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- Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe react to LeBron James passing Kareem's All-Time playoff FG record last night. Hear what Skip and Shannon have to say about King James' legacy after passing another milestone.
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Skip and Shannon react to LeBron passing Kareem for All-Time playoff FG record | NBA | UNDISPUTED
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Does LeBron deserve praise for getting this record?
LeBron gets praise all of the time for everything he does, so of course.
YEAAHHHHHHH!!! 👍✌
I thought he broke the all time scoring record Lol
Yes if he didn’t play the minutes that he played would his team had the success that they had?
MVP
If anybody from the Spurs did this, then skip would be making a case for their greatness
BEST COMMENT OF THE DAY
Go spurs go
He'd be calling it the greatest stretch of basketball ever seen by the spurs or any team😂😂😂😂
Kevin R yes because all of them are underrated
Manu scores 10 points: This man is a hall of famer who should be sixth man of the year . Lebron breaks an all time record: This barely counts
Lol exactly. How come other players get so much more respect than bron tho?
Rrch Rrch he is to close to Jordan and his fans don't like that. And don't let me get started on Kobe fans
Tony- NOPE. Not even close. Lebron wishes.
LMAO
Tony Jones I am a Jordan guy,but I ain't biased or stupid. Bron is sitting at the table and he isn't far off from sitting next to him.
Breaking a record is Breaking a record...Point.!!
CHICO TROUBLE Unless you’re Westbrook
even it is fake af
Stat padding era
well what do you expect its a soft touch foul call era everybody can build stats.
@@dlaird88 and??. Still gotta get the stats. Lets talk about wilt stats pad. He said in his interview just wanted to score the ball. He realize he had to share the ball to win chips. The time he won his first he average 24pts and 8asts which is a career high in assists and career low in points.
People are so caught up into hating on LeBron but not noticing they're witnessing greatness and he's making history every time he steps on the court
Meanwhile the LeBron dickriders are quick to try and crown LeBron the GOAT by bringing down MJ. Everybody knows LeBron is great. Nice strawman though.
And meanwhile MJ fans can't talk about Lebron at all without bringing up MJ. It's getting scary at this point how panicked MJ fans are getting.
All because of that fake "GOAT" thing that doesn't exist.
But if you had actually watched the video, you'd here Skip was the one that brought up MJ. Hence why MJ is being brought up in the comments 🤔
Like I said, no one's hating on LeBron. Stop trying to create drama where there is none.
And if you were actually paying attention you would notice that MJ fans flock to every video about Lebron and fill the comments with their MJ propaganda blather. It's not just about this one video.
Plus....Skip is a huge MJ fan so that's a great demonstration of how MJ fans act. He is incapable of talking about Lebron without bringing MJ into it.
That's telling.
No people are so attached to lebrons nuts that we can’t appreciate him. Y’all are the worst fans. If y’all would just let that man play and stop comparing him to the goat and giving him excuses maybe we could appreciate him more
Skip is a straight up troll. The fact that LeBron played more minutes than Kareem should absolutely be a check-mark on his resume. How can you hold it against the man for play 40+ minute games and taking less rest?
landwolf00 it isn't a deterrent. People make these arguments against lebron because they have nothing else to argue. The fact is , lebron played more games and minutes than Jordan because lebron wins more. 5 out 15 seasons Jordan didnt make it past the first round , 7 times he didnt make it past the 2nd. If lebron goes to the finals this year it will be his 9th time in the finals. Skip reaches but at the end of the day he knows very little about sports
quentin mckenney lebron only goes to the finals because there’s Competition in the east you clueless noobs
quentin mckenney Lebron wins more? 3 comes before five for Lebron but 6 is before 0 for mike 🤷🏾♂️
quentin mckenney not his fault that mj cant get past the first round
He has all these stats, but wins less. When are lbj fans gonna understand this. Any player who ever played any type of organized bball, know it's about winning
lets just forget how kd went to the team he was up 3-1 on to win a title. a 73-9 team. yeah lets just forget about that.
Little390Monster ok
Sensei Rip why couldnt he hit at least 1 dagger on golden state in the western conf finals ? when youre on a team that can win the chip without you that confidence goes waayy up
Sensei Rip you responded to my comment “bruh” 😂 you shouldve “let it go”
Sensei Rip its not a fuss i spoke my opinion damn 😂
Ik it’s literally out my thought process
Shannon be having me weak 😂😂😂
Ok... Just clicked on the video and I know for certain that Skip will dramatically downplay this, just because LeBron did it.
James Burgess and Shannon will boost it because LeBron did it honestly Shannon‘s cheerleading is just as bad as skips hating neither of them are objective and they need Broussard on the show more
Hoop Life Cheerleading LeBron is justified tho. Skip reaches everytime
Hoop Life Shannon drops nothing but facts tho..
Remarkable SeiF shannon and Skip are bad because they each try to downplay what Jordan and Lebron do.
Hoop Life Skip is worse than Shannon. He constantly moves the goal posts and his love for Jordan exceeds Shannon's love for LeBron. On First take skip actually said Jordan would win a 1 on 1 against LeBron at age 45.
Skip makes no sense here...lebron broke the record on fewer shot attempts and bc of that he needed more minutes. How is that worse than mj? To me thats even more impressive. And 6 assists to 7 is a big difference for a whole career. Thats 1500 more assists in 15 seasons (if every season has 100 games). And i think lebron will have an even higher career assists average in a few years...he has more than 10 almost every game this year
Max Funke EXACTLY
he switches back and forth to suit his argument because once they talked about rebounds he switched to the season
He's obviously in love with him
Max Funke real hater
Real hater
3-5. That is how.
Shannon is the Uncle I’ve never had
Mojo 99 The uncle we all want
and Skip is the one we have lmao
No cap
@@luccasrocha4936 fax lol
“Let’s do regular season” the biggest hypocrite ever
Newsflash Skip, he passed Kareem not Jordan. Jordan should not have retired all those times and he would have had more.
Did Skip really just try and add Mj having some good years in college to the GOAT debate... Lebron averaged 31.4 in the nba in his 3rd year...
Jordan averaged 37 in his 3rd year. Try again.
how many points did Jordan average in the nba when he was 20/21?
Solomon Powell and Jordan got swept on the first or second round that year by boston.
LeBron will retire with 3 rings
YoxxSHIxx And LeBron choked in 2011. When has MJ ever choked that hard? The guy averaged less points than Wade & Bosh and shot 40%. Also he should’ve never lost to that Spurs team when Duncan was 37 and Ginobili was 36. That’s pitiful.
We are talking about Lebron vs Kareem in the record books and as the title says but somehow Skip brings in Jordan. Skip really is like a broken record. 😕
invincibleajay haha true skip always find a way to bring mj into the discussion
He insecure 😂😂😂 thats when you know deep down he loves lebron
If LBJ walked on water, Skip would say it's because he can't swim. It's nonsense.
The man is in love lol
Cordell Senior lol
Shannon is right... give LeBron a coach like Jackson or Popovich and he would win 2x more titles. We can see it right now with Stevens... a mediocore team can beat almost everybody with good coaching. Imagine having LeBron in that system... they would be invincible.
LeBron had plenty of chances to play with a good coach! He doesn't want to play in a system! He could have easily played with the Spurs instead of the heat! He needs the ball and 3 point shooters!
Dude, LeBron is the system
U mean the same phil Jackson who ruined the Knicks
It’s not that simple. Lebron could’ve easily gone to a team with a great coach or at least a better coach than lue. The problem is that Lebron only knows how to play Lebron ball, where everything goes through him.
Phil is so overrated, he should thank god everyday for having Jordan and Pippen and then shaq and Kobe
It's ashame that hater's don't no greatness when they see it
Lost Spur both are biased. Shannon and skip and not objective.
Julian Randolph yet u literally just commented some hate smh
Lost Spur it’s a shame bronsexuals can’t type properly.
Ali A L just take the L
*know
Love how skip says Tom Brady is not in the discussion...but somehow brings up the cowboys or lebron in topics that are irrelevant during said discussion
Lebron plays more minutes because he provides more value all around and he goes beyond just scoring. He controls the game in every way. Which is why Stephen Curry is the best player on the Warriors. Stephen Curry's game provides the same effect. This is why when comparing Durant to Lebron. Lebron wins every time, Kevin Durant doesn't provide the same level of value. It doesn't take away from the greatness of Kevin Durant. They're just two completely different players when comparing greatness.
Kenny Jr for starters, lebron beat kd in okc with him, harden, and WestBrook all on his team
For starters, LeBron lost to Dirk and some other people on his team. God knows who they were.
Kenny Jr let’s not act like he didn’t just say what he just said KD Russell Harden and Prime Ibaka On the same team. Everybody had OKC winning that series before it happened but just like y’all do in the eastern conference today y’all act like the team wasn’t/isn’t good it’s funny.
Kenny Jr they were 73-9 before like u said ofc if u add another superstar they would win easil it wouldn't matter if its kd lebron or anybody else
Kenny Jr, 5th greatest shooting guard. MJ,Kobe,West, Drexler>Wade
4:46 "Let's just stay with Kareem then.
Brings up MJ and KD 7 seconds later
Lebron’s only 33 and playing arguably the best basketball of his career. He about to put these records out of reach.
Aye Bernie he has potential to play till he is 40 that's 6-7 more seasons. These records just might be untouchable when he is done. if he gets to 6 rings it's over
Tony Jones Lebron could get 7 more rings if he went to another team like KD but he not a snake 😂😂
The only that count is rings 3-6
As a true sports fan I can’t stand Skip always hating on king 👑 James
SUPERMAN 2XL How do I become a true sports fan?
Should we start calling LeBron, Ole Goat James? Thoughts???
AMAX About neither
Faxx
Yes
Vaughn reed jr might be 6
Vaughn reed jr we gonna pretend his team wasn’t completely outmatched in 2007? we gonna pretend he didn’t lose 2nd and 3rd best player in 2015? we gonna pretend he didn’t have to face a behemoth in 2017 that no team could’ve beaten? aight, you’re an idiot.
Jordan was forced out because he was a gambling addict that’s selfish these guys could never last as many minutes the King do because they are not built like him
Sonmalachi Exactly! There was no Vibranium when MJ was playing.... oh wait🤔
conduit99 yes he would LOL, he’s a 6,8-6,9 250 pound living machine.foh
and Lebron would be much less effective playing back then.
Titles: MJ 6, Lebron 3
Finals Record: MJ 6-0, Lebron 3-4
Finals MVP: MJ 6, Lebron 3
Season MVP: MJ 5, Lebron 4
All Defensive teams: MJ 9, Lebron 6
All Defensive 1st team: MJ 9, Lebron 5
Defensive Player of the Year: MJ 1, Lebron 0
Scoring Leader: MJ 10, Lebron 1
Steals Leader: MJ 3, Lebron 0
Finals Record vs 60+ win teams: MJ 4-0, Lebron, 1-2
Finals Record vs Teams that finished 1st in the NBA overall: MJ 2-0, Lebron 1-2
Average Finals Record of Opponents: MJ 61-21, Lebron 60-22
Overall averages of core stats in entire career (Regular Season and Postseason Games combined)
PPG: Jordan 30.9, Lebron 27.3
RPG: Jordan 6.2, Lebron 7.5
APG: Jordan 5.3, Lebron 7
SPG: Jordan 2.3, Lebron 1.6
BPG: Jordan .84, Lebron .80
FG%: Jordan 49%, Lebron 49.7%
3PT%: Jordan 32.7%, Lebron 33.9%
FT%: Jordan 83%, Lebron 74%
Turnovers (Fewest): Jordan 2.7, Lebron 3.4
Pre Modern Era - Michael Jordan
Modern Era - Kobe Bryant
Post Modern Era - Lebron James
All of them are greats in their own ERA, debating and comparing great players in different era gets you to nowhere. Just appreciate the greatness for all the players. Everyone has their own opinion on who is the GOAT. If you ask me, I'll go with JORDAN not because he is my idol and not because of the stats. It is because the influence and impact he made to me as a normal person who loves basketball.
So if kobe or lebron or mj is your GOAT then there shoudn't be any argument because it is your own entitlement to pick who influence you the most
I wonder if Jordan can be a scoring leader this era with those FG%. Today's era has the most skilled players ever drafted. You can't be drafted by your scoring abilities alone, you gotta have to be good at defending also. it is also clear that a superstar who can only score is not enough, westbrook's 3 triple double season stats is a testament.
You used selective stats, I could make a list that favors Lebron easy! Lebron is the Goat, Mike won nothing without pippen Phil Jackson or the Triangle. Lebron won with 3 baby coaches different teammates, in three diff places, and you would not take none of those co stars over the 6 ring pippen Jordan played with.
hhahaahah dumb mj fans.
i think your a shooting guard XD well bron is all around so you did not appreciate bron greatness. you must know what is goat its the palyer who can handle every aspect of position in the floor. not just scoring and defense. thats why bron is in the goat discussion ppl like you dont accept it or just blind and hatin
@@mjhastin Start an argument without insulting someone bro. Be mature enough. No one is hatin on anybody.
Keep it healthy. Keep safe!
Once lebron passes everybody in every category ppl will stop using totals and just start using averages because no body is on his level😂😂😂
Nicolas Cruz gj bright 😂😂😂😂😂
100
Nicolas- It just means Lebron played a lot of games.
Not on his level????????
Wilt, Kareem, Olajuwon, and Oscar either has better averages or totals in major categories.
EmperorJBO well I’m sorry that those players couldn’t play as many minutes and still be in their prime😂 lebron could of averaged crazy number (he already does) but lebron has to conserve energy to do everything on the team
Nicolas Cruz Totals can be tricky. For example, Kareem, Karl and Kobe all have more career points than Jordan but are they considered better?
i’m lost! what’s wrong with playing more minutes than everyone else?
Joker0251 quality>quantity
Joker0251 it's like losing in the finals is worse than losing in the first round, people are just dumb.
Mick lol he lost in the 1st round to all time great teams with not much help. The celtics dominated the east and the lakers dominated the west. That 1-9 argument people use is stupid.
Exactly like when was playing more games a bad thing 😂😂😂
so when Lebron loses to all time great teams in the finals...that's less impressive?
I love how Kareem was barely mentioned, we always go back to the same and I ain’t ever gotten mad I love it haha
The minutes argument is stupid because Lebron is the most durable player of all time. You can’t just take away the fact he takes care of his body so well away from him. It’s like comparing two players with points when one is a 3 point shooter. You can’t just say he only has more points because he shoots threes. Which is true but it’s not my point
Sean James Players are durable today because they have access strengthing and conditioning training.. Players didn't have resources to that type of training back then.
Sean James He is just lucky he has never been injured
Sean James the minutes argument is stupid because LeBron is the only modern player to go this deep into the playoffs this many years in a row ...your going to rack up minutes
and how do you not score more?
first time ive seen shannon say sumtin good about kobe
I'm shocked that Shannon gave Kobe props.
Shannon ain't getting those shoes from Mike now lol.
Undisputed > First Take
Kyle Storey Shannon > First Take
Skip, MJ has laid a foundation for LBJ to surpass
Not James fault Jordan got eliminated early in the playoffs so he couldn't have more minutes ....LeBron's always in the finals so of course he will have more minutes he plays till game 6 or 7 every year in the finals.
It’s also not James fault that Jordan rarely let other teams reach a Game 7 once he got to his prime. The argument works both ways. Also LBJ didn’t even make the playoffs his first two years.
Nick Seul what are you talking about? Jordan and the Bulls had multiple game 7s, they just weren't in the finals. Jordan played against inferior teams in the finals, James plays against inferior teams in the East.
Joseph Johnroe Can you read? I said RARELY. I’m acknowledging that Jordan has been to game 7’s but it wasn’t often at all once he got into his prime. Also LeBron should be 5-3 in the finals maybe 4-4 with his only loses being to GS and his first one to the Spurs. He should’ve never lost in 2011 or 2014.
Y’all dumb. Jordan played the first round when you only have to win 5 games lol. So getting eliminated has nothing to do with it lol:
Not Jordan's fault he is about to be 3-6.
LBJ should come out with goat mask in pregame intros and start making goat noises! That would be epic.
He Earned it. LBJ has been carrying a team of scrubs to the finals year after year, get 4 random guys from a pick up game and add LBJ - instant title contender.
I cant be the only one that seen shannon miss his straw and struggle to find it 😂😂😂
Skip hates LeBron so much that if he were to get 7 rings and pass MJ, he’d still mention Dallas.
Don’t let this distract you from the Fact Kareem has 2 Finals MVPS for his 6 championships.
Jordan 6FMVPs/6Chips
LeBron 3FMVPs/3Chips
the GOAT -IsHere• 😂😂
Worst commit of all time
the GOAT -IsHere• REKT
the GOAT -IsHere• having magic helps a lot tbh
the GOAT -IsHere• Thank you for making the Kareem worshippers realize this.
The King just keeps breaking records 💪🏼
When you catch skip, he immediately changes the subject. No admission of being wrong
“But here’s the thang skiiiup”
Be realistic skip. U said mj is a scorer and then u said lbj play every position. Now how do u expect someone who's played every position to be 10x scoring champ!!?? Yeah mj got 10 and durant got 4 because they are a scorer lbj got more assist and rebound and then he even got a close avg points to mj playoffs 33 ppg or something ?? How is this even possible for a guy who played every position please tell me skip bayless.
matthew- why hasn't lebron dominated in any fashion like that? Where is his rebound titles? Assist titles?ETC? Only 1 scoring title.
Lebron is a stat padder. Just barely doing enough to say OH i'm a little better all around but not enough to make it clear.
we have a guy (6 foot 9 250-260 lbs) that dominates the ball way more than anyone, no centers to worry about? He is not a past first player- reluctant.
AND yet he only gets you 1-2 assist and rebounds more? Am I supposed to be impress? I'm not.
Bird who is way less athletic than Lebron- gets 10 rebounds a game! There was plenty of big man in Bird's time. How is it that Bird who is way slower/ no where near as athletic or strong gets more rebounds? Explain. It's a joke.
As much times as Lebron dominates the ball, he should have easily way more than 7 assist per game. This another lie- if he is such a pass first player- no way he would jack up 20 shots a game.
Media trying to sell him and say all this BS. And you fall for it.
EmperorJBO was bird played all position like lebron?? Bird didn't need to carry his team back then. And for points where is bird on all time points. U comparing to a player who's played in a slower pace than now or even in mj era. Ur explaination does not prove anything i ever asked.
EmperorJBO and u talking about how unatletic bird was but he still gets like 10 rebound. Please look at the film. Normally players didn't even contest for a rebound back then.
matthew- another lie you bought by the media. Lebron can't guard all positions. Maybe on one play but all game? NOPE....Lebron isn't even that much of a better defensive player than Bird was.
Bird was the main difference why his team had the hugest turnaround from the previous seasons. Bird made others around him truly better. lebron just pad his stats. Ask Danny Ainge that. Look Ainge stats.
It proves everything I said. Bird got his @$$ in the paint and out box the other bigs for rebounds. There was a lot of great big men as well. How come westbrook can get more rebounds than Lebron? My point exact.
80's was slow? It was fast.
Bird in far lesser time beats lebron.
matthew h- Lebron should be getting way more than 7 rebounds a game!
Point blank simple.
You look at film. No centers to worry about in this league. hahahahaha
These guys are the perfect duo really enjoy watching both your debates :)
Fast forward five years from now and Bron has passed Kareen in regular season points, added another ring to his legacy, and is still a top player in the league. And of course, Skip is still hating.
He’s kinda starting to lighten up a bit
I'm not saying LeBron is the goat but he is if not one of the greatest player in nba history congrats to LeBron for another feat accomplished
Joshin_ With_Ya then you’re delusional
Pls say who u think is the best that can carry a team like Lebron does and averages atleast 33 points in the playoffs
LeBron is great, he is transcendent but I think Michael is still the best but if LeBron plays 2 more seasons I think he will pass Michael
Joshin_ With_Ya
Lebron already passed everyone
Well said
since when playing more (minutes) in the playoffs a bad thing?
Skip Bayless has been to every game. Respect.
Lmao "sprinkle on some Olympics" 🤣
Shay Sharpe you are a walking quotable
could say there are better athletes now than jordans era
Jared Watt True! 90s Are Weak!
Yea
He has to because if he don't the cavs are lossing
Anybody else come back to just watch the old eps 😭
Shannon’s Signature Head Turn To The Left , is one of the reasons why I watch.
Skip really doesn’t appreciate greatness...
Harry Kane
3-6
Where the rings at
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LeGOAT 💪🔥💯
ö big W🐐
3-6
Gotta luv the Shannon says *"Skiyelp"*
Shannon "Michael my guy"
Skip: "He is not your guy"
🤣🤣💯
why you do dat skip
Micheal couldn’t sustain. That’s when Skip realized he lost the argument LOL
Skip's response at 7:25 had me dying.
I've never seen someone attempt to crush someone's career more than Skip Bayless........if you watch this every day you know
Jordan's Bulls wouldn't be 6-0 in the finals with today's Golden State team don't @ me
Under today's rules or the 90s rules?
Giordano- and Lebron wouldn't beat those Celtics or Pistons team either.
Just like Jordan didn’t either. Never beat the Celtics. And was only able to beat a Pistons team after they aged. Like come on now.
Apple.Eating.Turtle Stop regurgitating the bs that you hear other Jordan haters spew with the Pistons got old narrative. Key members of that team were not that much older than Jordan. Thomas and Rodman are only 2 years older while Dumars is the same age as Jordan. Plus they were the defending champs. How did they go from defending champs to old in just 1 year? Also, if being old is the reason why Jordan won, how come Sonics didn't beat the Bulls? How come Shaq and Penny didn't end Jordan's reign? How come Mavs and Spurs beat the Heat?
suntansuperman26 simple. Look at each teams players w/ their supporting cast and you tell me. It ain’t that difficult. It’s not about being a Jordan hater or lover. Just being realistic. Putting him on a pedestal for 6 - 0 when getting slapped around throughout the 80s isn’t untouchable imo.
Ok we get it. LeBron is a more ball dominant player then Jordan. He averages a couple of more assist and 1 rebound more than Jordan. LeBron also is 5th all time for turnovers. Jordan averaged more points, steals, and blocks. I don't understand the point in the discussion. They are different players at different times in history so how you really compare them or Kareem?
Exactly. YOU CANT
Javon Cook Jordan played in an era with hand checking allowed while LeBron plays in the no contact era. Jordan should have more steals and even with the rules difference the steals numbers aren't that different
Ehh. So with that logic LeBron should have more assist and turnovers because he is ball dominant and he should have more rebounds because he plays defense closer to the basket and he's taller. But with all that said the numbers aren't that different. So what was your point?
Love joys laugh/giggle
How is MJ playing 82 games a plus for him, but Lebron playing so many more minutes not a plus? If you are going to argue durability or availability or sustained greatness... dont both metrics count?
If you play 2k plus more minutes are we supposed to be impressed or shocked??!!
WAY WE WALK NYKEMYKE yes, because he attempted less FG and made more than Kareem
Skip be like ahhhh mkay ahhhhh #teamskip
lebron did it in less games thats more important than minutes
its an incredible accomplishment
Skip give the man his props damn he can't tie his shoe without you saying" Michael Jordan tired his shoe better" 🤦💀😂💯
Lebron is also the all time leader in turnovers in playoff history but that ain't nun of my business 👀
That's true and its not even close whose #2.
I mean u b n the playoffs every year almost of course u gon break every record good or bad thats facts u sound dumb
@@trevanatolston8185 ikr lol he played the most minutes ever
LeGoat
dionysis e big fax🐐
Leave it to Skip's early onset to kick in anytime LeBron passes another great!
All that sighing in the background 🤣 come on now Skip!! lol
How can people keep a straight face when saying LeBron is the GOAT?
Diogo Alves Dirk not top 10 sit down 😂😂👎
lil.dripptv. Dirk beat Bron in 6. Take the L
Diogo Alves You sound BIG MAD😂
25 shots yeah but that is nullified because Michael Jordan always shot 50% during his time in the Bulls and even including the Wizards years 49.7% for a career back in an era where you beat your man off the dribble and the opponents' PF and C
Who averaged 47%. Look it up, with the Bulls he averaged 50.5% from 1984-1998 and including Wizards he averages 49.7% from 1984-2003
J Day What are you even talking about? In the 1991 finals he had 56% FG % while averaging 31 points and 11 assists and almost 2-3 steals a game
Tashrif Alam he shot 52.4% and averaged only 8.4 assists in the 91 finals per basketbalreference.com
Tom Charles Ahh no. I searched basketball reference and its written Michael Jordan shot 56% with 31pts and 11 assits averagw so much so NBA2k11 recreated and challenged us to do the same
Tom Charles We are talking about the 1991 finals against the Lakers only, not the entire playoffs.
www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1991-nba-finals-lakers-vs-bulls.html
It doesn’t matter about minutes it’s a field goal record if he plays more minutes and has a good field goal efficiency that’s good. He does deserve praise for this record. That’s shows how efficiently he shows the ball in the playoffs
YES !
Lol LeBron does not want to play for any coach because he wants to play the LeBron James System where he dominates the ball all the time. If he really wants to then he would have joined San Antonio
Ok lets take a look at this. LeBron gets draftet to a bum franchise who fail to surrond him with any talent. or a good coach. He then go to Miami to play with his best friends and a HOF coach Eric Spolestra. Dont forget that the legendary Pat Riley also is in Miami. They go to the finals all 4 times and win 2 chips. He then decides to go back home and honor his legacy. A straight up bum that got stepped over by AI is the "coach". The only way you could blame LeBron is if he joins a bad coached team this offseason
Disregard this comment please, you are not lbj don’t tell me what he wants to do FOH
Really? He wasnt better off in Miami? That team was getting older but that team would have been better that any version of Cleveland.
iambatmanbro15 Disregard it for what? If he wanted to play for 'HoF Coach' then go to San Antonio Spurs and play in a system
applejuize That team only got better because DWade and Pat Riley gave the keys to LeBron and let him run the LeBron James system. When he tried to play off the ball he struggled as evident by his 2011 finals performance
Jordan got beatdown physically by the pistons bad boys, and knicks, because of the old school rules. That took a lot out of him. Also jordan also faced tougher defense. Olajuwon, mutombo, ewing, shaq.
carlos vega Jordan didn’t face any of those players. The centers on Jordan’s bulls teams did.... biggest misconception of Jordan’s career, he never faced any all time great Point guard or shooting guard during his championship runs. He dodged Olajuwon in the finals, and his team beat a 24yr old shaq. And wow Patrick Ewing how amazing 🙄😂
Connor R. Smith exactly
carlos vega and LeBron defeated Curry, Durant, And Duncan in the finals. Three of the greatest players in NBA history
I don’t agree with the tougher defense argument because fouling someone isn’t tough defense today’s lockdown defenders are better like kawhi because he’s doing it without touching or fouling were back then push grabbing and shoving some one was allowed because they weren’t able to slide defensively all game think about it
D. Page not to mention Westbrook and Harden Duncan Parker and Ginobili the original big 3
Skeeup! Killed Shane on this one!..🤣
Yes
'Why cant he play every position'? Michael Jordan could literally play PG, SG and SF when he wanted to.
Tashrif Alam oh my does basketball only have those 3 positions?
Joe Hinds hahaha I'm dead...was about to say the exact same
Not PF or C
So you mean to tell me a 6 foot 6 inch guy can play center and power forward? He played PG in the 1989 season for a stretch and then in stretches he can play PG as well
So you are mad at Jordan because of his knowledge to play in a system and LeBron James playing the LeBron James system?
Exceptional talent, constantly Stat padding and ballhogging and that is why he picked ty the east and his superteams. So he could have a cakewalk to the finals.
DsLmaNiaC um that’s why he picked the east?? Ok 1. he is a home bred product of Akron Ohio and and was drafted by the team representing his home state then he chases rings with his draft class teammates in bosh and dwade then he comes back to his hometown- state to win them a ring and is still there in his HOMETOWN with the team that DRAFTED him and you say he’s choosing to stay in the east for the cakewalk... stay woke my mans✌🏾
To correct your argument, that’s why people flew to the west to not face him in the east. I know your argument:”KG and Ray Allen came to from the west to east and knocked Lebron out” Well why don‘t you bring some more? Lol
why didn't mj leave the east if he was so good in his prime
Gavin- and when he faced the west- he is 6-0. No game 7's.
Why Lebron ran to miami instead of leading the cavs past the aging Celtics the way MJ did to the pistons?
Garvin James the east was the stronger division back then.
I really wish they bring that old school physical play back of the 80 and 90s then his numbers might be able to be compared until then forget about it
Here is what ends the “GOAT” debate for me……when Skip says, “he’s just a scorer” about MJ, not many people will disagree with that assessment. I certainly don’t, but that adds to LeBron.
It will never be said of LeBron James that he is “just a scorer”…..and that’s why he’s the GREATEST BASKETBALL PLAYER OF ALL TIME!
Edit: And one more thing….Jordan went to college because HE HAD TOO! He wasn’t good enough to go straight to the NBA! Another reason James is above Jordan.
Excellent player, stat demon, shaky under intense pressure.
azapro911 what? He has more playoff buzzerbeaters than Michael and Bron is insane in game 7's
azapro911 2 buzzer beaters in the playoffs this year
He's also lost five Finals, sometimes due to his own disappearing acts. GOATs don't do that anywhere near as frequently as him.
shaky? He has the most game winners in the playoffs. Plus a triple double in game 7 in the finals... he has the most points per game in game sevens... TAKE THAT FOR DATA
Jacopo Bottoni None of which has given him more than three championships. And unfortunately, field goals is a pretty significant weakness when those extra 15-20 points are costing him rings.
LeBron stats really not that good in all honesty. At this point he's just blatantly stat padding, cause it's really the only argument that's gonna keep him alive for the GOAT discussion. He knows deep down inside that 3-5 record not gonna help him no matter how much his fans try to create these narratives for him. Also he had the biggest meltdown in NBA history by a superstar player that will never be forgotten
W as always for me
If he wins 3 more rings, he will have a better record than Michael. Unlikely but not impossible.
And he had to join 2 SUPERstars (not all stars, SUPER stars) to get a ring.
willemdee u obviously don't know basketball😂😂 chris bosh was DEFINITELY an Allstar not no damn superstar .. And he left because the GM wouldn't give him help thats why he couldn't beat the celtics 🤔 God some people are flat out dumb
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Skip said “ when is LeBron ever gonna be coached, he is the coach” 😂😂😂😂
Lmao there back and forth is funny af
Wait 1000 more minutes and the games only 48. Lol 2000 more then Jordan and still only 3 rings hahahahahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahha
Mike Bolar He only goat to the analytics guy
Michael Jordan came into the league in 1983? ofc lebron has more minutes cause he plays more playoffs games and finals. but I didn't see jordan in the finals or even out the first round until 1990 when pippen joined the team. team... even though
and Lebron didnt win until 7 years after when he begged wade to teach him how to win
Json Ramos yeah but lebron was making it to the finals without wade 😂 Jordan couldn't make it out the first round without pippen
Json Ramos how many times has Jordan lost in the first round without pippen how many times has LeBron lost in the first round without Wade?
I’m not really that into basketball but I come for Shannon and his legoat talk lolol
I can watch them argue all day long😂😂😂 Undisputed>>>First Take
Shannon has the greatest memory EVER!!
Skip and Shannon just going back and forth between all time stats 😂
“ If u don’t minee me askin skieup , can you tell the people at home ... “ 😂😂
Let’s put it this way, he started out as a 18 year old rookie outta high school. Congratulations 🍾 LBJ you’ve worked incredibly hard to get where you are right now, don’t overlook these accomplishments because people wanna hate!! Never Give up!! Keep striving to be the best you can be!
lebrons minutes to jordan just show that one of those guys got blownout in 1st round often
Skip and Shannon make the Jordan and LeBron debate entertaining
10:05 can someone let me know what Shannon just said😂
Sha' Sharpe had a point, LeBron doesn't take pride in being a scorer yet he still pass Kareem. #ThtsGreatness 🏀💯
Man, I'd love to see Skip sporting a black eye on the show. He deserves it.