Fixing LEGO's McLaren MP4/4 mistake: The tire upgrade test
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- čas přidán 22. 02. 2024
- The LEGO Icons 10330 McLaren MP4/4 & Ayrton Senna set is great, offers a nice building experience, but has a major flaw with 4 identical tires. In this video I show you how the set should have looked by using a 3D printed tire.
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I found a 3d model made by someone else that you can try, this is not my model so I don't know how the outcome will look like - www.printables.com/model/801870-realistic-tyres-for-lego-10330-mclaren-senna-formu
That simple change makes it look so much better wow
Why LEGO didn’t make wider rear tires themselves in the first place is beyond me
Because fanboys will buy it anyway.
Two lots of new wheels, two lots of new tyres, twice as much expense on design, prototypes and production costs. Wouldn’t have been worth if for them to do it.
@@johnnytifosi One of the main reasons I'll be getting the CaDA Alfa Romeo F1 car is that unlike Lego F1 sets, the Alfa has wider rear tires, and also Pirelli printed right on tire as a cherry on top. Makes even the slick tires on the upcoming Mercedes F1 car look like crap in comparison.
"OnLy tHe BesT iS gOoD eNoUgH"
@@razorsitch9882 whilst what you say makes some sense... The Ferrari SP3 daytona has staggered rims and tyres, and theyre completely bespoke parts for that set.
It's one thing to say it doesn't work, but this, visually, proves it. Those larger tires look so much better and make a huge visual difference! Thanks for making this video to show your point.
As the biggest tire company, they decided not no make another wider tire for this set…lol
Now it looks like real one. Good job.
Start massive production. 😎
😂
You are spot on in you criticism and this change. Well done. 👍🏻
The issue with the rear tires is this - if they went to the trouble of designing two wheel sizes for this set, that would allow them to easily made more famous F1 car from the 1970-2000s era within the same product line. Seems to me like a win-win solution, they introduce two new fairly universal wheels within one set and said set gets to be much more accurate.
Could have been used for other classic race cars as well, like Le Mans sports prototypes or Can-Am cars.
@@BusaNZ1340 I could totally see a Ford GT40 in the Icons line done like that.
Next year when they do a Ferrari and introduce wide rear tyres we’ll all buy extras to retrofit this model :)
Totally agree
We could’ve had the iconic Red 5 Williams of Mansell to go alongside this McLaren 😢
The wider rear tires definitely look better than all 4 being the same size.
oh mah god that is sooooo much better, i wish i could get the set with that because it is quite literally as perfect as it gets.
Sadly its not possible so im getting the off road buggy since its cheap and has more functions but this set is definitely "iconic".
The set just released so you can still save up for it! Will be out for 2 years probably.
maybe...Do these sets become available on bricklink after getting retired? @@NoahgotLEGO
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They look SOOOOHHHH much better!!
I hope someone makes an aftermarket set of these, perhaps even going so far as to make front and rear and include Goodyear printing lol
I'd buy a set right now if there was a pre-order to fund it.
Same
Awesome result! With these new rear tyres the car looks perfect! Well done!
The tires that you have put on there definitely look a lot better. Might be some modification to be done in the back to make it fit, but this is a good prototype version for now. Thanks for another great review, can’t wait to see your next reviews for the March wave!
The lego model has the correct 6 spoke black wheel pattern that the MP4-4 used, thats pretty cool.
There’s a piece on the Lego website which really goes to town about how accurate they tried to make the car - includes statements like “But like those McLaren engineers responsible for the 1988 original, Ann was determined to capture every tiny detail of this revolutionary design.” and “So how did she go about turning a life-sized car into a perfect miniature replica?” They might have captured a lot of the ‘“tiny” details but perhaps they should have focused more on the big stuff like the rear wheels.
I've been considering buying 2 more of the rear tyre parts; then cutting all of them down using a band saw and heat-welding 2 of them together, to make a wider unit
I felt the same way when I first saw the similar sized tires. I prefer the wider, truer to scale one you modified. Thanks for sharing!
Your modified version looks 100x better. Would love to get those files.
The new rear tyres look fantastic and how I wish Lego had made them in the first place.
Thanks for showing us what could be done.👍👏
Now fix the biggest mistake: The PRICE
No, that’s all the stickers.
@@av_oid How about combining this into "There shouldn't have been stickers for this price. Not for a display model
For this price, they should’ve made it all stickers
@@LeMn680 building a model F1 car out of stickers layer by layer sounds like a “fun” challenge.
A licenced set (to McLaren, Senna Estate and Formula1 don't forget) and new parts. I think the price is about right.
Awesome job. The fans are doing the best work. I like your new tires. Really authentic. Keep up the good work. 😊
Wow when you see the 2 pictures side by side the mod is amazing!!
Much better with the correct tyre sizing, great job
Thank heavens! Thank you. I've been pondering upgrades for the set
Great work. It is the wild to see the writing on the wall of a company to see such cuts in quality and price compared of a metal die cast for the same price
Way better look.
As always, your builds and opinions are greatly appreciated.
IMO this takes the set from a nice to have to a MUST have! great work!
Well done. I really enjoyed your description of the lego decision making process!
Big big difference! Great job.
Rest in peace, Ayrton Senna
I fully agree with you on rear tires. And now I agree even more. Because with wider ones bolide looks just magnitudes better!
It will be great to have an upgrade set with floor , wheels and tires according with your findings . Good job!
The Wider rear wheels + the rear floor change does a lot to make it more closer to the actual look of the MP4/4.
Lego is really getting lazy.Past couple of years their car models are nowhere near as good as used to be,except some of the Technic sets.Agree on the stickers,over £100 all sets should be fully printed.
I hope this video gives your idea more traction.
I think that is a great idea and adds a much needed detail to this set. A lot of performance cars have staggered wheel sizes but has lego ever issued a set with two different wheel sizes or alternate wheels in a kit?
Much better, when someone does tyres as a kit to upgrade Ill be buying them !
It looks so much better. I’ve already preordered but I wish it looked like this.
Great work brother! Looks so much better
I completely agree with you! You did it justice!
Looks fantastic after the fix! 👏
I noticed the tire width issue right when I unboxed mine. If you ever start producing these I would buy them in a second! That fixes the look 100%.
The modification looks way better. Thanks for doing the video
I really love the set as it is, but I can't deny that seeing it with wider wheels makes me like it a whole lot more. I'll be looking to make a similar modification once I get the set :)
I didn't think it looked too bad in original form until I saw how much BETTER it looked with the modified tyres! Nice job
Love it, great mod, I would also make a decal to fix the shape of the front monocoque to add but more red, but the wheel is perfect with your design… hopefully they get made and sold
Much better with your changes! Lego should adopt it
I love the new rear tires, makes the set look much better!
I can't wait to buy them online! It looks soo much better! ❤️
Looks much better with the wider rear tires. Hope someone makes more of them to upgrade and improve this LEGO set.
I honestly was able to look past it until this video. It’s so so much better with the right tires. I wish really wish you’d sell us the file. I want to have this mod done for when the set is delivered to me
In F1 car, expecially when/if the car is a legend itself, the rear wheels MUST be larger than the front wheels. Period. Quite opposite well done LEGO. I placed my (pre)order on day one because it is the Mp4/4 and because well, because is one of the Senna's car and "she" one of the best F1 cars in history with an incredible number of victories.
It's really a shame that for such an iconic and legendary car model they didn't put that little extra effort into creating two different sets of tires for the front and rear.
Enthusiasts have been asking for slick tires for so long that seeing them produced in one size only is truly disheartening.
Unfortunately, even for the new 2024 Mercedes Technic 1:8 the slick tires will be the same front and rear...
F2?
@@ferrari2k typo error, I'm sorry
No, not letting Lego off the hook for this. Its a VERY icon vehicle and is recognizable by even the most casual of race fan. Also its Lego. Were not talking about some knock off/Off brand company, they can afford to develop a part so the build ends up looking the best it can be. If they're going to take the time and effort to put something like the Mp 4/4 together, do it properly. Down to the last brick. Thanks for sharing.
Amazing work, looks better with wider tires
I will probably order this, even with the awful rear wheels! Hope you decide to release the 3D printed wheel files as it sure looks a lot better with them!
I thought having two wheels at the back would be an easy fix, but after seeing the comparison I can understand how its really not
Much prefer your upgrade!! Great work!
WoW! Good Job! I have removed the set from my wish list due to the rear tires.
Thank you very much!
I fully agree with you! It looks so better with wider rims!
When I saw it I felt something was wrong but didn't exactly know what. Now I finally know
That was quick!
It is much better now! I agree 100%!
very good idea ! the result is much better! do you share your stl ?
Well that makes a huge difference, i have ordered the set and its something i might have to look into doing as well. Would it be a cost thing? DO you think if you asked Lego they would give you some feedback as to why they did this?
Great Job, keep up the great content!
Awesome job 👏🏼
Great video, didn't even realise these were same part until just now (only ordered kit online!). I agree 100% that rear tyres should be wider, it's iconic of the formula 1 cars of that area. I hope someone can search up an item even from another toy or model set of any kind so people can have quick and easy replacement/upgrade.
Looks 100x better with your mod, I hope someone starts selling this as a kit
That is a great job!
I love the mod good job on even the rough one
Such a tiny thing, but it changes the look of this model from a kids toy to an authentic replica. Well done on putting in the effort to do this - Certainly if I ever bought this kit, I would be looking for aftermarket rear tyres just so it looked as beautiful as the MP4/4 does.
The wider tires make it look so much more authentic! Good job 😊 When will Lego follow?
It looks considerably better with the modification added. Hopefully someone does a tyre and wheel mod coupled with a Marlboro sticker or printed kit, it will make the car look so much better.
Wide rear wheels looks spot on!
I wish there will be two reviews per day as 1st of March is not far away
Lego should have made the rear tyres wider. Your efforts have worked out well! Cheers
very cool man! i love your vids - when will you do the new speed champions videos
Working on them right now
Looks waaayy better now..
In my opinion, only the print on the front nose part (next to the front windshield) should be running into a triangle, and i think this set is done 👌
100%, you nailed it. My other complaint with this set is that the green and blue stripes on Senna's helmet are not in the correct locations.
alternative brand tires? (maybe from Rastar 92300)
Good job! Concerning the nose cone: Wouldn´t the slightly rounded nose cone used on the 31072 creator F1 car be more accurate or is this part already retired again?
Looks much better, let us know when it goes on sale!
Nice, hopefully someone makes these wider tyres commercially available I’ll buy them
After building the shuttle tanks and boosters you showed, I might have to go this route too. TPU might work?
Aww. If I had room for a 3D printer I would have just found a reason to buy one. I still think the front (the whitish print on red) need improving, but it's getting close.
It really looks great with the modifications! Now all we need is a link to buy the rims and parts 😛
At the start of the video I didn't think it would make that big of a difference. I knew how big the difference entire width was but I still thought it looked fine. But once you showed off the improved rear tires, I was sold. It's clear how big the difference is.
Such an improvement and really highlights the strange appearance of the standard Lego version
I have one of these kits preordered and if/when the wider tires are made by a 3rd party I will definitely be getting them. looks 100x better
I was okay with the 4 same wheels at first, but with the mod it does look a lot better! Maybe I buy it when someone sell these tires...
It's simple LEGO, make 2 proper sizes for F1 cars of this scale, and produce a ton of F1 cars. I guarantee they will sell.
Much better! Share those files man :)
It’s dumb because Lego could easily have amortised the mold cost across maybe three F1 sets. Eg they have the Ferrari license, do a Ferrari and maybe a Williams from that era with the same tyres. Run it in parallel with icons releases as they’re relatively affordable
LEGO got it right in 1986 with #5540. Used 2 tires stacked for front wheels and 3 tires stacked for rear.
I have older formula technic set(8445) from 1999, so I will try use these wheels for rear wheels and wheels from Camaro Z/28 for front wheels. This combo will work good too, if you want use Lego parts. Maybe custom Lego parts in metalic color, example from Chrome Block City.
Soooooo much better. I still think the nose yells "MP4/8," but the big tires really help.
The upgrade makes the model looks so much better.
I’m amazed they didn’t make a wider set of rear slicks for this set given the other new parts the made for this set.
Hi there! Great job for the 4/4. May I know is there any method for removing tires from wheels?
Looks so much better! I still don’t like the gray pieces on the wheels though. I took those off of mine and painted the axle tips black.