Shotgun Servicing and Maintenance
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- čas přidán 14. 09. 2022
- The Longthorne was due it’s first service, so I drove it up to the factory to see the experts do it first hand.
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IF the man says its good with that much oil on , and not to use grease , i am taking his advice , after all , he makes the shot gun . great vid well done all .
Never knew!
Gets confusing others recommend grease and no oil Great video
I've been watching this channel for a couple of years now. IMHO, this is the most useful video you've ever posted.
Most practical, but we don't watch TGS for practical. 😂
100% spot on about engine oil working perfectly on shotguns. Spending $10/oz for “gun oil” is a waste of money. If an oil can protect an engine for 10,000 miles, it can lubricate a shotgun!
And most people don't operate their shotguns at nearly the speed that pistons in an engine move.
And it doesn’t have to be just engine oil. ATF makes for a good gun oil as well as it has more detergents and is also engineered to hold particulates. One just needs to decide if a lighter or heavier oil is warranted. What he didn’t consider is that grease comes in different weights and a 0 weight grease (axle grease is a 3 or 4) makes for an excellent firearm protectant and lubricant when you don’t want it to flow like an oil will and need it to stay where it is applied. 0 weight grease is very thin and generally won’t hold particulates like a thick heavy grease will. It’s perfect for guns that are stored more than used and is much better at rust prevention. You just need to give a little thought to what each type will be asked to do and pick something appropriate 👍🏼
Wow, the amount of oil he uses! I had no idea this was used to flush, in addition to lubricating. Brilliant! I could sit at this man's knee like a little pup and learn from his massive, accumulated knowledge all day. A consummate professional!
This was a video on my "ask Jonny to make" list! :D What a great video! I've watched so many videos on cleaning and every one says don't spray inside the action, instead on a cloth and wipe. Then our good man drowns it like a 17th century witch :D
JC, Longthorne, THANKYOU for this video! (JC, still love you cleaning your semi - no pun and with pun)
7:25 I can assure you that the safety catch has been properly exercised on this gun 😄
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Absolutely fascinating and great to see the guys at Longthorne again. Great vid as usual would not expect anything else but total professionalism. Makes me wish now I paid more attention in school so I could have been a gunsmith, Ah well. Might buy an old banger to practice on as a hobby. Cheers peeps!
The glue that holds the rib on he funny 👍👍👍🤣😀
Great inside look at cleaning and the Longthorne. My hat goes off to gunsmiths for the years of learning how these action come together.
Lol. If it took one apart I would be boxing all the bits and pieces (that I didn’t loose) and taking it all to the smith for reassembly.
Thanks for the great video. It really helped me for maintaning my Shotgun. Greetings from South Korea
Today is a learning Day on gun care! Fab video. 👌
I've gained a new respect for all the hidden gubbins inside my gun. Simple but complicated. Amazing machines!
Great practical advices for beginners (and not only). Saving me lot's of time reading all the different opitions all over the net..
The craftsmanship of the parts in your longthorne are incredible! That was beautiful, watching that disassembly.
A LOT more to it that I thought that’s for sure.
Fantastic content as always!!💥💥
Oh yeah! Love watching disassembly videos! I do it my self too! Awesome video!
For me this is the best shooting / shotgun channel on you tube. This video was one of the best very informative. Good cartridges what the best to use? Maybe a video on this in the future and a video on chamber cleaning. Thank you for the video
What a great second ever video to catch to get to know the channel. I just found you guys and subbed the other day. Absolutely beautiful shotgun, thanks man.
Sound advice about using good quality cartridges. I remember buying a thousand Baikal cartridges when they were imported into the U.K. They came in a wooden packing case. I had a B.S.A. Valmet O/U at the time. When I had shot all the Baikal cartridges the gun was really loose in the action. For those who can remember Baikals, they had a very distinctive boom.! I now shoot Hull and R.C. cartridges through my Browning 725 and Longthorne sidelock
As a quick action service a gunsmith once told me this , take the stock off , wash the action thoroughly with brake cleaner or wash in a sonic bath , dry , then drench the action in oil till it's absolutely running off then blast with an airgun from a compressor and that will leave the perfect amount of lubrication on it.
This was from a smith who works on the best Scottish guns .
I've done mine this way for decades and it seems to work fine .
Brilliant seeing the action serviced
amazing knowledge!
You certainly can over-oil a gun. I inherited a pre-War Mauser rifle which was caked in solidified oil which I carefully removed with fine wire wool and WD40. That was simple, but the stock around the action was several shades darker than elsewhere and impregnated with machine oil. I removed that by leaving the rifle in the hot sun over a period of days. The oil literally sweated out of the wood and I periodically mopped it up with kitchen towels. A Purdey shotgun that had been owned by the same person who had owned my rifle was similarly soaked in oil and the stock was effectively rotten with it - it snapped at the wrist when by brother-in-law was using it on a shoot.
He did make the distinction of modern guns when he made the comment.
That would be old mineral or animal oils.. (they used to use blubber from whales a lot back then)
Also old miltary rifle stocks were oiled and waxes constantly by the soldiers to protect them from weather..
They would be made to use hardening oils and beeswax constantly to build up a layer or protection.. (different oils based on country, the Japanese used Tung Oil while others didn't)
And then when stored after a war they were covered in a super thick product like Cosmolyn??(from memory) that kept them rust safe for decades until needed again but that stuff is very hard to remove when they are needed..
Many miltary gun would be sold straight from storage without doing much about the anti rust storage coatings..
More of this content please! I found it very enjoyable and educational.
Interesting point on the oil and grease I don’t think I could bring my self to spray that much oil on a gun though especially on the wood regardless of if it is harmful or not !
If my stock lasts 200 years I'll never know. 😂
@@John-uo1qf most people get a new gun every 3 years that’s 20 guns in a lifetime not worth worrying if a gun lasts any more once the warranty runs out on mine it’ll of shot 70’000 cartridges more then likely 😂
I used to be this way. Ive never worried about it after seeing a collection of MATCH guns from the US Marine, some 80 years old. They way you watch the gunnies clean them you would never know they are close to their age.
Fantastic video Jonny. Wish I had a gunsmith that could strip and clean my shotguns like that.
This is a very ,very spot on tutorial one that everyone should watch. And I'll be watching this one over again.
My older shooting friends use a ole remedy of oils and trans fluid I love oil but never gave a splash here and there let it drain off and wipe common sense.
Good oil Castrol did he say under his breath? Mmmm
remedy
it is the first time i know that some people send their guns to someone to clean it for them... i clean all my guns by myself to the smallest part. it is so fun and make me know my guns better
I’ve been using ballistol for gun cleaning for years. It’s good for the wood and metal.
Brilliant video. Just watching this thinking I wonder how many bits I'd have left over if I stripped it and put it back together 😂
This video shouldn't be demonetized. He's not modifying anything.
Muy buena explicación de como se desarma una over/under, es una información muy buena para mí, ya que yo desarmo armas y este documental tiene muy buenos tips..!! TGS Outdoors gracias por este magnífico y excelente video..!
Great video. Looks like there more moving parts in that over under than a semi auto almost.
I use Mobil 1 Synthetic in my ARs because it is designed for extreme heat. Maybe not needed for an O/U but I like one product for all my stuff
I need to win the Lotto!!!!! that shotgun is so pleasing to the eye it not healthy 🤣🤣😂😂 great video as always!!!! 😍😍😍😍From South Africa🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
Thanks ,great instruction i have Ithaca 600 o/u just start breaking open every time i shoot , any recommendation what causes.
Good information
Thank you for the video. May I ask what exactly does the ejector retainer do? Is it just a small spacer to reduce the wear of the ejector?
Jim's so cool, you can see how he ended up in gun design, he's got a love for the craft and the magic.
When it comes to him storage I always recommend to store muzzle down in a old spray can cap
Wow that’s a lot of parts and pieces I’ll be letting a gunsmith service my over under I had no idea there were that many pieces
Do you have a vedio on disassembly of winchester 9410.?
Would really appreciate it.
Check the fore end latch assembly screws which loosen over time Mine fell out once.
My local gunsmith hates grease so much he won’t even sell it in his shop. He says it’s like a magnet for dirt and everything else and can cause wear on moving parts.
Amsoil has a complete line of oil for firearms. It’s fantastic.
Fascinating video, thanks. What are peoples thoughts on storing guns in the cabinet, is it barrels down or stock down?
Barrels down
Wow, I wish something like this existed for Beretta Shotgun (686), maybe you could find a qualified gunsmith of Berretas? If not in UK then maybe in Italy? You do have connections there from what I saw (factory tour). Anyway, great content, thanks.
Good idea
Search Tim Greenwood. He has a great interview on Beretta 600 series. Complete teardown and re-assembly.
Can you recommend an equivalent oil for those of us across the pond? Legia is not available in the US.
Legia is not available in US, other recommendations?
Lindas armas amigos saludos
I like this guy. I have never seen a need to use an air line on a gun, but if you do, they make canned air.
Did anyone find a product number for this 32 weight Castrol oil he uses?
Well Johnny, you have no excuse for not cleaning your very nice gun now ! 😂.
Great video as always guys 👍
You should know by now, I have every excuse in the world close to hand
@@tgsoutdoors 😂 fair point
I’m sorry, what do you put on the choke? The same kind you put on the what, again?
if you mix oil and grease be careful to ensure the both are chemical compatible...or just by a thinner grease.
Why on earth is the direction of the pin removal different on trigger plate vs receiver?
Awesome video now how about a Browning 725 thanks LOL 😂
I like Ballistol. Do you use it?
All makes sense so I cleaned mine yesterday using the Jim method. Anybody want to by a part used tube of gun grease? One careful owner.
The lubrication method advocated here differs from Johnnys vid on the subject from 5 years ago, when grease was in vogue! "Oiling is a total loss system" - so after a few opens and closes you've totally lost all of your oil..... Where do people go shooting who get all this grit in their guns that will act as "grinding paste"? The beach? an iron foundry? a stonemasons yard?
Thank you for your video, I am Juan, a Cuban from SC USA and I would like to buy a new stock and handguard for my baikalIJ 27, please if you tell me where I can look for them, I would appreciate it.
If you haven't got an air line, would cans of air that used for PC cleaning be ok
Canned air sucks. I bought a nice little compressor on Amazon that is quiet and works great for car tires, bike tires and cleaning guns. California Air Tools CAT-1P1060S
If you're buying a gun like this the, what, £150 for a shitty pancake compressor and a blow gun is a no brainer. Very handy in the garage generally too.
I couldn't bring myself to spray oil over the stock headwork like that regardless if wood safe, thats the last place you need heavy oil soak, plus it's saturating firing pin holes, definately use small smear of good quality grease on mating faces/ bearing faces/ lockup points of contact
Take the stock off first 💡
@@nickbea3443 yeh its a no brainer if you are going to spray several thousand litres of oil on action stock off
Need to get you over to Alan Rhone JC with Ed? Now that I would like to see 😉
Wonderful shotgun…. But almost as complicated as a K80.
Perazzi MX8 and Beretta DT11 really take the cake for the easiest premium guns to own and service!
Every time i clean and strip my beretta i always use a very light oil, grease just holds dirt in my view
Exactly what the gun smith said. Grease turns it into a grounding paste.
What is the can of spray you used on this gun?
Browning Legia
At last, a video presented by a professional and not some smart-ass CZcams clown. Clearly this man knows what type of lubricants and cleaners to use unlike some people that lack any mechanical training.
No Legia in the USA. Why? I’d try it, but I’ll just stay with my old non ch brake cleaner, and good oil then.
Castrol gtx 🙌🙌🙌, far cheaper than gun oil 😊
Drenched
5w-30 synth ;)
Great video. Great work
Do t understand why they just bronze brush the Chambers but not the bores?
A bronze brush is soft so won't damage a steel bore.
Anyone care to explain?
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And EVERY specialty gun oil brand is screaming at the screen right now!
They have their place - but oil is oil!
Can we have a complete strip vid like this of Beretta/Browning/Miroku too please?
Jesus! the airline oilmist with no ear protection!
I have a sneaking suspicion this guy has stocks in Legia.
"We have compressed air and you haven't" Wow he must think other people are living in Stone Age.🤦♂
Just that the majority of folk don’t have a compressor to hand
@@tgsoutdoors some people don’t get English humour Johnny. Very John Cleese. Great vid JC and the crew!
Personally I wouldn't recommend anyone to use a compressor to clean a gun unless you have a water separator on the compressor otherwise you will blow a lot of water in too the action
No problem if you use as much oil as this guy does
Oil bath
I would give him a very heated argument about his statement oil is oil, IT IS NOT!!! just let him try that theory on a modern domestic or industrial sewing machine and he would end up with a pile of junk in a month. Same goes for spring driven mechanical clocks, Yes he builds great guns and I would like to own one but as for his lubrication knowledge it should be back to school.
These are very simple mechanisms so even a products not designed for it won't mess to mix up..
Different with a semi auto etc.. I would guess..
I would not use engine oil as its designed to capture dirt etc.. And carry it for remove by a filter..
Compared to certain other oils designed to not collect dirt etc..
@@zakofrx You completely missed my point. I do not give a shit what oil the old fool puts on his expensive guns, I took exception to him pontificating "Oil is OIL" and any person that drives an automobile will know that. Therefore I gave two examples of common household items that if you put the recommended oil for each on the other you will eventually have a disaster and putting Automotive oil on either will come to the same end.
SO I REPEAT"OIL IS NOT OIL" and that old fool does know better having an engineering background or he is a ring pull short of a can.
Oh dear. Would you do a video on what bears do in the woods next please. I suppose you had to stick something up for contract reasons perhaps, one a month maybe
Bit weird that you want a video of that tbh
Bears 💩 in the woods
He’s just contradicted everything the gun owner and his vest liking mate has said on numerous vids! Confused? You will be! 😂
Great video however I am disappointed they wasn't wearing disposable gloves when cleaning and I especially cringed when he swabbed the chamber with his bare finger and got it caked in crime and lead. Please remember to always wear gloves when cleaning your gun as lead can be absorbed through the skin!
There's one in every crowd. 😂
You're likely going to be demonized very quickly for this video, though I hope to the contrary.
Doesn’t show modification, so - finger’s crossed
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By the standards set in the video, I’ll be going to Hell.
He’s just blowing dirt and oil every where.
don’t take advise from w guy
Stupid action of putting the barrels in a vice... 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Why stupid? The key is to go snug, not gorilla tight. The barrels are tempered. As long as you use soft jaws and just go snug enough to hold them securely they will not be harmed.
This constant obsession with Longthorne is getting very old
This fellow has shot and understands more about o/u's than you, me or anyone else thats out there. The whole process of building that gun has been eye opening. If you do a video about an expert totally breaking down and lubing a shotgun, it might as well be your shotgun.
@@JamesJones-cx5pk that’s not germane to my comment. I believe the viewers are better off with some variety. I bought a langthorne early on before the prices doubled. It’s a good gun but doesn’t do it any better than the other top guns. He promotes langthorne because they pay him to. But I’d like to other London guns, Blaser, K-gun, P-gun
@@ChristanHaller I understand. I still think the 1 year break down video was more to show how to clean and lube rather than to show exactly how a certain gun comes apart. Cheers👍
I don’t know if you know this but Ant has been spamming me on IG for crypto links etc so can you let him know his IG has been hacked and to stop messaging me 😂
I second that.