How to Choose the Best Adventure Motorcycle Tires (Tyres)

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  • čas přidán 15. 01. 2018
  • There are lots of tire options for adventure bikes. Here is Bret's advice on selecting the right type of tires for the riding you do.
    Lots more to learn at MOTOTREK.net/
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    #AdventureMotorcycling #AdventureBike #WorldTravel
    #AdventureRider #MotorcycleTraining #HowToRide #LearnToRide

Komentáře • 198

  • @caruser4
    @caruser4 Před 6 lety +20

    My first tire was an Shinko 705 and I mostly rode on the highway so I switched to a Metzeler Tourance. It only took one short trip on dirt for me to realize I wanted my Shinko back 😂

  • @vermithrax-pejorative
    @vermithrax-pejorative Před 6 lety +5

    I’ve deem ADV riding for a year and this is by far the best tire summary I’ve ever seen. Am a little impatient with CZcams for not having shown me your channel earlier!

  • @jcfounders
    @jcfounders Před 6 lety +11

    You're really straight to the point in the videos ive seen no fluff great advice thanks keep it up

  • @LookattheBiggerPic
    @LookattheBiggerPic Před 6 lety +9

    I did around 7,000 miles over most of the western US this summer, only about 500 miles of that off-road on a pair of Shinko 804/805, riding my R1200GS Very fully loaded. I chose these because I had planned some VERY demanding off-road portions of the ride and felt based on many comments out there that the 804/805 combination would be good enough for road work and a real asset in the off-road - this turned out to be the case and the perfect choice. Considering my nearly 600lb GS + 230lb me + 70lb of luggage, say 900lbs on the 804/805 combo, both pressured to 32/30psi respectively - I, simply put, had the best most comfortable ADV ride I've ever had! Road noise initially was surprisingly good (subtle but pleasant), handling was Very surprisingly good at speed with tires giving lots of indication when they were at adhesion limits in high-speed corners... The rubber compound once warm was quite sticky, performed reasonably well in Very intense rain (3hrs of torrential rain at 80+ mph thru Wyoming). Off road was marvelous with only the slightest extra drift sideways, accelerating thru corners but very acceptable and easy to handle. My only real complaints were speed rating of only 99mph which I occasionally exceeded while passing a grumpy senior citizen out in the middle of nowhere who was determined not to let me pass - I clicked 110mph and did pass, keeping speed high till he was a 1000 meters behind... People can be so funny sometimes... Felt a little nervous once I exceeded 100, briefly imagining my entrails dangling from the speed limit sign down the way... Yikes! The other annoyance with these came when the front had worn enough to cup pretty bad, by then progressively causing more and more uncomfortable noise and vibration until I simply could NOT take it anymore - stopped over in Spokane, WA and got the front replaced (still with about 30% or it's life left) with a Shinko 705 (all they happened to have that day in my GS size)... Overall I'd have to say without reservation that the 804/805 is the Best value in a more off-road oriented ADV tire! I might also add that I installed "Ride-On" sealent in both tires to Ride-On spec for off-road use. This produced superb smoothness and produced a little extra insurance against a puncture ruining my fast ride sections - highly recommend this addition to my fellow ADV riders! (I did also have a professional grade tire plug kit and electric pump with me at all times, tucked in nicely right next to my first aid kit with additional field triage kit since I rode the entire nearly 8,000 miles solo, much of it outside of cell range and some of it without GPS signal)...

    • @StellarStreak
      @StellarStreak Před 2 lety

      Wish! Nice read.
      You should write a blog about your adventure trip.

  • @jasonramey1597
    @jasonramey1597 Před 4 lety +12

    Your ending statement really hit home for me as a new “adventure” rider. ‘Buy the right tire for YOUR adventure’. Now I don’t feel like my street tires discount my adventure bike since I do about 80/20 street to dirt. Excellent video.

    • @SuzukiC41
      @SuzukiC41 Před 2 lety

      Yup! Best piece of advice is always going to be to fit what you need for what you're doing. Nothing wrong with 80-20 tires either. I've done cross-country trips with 80-20 and 50-50 tires and planned each trip accordingly

    • @Mattventuring
      @Mattventuring Před 18 dny

      @@SuzukiC41 I regret getting a 80/20 because my experience is that I reach the tyres limits off road all the time but rarely when on road so think it best to bias more towards off road where you need to performance most

  • @scottwells6259
    @scottwells6259 Před 6 lety +2

    Another terrific video. Explaining the plain facts about tires and tire selection are tremendously appreciated. Keep them coming.

  • @sulos4646
    @sulos4646 Před 6 lety +6

    Using the Karoo 3 now for 4-5 years for snow ride, love it.

  • @SheenHunter-SeattleFreeze

    You're killin' it! This is fantastic.

  • @multistradino724
    @multistradino724 Před 4 lety +2

    You’re simply the best! Thank you so much for all the advice.you’re n°1 with explanation, video, fun. Never boring.

  • @debroyprasenjit
    @debroyprasenjit Před 4 lety +2

    This is bloody brilliant! Thank you Bret for the informative videos :)

  • @user-rz7ih2vh1c
    @user-rz7ih2vh1c Před 5 lety +5

    Such a great channel. Thanks for your work.

  • @dznnf7
    @dznnf7 Před 6 lety +7

    I've never seen a bike service area like that in my life. Didn't know they existed!

  • @akepettersson4847
    @akepettersson4847 Před 6 lety +1

    I bought my 2015 GSA used , and I have Anakee 3 now. This spring I will have Conti TKC 70. Thank’s , you helped me here 🙌.

  • @ScratchBabble
    @ScratchBabble Před 6 lety +11

    That was a really great explanation thanks so much. I'm new to adventure and there is a lot of sand here. I went in the wrong direction after stock to the 705

  • @finlaggan-lordoftheisles-7982

    Thanks ! Keep up the good work and videos.

  • @Big_Abomination
    @Big_Abomination Před 6 lety +7

    This is a great channel. Underrated

  • @edysinsimon8646
    @edysinsimon8646 Před 6 lety +2

    Wow! You're a couple of miles from my place on the river! I remember, as a "kid" riding my honda 350 scrambler, it had a pair of street tires and when it came time to play "tag" in the cow fields , us guy's would ride around to the cow "pies" and rip it up onto the closest rider! I got covered with cow crap that day! I also learned how important knobbies are to the off road motorcycle experience!

  • @irishrover63
    @irishrover63 Před 6 lety +3

    Great info Bret. Just about to change my front tyre for another Avon Trailrider, got 16,000 miles from it and 11,500 from the rear.👍☘

  • @MrBeefsnorkel
    @MrBeefsnorkel Před 4 lety +1

    ive watched so many of your videos. combined with your in depth knowledge of the topics and the quality / spunky of the video production im shocked you dont have way more followers and viewers

  • @Voodooand
    @Voodooand Před 6 lety +3

    Best ADV oriented tire explainer video i have yet seen on CZcams. Good thoughts on riding style, wear etc etc.

  • @jrey7078
    @jrey7078 Před 5 lety +4

    I had the Heidenau Scout K60 on my GS Adventure. They wore like steel and were good both on the road and off. One thing to note, the front tire howled like a hunting beagle chasing a rabbit at highway speed 60-80 mph

  • @miguelmiranda9122
    @miguelmiranda9122 Před 6 lety +2

    Wow well done as usual. Very well explained. That's it one of my favorite you tube channels!

  • @nsrlegaltech
    @nsrlegaltech Před 4 lety +1

    The Shinkos really are incredible value and performing tyre in my experience...again great vlog👍

  • @lackingpoint
    @lackingpoint Před 6 lety +1

    Great video. I've recently subscribed to your channel and it's found your videos quite useful and entertaining.
    I was originally looking very hard at getting the Karoo 3 but after some research ran across the Avon Trekriders. The karoos looked a little more aggressive than what I was wanting and the Trekrders follow the same vein of design but leans a little more towards the tarmac. I've been thoroughly pleased with the Trekriders on hard surfaces and surprised at how well they perform on dirt roads and some of the softer singletrack type terrain. They are newer to Market and you don't hear too much about them. Though being marketed as 50/50 tires are probably closer to 70/30 but for my riding purposes they work really well.

  • @secretsolddad
    @secretsolddad Před 6 lety +3

    I ran the tkc70, 70/30 tire, for the first half of my world ride (europe, middle east and asia to australia) and did really well both on road and offroad. They only fall short a lot when you hit deep sand or mud, but I was able to do 40k kilometers on them. I switched to the karoo 3 and they are simply amazing in sand and mud! Can't speak for the mileage yet as don't have so much mileage on them yet.

  • @elendshuraglump3620
    @elendshuraglump3620 Před 6 lety +2

    A very clear an comprehensible explanation .. Thanks. Best regards from Germany

  • @RiderMark
    @RiderMark Před 6 lety +2

    Perfect explaining!

  • @maximilianlindemann3990

    Great advice, helped a lot!

  • @SayanChakraborty58
    @SayanChakraborty58 Před 5 lety +5

    Is it only me who believes this is best channel for moto enthusiasts?

  • @eduardomonteclar392
    @eduardomonteclar392 Před 3 lety

    Ty Bret i’ve learned a lot

  • @kingklr1
    @kingklr1 Před 5 lety +1

    Good video. Keep them coming

  • @uragovea5473
    @uragovea5473 Před 4 lety +1

    Excellent video. Thank you.

  • @mose717
    @mose717 Před 6 lety +8

    Hi Bret. I really like your ADV focus videos. I'd love to see a video about how to load, strap, and balance a bike and also how you and a passenger get on and off a fully loaded bike.

  • @F.Krueger-cs4vk
    @F.Krueger-cs4vk Před 5 lety +2

    Excellent information, thankyou from 🇦🇺

  • @boomcity4942
    @boomcity4942 Před 2 lety

    Always excellent. You are top in your field.

  • @laurieberg2880
    @laurieberg2880 Před 6 lety +1

    Another great video Brent. Found you through ARR podcasts. The more I ride and practice the better my Bridgestone 502's work🙂

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs Před 6 lety

      Laurie Berg, keep watching and spreading the word.
      It sounds like Jim is going another way with the rider skills segments. You will find me here and at the school doing what I do.
      Hope to see you at the school someday.

  • @douglascassetty6553
    @douglascassetty6553 Před 6 lety +2

    Great job of putting out the good info.

  • @jdman7170
    @jdman7170 Před 6 lety +2

    Another great video! Too bad you aren't on the east coast. Would love to attend one of your classes.

  • @narkeeso
    @narkeeso Před 6 lety +3

    Bret, love your videos! Would love to see a video for changing tires on the field!

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs Před 6 lety

      I do want to do a remake of that video for mototrek, its been many years.

  • @BlackdogADV
    @BlackdogADV Před 5 lety +2

    I found happiness with the Mitas E07s however I took a set of Shinko 804-805s with me to the Dempster and found them surprisingly good. The Shinkos cost me less then $200 shipped to my door. The K60s are great for high mileages but lack in traction because of the center bar.

    • @MOTOTREK
      @MOTOTREK  Před 5 lety

      Great. We run Shinko 705's on the producer-cameraman's bike and love them.

  • @markjacobs6294
    @markjacobs6294 Před 6 lety +19

    I've been running 804/805 Shinko's for 2 years 50,000 miles and counting. I'm getting 10k on a front and 5k on the back with 60/40 riding. They handle just as well on pavement as the 705s but are better off road. I've ridden over 75,000 miles on 705s. They need to stagger the rear blocks for more lateral stability and they'd be perfect. They cost less than half the other tires you showed. Less than $300 a pair. I've owned all of them and will use the Shinko's until I either die or they quit making them. The ONLY disadvantage to the Shinko's are all the smartass comments from BMW riders about them, STINKOS, CHEAPOS, etc. Current bike 2016, Tiger 800XCa - Frisco, Colorado.

    • @kevinburgstiner7191
      @kevinburgstiner7191 Před 6 lety +1

      Mark Jacobs
      I've got an F800GS and on the 2nd set of tires I decided to try the 805's. Loved them, except the quality from factory left a bit to be desired. (Kind of oblong [out of round] on the rear). Third set was the 705's (currently on the bike). Love them! I don't know if I'll stray from shinko ever. And the price!... Works for me!

    • @westendraju
      @westendraju Před 6 lety

      Mark Jacobs km in

  • @georgeb3970
    @georgeb3970 Před 3 lety

    Great description of the first tire.....Dunlop!

  • @ArizonaAdv
    @ArizonaAdv Před 6 lety +2

    Nice video I just came across your channel . I'm new to the Dual Sport world. I road off road all my life .With a back injury no longer competition. My wife said you need to ride so I chose a Xr650l set up really nice . I wondered what those charging wires were on my XR you answered my question.Racing off road and ISDE is a little different than packing tents and tools. Dual Sporting is A new world that I am quickly falling in love with. Thanks for the info. God Bless """RIDE ON"""

  • @oneblackdogrides
    @oneblackdogrides Před 5 lety +1

    So you can balance tyre aggressiveness with skill level - that must be why I keep using the Dunlop 606 front & rear.
    Thanks for the awesome explanation, appreciate it.

  • @EdSchneeebly
    @EdSchneeebly Před 6 lety +2

    great vid as always! when my streets wear out i'll be getting some tkc80s for my tranny and start tearing up the Pyrenees :) Love your presentation and editing, would love to see some hands on mechanic type videos - repairing a tyre/inner tube in the middle of a dirt road, fork seals, and other servicing stuff related to adventure bikes :) looking forward to the next vid!

    • @MOTOTREK
      @MOTOTREK  Před 6 lety

      Thanks for the suggestions, Ed.

  • @lonewolf3804
    @lonewolf3804 Před 6 lety +1

    If there is a "subject" subject to being the origin of a world war, it is precisely: TIRES! Excellent, the initiative to use the "weapon" of the armistice, in this "subject" so sensitive! I think everyone understood well, PEACE BROS!

  • @UncleWally3
    @UncleWally3 Před 6 lety +2

    Michelin Pilot 4 Trail - excellent for 90/10 riding . . . an amazing tire. For some “adventure” bikes a Pilot 4 Trail front and a Pilot 4 GT rear will work - but off pavement isn’t what they’re designed to do.

  • @osimnod
    @osimnod Před 6 lety +1

    Excellent description of major tire types and their application. Appreciate your informative videos. Am looking to go less aggressive than D606 on my 640 ADV.

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs Před 6 lety

      osimnod I like the 606. I ran that on the front of my F800GS several tips on Mexico paired with aTKC80 or Kenda Big Block

    • @osimnod
      @osimnod Před 6 lety

      Depending on size availability, I was thinking of Big Block or Motoz Tractionator Adventure H/T as an alternative. Really depends on how gnarly the off road riding sections will be this year in the Sierra Nevada.

  • @morningbetterlast
    @morningbetterlast Před 4 lety

    Riding gravel and forest roads on Pilot Road 5 on R1200GS this whole summer after starting my motocross training. Sure I have limited turning capacity and I won't be able to get anywhere when the surface is wet yet I'm really aware how bad it might end up and pay alot of attention to what I'm doing. And yeah, I had dropped the bike alot.
    Gonna buy some Pirelli Dakar starting next year season in spring and just have a blast enjoying that difference in traction :)

  • @Speedytrip
    @Speedytrip Před 6 lety +2

    Ive tried the k60 and shinko 804/805 on my scrambler. The k60 squares off really fast and cost twice as much as the Shinkos. I was a big k60 fan...until I tried the shinkos. In my case the shinko wears more evenly and the rear lasts just as long. The front k60 wears like iron but still way cheaper to go with the shinko and they perform just as well in all conditions.

  • @ChawkiChahed
    @ChawkiChahed Před 4 lety

    Good video. I'm riding Mitas e13 front and e09 rear. Wonderful. Even on pavement

  • @22fret
    @22fret Před 4 lety +1

    Below 140 the Heidenau doesn't have that centre bar. I have just bought a set for my old Transalp...

  • @LouTube386
    @LouTube386 Před 5 lety +2

    Great video

    • @MOTOTREK
      @MOTOTREK  Před 5 lety

      Glad you enjoyed it, Louis.

  • @outty77
    @outty77 Před 6 lety

    I was just thinking about shopping for new rubber, so this is a timely video. Thank you!. I have the K60 scout on the rear right now, but I think I should go a little more aggressive as I plan to learn how to ride in sand this spring. All the off road trails around my home are soft sand.

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs Před 6 lety

      outty77 the K60 does OK but more paddle will help,

    • @outty77
      @outty77 Před 6 lety +1

      I might try the good old, venerable TKC 80's

  • @Marbroza
    @Marbroza Před 6 lety +2

    Great video as always man. I had the shinko's on my KTM 990, Best tyres ever

    • @monchitoscalecrawling5035
      @monchitoscalecrawling5035 Před 3 lety

      Hi. I also have a 990. What shinkos are you using and how many miles you get on the rear tire. Thanks

    • @Marbroza
      @Marbroza Před 3 lety

      @@monchitoscalecrawling5035 I was very fortunate on my set, I got about 12000km's , mainly tar, with about 15km out of 100 being dirt
      I had the Shinko 805's on

  • @noostNL
    @noostNL Před 4 lety +1

    I always find it interesting that you guys choose the Heidenau k60 with the centerline. To me, the Heidenau without the centerline is better 🤷

    • @rogerpitre8663
      @rogerpitre8663 Před 3 lety

      It depends on the size. Tread pattern differ according to the tire size. On the bigger ADV bikes, with the 150 rear section, it's not a choice you get to make.

  • @DigitalSamTV
    @DigitalSamTV Před 6 lety

    U left out the best adventure offroad oriented tire : dunlop d606 (rear only). And the all round best adventure tire which sticks to.the pavement like glue (better even than less aggressive tread tires) and works very decent offroad also : continental tkc80

  • @Ralphsleep
    @Ralphsleep Před 6 lety +6

    After extensive research, chemical analysis and a few shamanic rituals, I ended up choosing the Shinko 805:804

  • @jpgo
    @jpgo Před 6 lety

    Hi Bret, any chance you can explain or give recommendations about when is safe to exchange your tires? I have different opinions with friends about when is the right time to get new tires!

  • @marcopi6663
    @marcopi6663 Před 6 lety +1

    K60 have different tired tread depending on the size, 130/80/17 is much more "off" than 150/70/17 , even though not specialised.

  • @smoth26
    @smoth26 Před 4 lety +1

    Hi. Thank you for video. Can aggressive tire (metzeller tourance) give vobbling on my handlbar on low speed (less than 100 km/h) ?

  • @shreedevi2005
    @shreedevi2005 Před 6 lety

    Another excellent and informative video, Bret. Can you elaborate a little further on how to evaluate the wear on a 50-50 and more aggressive tire? I have a tire that has done about 7500kms and the knobs are getting rounded off on the rear. You mentioned that this will reduce the traction. Even though the treads are still very deep, is this tire done or close to being done? I do only gravel roads (though some forest service roads are steep and poorly graded here in BC).

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs Před 6 lety +1

      motonut czcams.com/video/7GWw99mbScU/video.html
      Does this answer your question OK?

    • @shreedevi2005
      @shreedevi2005 Před 6 lety

      Thank you sir. I guess I'll be shopping for a new tire. 😀

    • @peterbrophy9442
      @peterbrophy9442 Před 6 lety

      Great video’s Bret! Have you done a vid about how to decide if using Tubeless vs Tubes? Thanks again for all the great advice for us newbies.

  • @eatcommies1375
    @eatcommies1375 Před 6 lety +1

    I run K60s. IMO weight of the big adv bike makes up in some ways for lack of knobs off road riding straight.Important thing to me on dirt are side knobs for cornering. That’s talking about dry stuff not greasy mud.

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs Před 6 lety

      PaulXT1200Z when it’s dry even the 90/10 Street /dirt work fine

  • @naixgod
    @naixgod Před 6 lety +2

    Very informative ..!!

  • @nelospr
    @nelospr Před 3 lety

    TOP!
    One question:
    I have a CB 500X (2019). The original rear tire needs to be replaced. Can I replace only the rear tire... Or must I replace both front and rear?
    I must add that I am considering changing the tire reference.

  • @Porsche996driver
    @Porsche996driver Před 3 lety

    Metzeler Tourance are great 80/20 balance for my ‘05 GS mit Öhlins.

  • @acidcold5819
    @acidcold5819 Před 6 lety +2

    You're the Man!
    Nice head, by the way.

  • @ronanrogers4127
    @ronanrogers4127 Před 6 lety +1

    Nice jacket, and the contrasting cap looks good too.
    I’m a little disappointed in my K60 Scouts because of the centre line being unbroken. Otherwise they’re a great tire, but they don’t give enough grip in wet off-road environments. I might try Mitas next, or maybe Shinko

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs Před 6 lety

      Ronan Rogers you might look at the Mefo super Enduro too...

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs Před 6 lety

      Ronan Rogers yes I had to match the cap to my pants

    • @navkolosvity6873
      @navkolosvity6873 Před 5 lety

      Ronan Rogers mitas is a shit . I’m used k-60 too. Yes it’s not for swamp but it’s not bad on wet road

  • @coloradomotorider8646
    @coloradomotorider8646 Před 5 lety +2

    Bret, great advice. Any possibility of a more in-depth video on the tires YOU use for different riding conditions/trips/terrain? I often see you on what look like mainly street tires but you're off-road in the videos. Perhaps some tips on traversing off-road with such tires without large knobbies, etc.? I ride an adventure bike but also (mainly) use it for commuting on tarmac and can't switch back and forth between tires all the time. I know there are no tires that do everything perfectly, but perhaps some tips from you about your preferences might help. Just a thought. Great channel!!!

    • @MOTOTREK
      @MOTOTREK  Před 5 lety

      Yes, Manan! Stay tuned! New tire video coming this week!

    • @coloradomotorider8646
      @coloradomotorider8646 Před 5 lety +1

      @@MOTOTREK Really? What timing! Haha. Thank you.

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs Před 5 lety

      czcams.com/video/YnEcI3F_pqE/video.html

  • @ethancheng1595
    @ethancheng1595 Před 3 lety

    Awesome video. The closing message is really important - be honest with yourself. I think I'm gonna go with 90/10 for my next set of tires. I don't really go into wet mud at all. It's mostly loose gravel and dry soil in the mountains. The only thing I'm having doubts with is puncture resistance -- that has to do with the compound used and not the tread pattern, right? Or is it both - it's the compound, but manufacturers tend to use a more hard-wearing compound for the off-road biased model?

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 Před 3 lety

      Remember off road tyres have stiff sidewalls to deal with rough terrain. road based tyres have softer sidewalls for better road cornering. If soft compounds are used for off road tyres chunks of rubber can get ripped off by stones and rocks

  • @PSmith-qp2lo
    @PSmith-qp2lo Před 5 lety

    I have a question maybe even a review/explanation video.... tubed vs tubeless tyres (unless its already been done and ive missed it)....im moving away from sport bikes and im currently (18/8/19) looking at buying an Africa Twin. Now most of my riding is going on street, trips and tours etc...firstly round the UK but then maybe further afield. And i will be taking loaded panniers and the wife quite a bit.... i know there are better "touring" bikes but i like the look of the ADV bike! The Honda has tubed tyres. I've heard they run hotter on street, harder to fix punctures and my main concern, which is why i hit CZcams and the trusted MOTOTREK comments section, ive heard that IF you pick up a nail for example and 70mph, a tubeless tyre can handle punctures better. When a tubed tyre takes a nail at 70 mph, the tube can deflate instantly, collapsing the tyre with it. A tubeless tyre can capture the nail (screw, or pointy road debris of your choice) in the tyre’s thick main layer, sealing around the intruder to keep the air inside, It doesn’t always work out that way, but a tubeless tyre gives you better odds of experiencing a slow deflation that gives you a chance to get off the road safely, instead of sudden and total deflation. Any advice greatly appreciated... 🇬🇧✌

  • @mauricethingsbcgallardo1686

    The best adventure videos on CZcams. I have a question, IO recently changes from touring to adventure and bought a Versys 300x, I changed the stock tires to new Shimko 705 and now at speeds over 100ks the bikes feel like it weaves, I have also checked the front and rear alignment and all is OK, the dealer has no clue, would you have a suggestion as to why? your input is appreciated.

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs Před 5 lety

      It could simply be the change in tyre design. It is not uncommon for different brand to feel that different.

  • @danielpotter8957
    @danielpotter8957 Před 4 lety

    Just bought a 2017 honda africa twin. Mainly road use, any recommendations please?

  • @mrblacktrh
    @mrblacktrh Před 6 lety

    Would have been awesome if you’d list the tires you show in the video in it’s description.

  • @paoloconcina1632
    @paoloconcina1632 Před 6 lety +1

    Hi Bret
    Can you recommend an all round Tyre for a Yamaha super tenere that carry's heavy loads e.g large panniers and wife , an 80/20 or 70/30 Tyre I have the Mitas EO7 awesome Tyre and have 10000km on them ,they are just a bit to noisy on the road
    Thanks
    MR DJ

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs Před 6 lety

      Paolo Concina the Mita e-07 is as quiet as they get for true dirt worthy tires go. One you move to the street focused tires they all quiet down nicely. Even the K60 makes more noise than the e-07.
      Many riders love the Michelin Anakee 3 (they turn a little slow for my taste but are a good tire... on the budget side the Shinko 705 do well

  • @norsefalconer
    @norsefalconer Před 6 lety

    Please be aware that the K60 is designed to be used with it's matching front. That solid center strip tends to hydroplane. This is (supposedly) mitigated by following in the "clear" path created by the front tire

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs Před 6 lety

      Norsefalconer where did you hear this? I've read the website and press literature and that has never been mentioned

  • @grimsadventures-bikesnpetr7913

    What is the best 50-50, currently using mitas e07 +

  • @sachinwadhwani4810
    @sachinwadhwani4810 Před 6 lety

    This is a great video thanks! Wish I'd seen it before I changed my tyres. I don't understand why Revzilla and Fort9 says Karoo 3 are 70/30. I ordered them and when I received them I knew right away damn! Too aggressive for my riding. But I'm using them anyways and they are nice only a bit hard initially and bike feels heavy at low speeds - could it be a tyre pressure issue? Any tips on tyre pressure for Karoo 3 on a Honda Africa Twin?

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs Před 6 lety

      Sachin Wadhwani what pressures are you running?

    • @sachinwadhwani4810
      @sachinwadhwani4810 Před 6 lety

      So I'm running 29 psi front and 36psi rear for now

    • @sachinwadhwani4810
      @sachinwadhwani4810 Před 6 lety

      So what do you think?

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs Před 6 lety

      your pressures sound ideal for daily riding so I don't think your slow turn in is related. You can drop as low as the mid 20's up front to the mid 30's, the rear I would keep between the mid 30's to no more than max.
      I was unable to locate a recommended pressure for that tire on that bike on the Michelin site. You may ask them for those numbers and then experiment by raising 10% then lowering 10% to see how that feels.
      Lowering the pressure will warm the tires faster and may be preferred as the sidewalls of the off-road focused tires can be much stiffer than street focused tires. the K60 is notorious for this whereas the TKC80 has very soft sidewalls.
      a stiff sidewall is good for protecting the rim while running lower pressures.

    • @sachinwadhwani4810
      @sachinwadhwani4810 Před 6 lety

      Than you so much, really appreciate your response and tips

  • @aodhfin
    @aodhfin Před 6 lety

    I will be riding from the continental US mid-west up to Alaska this summer (12K miles) - going through the Yukon and up to Prudhoe bay and back. I'm not going to be in dirt very much at all, but on a LOT of their gravel roads. What tire would you recommend for a first time adventure rider on my '12 V-Strom DL650?

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs Před 6 lety

      Scott Lane for a very high mileage tire with modest performance in dirt and street the K60 scout is still the tire to beat. Great touring tire and better in the dirt that the average street bias ADV tire.
      I like the Mita E07 for better performance off road at less cost it also offers a shorter life span (similar to the average street tire)

  • @ronthompson9555
    @ronthompson9555 Před 6 lety +1

    You didn't mention the TKC80, I find it great on and off road on my heavy KTM 990.

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs Před 6 lety

      Ron Thompson the TKC80 is still the tire most are measured against. Good performer overall but still a premium. It was the only choice for years. (For many bikes)

  • @sgtunix
    @sgtunix Před 6 lety +2

    What's your opinion on the TKC80's? I have been running these for years and I'm really happy with grip, both on pavement and offroad. My rear does not seem to last more than 4000 km (2500 miles) though.

    • @DMC-179
      @DMC-179 Před 6 lety

      Torbjørn Kristoffersen and the anakee wild..

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs Před 6 lety +1

      Great performance on pavement, good performance on dirt, horrible life span and expensive. If money or mileage are not not an issue it is a great tire and still the benchmark others compare against.

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs Před 6 lety +1

      Christiano Marlboro I only know what you know about the Anakee Wild. That is one of the few tires I haven't been able to try out.

    • @DMC-179
      @DMC-179 Před 6 lety

      then it´s time to ;)

    • @Whos-That-Guy
      @Whos-That-Guy Před 6 lety

      Money aside. who can be bothered or has the time to change their tyres every 4,000kms? I have better things to do.. I'd burn through a rear every 2 months if only got 4000kms out of them. I'm way too lazy for that effort...

  • @dokpar5018
    @dokpar5018 Před 3 lety

    Can the GS1150R rim be mounted on a GS1200 Adv K51 motorbike? Is it the same size?
    Thank you

  • @damytzeus
    @damytzeus Před 5 lety +1

    tire compound matters quite a bit. heidenaus use a harder compound and, for how i ride, they're a scary when wet and when cold. less aggressive riders, heidenaus work fine.

    • @nobodyshero200
      @nobodyshero200 Před 3 lety

      Same. I think they are death traps for the way I ride.

  • @evandre02
    @evandre02 Před 6 lety

    Great video.. do you have any videos about motorcycle boots or reviews on your channel??
    Pura Vida

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs Před 6 lety

      Evandre Molina we have one boot review but no selection reviews yet.

  • @yodapapa
    @yodapapa Před 2 lety

    I wonder Karoo Street. Do you have plan to review karoo street?

  • @garyo4456
    @garyo4456 Před 3 lety

    Just wondering if anyone “sipes” the Heidenau for better center strip wear and rain adhesion?

  • @codchristopher
    @codchristopher Před 6 lety +1

    👍

  • @tracey1013
    @tracey1013 Před 6 lety +1

    I just bought a 2013 Suzuki V-Strom 650 and it came with Michelin Anakee 3 tires. There is only 6000 km's on that but I'm looking for a tires that can do a bit more off road then those. My boyfriend has a KLR 650 with the K60 Scout tires, would that be a good choice for the V-Strom? Thanks.

    • @MOTOTREK
      @MOTOTREK  Před 6 lety

      Congrats on the new bike, Tracey!
      Sorry but we can't endorse any particular tire brand :(

    • @tokolosh6467
      @tokolosh6467 Před 5 lety

      For what it worth, the Heidenau K60 Scout is the best all-round 50% on-road 50% off-road tyre available. It will also outlast any of the others. Good luck with your new bike.

  • @paoloconcina1632
    @paoloconcina1632 Před 6 lety

    Hello Bret here is a question for you, I own a super tenere 1200 which weighs 260Kg, i have just bought a set of Metzeler Karoo streets the load rating is 325Kg if I fit all 3 Kappa panniers and myself with out the wife ,its all ready way over that limit or can you please explain regards Paolo

  • @Egg1456
    @Egg1456 Před 4 lety

    I killed a k60 scout on the road in 600 miles on a dr650 at intermediate track day pace.

  • @trex69
    @trex69 Před 3 lety

    I am looking to get into adv and I from all of yalls experience, would you recommend A tube or tubeless tire.

    • @rogerpitre8663
      @rogerpitre8663 Před 3 lety

      Advantages and disadvantages to both. Tubeless can be fixed easily on the trail with a plug kit and some sort of air pump without removing the wheel. Unless you put in some sort of gash in the tire, the air loss when you incur a puncture will usually be more gradual in nature.
      Tube tires, on the other hand will deflate quickly (think front tire deflation in two seconds at 60mph), and you will need to remove the wheel and either patch the hole, if you have the supplies, or use a spare tube, if you brought one. Advantages to tubes are that they can be aired down a lot more for off road riding, without fear of pinch flats.
      One thing to be mindful of is that there is a limit on how low you can go with bigger ADV bikes, before there is an increased risk of bending wheels on sharp edged trail gremlins. I'm sure there are videos out there cautioning on this very thing.
      Also, while there are some models that have both spoked wheels and tubeless tires (my Super Tenere is one of those), spoked rims usually will be of the tubed variety, and cast aluminum will be
      In the end, it will boil down to your bike choice, as very few bikes (if any) of the same model will offer the choice of both.
      For me, tubeless tires and shaft drive steered me to the Yamaha and were major factors in the decision, which I don't regret, three years after. You could talk to the next rider, and the 50lbs weight penalty I took for these options would have been deal breakers for them.

  • @porkoholic
    @porkoholic Před 3 lety

    @6:45 you want us to buy the Karoo 3 right... getting the Karoo 3 then

  • @TheLongjohndong
    @TheLongjohndong Před 4 lety +1

    Why blur the model of dunlop tire yet have all the model names of the others?

    • @MOTOTREK
      @MOTOTREK  Před 4 lety

      We put the wrong name during the edit and blurred it on CZcams after uploading.

  • @mungo75
    @mungo75 Před 6 lety +1

    I would love to know you guys think of the new Pirelli Rally STR?

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs Před 6 lety +1

      mungo75 I haven’t tried that one yet

    • @mungo75
      @mungo75 Před 6 lety

      Bret Tkacs Thanks for the reply Bret. I hope you guys do at some point, a lot of good things being said about it on different forums.

  • @stringtwister7654
    @stringtwister7654 Před 6 lety +3

    Dude great video but whats that on your head??

  • @pandaadventureunboxing6855

    Is there any familiar with ASPIRA TERRENO ???

  • @francoisleblanc6546
    @francoisleblanc6546 Před 6 lety +1

    Just to let you know that the Karoo 3, in spite of their agressive look, are 70% road tire and only 30% off road. Been riding those tires for 7000km on my DR650 and they do great on tarmac and just ok off road. Lateral traction just plain sucks (no side blocks). They do ok in sand and dirt. Not that good in mud either...

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs Před 6 lety

      François LeBlanc thanks for the feedback. On a DR you have much more aggressive DS tires than the big bikes. Lucky for us with 150’s and bigger we do have more options than ever.

    • @francoisleblanc6546
      @francoisleblanc6546 Před 6 lety

      Bret Tkacs , absolutely true ! Been using K60's on my Super Ténéré, they are great on road, real peg grinders. But could use a better tire offroad, not enough grip. Have you tried Motoz tires ? The tractionator Adventure looks like the holy graal for the big adv bikes !!!

  • @robertpolkamp
    @robertpolkamp Před 6 lety +1

    Dunlop what? You didn't mention the model...

  • @motosportirebridgestonemot6703

    BRIDGESTONE BATTLAX ADVENTURECROSS AX41 the best!

  • @jrbass62
    @jrbass62 Před 2 lety

    I'm trying to find the best front tire for Florida sugar sand, anyone?? 2014 Suzuki Vstrom 1000..