BJJ isn't as effective in MMA as it used to be?!
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- čas přidán 27. 05. 2024
- 0:00 - Start
0:42 - Standing up after taken down pt
2:39 - Standing up after taken down pt2
5:52 - Standing up after taken down pt3
6:03 - Standing up after sweep attempt
6:30 - Standing up from bottom guard
8:33 - Standing up from butterfly guard
9:15 - Rhino Kick
10:12 - Standing up from bottom side control
11:24 - Standing up using the cage
12:25 - K Guard
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Gosh, we're so used to seeing you doing a striking masterclass, but your understanding of grappling and wrestling here is ✨️
thanks man!!
I don't know what's better, Jeff's takedown defense or his hype man. Is anybody else loving that guy?
haha cheers!!
Let's go! Cage takedown and takedown defense! Always love your stuff Jeff!
thanks man! ill work on those!
Second this
Yes brother I agree 💯
The fact that every section got live examples is gold ! Especially for K guard, I would have not believed that it can work so well with striking involved !
:)
I'm so glad that you covered this, Jeff. I was literally just telling a fellow student last week who is very frustrated with her inexperience with grappling that, strangely enough, grappling in all its forms is a cooperative way of fighting in that essentially both opponents have essentially agreed to do it when engaging in it... and therefore you always have the option to either disengage or not engage at all. (Please keep in mind I am talking from a grappling standpoint only, no takedowns or strikes involved). The difference IMHO is when your opponent engages you in a clinch and/or takes you down or throws you. Now your only say is to escape, which of course is easier said than done which is why this video is so helpful. Thanks for posting it. With this said, I have found in my own experience that the instinct to get back to standing is so naturally ingrained that many people, regardless of their experience, end up naturally doing many of the the techniques you showed here. I just think many people have the feeling that "Oh, I got taken down and I'm not good at grappling so I'm kinda screwed now." There's always an option as you have just shown. You may have to train it specifically and put some work into it, but it's certainly there.
P.S. I'm loving your recent spate of "Do This, Not That" CZcams technique shorts. Just gold. Thanks as well for those and please keep posting them. The one on proper punching technique where you stress taking your head offline made me go white as I realized when watching it that I had NOT been doing that at all in my recent sparring sessions and couldn't figure out why I was always getting counter hooked on my jab. That was why. Thanks for the reminder.
Hey! Thanks for all the feedback :) I will continue to release those types of videos! Yes cross off centerline has saved me from a counter punch too many times to count!!! Keep up the good training!
People underestimate how much skill is involved in implementing BJJ to MMA specific situations, even as a black belt! Great video!
thank you Attila!!!!
Awesome. Would love to see one on wall takedowns and defense
noted!!
@@MMAShreddedyes!
I am so impressed with this! And as always, amazed at the spectacular footage collection you have accumulated. Also, love the way you lightly but very effectively control the opponents head. So often people use too much force and it is awful. Need to discuss old school breathing haha. Excellent Jeff! Excellent!
wow thanks for the support Nicola!!! I plan on teaching some of this in Vietnam!
just got my gi for bjj. cant wait. also yo jeff u are amazing fighter.
U go give em that work ninja!
thanks man, excited for your BJJ journey!!
Gi is gay
Gi is a waste of time
Amazing content as always
The back take from K-guard is a thing of beauty.
:)
Great video as always, Jeff. Would love to see an updated video on your favourite sweeps/ other tactics when you find yourself on your back
ill see what I can do!!
awesome work, love the practical examples !
thank you!!
Man every time I'm amazed at the quality of your videos and your tips
Thanks man I appreciate it!!
the best one on this topic ever made!!!! Thank you!!!!!
thanks man!!!!
Absolute unit of a video. Great breakdowns.
thank you!!
one of your best videos thank you
Thanks so much!!
Excellent as always
thx!!
Big fan here. Amazing content, very insightful. I always feel like I leveled up after watching. Now just to put it in practice.
thanks man!!
Yo Jeff where are you living and training these days bro? Are you still based in NY? If you are, what happened with the Win Chun Academy that originally moved you to NY to coach there full time? Haven't seen you there for a while now and keen to hear the story of what happened and where you've ended up? @@MMAShredded
Great content!
thank you!
🎉🎉🎉 Most Appreciated thanks for the Vid!
thanks for watching!
DLewis jokes a lot about BJJ but standing up itself is a big part of jits
yes!
You the man bro.
thanks man!
Great video thanks for sharing 💪🏽
thanks!!
Excellent video! A video on cage wrestling would be really helpful
noted :)
I would love any video on defense, you’re a tome of knowledge.
I have tons of videos on the long guard and head movement on my channel! My main defences!
dude stfu , your not funny
Great stuff.
Thanks !
Thanks brother 😊💪👍👊
And yes I am interested in every thing you want to post about bjj and wrestling. I like your style and way of teaching. And as a martial artist I can say is pure quality 💯%
thanks so much!!!
I would love to see videos on the cage takedowns and defense.
noted!!
Muay Thai doesn't work. Just sit down.
Knee
@@kharlamovmaximlelknee what?
haha
wym, if you sit down you can still get kicked lol
@@DeezeNutsInYoMoufit’s a joke brother
Good stuff!
thanks!!
@@MMAShredded 40 years of martial arts training and still going strong. I'm really impressed with your skills and I love your channel!
Awesome video man, the cameraman or coach that is speaking in the background is a certified hype machine haha
hahahaha
Definitely would love to get a video on cage defense & offense
I got one coming this Saturday!
awesome videos
thx!!
Sick video 😃♥
thanks!!
Excellent video! Thank you!
thank you!!!
This is gold content.
thanks!
Why yes I am interested in cage takedowns and defense. I did put some on a list to watch. But, I am definitely interested in learning about it as I don't have any game for that at the moment.
I just released the cage wrestling video, check it out!
fire man!
thanks man!!
Great Work. Cage Work and Cage Takedowns would be great!
cage takedowns coming out tomorrow :)
This is awesome! Love the just stand up slogan!
Can you also make a video on techniques for how to keep people down after taken down with Khabib’s wrist riding or other folk style techniques like what Ben Askren used to do to keep his opponents down.
ill see what I can do!!
Great techniques!
thanks for the support!!!
Gonna need that cage wrestling video
will work on it!
Nice they are many bjj channels but not many mma grappling channels
thanks for watching!
the channel for world peace, gj great work
thanks!!!
Nice!💪🥇
thanks!
Could you do a full guide for striking defense. Youre always so nuanced thank you
ill see what I can do!!
he has some footwork and headmovement vids u could start w in the meantime
@@MMAShreddedthanks!
A possible evolution for recent MMA Grappling ( not only BJJ ) is trapping your opponent limbs while defending striking techniques and initiating submissions from standing position ( as much as I know, five most common UFC submission techniques can be used while standing )
cheers!
Great video! In MMA are u allowed to Elbow the back along the spine? A lot of these take-downs look ripe for heavy elbows or elbow pressure along the spine.
No
gotta love the energy of the cameraman tho
haha true!
thanks you
no prob!
Great Skill!!! As a less experienced grappler i somewhat would try to end it in a guiotine choke. But your task here was to free and better position yourself. Damn fast!
cheers!
Jeff has some skills.👏
Thx!!
awesome techniques videos. can you make a video of how to escape monoplata from mount?
im not sure I know how LMAO
So you mean you don't know right?
Jeff, why haven't you participated in the fight for a while, your performance is amazing
the pay is not worth what I have to sacrifice. I am happy being just a coach and martial artist!
usually you have just a limited number of fights what your body can handle under normal conditions, you have a lot of fighter with neurological damage like lose their memory, lose their ability to concentrate, and becoming emotionally unstable. If you go for biography of bruce lee and jackie chan you gonna read stuff like that they had a lot of times bursts of uncontrolled anger etc. plus the damage done unto your joints. Elbows, shoulders, knee and back do not come back 100% for most fighters, that is one of the reasons you have such a high emphasis on medicine in kung fu to lessen the damage.
Would love to see some gnp defences
ill see what I can do!
@MMAShredded thanks man
pls more of this
cage or gnp
noted!!
Great simple and relevant concept, great sparrings, great level, great videos. 🙌
🫸🤛
thank you!!
Great Material as usual! Though i have to wonder... after you did the self defense championship...dont you sometimes look at some of your techniques and think to yourself: i would never do this in a self defense scenario? Some moves seem very risky.
haha for sure
In all honesty there is lots of demand for a video series on getting up from ground in MMA as well as cagework for avoiding tkdowns/getting to your feet. I know you would sell a lot of videos.. and I'd be first in line. In another question.. how much of this material would you dwell on in your Vietnam retreat?
I plan on teaching all this in the next vietnam MMA retreat! I also take requests from attendees! Email me at jeff@mmashredded.com if you got suggestions!
My teacher of MMA said the same thing : the Juijitsu is not adapted for MMA ground fighting because the striking in ground and opportunity to receive a bad punch in bad moment...
And with good wrestling the strategy of JJB can be counter if i see good...
Hey Jeff, when you post to defend the takedown, are you not concerned with hyperextension or breaking the posting arm as you fall?
post on a bent arm and you should be fine!
Good job, Jeff ! 😊 Yes, BJJ is now so very popular, everybody knows what it's all about, so it's not so unorthodox and surprising as it use to be 20 or 30 years ago... Also nowadays striking is on whole 'nother level... 😊
cheers :)
Don't forget , there are many so called " street fighters " that are completely ignorant of this style , so it's still worth adding to your arsenal, the only other thing I'd recommend is Boxing or Muay Thai
Can you make another for Judo please Jeff ❤
ill try my best!! I only know so much Judo :P
Is Judo better then bjj for self defense
4:46 David fighting Goliath casually in the background
haha
yeah I could definitely use ur expert skills against the cage!
I released the video this last Saturday!
do you often train with the boxing gloves on instead of mma gloves? Also what elbow pads and and shin pads do you recommend for striking and grappling?
yeah because I have more control with them! I wear elbow pads from SMAI and primo shinguards
@@MMAShredded great thank you! I always trying figure out what is the best setup when working with my students.
Finally a bjj video thanks❤️👍
no prob!!
Hey Jeff, I was at Triumph when you came to indy I wanted to ask you at around 8:11 or so, Would a butterfly sweep have been a good alternative since he is holding so tight you have his base under your legs an easy lift and turn would work? or am i crazy?
Edit: i seen when playing back you entered that scene trying the sweep thats my bad i didnt see.
yesss I did try to sweep but when they stay balanced I get up :)
Come back with tatics from the fighters, Do you have from the Zabit Magomedsharispov?
Pretty cool
Thx!
Do you have any videos scaping like this from Gordon Ryan or Andre Galvão?
I want to be a more well rounding fight now after watching you, I’ve done boxing for a while but am starting judo
awesome!!!
When I got my blue belt a few years ago I went to the fight team at my gym since I had done some striking and a lot of my Jiu-Jitsu was not very effective and I was not very good at wrestling up or getting back to my feet and I got punched but in learning that it actually helped my Jiu-Jitsu because it changed my perspective. Also Jiu-Jitsu is much harder when someone's trying to punch you in the face
Cheers!
The people that write those comments is people that have never used Jiu Jitsu. Also they claim if you fight no ruled with bites & eye poking Jiu Jitsu loses not realizing that with less rules Grapplers got even more advantage.
true
Big fan mate. I have been doing MMA training and jiujitsu for a year and a half. But there is still one very basic thing that I cant understand.
How do I protect my nuts?
Please give strong advice. Thanks.
thanks man! hmmm, wear groin protector haha
This is beautiful. You always give us gold Jeff for people who train and want to get better. Id love cage wrestling content.
Just curious but how are you entering k guard in your mma training? Because I noticed you didnt mention closed guard.
in closed guard, you would have to wait till they step on leg up, then transition into K guard! and noted, ill work on some cage wrestling content!
Do a cage bodylock takedown defense 👍
noted!
Could you make the previous two videos you made on these topics not private? Would love to see those videos again
the information in those 2 previous videos are in this video, this video is a re-make but with real time sparring footage and better examples!
How do you deal with very skilled opponents that like to switch to singles as youre getting up to work from there. I dont know if this is right but i kick right through and try to clinch but i feel exposed to foot sweeps and throws right after
yeah doing that works!! it's really situational !
Haven't fully watched the video yet, but wanted to comment on the "just stand up" part. I will say that sometimes that is possible and a decent strategy if you can do it and are better on your feet. That being said, being able to standup in and of itself is a skill. A decent wrestler could stand up.
Important note: He says post with a bent arm for a reason. If you post with a straightened arm, you’re asking for your elbow to get blown out.
cheers!
Cage /wall stuff yes even in bjj class we use the wall/cage a bunch
I just released the cage wall video , check it out in the link in description box
In Finland all this falls under term "submission wrestling" And its simply vital part of mma.
Cage defense video please 🙏🏻
noted!
that's nature...works way better when you're the only one who understands it...also, i'd love to hear your thoughts on a trend i've seen over the years...a lot of the mma community came in disregarding tradional ma as useless and outdated...i've always said the traditional stuff is extremely effective IF you train to fight with it, and that's the issue with most tma schools...however, i feel the more mma advances and evolves the more it starts to resemble tma techniques...oblique kicks, spinning kicks, spinning elbows, hook kicks, trapping, karate-style punching, arial kicks, etc., all techniques that used to be scoffed at but now everyone accepts them as legit (tho trapping i feel is still in the early stages of acceptance in the mma community)...i feel like we're going to come full circle and see that the old ways were 100% legit, we just lost the practical applications training and had to rediscover it...
Amazing how easily the cameraman can switch from Ooweee to Opaaa!
hahaha
Hey Jeff, how many martial arts do you know, and what are they?
he has his main muay thai and adds usually single stuff like from jeet kune do, wing chun, krav maga etc. if you wanna know watch all of his videos
Just curious but during MMA sparring, are you ever looking for sweeps from butterfly? Or is your first option to stand?
depends how comfortable I am and who I am against!
Most styles can work, aside feom the ovvious bullshido/self defense stuff that never gets stress tested through routine sparring and competition. Depends on how proficient the practitioner is, how good their teammates amd coaches are, and what their favored system is built around.
Sambo, judo, wrestling (both catch and reg), bjj, boxing, muay thai, karate, TKD before it turned into gymnastics and point sparring, kickboxing, all can work really well and used to complete other each other.
Non-combat sport/martial art related activities or background can help too.
Look at Lomachenko. Utilized dancing and gymanatics.
I caught a high round house from somebody who I was hand fighting with and they extended to long guard from the clinch. Never had to consider that until the athlete said they used to do ballet before doing muay thai. My lead arm was glued to the back of my head and air tight (ear hole covered and literally face in arm pit with rear hand ready for body and turned into the kick) but it still cleared my guard and the base of the shin hit the top/side of my head.
I didn't think it was possible to generate that kind of force from essentially a standing split position on the very tip of the toes.
Also, if you've ever grappled with a professional breadmaker or rock
climber. Them paws are vice grips.
cheers!
These take downs are only working well in a friendly test fight, but NOT in a real fight.
In training like this, the person who uses take downs rely on it, that the opponent will not hurt him, because he is not a real enemy, just a friendly training partner.
In a real fight a real enemy simply would bring a crushing blow with the fist on the head, rear of the neck of the person who is trying to do the take down and the person would succeed with the take down, but he himself would fall unconsciously (or dead) to the ground and lose immediately.
tell that to the best UFC fighters in the game today 🤦🏻♂️
@jeff chan where are you living and training these days bro? Are you still based in NY? If you are, what happened with the Win Chun Academy that originally moved you to NY to coach there full time? Haven't seen you there for a while now and keen to hear the story of what happened and where you've ended up?
Hey man! Let's just say that gym wasn't for me... haha. Feel free to shoot me a message at jeff@mmashredded.com or DM on instagram @mmashredded! And yes I am still in NYC!
Bro I cannot believe you did a seminar at UConn and I was 10 mins away but had no idea😭. I was studying for a physiology exam that weekend but I could have made it if I just checked the club groupchat💀💀💀
haha damn! next time!
@@MMAShredded I either gotta get one of those online plans or make a trip to Glory in Brooklyn💪 Is that where you’re based out of or are you usually bouncing around?
Its super Effective but the rules Changed ! 😮
cheers!
12:17
How do you go about sparring with striking vs someone going for takedowns? There were a few moments when you clearly held your kick back and slowed it down to not hurt them, and they took the kick (to the ribs) and rushed in for the takedown.
It's kind of annoying because if you went all out on that kick, they would likely think twice before trying to eat a rib kick just to grab your leg.
I always wanted to practice more of my strike defense, but it's hard when my opponent doesn't really respect any of my kicks because im trying to not hurt them lol
at the end of the day it is just sparring and practice! What you said is true, but what can also happen is that the guy taking the kick is tough as nails, or rather take a kick to the ribs in-exchange to get the takedown. Anything can happen in a MMA fight, thats why the sport is so crazy!!
@@MMAShredded Yeah def, plenty of people can keep walking after taking some devastating blows haha. I always wondered if there's a better way to go about sparring, to test the effectiveness of your strikes and to not build false confidence in yourself if your opponent is also always pulling their kicks/knees as well. But I guess like you said, it's just sparring, not actual combat
Cage work Video would be cool
noted!!
you can do freestyle wrestling, catch wrestling or sambo. I think their really good for MMA
cheers!
Cage video would be interesting
cage takedowns coming this Saturday!
Probably one of the most under-rated skill sets of MMA. It truly takes a mental toll on any wrestler/judoka when you get up immediately after a take down. Probably the most clear example was Brock Lesnar vs. Cain Valasquez. When Cain got up after 3 seconds of being taken down I just knew the fight was over. Brock put everything he had into that take down and it was taken away so quickly.
cheers!