Sargent and Greenleaf S&G 6120 safe lock disassembly & troubleshooting
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- Sargent and Greenleaf 6120 electronic safe lock disassembly and troubleshooting. Please post any questions - and especially answers!! Thanks!!
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I was about to buy one of these locks to upgrade my safe. Your video and below comments made me change my mind. What an unreliable junk! A safe lock should not be able to fail.
FWIW, the "NL" (Italian) branded lock Canon sent as a replacement seems to be working fine so far. nllockone.com/
@@paladinjme I've been researching and most locksmiths recommend the GL locks over the NL.
You are a life saver!!!! Thank you for making this video.
Thank you so much for your effort in making this. Saved my day. Thanks again.
Thanks for making this video, I was able to fix my lock,now it opens every time!
Short story: I inherited my late father’s Liberty R-8 safe, that he purchased in 2006. As Executor of his estate, I was constantly in and out of that safe to distribute his coin collection, guns, his and Mom’s jewelry bequeathed to family members and to access legal papers. Safe has this exact same S&G 6120 lock; after transporting the safe from Tennessee to my home in Massachusetts, the lock worked exactly one time…and failed thereafter…with the safe in closed and locked position. After trying four batteries, I contacted Liberty; their service department was great. They told me that the e-locks are good for 15 (+or-) years….and I’m at the 15 year mark. They are sending me a brand new lock…no cost to me….but because the safe is outside of warranty, I’ll incur a locksmith charge. Still, I wish my lock had failed in the open position, as your video tutorial was excellent. I’m now thinking I can at least check the cables connected to the battery and the keypad inside the outside portion of the lock! Once again, just another reason “ya’ gotta love CZcams!” Thank you, sir, for taking the time to tear into this thing!
My grandfather gave me his Liberty Franklin safe, he purchased in 2002. Has a Model 6120 and i'm in the same boat. I opened it with the master code the very first time, and then I put my valuables in it, and then closed the safe. That night, I went to get into it, and it wont open. The keypad will beep at me very rapidly for about 3 seconds after I hit the # key to change the code. Did this ever happen to you, or was it the actual lock not working? For me its the Keypad not accepting the obviously correct code.
@@alanmilburn4590 I’m sorry Alan, but no, this did not happen to me. I think my problem began when unloading the safe from my pickup, wheeled it on a hand dolly down a set of ramps, and we may have let it down “harder” than we wanted. What I can tell you….customer service recommended that I let the safe sit for a while, and give the ‘computer’ time to ‘reset’, then to try again. When that didn’t work, they were great about sending me a new lock set, with a company-certified point of contact who was qualified to install it. While installation did cost me a couple hundred dollars, the tech indicated to me that these lock sets do have a ‘shelf life’, as do all electronics. But if you haven’t already, reached out to Liberty, please do. They were great in helping me through my issue. Good luck, and I wish you well, sir.
@@captaincoyote1792 Luckily, I found a video that had my exact issue. So if anyone is reading this, and is having an issue with entering the correct master code, pushing the # to enter the code, and then the keypad beeps at you rapidly for about 3 seconds without the lock ever engaging or even making a noise as if to try to open; the answer is get a fresh DURACELL 9V battery. I was flabbergasted to find out that brands of batteries do matter. I had a fresh 9V Energizer in my keypad, and this issue was happening. I then replaced it with a fresh Duracell 9V and it opened right up.
'Very good of you to make this video. My lock had exact same issue. After I watched your video I removed the plate that covers up the lock mechanism and holds the spring loaded bolt up. I cut a 1/8 inch diameter piece of plastic welding rod (from Har. Frate store) to just proud, 1/32 inch of the lock mechanism body. Then I reinstalled plate to lock body and it applied enough pressure to make lock work 100% of the time. Safe manufacturer Cann.. sent me a free replacement lock which I will install. I guess I have a spare lock now.. Thanks very much for your work paladinjme..
My pleasure. Glad I could help. Thank you for watching and for your comment!
The counterweight pushes that little nub back. It's supposed to remain in that state in normal use. It's a cheap attempt to prevent bashing it to release the solenoid. If you hit the safe, the counterweight bounces away and the nub clicks in to place where it locks the latch. If the spring on the nub is too strong, then the counterweight won't be enough to push it away. Easiest fix is trim or bend the spring to make it weaker
6:25 it is a anti tampering feature.
Great video!
I just opened mine up out of curiosity. That hole on the front where you mentioned a ball bearing might have gone. No ball bearing. That steal plate on the inside of the cover should cover that nub when it’s all back together. Maybe there is a way to adjust it. Good luck!!
Did you ever figure out the problem?
And who cares locksmith thank.
You're a tinkerer like me and you just like tinkering with things and trying to figure them out.
I started repairing clocks just for that reason. Kind of fun to Tinker with them and problem-solve.
Hi Paladinjme, after watching your other video on the Variac upgrade, I got curious to see what other videos you've made, this one I watched all the way to the end even though I had absolutely no interest in a safe lock contraption what so ever, it most likely has something to do with how you easy you come across when you troubleshoot stuff, you have a knack to get people's attention and make mundane stuff look interesting, don't lose it.
Thanks! I appreciate the compliment and you watching the videos!
@@paladinjme I second that mundane motion, good show.
Sitting between the rear drill plate and the lock body is a small pin or ball bearing, if any force is applied to the lock body, the bearing falls away, effectively 'deadlocking' the bolt.
Great video How to take it apart great?
I believe that the spring pin that your having issues with is the re-locking mechanism. its designed as back up security feature in case some one removes the cover plate of the lock. It may just be worn or it could be there was a ball bearing or something that should be installed on top of the pin before you put the cover plate on. Just a guess.
I believe you're right... ;-) Thanks for watching!!
A good video for this lock is "Sargent & Greenleaf electronic lock issues Locksmith Crystal Lake........." This lock is called a Z02 or Rotary Bolt
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thanks thats me!!
Did you ever find out what the function if that piece was? Was there a ball bearing in there that fell out? Or, was there something protruding on the safe door that pushed it in?
Just FYI.... it's a 6123 model Z02, not a 6120. Thanks for sharing! I shared a similar video on my channel these locks are known for "issues"
Which lock is known for issues the 6123 or the 6120? I have a mesa safe & the keypad just died. S&G recommended the 2006-102 as a replacement. Any idea if this is a reliable lock?
@@Metalhead-4life I'm NOT a fan of the S&G models as a whole. I'd personally recommend Securam. I was a huge seller of the 6120 models they work well but fail after a few years or so.
I think I have the same lock in my Cannon Gun Safe. Mine is malfunctioning and I am locked out of it but mine has a different problem. This seems to be the only video on the Internet showing the same lock as mine, there are many different S&G 6120 locks.
Do you still have this lock? I could use some measurements or even the entire lock.
Thanks.
Thanks for watching and for your comments. I may still have the lock...if I do, what measurements do you need?
Hello. Perhaps the only video in which it shown how can I repair and not completely replace lock. I have another problem. If possible, help or make a similar video. One of the keys on my keyboard does not work well. I cleaned the keyboard with a jet of compressed air. it helped but not for long. How can I disassemble the keyboard and clean it? Keyboard AMSEC ESL 10. Thanks.
Am Sec ESL 10 XL, sometimes give you some warning, you got yours, If I were you, i would order another lock and keypad, they are 149.00 on algores internet, put the new
keypad in service, type in your combination, then change out the lock body and throw the old parts away.
I have used this technique many times, successfully, throw the old parts away......
Will all Sg6120 keypads interchange with each other i would like to change to the top lighted Sg6120 keypad?Thanks
no they do not
All 6120 S&G Keypads have the same connection you would just have to use the plastic housing that matches the one you want to use
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I changed my code and then went to put it in again and I am locked out. What do i do?
There are some tools you can buy online to defeat these type of locks, but they're pretty pricey. Probably should just call a pro.
Is the door open? Try the old combination.
@@michaelallen3405 I actually got very lucky and didnt set the new password properly but I had closed the door. The old code was still working. I changed it properly, with the door open this time lol.
Sir I have question please help me because my atm won't open either I have the right key sir what is the possible reason thank you
Sounds like a job for a professional ;-)
Did you ever get it open? My genmega won’t unlock vault after a bill jam. I don’t know what to do
Duracell
I know that's the default answer from the safe manufacturers, etc., but it's a silly and illogical assertion. Voltage is voltage and amps are amps regardless of the label or brand name. Duracells are great if you like batteries that are almost guaranteed to leak and potentially ruin your device.
I changed the battery and now my combination doesn't work! Please advise
:-( ...Wish I could help.
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