Luffy Is Overpowered: Understanding Luffy's Path To Becoming The Strongest | One Piece Discussion

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    Luffy has been put to the test by many powerful people throughout the story. Crocodile, Doflamingo, Rob Lucci, Katakuri, the list goes on. Even though Luffy has been on the BRINK many times... is it possible that he can be seen as "Overpowered"? This video is my attempt to answering that question.
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  • @mrtoxicrain8772
    @mrtoxicrain8772 Před 4 lety +1208

    I mean for his age, he IS crazy

    • @notthechosenjuan2413
      @notthechosenjuan2413 Před 4 lety +136

      I know, that's why Luffy is stronger than the veteran Katakuri in my eyes since Luffy power is just absurd for a 19 year old.

    • @rhhfhfsajajaa4294
      @rhhfhfsajajaa4294 Před 4 lety +34

      @@notthechosenjuan2413 Hes only stronger than katakuri because of his age? I might be misunderstanding but age shouldn't play a part in the argument of whose stronger

    • @schnozchan6606
      @schnozchan6606 Před 4 lety +115

      He's not even close to his prime and he's already defeated CP9 agents, Shichibukai and Yonko Commanders. By EOS he has surpassed Yonko decades before he even reaches his prime. I could see Prime Luffy being country-level DC, the way things are headed.

    • @shockzz1234
      @shockzz1234 Před 4 lety +73

      Tbf so were the current top tiers. Big Mom killed one of the leaders of the giants at around 5 years old. She probably had a similar trajectory to what Luffy is having now to become a Yonko. Shanks, Kaido, Whitebeard etc all probably had similar trajectories as well. Luffy will surpass them all eventually of course, and he's still OP when compared to those of a similar age to him, but i don't think he's OP by the standards of the One Piece world, he's just followng that same trajectory. The problem with Luffy's power imo isn't Luffy himself, it's that Oda hasn't made anyone else in his age group just as strong. Linlin and Kaido, for example, were part of the same generation. Luffy doesn't have anyone like that. It would make Luffy feel a lot less OP if there were at least one other person on his tier from his gen.

    • @kambuchanan9876
      @kambuchanan9876 Před 4 lety +5

      "Hey can I copy your homework?"
      "Yeah just change it so it doesn't look the same"
      "Ok"

  • @evolvo1
    @evolvo1 Před 4 lety +881

    Luffy has an “X” on his chest just like a treasure map. I feel stupid for just now noticing this...

    • @MochaPhilanthropist
      @MochaPhilanthropist Před 4 lety +124

      Omg I think u have found the One piece..... some body call the sergeant of death

    • @jev1620
      @jev1620 Před 4 lety +8

      Your called thinking man and only now you realized that? You should uh changed that name bud everyone has noticed that the moment post skip luffy was revealed lmao

    • @Crobin008
      @Crobin008 Před 4 lety +1

      Looks more like the Kazuya Mishma "ya daddy don't love you "mark to me

    • @Maelstromaku
      @Maelstromaku Před 4 lety +4

      Knowing oda this very well might be a clue

    • @jasonsumair9725
      @jasonsumair9725 Před 4 lety

      Drake do

  • @furioni333
    @furioni333 Před 4 lety +759

    KOL fought big mom in his youth - who won tho? We gotta wait for the flashback.

    • @abdtmran
      @abdtmran Před 4 lety +65

      I don't know why this scenario reminds me of Kaidou vs Moria😂😂

    • @liljace1721
      @liljace1721 Před 4 lety

      Gunbeard_Samurai 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @liljace1721
      @liljace1721 Před 4 lety +8

      That’s a high def fight lol

    • @kryptonight63
      @kryptonight63 Před 4 lety +24

      If it was young Big Mom though then I wonder what kind of "fighting" they were doing 😏

    • @KingOfLightning
      @KingOfLightning  Před 4 lety +116

      Gunbeard_Samurai it’s like Akainu Vs Aokiji, you’ll get it 10 years from now.

  • @KingShadowOmega
    @KingShadowOmega Před 4 lety +435

    I have to make a correction King. Zoro in Punk Hazard telling Luffy to be serious is not solely because of Luffy. He says it because he himself also lost to the Yeti Cool Bros. It was as much a scolding to himself as it was to Luffy.

    • @melodyw.7196
      @melodyw.7196 Před 4 lety +17

      Lol I always thought he said that because Luffy was doing that silly ass Gum Gum UFO in the SAD lab. You’re likely right tho.

    • @boogie1434
      @boogie1434 Před 4 lety +35

      Flatulence The Unending nah that’s not what happened, zoro was talking about the crew including himself before he said anything to Luffy plus in the same scene Sanji said he’s just being hard on himself

    • @KingOfLightning
      @KingOfLightning  Před 4 lety +26

      Lee Tsabiras true

    • @Doctor_Kroom
      @Doctor_Kroom Před 4 lety +4

      @@melodyw.7196 Luffy did gum gum ufo AFTER zoro's statement.

    • @Shark-hn4mv
      @Shark-hn4mv Před 4 lety +5

      Zoro didn't "lose." His speech was SPECIFICALLY about how he and Luffy let their guard down during Punk Hazard, letting their enemies catch them off-guard. No way Luffy or Zoro would've been knocked out if they weren't being careless. That's the point he was making.

  • @kambuchanan9876
    @kambuchanan9876 Před 4 lety +525

    He is he's only 19 😭😭😭

    • @MelvinBattle
      @MelvinBattle Před 4 lety +105

      And how long has it been since he left his village. Yeah, he's super overpowered.

    • @phothewin6019
      @phothewin6019 Před 4 lety +33

      He fucking BOOMED Katakuri.

    • @shockzz1234
      @shockzz1234 Před 4 lety +49

      Luffy is pretty young, but don't forget about what Linlin, a top tier of the OP world, did at 5. She legit killed a giant. Not just any giant, but one of their leaders and assumingly one of their strongest. None of them could stop her rampage on Elbaf. At age 5. Or thereabouts anyway, she was a kid is my point. I'm sure other top tiers like Kaido, Shanks etc. have similar feats. So Luffy is just kinda following in their footsteps by being a monster at a young age. He's OP when compared to his age grup, but not when it comes to the whole world of OP (at least, not yet anyways, that'll change when we reach the end but still).

    • @Theemptythroneistaken
      @Theemptythroneistaken Před 4 lety +54

      shockzz1234 The giants tbh are pretty mediocre! Most giants in the story right now are jobbers.

    • @Babylauncher3000
      @Babylauncher3000 Před 4 lety +6

      He’s 20 for all intents and purposes.

  • @xettexotics1301
    @xettexotics1301 Před 4 lety +321

    LUFFY'S ABILITY IS RUBBER RIGHT? MAYBE BEING ABLE TO ADAPT OR ADJUST IN ANY SITUATION IS ODA'S WAY OF SHOWING HOW "FLEXIBLE" LUFFY IS..

    • @purgatory3653
      @purgatory3653 Před 4 lety +29

      so you are saying that Luffy just being himself while flexing causally

    • @TheBigShoe1911
      @TheBigShoe1911 Před 4 lety +14

      Most underrated comment....

    • @alexlathrop1462
      @alexlathrop1462 Před 4 lety +13

      Given Oda's record, I can totally see him pulling that. Look at how Luffy has fought throughout the arc. He'd be changing strategies, working new techniques ON THE FLY between battles/losses in order to work a new edge in order to win.

    • @micah1121
      @micah1121 Před 4 lety +5

      Aye yo. I’m fking weak. This comment is life 🙏🏾😂

    • @UmbraJoy
      @UmbraJoy Před 4 lety

      Xette Xotics stop with the caps

  • @MochaPhilanthropist
    @MochaPhilanthropist Před 4 lety +312

    Can you imagine Trafalgar Law having the same observation as katakuri. The amount of disrespect he is gonna throw with his fruit 🍎 🤯🤯

  • @Marsh9090
    @Marsh9090 Před 4 lety +1132

    Don't let this distract you from the fact that Oda is extremely secretive of Zoro's full power. When a character's full potential is hidden to this degree, its because they are broken af
    Source: a Zoro fanboy

    • @prime7042
      @prime7042 Před 4 lety +80

      marsh9090 luffy would low diff zoro in gear 4

    • @Jon155mt
      @Jon155mt Před 4 lety +4

      😂😂😂

    • @Jersonx3000
      @Jersonx3000 Před 4 lety +3

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @realtruth1448
      @realtruth1448 Před 4 lety +52

      Soviet For Live luffy would not low diff zoro in G4 you trippin

    • @donmasama
      @donmasama Před 4 lety +29

      Carrot almost speedblitzed Loro pre sulong

  • @LeTheGenD
    @LeTheGenD Před 4 lety +109

    The monster trio now is composed of Zoro, Sanji, and Jinbe. Luffy is on a completely different level right now.

    • @asishjaison6338
      @asishjaison6338 Před 4 lety +11

      @@clayy5095 Luffy is the main character and the most popular character in one piece in every poll, that's why Oda focuses on Luffy more.

    • @Humble197
      @Humble197 Před 4 lety

      @@clayy5095 Yeah I want some more love for the other characters. Robin has not had a damn battle since Skypiea that's crazy.

  • @thegantz87
    @thegantz87 Před 4 lety +519

    This is an impressive streak you have going on here with the vids. Let’s keep this goin

  • @DEATHxTHExKIDx1
    @DEATHxTHExKIDx1 Před 4 lety +45

    That's why I love Gear 4 its the game changer. And luffy held it In his back pocket till Dressrosa. That's the fruit of his training melding Haki and DF.

  • @1nick11
    @1nick11 Před 4 lety +184

    people gotta know, luffy is like 19 years old being as strong as people who are in their 40s

    • @wpower7435
      @wpower7435 Před 4 lety +7

      luffy is 20 confirmed in the wano arc.

    • @johnlaceda6542
      @johnlaceda6542 Před 4 lety +4

      @@wpower7435 Wait what, when? Was there an interview or something?

    • @Shark-hn4mv
      @Shark-hn4mv Před 4 lety +6

      @@johnlaceda6542, I'd say it's believable since Luffy started his journey at 17. Before the timeskip, almost a year could have passed. Meaning Luffy was almost 18, and two years after that he'd be almost 20 when they met again.

    • @johnlaceda6542
      @johnlaceda6542 Před 4 lety +5

      @@Shark-hn4mv I thought he was confirmed to still be 19, with Zoro and Sanji being 2 years older than him at 21.

    • @SilverConan
      @SilverConan Před 4 lety +4

      which is cringe

  • @kingjaylen9712
    @kingjaylen9712 Před 4 lety +53

    Luffy isn't a freak of nature like the top-tiers in the verse, but he grows at 2x their speed. Blackbeard is a 40 year old Yonko and Luffy will be able to-hopefully- fight him in a 1v1 at age 19 (possibly 20)

    • @darrenraphael
      @darrenraphael Před 4 lety +17

      Luffy is a freak of nature, go look at what he was dealing with at the age of 7.

    • @FrarmerFrank
      @FrarmerFrank Před 4 lety +2

      SBlackbeardis a manipulative poser that wanted the Darkness fruit so he could store 1 fruit in the darkness to access the Rumble fruit thinking it would make him the most powerful.....and then he backs down from 4 billion plus Shanks challenge at Marineford (maybe something to do with Shanks speed blitzing all over the Marineford battle field and cockblocking a magma fi)

    • @kingjaylen9712
      @kingjaylen9712 Před 4 lety +6

      @@darrenraphael Luffy wouldn't be able to kill Giant warriors at age 7 like Big Mom, Kaido, Jack, etc. That's what I mean by freaks of nature

    • @darrenraphael
      @darrenraphael Před 4 lety +6

      @@kingjaylen9712 Luffy is a bigger freak of nature.
      He is going to Prime Roger and Prime Whitebeard level at age 20.

    • @kingjaylen9712
      @kingjaylen9712 Před 4 lety +1

      @@darrenraphael I highly doubt that. I can only see Luffy being that strong at age 40

  • @ego2133
    @ego2133 Před 4 lety +57

    This is the main problem I have with One Piece (and most Shonens in general).
    Luffy will manage to do in 4-5 years at max what the most legendary people in One Piece did in 20-30 years, and even more.

    • @kennythelenny6819
      @kennythelenny6819 Před 4 lety +18

      I know man. My man Roger had to find lodestar and then travel around the world a second time. It took him a long time and he was unfortunate to be diseased. Luffy is out here going to give Ls to people with over 40 years experience than him.

    • @thefire-man4527
      @thefire-man4527 Před 4 lety +34

      kinda makes sense though in this case though. Roger had to search the whole seas himself and get stronger himself. he also had to backtrack a great deal upon getting oden.
      Luffy is getting everything handed to him. he got a crewmate that can read poneglyphs off the jump and has been trained by someone whos literally seen it all. 19 may be a bit too young but it makes sense luffy is as strong as he is

    • @darrenraphael
      @darrenraphael Před 4 lety +13

      @@thefire-man4527 Roger was like Shanks and Luffy, he got strong early.
      Unlike Luffy, Roger did not know people who could read the ponelglyphs, early on in his journey
      He already conquered the Grandline 39 years ago.
      He beat the Rock Pirate crew 38 years ago. He took out his first Rival Xebec D Rocks.
      Roger was in his prime 40 + years ago.

    • @silversauceran
      @silversauceran Před 4 lety +13

      Facts. It’s pretty stupid when you think about it. For all the supposed “hard work” of these main characters they break the world in 6 or 7 years while most people need at least 20 years of grueling work experience training loss etc to do anything. Don’t make no sense except it’s a power fantasy... it doesn’t have to make sense and people just eat it up and power scale all the live long day

    • @joshlyman7059
      @joshlyman7059 Před 4 lety +1

      I dont mind the 4 years part, but with pretty much every shonen i wish they had the nerve to make their protagonist older, as Oda should have done with Luffy
      But i know they wont so i just kinda always ignore the age

  • @kizaru1v2bigmomandkaido92
    @kizaru1v2bigmomandkaido92 Před 4 lety +152

    And I still have to convince people that Luffy is way stronger than Zoro and Sanji

    • @jonnoibeckford2490
      @jonnoibeckford2490 Před 4 lety +21

      He not way stronger than Zoro

    • @Ax1oM11oo
      @Ax1oM11oo Před 4 lety +66

      @@jonnoibeckford2490 He's quite stronger. Not only was he strong, very strong post TS, he has been fighting a lot since postTS and has grown A LOT more. I also do believe he's stronger by a good margin.

    • @kizaru1v2bigmomandkaido92
      @kizaru1v2bigmomandkaido92 Před 4 lety +14

      jonnoi beckford yes he is

    • @jonnoibeckford2490
      @jonnoibeckford2490 Před 4 lety +4

      @@Ax1oM11oo he not Zoro beating 1st commander this arc and is cutting Kaido

    • @itwasallpartofmyplanforyou4083
      @itwasallpartofmyplanforyou4083 Před 4 lety +36

      jonnoi beckford zoro gets no diffed by kaido like absolutely stomped. And the king is just gonna body zoro

  • @clubpenguin316
    @clubpenguin316 Před 3 lety

    Your videos are the bomb dude. you're so knowledgeable and have a great flow

  • @calvinnguyen1870
    @calvinnguyen1870 Před 4 lety +128

    Well of course. Luffy, thematically, has always been portrayed as a sort of chosen one. Being saved at Loguetown by lightning ex machina (most likely by Dragon but it’s still portrayed as a sort of divine intervention). Being immune to Enel’s powers, making him god’s natural enemy. Having conqueror’s haki. His uncanny similarities to Roger including but not limited to hearing the voice of all things. The D in his name. Yes, Zoro, Sanji, Law and Kid have all been portrayed as capable, but in the end, everyone bets on Luffy. Gear 4th didn’t make Luffy overpowered. Luffy’s always been overpowered and Oda’s never been shy about showing it.

    • @slytherine373
      @slytherine373 Před 4 lety +1

      Yass

    • @rasenganmaster101
      @rasenganmaster101 Před 4 lety +10

      if anything blackbeard has as well, to an insane amount, zoro's been hyped up as well

    • @alexlathrop1462
      @alexlathrop1462 Před 4 lety +15

      Luffy is essentially the "Goku" of the One Piece story. But with better characterization, development and overall better story/plot

    • @rasenganmaster101
      @rasenganmaster101 Před 4 lety +11

      @@alexlathrop1462 eh, it's more complicated than the "goku" of one piece. since luffy isn't the one fighting the biggest of the bad opponent after opponent. the world revolves around itself, not to luffy like dragon ball does goku so it feels a lot different

    • @alexlathrop1462
      @alexlathrop1462 Před 4 lety +5

      @@rasenganmaster101 Right, that's what I was meaning with my comment in "better development and characterization".

  • @DemonFox369
    @DemonFox369 Před 4 lety +38

    Yonkos at 19 years old
    Admirals at 19 years old
    Mihawk, Roger, Garp, etc. at 19 years old
    I wonder if Luffy can beat them

    • @isaacabiola8397
      @isaacabiola8397 Před 4 lety +1

      Yes to all of them ,yonkos not to sure .

    • @Leo-ll5bl
      @Leo-ll5bl Před 4 lety +25

      Admirals at 19? definitly. Roger and mihawk? hard to say. Yonkos? for kaido definitly, for whitebeard depends and for big mom I would say no. At 19 the strongest character ever seems to be big mom in my opinion.

    • @playstationRockss
      @playstationRockss Před 4 lety +4

      It's hard to say. Luffy trained with Rayleigh at a young age and had his devil fruit damn near his whole life. Did any other pirates or admiral have that advantage. How fast or how slow was each of theirs progression when it comes to power.

    • @prime7042
      @prime7042 Před 4 lety +20

      DemonFox369 big mom was the strongest 19 year old
      She destroyed giants at the age of 5
      She probably was close to admiral lvl at that time

    • @joocypaleorc2149
      @joocypaleorc2149 Před 4 lety +3

      Soviet For Live lol her slow ass aint beating kizaru now even at her old age

  • @natelee6061
    @natelee6061 Před 4 lety +59

    0:45 KING OF LIGHTING VS BIG MOM

    • @sexysamba2025
      @sexysamba2025 Před 4 lety +3

      Lmao, King would eat big mom clean

    • @phothewin6019
      @phothewin6019 Před 4 lety +3

      Sexy Samba Would you eat out Big Mom for just $20,000?

  • @themaximum9474
    @themaximum9474 Před 4 lety +43

    You can't tell how strong Zorro is atm considering he never, not even remotely, broke a sweat since the time skip.

    • @fikrijuliansyah1601
      @fikrijuliansyah1601 Před 4 lety +7

      He fought fodders. Lmao. He struggle to defeated pica because how slow he is. Yeah, he wasnt shed any sweat just blood bcause hawkin and killer, lmao

    • @neymarjrjaffrayj.jacksonde2734
      @neymarjrjaffrayj.jacksonde2734 Před 4 lety

      @@fikrijuliansyah1601 dont forget fujitora

    • @bigmoisture69
      @bigmoisture69 Před 4 lety

      @@fikrijuliansyah1601 And now apoo lmaoo

    • @wonder777warrior6
      @wonder777warrior6 Před 3 lety

      thats cause he hasnt been fighting second tier fighters in his level, in punk hazard he didnt beat ceasar or vergo, in dressrosa he didnt even touch doffy or diamante, in zou, not much happened, wano, he beat a crippled masked man who laughs. Zoro's best moments in this current arc is beating a commander or a tobi roppo.

  • @Kidkinsey
    @Kidkinsey Před 4 lety +24

    This man luffy done separated himself like goku did the z fighters

    • @Kidkinsey
      @Kidkinsey Před 4 lety

      @Yonis Ali I hope it isnt the case zoro NEEDS a great showing in this arc

    • @Juskii.
      @Juskii. Před 4 lety +3

      Yonis Ali i mean he is gonna be the strongest pirate ever so i’m pretty sure he gonna always be way more powerful than zoro he has to overcome much more

  • @haydn1708
    @haydn1708 Před 4 lety +25

    Luffy may have progressed a liitttlle bit too quickly but considering how much has happened since the timeskip I would say that a better criticism would be that Law, Zoro, Sanji and peers are UNDERpowered. We need to see these people go all out and progress. Like hell the entire reason some people scale Zoro > Luffy is precisely because we have not seen him fight properly - which is crazy

    • @FrarmerFrank
      @FrarmerFrank Před 4 lety +5

      Garp trained him as a "super soldier" from little before training with Ace and Sabo so being able to pnch through steel and stone at the start of his adventure and self advance in new techniques with minimum guidance is not that unusual

    • @johnlaceda6542
      @johnlaceda6542 Před 4 lety +9

      I wouldn't say his peers are underpowered, it's just that Luffy has gotten more opportunities to grow. I mean he'll be fighting Yonkos in his early 20s, if we scale all the other supernovas up to him, we'd have 11(12 if you add Blackbeard) 20 year old Yonko level fighters running around. I'm pretty sure Luffy's peers are progressing at a regular rate, it's just that Luffy's growing exponentially due to insane amount zenkai boost like power ups he's gotten post time-skip in comparison to his peers.

    • @joshlyman7059
      @joshlyman7059 Před 4 lety +2

      Not really, there are very few people in the tier Luffy has to reach eos. Roger, WB, Rocks, maybe Sengoku and Akainu, Dragon, Maybe Imu and eos BB. We don't need "Luffys peers" be on his level, in fact it would be weird if more than say BB and maybe 1 more like Kid or maybe Sabo (if he indeed fights Akainu) were, Luffy will have about as many 'equals' as Roger. And Ray and Scopper were not Roger's equals, neither will Zoro or Sanji

  • @michaelmalaxos3631
    @michaelmalaxos3631 Před 4 lety

    I appreciate how much effort and quality you put in these videos

  • @dryoxe99
    @dryoxe99 Před 4 lety

    Sweet recap, loved it 👍

  • @doindado4328
    @doindado4328 Před 4 lety +17

    Luffy doesn’t care if he dies when he fights 🤷🏾‍♂️ that’s a different type of strength

    • @faznanbadri6854
      @faznanbadri6854 Před 3 lety

      yeah.... when he has other people willing to die for him, his strength is kinda unlimited. and that is definition for OP.

    • @doindado4328
      @doindado4328 Před 3 lety

      @@faznanbadri6854 bro every captain has people willing to die for them sooooooo 😑 bad example 🤣🤣🤣

    • @faznanbadri6854
      @faznanbadri6854 Před 3 lety +1

      @@doindado4328 ohhh yeah? every captain?

  • @UltaBlueRev
    @UltaBlueRev Před 4 lety +85

    Prediction: If Luffy has learned to manipulation his ryou, then he wont run out of haki in gear 4 like he does.

    • @jsmooth8655
      @jsmooth8655 Před 4 lety +3

      Will Brobeck hot take, I imagine it still runs out but that would be dope

    • @johnlaceda6542
      @johnlaceda6542 Před 4 lety +15

      I highly doubt it won't every run out, but he'll definitely be more efficient with it. Leading to a longer duration time and maybe even getting rid of the whole "being unable to use Haki after G4 runs out" drawback.

    • @PennytheBALLstar13
      @PennytheBALLstar13 Před 4 lety

      Will Brobeck i think your were right about him casually using in the latest chapter

    • @loseljukes5204
      @loseljukes5204 Před 4 lety +2

      He’ll be admiral level once g4 can basically be his base form

    • @TheHolyBuster1
      @TheHolyBuster1 Před 4 lety +2

      @@johnlaceda6542 Luffy also overcame the drawback of gear 3 which was kinda similiar to gear 4. He is using it casualy now, so i guess the drawback is gone or very minimal.

  • @doc1993
    @doc1993 Před 3 lety

    Good explanation, you earned yourself a sub.

  • @strangestthings2619
    @strangestthings2619 Před 4 lety

    Dont stop making these plz you're my favorite person to listen to so far

  • @feliperodrigues5437
    @feliperodrigues5437 Před 4 lety +10

    I agree, Luffy is blowing everyone who's not Yonko commander or above out of the water, and that includes Kidd, it's not even close.

    • @Juskii.
      @Juskii. Před 4 lety

      Felipe Rodrigues exactly , I always knew kidd was never gonna be on luffy’s level blackbeard if anything is luffys rival not bumass kidd he has no feats

  • @qaia7400
    @qaia7400 Před 4 lety +20

    Imagine finding one piece inside luffys chest lol

  • @BlkSparta
    @BlkSparta Před 4 lety

    Loved the break down bro

  • @cj1ish
    @cj1ish Před 4 lety

    This is one of the best power scaling vids out period. Phenomenal job!

    • @blackiechan6039
      @blackiechan6039 Před 4 lety

      cj1ish lol please be saying this sarcastically😂

  • @donmayers3841
    @donmayers3841 Před 4 lety +6

    Really good breakdown. But you mentioned a key point. That luffytaro was trained by Raleigh-san and i believe we still haven't seen all the aspects to that training as yet

    • @carnageassassin2617
      @carnageassassin2617 Před 4 lety

      I thought that too but come on its been like 400 episodes i think he has nothing up his sleeve at this point

  • @shadelle11
    @shadelle11 Před 4 lety +16

    Overpowered with plenty of power ups yet to come. We know 3 that are guaranteed, Perfecting Gear 4th, Mastering Haki, and Awakening. Then you got the theory power ups like Gear 5th, Special D Clan Ability, and so on.

  • @epicnaturenoise6038
    @epicnaturenoise6038 Před 4 lety

    Good job mate !

  • @billcosby5674
    @billcosby5674 Před 4 lety

    Phenomenal video man

  • @Thefan8
    @Thefan8 Před 4 lety +32

    Im not confident naming any character at 19 being stronger than Luffy. His trajectory is nuts.

    • @theyoungyonko8768
      @theyoungyonko8768 Před 4 lety

      Lol

    • @lucasbraga4517
      @lucasbraga4517 Před 4 lety +15

      *one piece character,are u dumb?

    • @Leo-ll5bl
      @Leo-ll5bl Před 4 lety +10

      Big mom was likely stronger than luffy at 19. Also she was probably the strongest among shiki kaido and whitebeard at the time of the rocks pirates.

    • @kingjaylen9712
      @kingjaylen9712 Před 4 lety +2

      Garp, I would argue, was even crazier at 19 then Luffy is now

    • @prime7042
      @prime7042 Před 4 lety +4

      Uncle Bobby big mom at 19 would still destroy luffy

  • @MrLeonLuffy
    @MrLeonLuffy Před 4 lety +57

    Imagine being a pro top mma fighter getting beat up by a 19 year old

    • @threeequalsd4865
      @threeequalsd4865 Před 4 lety +19

      I'm betting that happens all the time. In other sports it's actually pretty common.

    • @JustButton
      @JustButton Před 4 lety

      Three Equals D it’s still an upset.

    • @Theemptythroneistaken
      @Theemptythroneistaken Před 4 lety +5

      Hatianidiot Do you know how old Mike tyson was when he won his first world title?

    • @prime7042
      @prime7042 Před 4 lety +2

      white america's worst nightmare Jon Jones is the youngest champion
      Not a good example

    • @JustButton
      @JustButton Před 4 lety

      Darth Nihilus Old enough to flip Kaido onto his ass probably.

  • @jmanzangetsu
    @jmanzangetsu Před 4 lety

    Yo king loving these one piece discussion videos keep up the 🔥

  • @taylorwebb732
    @taylorwebb732 Před 4 lety

    First video I’ve ever watched, Im impressed man!

  • @youngjesus5992
    @youngjesus5992 Před 4 lety +3

    this just motivated me to read the manga lmao I've beenso damn bored lately with the anime being postponed and the coronavirus ruining everything.

  • @chrishunjackson8317
    @chrishunjackson8317 Před 4 lety +6

    I agree with EVERYTHING this man just said...

  • @Mandorle21
    @Mandorle21 Před 4 lety +2

    I love these videos KOL, do more power scaling!

  • @derkarma2661
    @derkarma2661 Před 4 lety

    really good video 👍

  • @yangaakdasta212
    @yangaakdasta212 Před 4 lety +4

    I think the way KOL's videos are actually very well made... Pewdiepie level. Extremely underrated.

    • @silversauceran
      @silversauceran Před 4 lety

      Who is his editor tho?

    • @EcopiuM
      @EcopiuM Před 4 lety

      PewDiePies videos aren't really that well made lmao

  • @aceboogie2811
    @aceboogie2811 Před 4 lety +13

    10:13 "classic" 😂😂😂😂

  • @mahoraga1528
    @mahoraga1528 Před 4 lety +1

    I love these character growth and strength vids

  • @ChrisPirillo147
    @ChrisPirillo147 Před 4 lety

    Man, you do a pretty goddamn job! Totally love your videos. Your thoeries are always right on mark! I subbed and liked 🙂

  • @keithjones5096
    @keithjones5096 Před 4 lety +3

    But isn’t Luffy’s separation in power on point with how Oda structures each pirate crew? You have an extremely powerful captain, then you have guys like the sweet commanders, the three calamities, or whitebeard’s division commanders. So is Luffy overpowered, or is he just taking the position of extremely powerful captain while having very powerful people underneath?

  • @miguelmiranda9079
    @miguelmiranda9079 Před 4 lety +72

    Luffy is by far stronger then all the supernovas in one piece, it's going to be hard to accept kid, law and the rest of the supernovas to be his equal with out showing us the readers how they got that stronger.

    • @thefire-man4527
      @thefire-man4527 Před 4 lety +10

      well kidd at least definitely gets stronger by fighting strong opponents like luffy does. but this arc is odas last attempt to prove to me kidd is on luffys level

    • @joestriker8518
      @joestriker8518 Před 4 lety +15

      Haven’t you noticed already? Oda does not “show” how characters progress, they just get stronger because the plot requires them to, which is poor writing.

    • @mondsross2
      @mondsross2 Před 4 lety +1

      I argue Kidd isn’t a slouch because he went against Shank’s crew offscreen and survived. That’s a power up in my book.

    • @GammaRayXZ
      @GammaRayXZ Před 4 lety

      You are not including blackbeard im assuming

    • @thefire-man4527
      @thefire-man4527 Před 4 lety

      @@GammaRayXZ blackbeard is a part of the worst generation but he isnt a supernova

  • @tomsmoove1454
    @tomsmoove1454 Před 4 lety

    ive seen couple of youre videos but i think overall u have the best theories, recent sub ngl but ur content is hilarious and great dont stop bro

  • @mightyso9281
    @mightyso9281 Před 4 lety +1

    King of consistent

  • @Ssilencer
    @Ssilencer Před 4 lety +5

    It's like Luffy kinda has the mindset that he cant afford to die, we've seen badass moments from Luffy in the past and we'll see more in the future but Red leg Zeff did say that guys like Luffy arent afraid of death when they fight.

    • @AceofJays15
      @AceofJays15 Před 4 lety

      Luffy said himself in episode 1, he doesn't care if he dies as long as he does it fighting for his dreams

    • @MoMo-vt2ij
      @MoMo-vt2ij Před 2 lety

      luffy won't die. he doesn't die in the most bullshit way. ofc you can defeat your opponents when your allowed to try over and over again. in any other anime luffys opponents would've finished him. he gets stronger cause he can't die due to plot. he defeats his opponents due to not dying and allowed to get back up. he wins and survives off plot itself.

  • @TheGallant9
    @TheGallant9 Před 4 lety +10

    Oda Gave Luffy Serious Opponents unlike Zoro, Law, and Sanji

  • @CliftonLT
    @CliftonLT Před 4 lety

    These are the kind of vids I like from you KoL. Would sub if they happened more often, and the streams weren't so extra...

  • @nsfwvirgin7990
    @nsfwvirgin7990 Před 4 lety

    Zay mousu rated and stuff. Just subbed . mad content

  • @jarinxcii263
    @jarinxcii263 Před 4 lety +11

    Against Rob Lucci Luffy got on shotted. Kaido is definitely going down. Luffy gets stronger as he fight. After Wano he will take on the Admirals

    • @saucyfn1958
      @saucyfn1958 Před 3 lety +1

      If he beat kaido then admirals are nothing do you not understand admirals are wayyyyyy weaker then yonko

    • @GTS-dh9wj
      @GTS-dh9wj Před 3 lety

      @@saucyfn1958 not way weaker

  • @1233bobb
    @1233bobb Před 2 lety +3

    This video hits different after Chapter 1044

  • @sparky37789
    @sparky37789 Před 4 lety

    I'm glad a one piece channel has finally great editing and dank memes

  • @werunvegasdotcom
    @werunvegasdotcom Před 4 lety

    nice video my g

  • @Theemptythroneistaken
    @Theemptythroneistaken Před 4 lety +4

    Makes it better when you know he’s just a kid! He’s not even in his prime years yet.

  • @jsmooth8655
    @jsmooth8655 Před 4 lety +5

    Imagine bound man with future sight😩😩😩 also I’m a Zoro fanboy and we haven’t seen his full potential AND Sanji still has the raid suit to show but Luffy IMO low mid diffs them both if not baby shakes

  • @wickedg2722
    @wickedg2722 Před 4 lety

    One of your best videos bro

  • @aidanosullivan7731
    @aidanosullivan7731 Před 4 lety

    I loved this video thank you king.

  • @lostmarimo
    @lostmarimo Před 4 lety +46

    It's a shame we can't see the growth of zoro and sanji like for Luffy. He has become the main focus because Oda is trying to wrap it up :(
    I am glad you finally wised up on the w7 fights tho. It was annoying seeing you scale the monster trio off those fights like they all couldn't move after their fight lol

    • @johnlaceda6542
      @johnlaceda6542 Před 4 lety +11

      I mean, I find that it's only natural though. I think for a while, Oda has been building up Luffy to be someone who will stand atop his generations. While people like Kidd, Law, maybe even Koby will get to the the same level as Roger, Whitebeard and Garp, but Luffy will surpass that level, as stated by Don Chinjao. I don't think anyone will be on the same level as EOS Luffy like Whitebeard and Garp was to Roger. They'll be close no doubt, very close, but not truly on par with him.

    • @johnlaceda6542
      @johnlaceda6542 Před 4 lety +1

      But I could be wrong, Oda's fairly unpredictable so...

    • @lostmarimo
      @lostmarimo Před 4 lety

      @@johnlaceda6542 Yeah ofc i think that Luffy will be on the top of the game. But he doesn't need to get all the attention all the time when it comes to training. In my opinion, Tho i like Zoro and sanji more than luffy so i guess i am biased

    • @johnlaceda6542
      @johnlaceda6542 Před 4 lety

      @@lostmarimo Oh yeah, that's fair. Seems Oda really does want to finish the series in 5 years, truly is a shame I guess.

    • @alen1597
      @alen1597 Před 4 lety

      Well I think he has done that post time skip because luffy is about to fight yonkous, while zoro and sanji are about to fight commanders, just like luffy against doffy,cracker and kata, but they are going to do that growth after luffy.

  • @DemonFox369
    @DemonFox369 Před 4 lety +6

    How broken was Roger’s haki if he didn’t have a DF and evenly matched WB?

    • @gimiked8685
      @gimiked8685 Před 4 lety +1

      Yea I'm assuming he had the 3 types like luffy but had them mastered. The observation keeps him able to dodge and attack perfectly. Armorment keeps him protected and allows him to hit logias, and we still do not know the extent of kings haki. But we do know it knocks out the weak and that there is more to it. So if he had all three mastered or mostly mastered he would have been the goat. The haki power system is really like the full circle of combat. Attack, defense, and prediction. Knowing the moves before they are made mixed with perfect defense and offense is the total package. We do not know how good Roger's abilities were but we know he was the king. So I'm guessing they were either master of all of them or master of a couple types and 3/4 of the other or something like that. I wouldn't be surprised though if he had all three mastered. I just hope oda finishes this out as well as he has been. As we saw with naruto and bleach it is easy to have a cool story. But ending it well is harder to do. Game of thrones series as well. I do not want to see it end with aliens unless it fits somehow. Or end with this all being a dream of some super advanced robot or whatever out of left field thing it could be. There is obviously something crazy we are gonna learn about the void century and the moons may play a part since they have loads of hints and references about them. And the celestial dragons are wearing space suits so there will be something space related. Just hope it flows well when it all comes out and we finally see the truth of the story.

    • @NumeroUnoApolloTheFirst
      @NumeroUnoApolloTheFirst Před 4 lety

      DemonFox369 It wasn’t broken in contrast to the top tier. His advanced armament haki evenly matched with Whitebeard’s own advanced armament haki.

    • @NumeroUnoApolloTheFirst
      @NumeroUnoApolloTheFirst Před 4 lety

      gimiked Why do you assume that he would the only to have mastered all three haki. I’m pretty sure The Admirals and Yonko have also mastered it. He isn’t the goat for that.

    • @johnlaceda6542
      @johnlaceda6542 Před 4 lety

      Quite strong I'd imagine.

    • @DemonFox369
      @DemonFox369 Před 4 lety

      Monarch v Likewise, I assume Kaido has Ryuo but I cannot see Luffy surviving something like that if he gets hit. Luffy learned it but we would assume peak tier characters already have it since anyone can train it

  • @zaraizara2794
    @zaraizara2794 Před 3 lety +2

    No matter how much overpower Luffy is, zolotard will say zolo is stronger than Luffy.

  • @laojk1055
    @laojk1055 Před 4 lety

    great vid

  • @bloodredcommanderigris3469

    The upload rate 😨 it's like a barrage of punches, from a sky full of cosmic donuts, coated in lightning based haki!? ...hail to the KOL!
    P.S Luffy is a beast

  • @normainejayvazquez6561
    @normainejayvazquez6561 Před 4 lety +9

    Well luffy has the power everyone doesnt have.
    "Protagonist" "main character"

  • @PetarBladeStrok
    @PetarBladeStrok Před 4 lety +1

    This video is amazing!!!

  • @xXcabotajeXx
    @xXcabotajeXx Před 4 lety

    Fokin subscribed.

  • @lamp9185
    @lamp9185 Před 2 lety +3

    bro luffy really op using kaido as a mfing skipping rope

  • @GiRR007
    @GiRR007 Před 4 lety +6

    Ashuras is definitely a transformable state, just because we haven't seen zoro use it often doesnt mean its not a state, weve seen zoro use multiple attack while in ashura. And honestly im willing to call devils leg a state as well, it persist even after sanji attacks with it a few times instead of it jsut being 1 attack.

    • @laojk1055
      @laojk1055 Před 4 lety

      Technically everyone is in a state of being.

  • @MonkeyDKloud
    @MonkeyDKloud Před 4 lety

    Yo man i feel you on alot that you said during this vid one thing i did want you to touch on was that the only person doflamingo has acknowledged as far as power goes is my man black leg cig smoking sanji

  • @songokuwhatifs7423
    @songokuwhatifs7423 Před 3 lety

    I loved this one piece b luffy power scale breakdown

  • @Slowjohnson
    @Slowjohnson Před 4 lety +13

    Luffy = Zoro for a very long time in the show, The man was a pirate hunter, how many other 2nd commands are Supernovas??

    • @OjiSensei
      @OjiSensei Před 4 lety

      Other than Kidd and Killer? No one. This is why I believe Kidd to be in the same tier as Luffy... at least in the current chapters.

    • @asishjaison6338
      @asishjaison6338 Před 4 lety +4

      Ugh here we go again. It's like you didn't even watch the video

  • @868SagaBoi
    @868SagaBoi Před 4 lety +12

    i feel like zoro is being under estimated. he still has a power up coming where he has to turn his first legendary blade into a black blade and also he was told that he doesn't know how to use the blade he got from the ghost samurai to it's full potential. it also hint's that his master was someone who left wano a long time ago as well

  • @jerrymaguswi8134
    @jerrymaguswi8134 Před 4 lety

    i love this video......................and i totally agree with you

  • @gloryboymichael4752
    @gloryboymichael4752 Před 4 lety

    🔥vid

  • @vascoshot6065
    @vascoshot6065 Před 4 lety +3

    Zoro has actually used asura more than once with different attacks so it may not be a ‘final attack’ form

    • @iamnotinvolved1309
      @iamnotinvolved1309 Před 4 lety

      When please?

    • @vascoshot6065
      @vascoshot6065 Před 4 lety +1

      iamnotinvolved once in enies lobby, once in sabaody against one of the pacifistas. The monster trio used their strongest attacks against it. Both brook & chopper comment on zoro growing 3 heads

  • @teddyeastside8051
    @teddyeastside8051 Před 4 lety +2

    I disagree about Kaku and Jabra. Zoans increase your base strength also so Kaku would have widened the gap. I’ll give you Jabra being more skilled with his devil fruit though but Kaku was more skilled outside his devil fruit.

  • @ritzkola2302
    @ritzkola2302 Před 4 lety

    Good video

  • @traviscalixte3148
    @traviscalixte3148 Před 4 lety

    I really liked this 🔥🔥🔥

  • @franciscobutte
    @franciscobutte Před 4 lety +4

    Because he's the protagonist maybe?
    Also Luffy must be the Shonen Jump's protagonist that has received more Ls by a loooong shot.

  • @NotTheWheel
    @NotTheWheel Před 4 lety +13

    Luffy is essentially in the "Goku phase" of his development in powers.
    Whereas Luffy sets the bar in strength the rest of the fighting cast work to catch up, Luffy is off training somewhere and becomes even stronger than that. So the power gap will be continually widening.

    • @rasenganmaster101
      @rasenganmaster101 Před 4 lety +1

      nah terrible comparison becuz sanji got his suit which franky said he'd EDIT later on, zoro got his OP asf haki sapping sword that cut a cliff by mistake lmao. if anything, it's still close

    • @aidanh7527
      @aidanh7527 Před 4 lety +2

      Zoro has to become around yonko level to accomplish his goal so I doubt the gap will ever be too big

    • @johnlaceda6542
      @johnlaceda6542 Před 4 lety

      @@aidanh7527 Wait, so you think Mihawk is Yonko level???

    • @aidanh7527
      @aidanh7527 Před 4 lety

      John Laceda I cant know for sure but is likely that he is since he is the best swordsman in the world shanks rival and zoro s end goal

    • @johnlaceda6542
      @johnlaceda6542 Před 4 lety

      @@aidanh7527 I dunno, I guess he could be, no one ever seems to know what goes through Oda's head, but it just doesn't make sense to me for Zoro to be Yonko level EOS, he'll likely be close, probably stronger than most of the admirals right now, but I personally doubt full blown Yonko level.

  • @azizdiab2289
    @azizdiab2289 Před 4 lety

    10:11
    Enjoy! I subscribed, great video keep it up!

  • @polibubabiaa1635
    @polibubabiaa1635 Před 4 lety

    U deserve alit more subs tbh

  • @heavenlyweather117
    @heavenlyweather117 Před 4 lety +37

    0:55 lmao wtf

  • @Samiamsz
    @Samiamsz Před 4 lety +3

    So like,you didnt wanna put a spoiler warning at the beggining for anime watchers my guy ;-;

    • @curtsoulonline
      @curtsoulonline Před 4 lety

      Stopped around 16mins because of this lol. But man now i'm off to continue with the manga, I can wait no longerrrr

  • @litehour
    @litehour Před 4 lety

    I really like the analyzation

  • @minixmex97
    @minixmex97 Před 4 lety

    Hey kingu! Could u make a video on what u think is gonna happen to sunny seeing how much oda is focusing on it getting beat up? Any opinions or theories?

  • @fatty5599
    @fatty5599 Před 4 lety +13

    Nah my boy god usopp is NOT in the weak trio 😎 Put my boy above Luffy and Zoro all day 😎

  • @Ampaomike
    @Ampaomike Před 4 lety +6

    Luffy is overpowered? Duh! He is the protagonist 😧

    • @miguelgonzalez6495
      @miguelgonzalez6495 Před 4 lety +3

      Can’t say the same about Gon and Killua. Lol
      But alas......Hiatus x Hiatus

    • @EcopiuM
      @EcopiuM Před 4 lety

      @@miguelgonzalez6495 True but realistically story wise they are in a kinda of "pre-timeskip" state for their world.

  • @aaronkeenan8188
    @aaronkeenan8188 Před 4 lety

    Salute to you sir

  • @jeffsama7601
    @jeffsama7601 Před 4 lety

    Bruh I've been searching for this channel for like forever.I finally found it✊

  • @deandremorgan365
    @deandremorgan365 Před 4 lety +3

    He says this now but watch one Zoro and Sanji pull some BS 🤣 19:27

  • @theyknowxo-6510
    @theyknowxo-6510 Před 3 lety +3

    Ok first off thats befo he didn't kno how to use conquerors haki with his punches thats why he got one hit by kaido because he was using conquerors haki but when he learned it he was dogging out kaido cmon now

  • @gravityyGang
    @gravityyGang Před 4 lety

    I fw the videos first time here

  • @Devin-ke4of
    @Devin-ke4of Před 4 lety

    0:51 classic KOL this is why I keep coming back 🤣🤣🤣