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Here’s another problem with the gas/ethanol fuel: the ethanol when left in contact with aluminum or pot metal ( the material used in small engine carbs) will corrode and weaken the metal. In a vehicle… you also get lower gas mileage. Best to use in Non-Ethanol gas in any small gas engine. Up here to the north of NYC, Non-Ethanol is getting to point were It might be cheaper to pave my lawn and paint it green than to mow it! Today’s scientific testing was great! Keep up the good work!
That’s a great point.
N what do you use when u can't get any gasoline?
I believe any car made after 84, was supposed to be able to run off alcohol, don't hold me to it! Infact 80 to 90% fuel stations in Brazil are using ethanol 90%, n told the big 3 to have there vehicles to be sold in Brazil converted to run on alcohol!
Tip: If you get gas from a hose that supplies a choice of gas, select the alcohol free, but first pump some into your vehicle to empty the hose of the other gas, then fill your jugs for your small engines.
I have been using ethanol free gas in my atvs and lawn equipment for at least 10 years without a carb problem. And, as mike said, I don't have to drain the equipment and it starts first pull next season. As far as cooking over the fire: I learned to cook on the fire when I was a kid in Boy Scouts. That said, I really learned to cook well over the fire when I started dating my wife (over 40 years ago), and her dad said...kid, come here, I am gonna teach you to cook steaks over the fire. I listened, and did as he said, and I became the new cook (LOL, I think he scammed me so he didn't have to cook). Over time, I experimented with different woods. I found that a good dry beach wood tasted about the best. In NEPA, where I was cooking, beach trees are abundant. I have also cooked the steaks on cherry, with good results. Just nothing like a steak that was cooked on a fire...forget the gas grill!! Thanks as always for your content. You have really been mixing it up lately. 👍
I still like my hickory for grillin'. I don't have access to beach wood or some other kinds so I understand that the wood used tends to be regional in preference. Anyway, grillin' (anything) saves heating up the kitchen ! Here in Ga, temps suppose to be hitting 104, very unusual for us. Prayin' for those that have it worse.
@@bennym1956 Hickory is definitely good! There isn't any hickory growing near my property. I have a Trager smoker that I use hickory in.
PA is one of 7 states that has an ethanol blend mandate, and is likely the reason for the high ethanol-free price. I'm assuming the refiners or sellers pay a penalty for selling it.
The ethanol mandate is basically just a handout to corn farmers (where most ethanol comes from), and was implemented under the guise of being environmentally friendly, when in fact it is slightly worse than pure gasoline.
A govt induced Ponzi scheme if there ever was one. Just a bunch of damn crooks ripping off the American public any way they can.
Just look at all the Plandemics hitting us all at once!! Govt is stupider than a kindergartener much less a 5th grader. Time for a Theocracy. No one mere man can solve all these problems hitting us
now.
If you live in PA like the Morgan's and myself you have to pay for the legislators that occupy our state! I travel the east coast several time a year and PA citizens pay quite a bit more for gas ⛽️ than the states south of us! Taxation without representation definitely applies to our state!
@@johnshuler1396 Sounds like you need to put in New legislators and new, more fair laws. Your inference is that there's lots of corruption in PA is what I surmise.
@@johnshuler1396 lol your state taxes are controlled by your state legislature, which you elect... So you have representation...
@@davidd34 Yes I imagine so!
I ferry commuter size business jets from the factory to their new owners around the country. Jet A is the first fuel refined from crude oil. This time last year a gallon of Jet A averaged $1.89 per gallon. Today depending on what part of the country it averages $ 6.89 per gallon. Most flights require 4725 lbs (700 gallons). It adds up and commercial flights continue to go up in price and the get substantial discounts due to the amounts they are using. Great videos. Thanks for sharing.
I used to work for an engine company. One thing that I learned in dealing with the EPA and CARB is that there are over three dozen gasoline blends in the USA. The differences vary based not only on ethanol content but also small additives that are blended in to meet EPA or CARB emission requirements for different regions to meet their air quality standards. These custom blends and the demand for fuel in a particular region can cause supply and demand price increases. This is in addition to state and local taxes on gasoline and the taxes and regulatory burden on local refineries. So, in general, states with higher taxes (beyond the tax directly on fuel) and greater regulatory costs will have higher gasoline prices as the cost of doing business in those states is higher. PA is one of those states. But, at least you don't live in CA.
Don't get me started with the EPA . My family were independent wholesale gasoline distributors from 1967 to 2000 . They put our family out of business with their over regulations starting in the 80s and 90s .
I put cheap shut offs on everything that is big enough to fit one. That works fine for me.
That’s wild. I had no idea!
@@drizler that’s a good idea.
I too, am all for ethanol free gas! Another potential source of ethanol free gas would be at a marina, since there is good possibility of getting water in a boat tank, and when alcohol is in the gas, you can't easily drain it out. My favorite source is to use 100-110LL Avgas. No ethanol ever, it does not varnish or go stale, and it contains a low level of tetraethyl lead. Don't use it in any engine with a catalytic converter however. I've been using it for years in all of my small engines, and was able to start easily every season. In truth, Briggs and Stratton uses 100LL for on-line tests, as any residual in the line or carb evaporates clean, meeting the ICC requirement of not shipping with gas or oil in the engines. Racing gas is another possible fuel source, typically 120 octane and contains lead. Avgas and Marine gas have a decidedly blue color, and a decidedly different odor from pump gas.
I first learned about ethanol free in small engines when every year my snowblower would conk out several times during use. It would start right back up but happened multiple times in a 45 minute session. The thought occurred to me to see what ethanol free would do. It hasn’t stalled since & that was three winters ago
Mike another issue with gas/ethanol. I bought a new lawn mower, used it that mowing season using "normal" gas/ethanol, put the mower up for the winter, it would not start in the spring even with new gas. Carb cleaning overhaul $96.00. Used it all mowing season again, same results next spring $96.00. Mechanic had me touch the inside of the carb and put my fingers together; they were semi glued together. He then recommended ethanol free gas. It is all that I used from then on and 4 to 5 years later it still started at least on the second pull
I bought a new Crapsman lawn (Briggs) mower and put gas in it and started right up and cut some grass and 2 weeks later it never started again and the same with other Briggs motor tools and all weed wackers do the same. So far all my Kohler and Honda motors are still running. I have a old 70,s troy built tiller with a 7hp Kohler that never dies even with eth.
Some of you may find this helpful. I also like using ethanol free gas in my small engines but it is expensive as you all probably know. However, you can actually make your own ethanol free gas at home and it is not difficult and it doesn’t take very long either. As crazy as it sounds, all you have to do is mix the gas with some water. The water actually bonds to the ethanol in the gas and the water and ethanol settles to the bottom of the container. It is a very clear and visible line where the pure gas is separated from the ethanol/water mixture. Then all you have to do is siphon the gas off the top of the ethanol or siphon the ethanol out from underneath the gas. I did it in small batches in a one gallon water jug and filled about the bottom 1 1/2 inches with water and the rest with gas and it worked great. However, you could scale it to a larger quantity in an IBC tote or something. You have to leave it sit for a an hour or so for the water and ethanol to separate from the gas. Anyways, thought it may be helpful for some people to know. And yes I did test it in my own equipment and it ran totally fine no issues whatsoever.
I had a friend who's truck started running bad, mileage sucked and it wanted to stall. He decided to check for water and siphoned some gas out of his tank, he didn't have water but did have a large amount if alcohol, 47% once he ran the numbers. Turns out the the delivery truck had dumped 5,000 gallons of E-85 into the regular tank. Anyone who complained they gave them their money back. If they didn't complain they didn't say anything. I didn't use that stations gas so I wasn't affected, I checked my tank to be sure and had 8% alcohol. I use rec gas for my yard equipment when I can find it and have 5 gallons of trufuel for emergency use ( it's good for up to 5 years unopened and 2 years opened ).
Our rec gas is $1.50 more than regular ( 91 octane and Michigan ) and last I checked We were 2nd highest gas taxes. I only have 2 stations within 50 miles that has rec gas besides marina's in the area which overcharge by $2.00- $4.50 more per gallon.
For those who have forgotten High School science, water bonds with alcohol. That’s why the level of the ‘water’ went up when Mike mixed the the 10% Ethanol blend. In the Ethanol free there was no alcohol to bond with the water, therefore the water level remained the same.
Could you just add water to the ethanol blend gas and then drain the water and ethanol out of the can from the bottom?
@@JR-pu8uo yes and some people will do that(with either homemade kits or commercialy available ones) to get e-free gas but it is a hassle and most important, the octane level will decrease. So now you will need to add an octane booster to bring that back up.
Hi Mike, gasoline prices certainly are ridiculous for sure. I have used ethanol gas in everything I have and never had a problem in any of my engines big or small. We had a small fleet of 55 vehicles with the exception of a couple of diesel engines and we used ethanol in them and never had a problem. I have been retired for 11 years (now 72 years old) and they still use ethanol gas in everything that uses gasoline with no problems. I use it in my Skag Turf Tiger zero turn mower, my Polaris ranger 500 a 2002 model that I bought new, my Polaris Ranger 2018 bought new in 2018, my Stihl weedeater, my Echo chainsaw, and my Stihl pole saw, and probably some other things I forgot to list. Back when I first heard of ethanol I didn't use it in my older cars but now I put it in everything. I know you mentioned that if an engine is used often there probably wouldn't be a problem but just thought I would mention that here in Iowa most people use ethanol blend basically I think because it is much cheaper than other gas. Just sayin! Keep up your videos and really like the different subjects you show us. Thanks again!!!
I live at the very bottom of Fayette County on the Preston County border near Bruceton. I don’t buy fuel in Pa unless it’s an absolute emergency. Up until recently we bought mainly in Garrett County Md but lately WV, especially in Morgantown has been the lowest. I’m in all three states all the time so I seldom contribute to the ridiculously high gasoline tax of our home state of Pa. Thanks for the tip, I’ll be hitting that station up with cans next time we go to Morgantown. As a snowmobiler I always look for ethanol free and it’s usually more expensive that ethanol blended, can’t figure out why it’s cheaper but not gonna argue. Welcome to the area, don’t know where you are in Terra Alta but maybe will unknowingly pass your place this winter on snowmobiles. And yes, Preston county is great with side by sides. Something else I almost exclusively do in WV, It’s not illegal to enjoy yourself there
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The containers you used in the experiment are called "graduated cylinders" there are 29.6 millilitres in one fluid ounce. A beaker is a cylindrical container too but it is short, kind of like a water glass and has a little spout to facilitate pouring. It too may have graduation marks, but do not allow for precise measurements of volume like the graduated cylinders do. The volume measured in beakers is only approximate. You can also determine the amount of ethanol in the gas using a similar technique that you used but you have to restrict the amount of water added. Maybe that would be a good topic for a future video. The good thing that ethanol does is prevent fuel line freeze up in cold environments and allows for evacuation of water build up in gas tanks accumulated by condensation or other sources.
Good afternoon David ! 😸😺 the rain is coming down hard !!! here in Montreal just now 😧
Nicely explained
Good answer. In addition, when reading the volume in the graduated cylinder, the correct way is to read the bottom of the curved surface.
@@mikewatson4644 Yes, AKA "meniscus" , a phenomenon that results from the surface tension developed by the water molecule. The water actually tries to climb up the sides of the cylinder. This is also what causes capillary action and allows water to climb up to the top of trees to hydrate wood cells. Cool thing, that water molecule. If you are looking at other liquids, the meniscus may not be so evident as not all molecules develop that much surface tension.
@@johnsadler8637 Thanks John, what's the weather like in the "Show Me" state?
Thanks, Mike! Really interesting experiment. I've seen the same results with non-E gas that you have. Won't run anything else in our many small engines.
Tried separating the ethanol from "regular" a few years back using water, but it was a pain to do well on a small scale.
Thanks again! Wish I were closer to the PA southern border, I'd head to WV. (I'm not too far from its northern one).
Re fire starting: a handful of Birch bark works as well as those waxed wood chips, and costs nothing. I use it all the time.
Ethanol is hygroscopic, meaning it bonds to water molecules. This is why gasoline anti-freeze is frequently used in the winter, to remove moisture from the system. The issue with small engines is that of the carburetor bodies are mostly are made from a cast zinc tin alloy and reacts with water to form an oxide (rust) slowly restricting the air fuel mixture.
The wetted parts inside the carburetor begin to form gums, varnish and oxides which slowly close off the small passages inside.
Most Southern States co-ops that sell farm equipment and feed also sell ethanol free fuel. I have a gas station chain (Royal) that sells two different grades of ethanol free gasoline. Some small airports will sell you 100LL aviation fuel that is ethanol free. Frozen fuel systems on small aircraft is a huge issue.
West Virginia normally has as high or higher motor fuel taxes as Pennsylvania. They (WV) may tax off-road fuel different than Pennsylvania or possibly a tax holiday. Anyhow, a $2.00 a gallon savings is a good thing.
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Good afternoon Bill and David 😸😸
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Great vid buddy! I've been thinking of doing something similar to this on my channel! Be safe out there...stay cool!! Josh
60 degrees here now!
Same here I only use Non E. for all my small engin stuff or boating. If at the beginning or end of season I'll add a little Startron fuel treatment to my cans so all my equipment gets treated gas for better storage and to help clean any gunk out of the carbs etc. My buddy at a small engin shop turned me in to it it's better than seafoam in my experience. Of it will run even just barely dump tge tank and fill it up with startron treated Non E and it will likely be purring like a kitten in no time. I usually use the start it let it run 5 min. Then let it sit 30 to 60 min or longer repeat a few times and most minor issues are resolved without wrenching anything.
Hi Mike, just fyi those are graduate cylinders from chemistry, not beakers. Beakers are short larger opening on the top with side markings like the ball canning jars but usually put them on burner in the lab. BTW Love the channel
Graduated, not graduate.
there are many forms of beakers depending on the application. But what what mike was using was a graduate cylinder
Nice Job With The Science Experiment! Mike 😊
The Steaks Sounds Delicious Over The Open Fire!! Making Me Hungry!!
Hi There Melissa!
Keep Smiling On!!
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Maybe West Virginian is selling the ethanol free gas minus the road taxes to be used for off-road use the same as we have farm use fuels in Washington where there is no road tax? Just a guess.
Pump said “Recreational use only” which should be fine as long as it’s not used in a highway vehicle. We have “Agricultural Diesel” for use on farm vehicles, no road use tax. I have never seen gasoline like that around here.
There should be more stations selling Ethanol free fuel at or near par. Up here, north of the border we have ethanol free at Petro Can, ESSO and Shell, plus all premium (first gallon (3-4 litres) is usually what the previous purchaser bought) so put that in your car!
There are also filters that can filter out ethanol, but you can do that without the filter with that water trick, just pump the upper layer and that is ethanol free too.
For winter storage, I prefer using canned gas, especially for trimmers, blowers, and chain saws. As that gas is parafin family of chemicals only without the cheaper and unstable benzene family of chemicals.
the price of his fuel might be cheap because he is buying short loads. when a tanker cant off load everything he has at a station, he has to find another buyer and usually sells it a a discount so he doesn't have to return with it. most of the stations doing this are not graded stations, i.e. BP, chevron, etc. so they are not under contract.
Good afternoon all! Funny thing about E-free gas in Mo at least is it has to be above a specified octane rating, I think maybe 92. Which effectively puts it in the highest grade, and thus is the highest priced gas sold. I’m not entirely sure about the politics behind that rule, but it’s been a dollar higher than the standard regular gas when I’ve bought it.
Interesting use of the fact that ethanol is soluble in water but gasoline is not. I haven’t seen that done before. We had a bad batch of E-free gas from a discount place here that had a lot of water in it. I discovered that when I finished off a gas can and the mower died about 30 seconds after I started. Now I pour carefully until I have a quart or so left in the can, and that last I put in an old ice cream container, let it settle, then decant off the gas until the water at the bottom starts to move. Not gonna run that water through the carburetor if I can help it!
The water absorption properties are what cause corrosion in carburetors, but just like the pouring spouts on the gas cans...govt. mandates.
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Good afternoon John 😸
Hey Mike that was very interesting. I’ve always used ethanol free gasoline in my atv’s, chain saws,mowers, and my cars except for my corvette and I use premium in it. My truck I use diesel and my farm equipment I use off road diesel. But now it’s all gotten so expensive. Thanks 👍👍👍❤️
I’m in New Jersey can’t find any ethanol free gas . I buy 93 octane add water and red food dye mix let sit for 24 hr for max ethanol water and gas separation. I mix it in a 5 gallon plastic carboy with a valve after separation you clearly see the demarcation between the pure gas and the ethanol water mix . You turn on the valve and run out the waste ethanol water mixture your left with pure gas. A couple of tips I do this in my shed with both doors open and no fire or flame anywhere near me. I use distilled water to not introduce any possible contaminates . When I decant the pure gas I use a plastic container hold it up to the light confirm there is no water/ethanol then pour it in my gas container . I use 93 octane because upon removing the alcohol your also decreasing the octane rating ethanol slows the rate of combustion so does iso- octane which blocks pre ignition and prevents engine knock.
We use to go to Morgantown when I was young with my dad. Beautiful town and I love the mountains. I remember Bigsavage which I think was the highest peak .
Cotton balls and vasoline works for fire-starters too.
Ethanol gas will also pull moisture to the fuel system
Hello M&M. Not been on your channel for ages, but nice to see that things are great with you. Don't get too hung up on the mL (metric) thing. Ethanol mixes with petrol (gas), ethanol mixes with water, but petrol doesn't mix with water as I'm sure you know. So, if there's ethanol in fuel when you add the water to the fuel it pulls the ethanol into the water content. Your test was 100%. Oh and they are 'measuring cylinders'. Cheers!
Good day everyone!🎉
I might add a couple of points. Ethanol attracts water vapor into a gasoline tank and can freeze during winter in the fuel line in your car. Also, the paraffin wax in your wood chips is derived from petroleum. Bees could not keep up the demand for wax/paraffin needed in the world.
Vaseline in a cotton ball does the same thing when starting a fire. If your a camper, do a few cotton/ vaseline balls, put them in a old pill bottle and take them a long. Easy Peasy.
Good information Mike on why I use ethanol free gas in my small engines, I never knew why until you just shared that information. I was just told from many years ago that I must and never questioned it. I acctually have made my own fire starter using my chain saw chip and parafin wax molded in eggg cartons, works well. Great video!!
💥 WHAT? More metric system stuff! Mike I know you realize every single bolt on all that Kubota equipment is metric. I wish the US would fully adopt the metric system. 😳 Hope we can still be friends. 😂
*Keep on tractoring!*
My wife and I just went out west and visited my daughter in Oregon. We hit a lot of the national parks on the way. The cheapest gas we found was $3.99 in Wyoming, the most expensive was $6.21 in California. Most states had blends of ethanol and non-ethanol gas. Some states advertised a fake price of about $0.20 cents cheaper gas, but when you pulled up to the pump, turns out it was the cheap 85 Octane gas. As far as I know, most cars and trucks take at least 87 Octane gas. 87 gas was much more expensive. South Dakota and Wyoming gas was the best, some stations did not even offer a ethanol blend.
Crazy. Caveat emptor.
Well if your vehicle is multi-fuel then E85 suppose to run your motor cooler in return a little more hp.
You can run lower octane gas at higher altitudes
A friend of mine who run a dairy farm in the VT. Uses aviation gasoline.. For small engine... A big difference in the Winter time. Engines not sputtering. No broken robe..
You are right on the money Mike Do not use ethanol fuel in small power equipment especially in chainsaws and weedeater or anything with mixed fuel
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I use 87 in my chainsaws and i work 40+ hrs/week without any problems, i use it in all my equipments, atv, snowblower, weedeater, skidoo,generator, ect
I found a station a few years ago that had straight gas and put it in my 1998 S-10 and went from 16-18 mpg to 23-24 mpg. The sad part is ethanol is almost half the price of regular gas and was added to reduce the cost of gas but prices are now climbing do to greed of distilling corn. ethanol to buy is now $2.15 a gallon and it was less then $1.00 just a couple years ago.
Offroad diesel has no tax here in Pennsylvania and I'm wondering why non-ethanol gas is taxed because we all use that just for our small engines...
Great informational video. Thank you. Love that smile young lady keep it going. God bless you and your family sir.
Thanks for announcing the HUGE savings. Now our price will go up!
Ethanol has been one of the biggest scams perpetrated on the US population starting with "summer" blends and "winter" blends in CA.......I've tracked my mileage since the '60's and as soon as these different "blends" started I saw that it was costing us money........soon the problems with older vehicles started to show up with damaged fuel systems.......the EPA has been pushing for 15% Ethanol for several years now which will destroy small engines like agriculture equipment, motorcycles of all type and most marine systems......fortunately there is kickback from several groups to fight it.
With the decision from SCOTUS the other day that the EPA has over stepped it's authority as a , it's a possibility that the days of Ethanol may be numbered.....of course the EPA will do everything it can to hold on to it's power.......
I’ll be headed back to Ohio next week from the beach. Since, I’ll be traveling through WV on the way home, I need to fill up a can of the E-free. 😉 My wife will ask, “You are doing what?”. Great video, Mike!
Thanks for the interesting video Mike and Melissa. It pays to use the Ethanol FREE fuel in your saws and power equipment and farm equipment for sure. Stay safe around there and keep up the great videos. Fred.
I have not used 1 piece of kindling wood to start my fireplace in over 20 years.
My fire starters are made from paper egg cartons dryer lint or cotton balls with melted wax poured on the cotton cut the egg cartons apart almost always only need 2.
1.00 goes to the fish commission for use in boats
Hey Mike,
Glad to see everything is going well for the Morgan's.
I like you use off road diesel and gas.
Then you brought up the price differences between the hillbilly and the flat hat state. Which reminded me why I sold my farm outside of Gburg. I've been gone from Pennsylvania for two years now and have saved $ 20,000 in property taxes alone. But I do miss not being able to visit my wife's grave in Gettysburg.
Frederick,
Sorry about you losing your Sweetheart, I know exactly how you feel Sir!
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Thanks from the other Fred😊
If you take your wax coated wood chips and compress it you get one of those fire logs like "Duraflame" which is just sawdust and paraffins (candle wax) molded to look like a log. Maybe a little more in the log per unit of wood than your chips but the principal is the same. You could use one of those logs and break it into small clumps and use that to start you fire.
Ethinol free is 45 cents more per gallon here in South Dakota but for mowers ,chain saws. Weed eater etc ill pay the difference. 5.15 a gallon 3 days ago.
Here in Hobbs NM, our local fuel and lubricants supplier is the only place to buy ethanol free gas within 100 miles and he prices it based on what he pays for that particular load. It's only 87 octane but we're at about 3,900 ft and it's usually around the same price as mid grade e-10 at the pump. So, as gas prices were skyrocketing, there were times when it was over 1$ a gallon cheaper than regular at the pump!
It is the same here in Ky. I only know of one place now that sells it. Gas with ethanol is about $4.79 and without is $5.79.
Awesome video
You’re very fortunate to have access to medium octane (and lower cost) non-ethanol gasoline. In Canada, the only ethanol-free gas is premium grade, so in order to avoid ethanol in all my small engine products, I have to pay the crazy up-charge for premium fuel.
Unless there was an edit I missed you said you were comparing non eth 90 to 89 10% eth. I'm pretty sure you hit the 87 octane selector and it might not even make a difference in the results but just thought that was what I observed
Good afternoon from a very hot and humid Gulf coast ! The fire pit and grill cooking over hardwood ,you can't beat it !
The price difference is primarily the retailer. A retailer can buy Premium E10 and E0 for roughly the same price, or 10 cents more for E0 if the terminal is passing on the RIN value for E10. They know they will sell roughly the same amount if priced either 50 cents or $1.50 over Regular. Most E0 (no ethanol) is just the Premium Blendstock for Oxygenate Blending (BOB) with no ethanol or if E0 is marked 87 octane, a blend of roughly 50/50 of Premium & Regular BOB.
Video is good but I would disagree with ethanol damaging seals, hoses, and gaskets. A Chevron representative balloted this warning for gasoline at ASTM but then later denied he wrote it. Moving to E10 allowed the oil refineries to create more variation. If you want to see variation of gasoline, buying premium fuel is rolling a dice. Yes, ethanol can attract water and why good gasoline container and more education is needed but most damage is still due to gasoline.
• Variability in gasoline and gasoline-oxygenate blends composition, particularly aromatics content, may result in materials incompatibility problems. Some types of elastomers and plastics used to make gaskets and seals may swell with higher concentrations of aromatics in fuel and then shrink with very low concentrations of aromatics, which may result in a compromised ability to seal.
Graduated cylinders are much more accurate than beakers. Good choice for glassware.
Clever experiment.
Where I am in CT, the only unleaded non-ethanol gas available is sold in a 5 gallon can for $70, 94 octane...yes $14/gal. I use Cam 2 racing gas ($10/gal.) in my small 2 stroke engines, blowers, weed eaters, chain saws. it's non-ethanol, 110 octane but is leaded. Wish I had a station like yours nearby. I add Startron + Sta-Bil also.
We used to use the "olive jar" test which is the same principle you demonstrated with fuel for our ultralight back in the 90s. Rotax carb boots and fuel lines deteriorated quick with ethanol back then. We had an off field landing in Lake City FL at Sun n Fun due to a light engine seizure in a CGS Hawk.
Also ethanol draws moisture and rots any floats etc that are made out of brass !
Interesting shows also how ethanol settles to the bottom of your tank and carburetor bowel.
Great video Mike and Melissa 🇺🇲
Wax coated wood chips? I must have missed that video. They seem to work great. Thanks for the content 👍
HELLOOOO everyone out there in OWTM land…. Hoping everyone is doing well….so I was sitting in BWI airport waiting for my connecting flight when this video popped up. Finally finished watching . Thanks professor Mike for the lesson. Pretty cool to know.
Now if you can just tell
Us where to buy those wax coated wood chips!! 😁😁😁
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Interesting experiment Mike, and your explanation was spot on and easy to follow. I worked in two different Air Force base's fuel labs for about 6 years out of 21, and we ran a whole bunch of tests on fuel and refueling equipment daily, to ensure quality while receiving and all equipment used to dispense it. My take on fuel prices and the extreme differences across the country and even across some cities is mainly due to greed, what a market will bear, and how deep a local gas station or government and the federal government can stick their hands into our pockets. Everything is becoming more expensive, because I believe more and more companies and local governments are testing the waters to see how much more of what we've earned they can get. Have a Day y'all!
Mike, I use a Harbor Freight propane weed burner to light my fire pit and smoker. Works great, fire going in no time and it sounds like a jet taking off….lol
I run rec gas in all my small engines as well. Some people call it boat gas. I live in central WV & normally the gas stations around me price the rec gas about the same price as diesel. Happy to have you in our state, your presence is definitely an asset.
Montani Semper Liberi!!
Contrary to popular (everyone's) BELIEF, OCTANE has nothing to do with energy release, or in terms for the believers, higher octane has nothing to do with POWER.
An octane rating, or octane number, is a standard measure of a fuel's ability to withstand compression in an internal combustion engine without detonating. The higher the octane number, the more compression the fuel can withstand before detonating.
My family was in the oil business from 1967 to 2000 . We were independent wholesale gasoline distributors to as many as 100 stores . I can only imagine the amount of capitol necessary to keep the inventory we kept back in the day .
Wow, you were about 15 minutes from my place when you were at the gas station. I shop at the Menards near there all the time. Maybe I'll see you there one day.
First tank and the last tank of the season use ethanol free the and in between use whatever is cheapest. A Stihl dealer said it will not hurt it.
I separate the ethanol from the gas, it is easy, put some food coloring in the water, then it is easy to see the border line.
Graduated cylinders, are what those are.
Your alcohol content in the blend was 6.67%, which is below the 10% limit.
Since the ethanol is less calorie dense than gasoline your hours/mileage would be reduced by about 4%. The government subsidizing while also mandating the blend is a "hidden" cost that gets passed on to the consumer.
Much of the additional price of the non-blended is due to transportation, separately from the blends, and it being non-subsidized & non-diluted.
Good hot and humid afternoon from Upstate South Carolina. Great demonstration. Have a productive day.
"Maybe move the gas cans away from the fire." Good tip :)
Melissa, "Looks like an episode of Breaking Bad" Hahahaaaa!
Speaking of Melissa, I just received my OWTM camo hat, along with a decal and handwritten note. THANK YOU! This was a surprise gift, from my wife, for Father's Day.
I know this was not related to this video, but I just had to thank you!
Nice job professor Mike 😉, you actually showed the biggest reason to avoid ethanol gas in small engines, even a small amount of water in your gas tank will separate the ethanol from the gas. Which means at some point, you are going to be running pure ethanol occasionally through your engine, which can really lead to problems.
Hope the steaks were delicious 👍👍
I started using ethanol-free gas in all my small engines about ten years ago. Since then I have not had a problem with any of my equipment. My mower and trimmer sit in the garage all winter. In the spring, I check fluid levels and fire them up. No issues. A couple of extra pulls on first start for the year.
Mike, you look good , demonstrating at the patio table....of course you just grabbed that glassware out of the kitchen cupboard from a set of them that Melissa has laying around, right ?(sardonic smirk).
Those wax coated wood chips look very impressive. You could start selling those too with the wood mill sawdust.
when a fuel tank has water or moister in it and ethanol blended fuel is added to that tank it causes phase separation which turns the blended fuel into what would be the equivalent of brine causing the engine not to run, and a rebuild of that engine is required. The ethanol has alcohol in it which suspends the water up into the fuel causing it to mix. with non ethanol fuel the fuel floats on the water and as long as your fuel pick up is high enough you won't have a problem.
Propane match is ALWAYS good
Thank you for the video.
My neighbor works for Chevron refinery here in salt lake Utah I was asking him which gas is the best He told me that Chevron is But he also told me that regular and medium is the same gas tank in the ground So if you're buying gas at the medium pump just buy it at the The regular pump It says if you ask the gas station how many tanks do they have underground she says most of them tell you only 3 . Diesel fuel, Premium gas, And Medium gas.
Dang, i pass that exit alot.. tyvm
There's 1 Store I know of that don't have any ethanol traces in it near me and it's in VA and they own their own refinery so the don't have to remove it when they make it
We use 87 ethanol in our 2 and 4 cvcle small gas engines.we treat every 5 gallon can with stabil. We enjoy first pull start ups and no carb clean ups,rebuilds. Works for us
I agree with you . Not using it in small engines. It works good in cars and trucks . I am a farmer and use it. I have a pickup that will burn e-85 . It’s cheaper but won’t get as much mpg. But is a lot cheaper. Gas would be a ton higher with out adding ethanol as you see at the pump........
I work 40hrs/week with my chainsaws and i put 87 without any problems
WV doesn't have road taxes on their gas like we do here in PA. Ands that's why I go to Morgantown to fill up all the time 😄 was that the exxon next to the bass pro shop?
When using ethanol in your off rd stuff add some two stroke oil in it it helps a ton
Wow. Thanks
looks good to me...the worst part is that were paying this high price for cheap gas,,not compaired to back then...when the octane was a lot higher...its over 5 bucks a gal here in Wheeling,,,but you go 20 miles south,,its cheaper,,any service station on I-70,,through ohio county,,they are all the same price,,its so sad,they give nothing back to the local area...they got it all in hand,,,to rip everyone off...most are all company owned now,,,if you really think about it,,there doing this to us at all levels..ins,,food,wood,,its like when you walk in a store,,the prices just went up...haaa,,you cant win..im just a middle class poor man....i save everything,,the way i was brought up..
It's the same in Michigan Rec fuel is a lot more than regular.
MIke, you are totally correct, to much ethanol is bad for your Truck engine as well. Ethanol is very corrosive, you just gave some good advice. This from a ex mechanic.
I use an empty olive jar and put black electrical to mark the water line then add the fuel. If there is a higher water there is ethanol in the gas.
Watch carrying across state lines Green Co has a state pokey right outside Waynesburg..