My Rusty Old Shotgun - J. Woodward
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- We all like value - meaning a gun that isn’t over priced vs the market value. Generally speaking however, if you pay less - you get less!
Here is what I got when I decided to find the cheapest ‘best guns’ I could find.
Enjoy
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Really enjoying the recent content with vintage guns! So much more fun and interesting than modern offerings. Thanks for sharing and appreciating this aspect of the sport!
First class and totally entertaining video. Keep up the good work Jonny, Always educational too.
The gun reminds me of a really good driver Jag XJ6. Old, complete, high mileage, but you can still smell the leather.
in the same boat as not being the average spec (6’4”) but there is something about being adaptable and able to shoot guns that don’t fit. I have a few that for sentimental or historical value I won’t alter.
Woodward was, with Boss, the innovator of the modern O/U and made the best guns I've seen.
I would love to see a video on your opinion of classic American shotgun brands. Brands like A.H. Fox, L.C. Smith and Parker Bros. I think it would be extremely interesting to compare them to the major British makers.
I wanted to be traditional for fun . From your friends at Holts I got a lovely Old Armstrong and had great fun with it . And I look so stylish when I miss. Mark.😂
Totally on my wish list, especially in a condition that will stand using!
Great gun, great vid!
I love taking a SXS out now and again there’s a lot of fun to be had when your breaking everything with a scrapy old gun I’ve a £150 spanish BLNE that’s currently in bozard’s being extended and can’t wait to take it out again in the mean time i’ve started looking for another SxS there’s so many old guns out there but finding a good one at reasonable money is hard without it being as mentioned !
If you like to get it clean and free of old crud. Disassemble the action partly, remove all metal from wood. Find and ultrasonic cleaner, heat up the liquid, submerge all the parts and let it run a few programs - a few hours on total that is. You will be amazed of the result.
A local Dorset Estate blue blood son shot with a pair of Purdey Woodwards.These guns sported a semi pistol grip and were pretty stunning as I recall back then in the late 70's and into the 80's.
Fearless, bold and provocative journalism, gentlemen. I enjoyed a jolly good chortle indeed.
Even on this side of the pond we certainly know what Woodwards are. Personally, if I were to choose from among Woodward, Purdey, Holland and Boss SXS's of the same era, it would be a Woodward for me. O/U it would be Boss, of course. The Woodward arcades on the fences and the integrated engraving sweeping onto the bolsters of Stephen Grants sets them apart.
Oh I just love Sunday with TGS! Nice shotgun
Absolutely.
Like a fine wine, boat or lady they get better with age. That Woodward has plenty of stories to tell. It’s seen a lot of use. Sleeving has given it a new lease of life. A little gentle cleaning to preserve it, and Johny it will last your lifetime and still be good for your children. But use it and lots more stories to it. I have a Jeffery 410 that is in far worse a state, but it is beautiful. But a few knocks and hard wear has just made it more so.
I bought a A Nestor of Limerick circa 1865 . It’s a sidelock hammer side by side 12g . 30 inch Damascus ribbon steel barrels and maybe grade 2 wood . It fits me very well and smokes clays . I got some 12g solid brass cartridges and loaded them with 60 grains of black powder with 36 grams of no4 lead shot and felt like a country gent . Had a few issues spotting the second clay through the smoke though 😂 . Amazingly engineered gun and only cost me £150 from the guy I bought it from running 28g Elect select 7 1/2 steel through it 😣. There was no damage and after a strip , clean and re rust blue on the barrels I feel I can hold my head up at any venue with this gun
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You Sir, are a legend! I now want to mimic your reloads though my own Scott side lever hammer gun!
@@johnreed3576 do it , it’s extreme fun but strange dunking your barrels in water to clean afterwards 😁
Maybe ask Johnny to hook you up with some of the glow in the dark ones 🤣
Lovely gun, Woodward is one of the best of all time. I wanted to ask if you would keep an eye out for my favorite english gunmaker, Hussey. I would love for you to showcase some of their finest, an imperial perhaps. They are an underappreciated maker that your audience may not know much about.
(At the liquor store.)
"May I help you?"
- Yes, I'm looking for your very best vintage champagne. Nothing but the very finest will do.
"Well, we do have a good selection of what you're looking for. For example, here is a..."
- One thing though, I'm only interested in paying cheap beer prices.
"Hmm...."
Can you do a "(not so) Cheap to (not so) charming" on this? It'd be a crime to do nothing to it...
5:20 I love the fashion / style
Top stuff... we are it seems at a point in time were old stuff is cheap and will prove to be an excellent buy. BUT shoot them ... nothing worse that a beauty that is not used..
What is not to like about a Woodward it’s just plain classy
Jonny, here in America this shotgun would cost thousands of dollars. I doubt that we would ever even get one like it here, in the first place. Someday I would certainly love to own one! Thank you for your thoughts on this lovely gun!
Your absolutely right. We get so screwed on shotgun prices.
A local shop tried to sell me an old Spanish SxS that was so bad the thing rattled like a can of bolts and the lock up was toast. He wanted $2700 for it. I voiced my grievances and got the good ol' "I know what I got!"
I feel bad For the person who ends up spending the full whack of $2700 on that gun, genuinely believing they have purchased Spain’s answer to purdey. I feel worse that they may go out into the world and convince similarly ignorant folk that this fallacy is in fact gospel (the fallacy here being that junk is worth money).
Suddenly, the belief system that scrap guns are as valuable as quality ones has spread like a plague. Until finally, after years of gaslighting, I go out and happily spend £6000 on a baikal…
Edit - apologies, long day.
@@tgsoutdoors Good grief! Had to read that twice. I think I understand your point. Many years ago I went pheasant shooting with 4 friends. Though I have a number of guns, I decided to bring a Greener from 1901. Certainly not a top echelon maker but still it just feels right. My friends were surprised and the dog handler was somewhat aghast. He said something to the effect of, "Haven't seen anything quite like that. Do you know what you are doing?"
Told him that I loaded my own 2.5" shells. When I was on target before my friends could shoulder their autoloaders and pumps and my birds were dead on the wing they came to acknowledge the benefits of purposeful design and good execution. They soon "made" me shoot last! Still have that gun.
That’s a surprise, not too many years ago several high end gun shops in the UK would send most of there unsold stock off to US. I always assumed that that the best vintage stuff ended up over the ‘pond’?!?!
@@johnreed3576 The costs to export must be substantial since we see so few quality older British guns over here. Some years ago I heard that our State Dept. complained to the British Gov't. after some guns they allowed to be exported to the US blew up.
In fact our gov't. was acknowledging that we, on the whole, are stupid and know nothing about chamber length, barrel thickness, shell pressures, etc. If we can stuff it unfired into the chamber, we expect the gun to handle the explosion. Often it actually does! Superior Steel is probably a death sentence for the practice of exporting elegant old doubles to the US.
Cz bobwhite G2 12 gauge sxs. Cheap as heck I use for pheasant it’s never failed me . 640$ in the US
Hi Johnny,
Superb video as alway sir !
But to me this is screaming a restoration video on the Horizon ??
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If you can get those in the states that’s the perfect gun for walk up rough shooting ruffed grouse and American woodcock in the Northeast.
Its nice to see someone rescuing diamonds like this in the ruff. Over and unders mostly do nothing for me except high end ones. But side by sides are fascinating no matter what condition they are in. In your opinion what would you expect to pay for a gun of such a high end maker but in such a condition?.
Wish Jonny was at uni with me the guy cracks me up
Remind me to regale you of the old Spanish “Falcon “ SxS I used as a youngster 😂🎉
Love you man, love your content, love what you do for the sport. Now I need you to show me some love and wear some shooting glasses. I’ve seen a lot of weird stuff happen in my 57 years, and it would break my heart to see something happen to you. Just a guy in the States wishing I had access to all these great English sxs’s
Always found it strange seeing a grown man telling another grown man what he should do 🤷🏽♂️
You are never going to find a bad Woodward or Atkin,Grant,Ford.I`ve owned ancient sidelock non ejectors made by London makers and they`re all fine.
That is a delicious old gun and I want one too!!
Delicious mating had me in tears cheers mate 😂
Oh boy, this gun is beautiful! ❤ Shame that delicate shotguns like this one extremely hard to find here in Hungary. And since UK is not anymore part of the EU it must be a headache to acquire one from there to here.🙄
That was a pretty awesome video beautiful gun!!!!!
Wonderful gun, shame its not `Woodward grip stock`...Oh and you need to get out more!!
Both of those statements are true
Quality mate 👌 👏
That gun is a white canvas. Refinishing the stock and fore end with a sort of reddish brown finish, re-blueing the trigger guard and touching up the action and side locks, and of course re-blueing the barrels... that gun would be even more beautiful than it already is. It can be pricey though
I wouldn't do a thing to the gun, its well worn sure, but that wear has a certain beauty to it that refinishing would destroy. The patina on the stocks is what really sells that beauty.
@@jackbriscoe1504 you're right. I have my old Manufrance Robust 222 with the stock full of scratches and the colour case hardening turned into a gray patina. I'm leaving the gun like it is
The way you say wafer thin sounds like your going to explode 🤣🤣
Sorry Jonny, bit late for April 1st. It's a dog. Best you can say for it is it shoots. A decent Woodward - lovely. This ? Nah. 😆
Having just bought yet another SBS this time a mint 1968 Miroku I really need to stop buying🥴
Saving for a house . . . 😢 I know. It happened to me.
Pretty typical, I see that play out a lot the when it comes to handguns for self defense. People want cheap, but they want all the features of something that’s normally two or three times the price they want to pay.
And then complain that’s it’s a pos?
@@tgsoutdoors you read my mind.
Jonny, what is the value of this particular piece of artwork?
Thanks for the 10% of CFG 🙌
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love it , great vid Jonny , i am one of the people who would love a engish london gun that has a bit of history like yours . you failed to tell us how much was it , under 500 under 1000 , when you said not much money i am thinking 100 quid
When he said not much for a london best gun I was thinking less than 10,000... which is probably more reasonable
That could be dangerous information to be in the public domain….
You can tell us... We are all pals on here, we won't snitch on you 😂😂😂
@@jammyjim69 it’s not that, it’s that his wife might find out 🤫
Well I won't tell his wife 😂
In the history of Holland and Holland did the company ever produce horse drawn coaches?
Jonny, I want to buy a nice Baikal side by side but don't want to spend the £50 that its worth.................
Sure you could save one from a scrap bin somewhere
In fact likely someone would Give you £50 to take it
@@tgsoutdoors Thanks Mate, have you got one in stock which you could pay me £50 to take on ? Will give it to Winkle and keep the dosh. Hee.
@@stu748r I've purposely blown up Baikals for Fun 💥
@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 So, they cant be killed by conventional methods alone then.
Was this from the latest Holts auction?
It was not, this was made a little while ago
Where is No.1 of the pair?
A genuine mystery
Are you high? I checked the current prices on these and cheap isn't a word that describes them.
😂 find one in this condition and report back
Put a rubber boot on it , thanks
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The S-word, is it Spanish or is it Sex....
That dug out at Barbury is great. First time I saw it I thought someone had got a bit excited with the digger but shooting driven from it is epic fun!