci

    raymundo is that guy who spectates and gives a clear, unbiased, reasoned opinion with lots of facts and logic to back it up. you’re definitely the best commentary youtuber in terms of how reliable and truthful you are. the only reason the internet anarchist is better is due to his frequent uploads with unbiased opinions, however your content is many times better, just less frequent

  • @Foogi9000
    @Foogi9000 Před měsícem +1

    Imagine dying of starvation/thirst only to wake up at level 0 again. You're alone, you're hungry, you're thirsty, and when you die monster or no, you will end up right back where you began. What would that do to a human psychologically? To know that even in death there's no escape from the Liminal hell you've got yourself stuck in.

  • @yourbigfatdog992
    @yourbigfatdog992 Před 5 měsíci +4

    i had to give up on my dreams of film making so its really nice to see someone of his age find success in film making

  • @MasterBroNetwork
    @MasterBroNetwork Před 5 měsíci +7

    That intro is the definition of sensory overload.

  • @zeronoey7765
    @zeronoey7765 Před 4 měsíci

    That was an amazing interview! You directed it very cleanly. It didn’t jump around too much and I felt your own input was constructive to the overall experience. Not something I’ve see very often.

  • @justsomerandomaccount
    @justsomerandomaccount Před 3 měsíci

    Distorted trumpets fits so perfectly with the conversation around 30:00

  • @Xokoy
    @Xokoy Před 5 měsíci +6

    Maybe it's because I'm part of the older generation, but for me, the original post alone feels like it should have been the end of it. Not because the concept is bad. Far from it. To me, the concept is good because of the fact that there is so much fear of the unknown. How did the backrooms come to be? Is there really anything there or is it just the insanity kicking in? How do you end up in there? How do you get out? Is getting out even possible?
    Once you start to answer these questions, it takes a lot away from the whole thing. The backrooms becomes something to learn about and study rather than something that invokes the fear of the unknown; and with it a sense of helplessness and paranoia.

  • @InternetFanatic
    @InternetFanatic Před 5 měsíci +6

    During its peak popularity, I barely cared about the backrooms because I just couldn’t, hopefully I’ll look into the backrooms when the popularity and content farm stuff dies down

  • @nascar453-3
    @nascar453-3 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Great video I love this form of content I subscribed and look forward to seeing more. Btw have you checked out EAS horror? It’s pretty cool it is emergency alarm system horror and it’s creepy and enthralling at the same time

    • @Raymundo_2112
      @Raymundo_2112  Před 5 měsíci +2

      I love EAS horror! Thanks for subscribing!

  • @goldalien2016
    @goldalien2016 Před 5 měsíci

    Thank you for discussing skibidi toilet. I'm a fan of the actual series, and the creator's other sfm videos (The "When the car radio doesn't work but you're a beatboxer" is a personal favorite of mine), I just wish that children never got ahold of it

  • @dinglydinglson
    @dinglydinglson Před 5 měsíci +5

    i like raymundos voice, its very soothing

  • @teirusureynard9279
    @teirusureynard9279 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I think it depends what you mean.
    The zeitgeist of it have been bastardized into FNAF-y Mascot Horror.
    However, people are still making use of an endless miasma of pure emptiness and loneliness that has been hard to capture in other horror, but most of the monsters do not work for me.
    Different "levels" are fine, though numbering them, to me, gets weaker. The less explaine, the better. It makes every liminal space, indoor or out, feel like it could be a graphic of this otherworldly prison.

  • @Super88-2
    @Super88-2 Před 5 měsíci +6

    I fucking love that fake podcast bit, its so accurate to whay happens and is funny as hell

  • @carealoo744
    @carealoo744 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Thank you for introducing me to that toilet series- it is honestly really cute and intriguing

  • @Man-wolf-
    @Man-wolf- Před 5 měsíci +12

    Tbh i feel like people forget this very childish contact for horror media was always being made, i found an old drawing my mom made when she was a kid and it was of a baby jason voorhees and it reminded me of old cringy fnaf & creepypasta art i made as a kid
    That sort of contact was always being made for horror media-the only difference is now the internet is bigger and like you mentioned various adult youtubers are desperete to pander to kids

  • @CharlesM2
    @CharlesM2 Před 5 měsíci +5

    I’m going on 23 years old now, nearing the start of Generation Z when I was born. In my opinion, I feel like the very core issue on why the younger generations seem to be more affected by tech is the “content farm” of it all.
    Children aren’t being given actually meaningful and interesting videos *for* them. They’re being given the most profitable option, which is flooding the child market and making it impossible for an 8 year old to not get hooked on these “nothing-content” videos unless their youtube is highly curated for them. I think the only way to fix this is youtube cracking down even more so on children’s content and possibly making it less lucrative if your channel is flagged as “child friendly”.
    I know, it sounds like a terrible solution that would send ripples even into regular youtube content, but that’s all I can think of at this moment. I don’t know, if we really cared about our kids the way we think we do, we’d try to make the highest quality options for them in terms of entertainment. It doesn’t have to all be Ms. Rachel style videos for babies, but at least require some amount of effort to be profitable if it’s going to be exposed to the most vulnerable of our population, right? I don’t know, I just wanted to share some of my thoughts. (Sorry to all the TL;DR’s lmao)

    • @legendsdontdie466
      @legendsdontdie466 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Yeah I agree. I'm going on 14 making me late Gen Z/In the middle, and it makes me sad how people are taking things made for yall to enjoy only for it to be taken and turned into mindless content for Gen Alpha/Late Gen Z.
      I feel that the BEST way to solve this situation is not to make videos for ytkids or yt that arent brainless. Just don't give your kid an iPad out of the womb.
      But hey, what can I say. These parents aren't gonna stop destroying their children with unsupervised internet access. Thanks for the comment.

    • @CharlesM2
      @CharlesM2 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@legendsdontdie466 Yeah I agree totally about the whole iPad kids thing, I guess at this point it’s just inevitable until parents start monitoring their kids screen time better. At least when they’re like 5-10 years old, like damn I had a flip phone until high school ☠️. But honestly I have no problems with younger kids getting involved, especially when they have no choice over what is being shown to them by youtube’s for profit “algorithm” that only shows what is making them the most money. Also, thank *you* for the response!

    • @Raymundo_2112
      @Raymundo_2112  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Real asf

  • @teirusureynard9279
    @teirusureynard9279 Před 5 měsíci +2

    7:34 - it is why I feel kids will sit at a table with people they don't like than people they don't know, or worse, alone.

  • @ReckKit
    @ReckKit Před 29 dny +1

    The fact that both you and Kane Pixels are my age and this successful makes me want to do something with my life

  • @Noah-yg7es
    @Noah-yg7es Před 5 měsíci +16

    I remember when the backrooms was about the fact that you ARE alone, rather then you aren't.

  • @jermfanaccount
    @jermfanaccount Před 5 měsíci +17

    the idea of wacky cartoon characters being stuck in the backrooms is so funny to me because they just completely break the immersion in such a silly way.
    imagine you're trudging over miles and miles of endless mouldy carpet, trying desperately to find any sign of exit, or even a sign of another life. you're incredibly dehydrated, tired and all you want to do is just go home, go to bed and try to forget this nightmare. you feel like you're about to go completely insane. then you turn a corner and boom: Peppino fuckin' Spaghetti from Pizza Tower is just standing there, like it's just his sprite straight from the game standing in front of you. why is he here?? how did he even get here??? did he mach run so fast into a wall that he phased through it or something??? honestly i think i'd immediately snap and go completely insane if i witnessed that in person. fat sweaty italian man jumpscare

    • @gambroneyumike869
      @gambroneyumike869 Před 5 měsíci

      Amogus kid moment?

    • @theholypeanut8193
      @theholypeanut8193 Před 5 měsíci +3

      And also just anything that looks not realistic like just seeing some fictional character just soloing the bacteria thing. I swear to God, if I see one of those cringe ass backrooms animations and it includes ANY character from MD, I'm most likely gonna absolutely go mental.

  • @Gabonation
    @Gabonation Před 2 měsíci +1

    the backrooms as a concept and fundementally is perfect, the liminal spaces that never end and continue forever unlike your sanity that continues to deplete until it snaps like a reed sounds a genuinely good horror.
    its just what people do to it ruin it, the backrooms would've been really good if it weren't ruined by many factors

  • @SpookyPupTV
    @SpookyPupTV Před 5 měsíci +4

    I like how he made a video called "the backrooms have been completely ruined" 11 months ago, then posts this. Asking the questin "have the backrooms been ruined?"

  • @RandomTrainfan
    @RandomTrainfan Před 5 měsíci +5

    The “Official” Backroom lore really died in 2020

  • @anthonyslaptheknee9344
    @anthonyslaptheknee9344 Před 5 měsíci +7

    This doesn't just affect horror but all media. Just look at the influence memes have on the world. They are kinda like... the dna of the soul. Monsoon is one of my favorite characters from that game and he has alot to say and i feel its more special if you played the other metal gear games and that goes for all of MGR but the internet kinda just simplified him to "he likes among us jokes" which is both funny and a tad bit of misunderstanding. The internet can warp your perception of something you like. Being honest, a lot of the community was very annoying, and it warped how i looked at the game itself. I still love MGR. It's a fantastic game, but i won't forget the era of memes that became annoying... and being sort annoying is a part of the dna of the internet.

  • @Tiosedan
    @Tiosedan Před 5 měsíci +3

    For anyone wanting a good level, I'd recomend level "The maze, the creature and the monster" (600 and something).