The 2024 Ford Mustang Mach E Rally Is The One I Wish I'd Bought...
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- čas přidán 20. 08. 2024
- This is the Mach E I would have bought, had it existed at the time. And I might not have let it go... Clearly after I swapped the wheels of course. Now, why is that? Well, because the Rally isn't just the ultimate Mach E, it fixes almost all the quibbles I had with my Mach E. It has a heat pump, insane 0-60 times, faster DC charging, adaptive dampers, an extra inch of clearance, and fog lights! I mean, rally lights...
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As a Vegas local, not having a glass roof option is such a winner in my book. Cooler cabin and a quieter cabin is something I’d much rather have!
It seems like a lot of the opinion about glass roofs is based on the local climate. -Travis
@@AAutoBuyersGuide absolutely, and seeing as how much AC can impact range in EVs, it’s certainly within a manufacturer’s best interests to keep the cabin’s temperature as stable as possible.
I agree, as a Vegas local, I like the idea of no glass roof (although I do love it) but I wish they would use a lighter color material on the inside roof to create a more open feel.
Also how much time does the average driver spend looking through the glass roof? Glass roofs are the worst way to throw money away on options: extra cost, significantly less headroom, and the greenhouse effect Second worst way to option out a car is big wheels which cost extra, have a negative effect on EV efficiency, and cost more to replace the tires.
Y'all crazy. The rally wheels are dope! Throw back to the group b cars of the 80s.
Agreed. -Travis
Maybe in black, or color matched to the cars body paint I could live with it… otherwise I looks like my brand new car needed replacement wheels and I cheaped out lol.
Personally, I think the wheel should've been smaller with a thicker sidewall tire (would help with comfort as well). I think these 80s-style wheels look better when smaller and not oversized like these are.
@@reggie132 That's a fair point. I agree
I love those wheels!
Those wheels are amazing!
This car is growing on me.
it shouldn't. Its still a FORD. The touchscreen is still laggy, that itself would trigger many!
Wait until you see a turtle icon on your dashboard. My Ford dealer spent 11 weeks to repair my Mach-E's dead batteries, resulting in a full refund from Ford.
I love the white wheels!
Like the rally edition!! I think wheels are awesome and so is the wing
They will speak to some and turn others away. -Travis
Rally footage was great.. glad kept watching
They brought back the driver display animation and style that only has the speed in the middle. I can't wait for the update to bring that back to my Mustang Mach-E.
I think those wheels (and spoiler to a certain extent) look great! We need more unique looking wheels like that
I really want a GT, but this rally looks really great - and I would consider it for sure!
Once the battery is upgraded Im all in
Based on the Bronco Everglades, Paint those wheels matte black, with the black rally stripes on an erruption green, Keep the wing for me, BUt painted black wheels would FIt so good for outdoor car with green paint! I do think on a WHite or SIlver Mach E, white wheels fit! Would be SO EASY to paint wheels black, thoguh! I think I may be sold on this (I was looking at Premium AWD, though I wanted Magna suspension, and GT because a choice when Range was increased, dont' NEED performance pack if suspension is included, but... It is cheap. Rally, with higher suspension, Magna suspension (I have elderly parents who would benefit from that) and being a HUGE WOrld Rally Fan, this is TOTALLY inspired by Ford Focus RS WRC that competed in WOrld Rally Championship). I did like Roof, but I live in Utah (a desert), so I would have needed either a cover, or way to close it (ROne reason I got Ioniq 5 Limited, since you can close the roof, but it is nice to have when its not hot) There is a Reason you kept thinking of FOcus RS, though, It was based ont eh RS WRC car!
THe possition of the Park is a valid point, However, if you buy this as a daily driver, it will become habit, you won't think abou tit, unless you have another car like a Kia EV6 which has the rotary shifter, but it works in a different way with amiddle park button, then twist one way to reverse, another way to drive, but unless you daily drive a car like that, and have Mach-E as family/weekend car (lets say, you take a rally for weekend fun) you'll be okay. Even then not a big issue.
Alex, I will take the white wheels and you can keep the Mock E. 😛😛
I like the wheels to be honest :D
I am seriously considering one in blue, I love the Batwing, Stormtrooper seats and group B rally wheels. I am just worried about the reliability, quality and safety due to Fords history. I would like more ground clearance, but hey! it can't be perfect? so I will check it out when I can get my hands on it.
I hate the wheels too. Rally is not only dirt/gravel and chances are the majority of the Mach E Rallys will NEVER go on dirt roads. Personally, I would take inspiration from the Puma Rally1s as seen in tarmac setup.
Ford needs to price all Machs more competitively. Not nickel and dime us. Still wish they would change the center screen. Door frames are too small for taller drivers cause of where battery sits.
Damn this rally video was so cool, scared the crap out of me a few times lol
No heat pump in Canada is not good ! We have cold winter so the mach e it's not for me. What a shame !
Love the wheels!
This looks good in That green color, BUT, White or Grabber blue are the colors to go... Maybe the vapor blue, or SIlver. But silver or WHite go best with white wheels & fog lights. Grabber & Green work too! Tempting option. Whats the Range on this?
The only thing wrong with those wheels is the size. They should be much much smaller. 16 inch max with huge sidewalls.
The days of 16 inch wheels are long past. -Travis
The front discs on the Mach E are 15.5". The smallest rim they clear is 19".
@@Moocowsia sounds like they need smaller discs to me. Don’t electric cars pretty much brake with the motors anyways?
@@dylanfgarrison It's a 2.5 tonne car with 480 hp I'm happy to have more stopping power than less. I don't use the brakes all that often on my GT, but when you need them they work like a hot damn.
You still need the discs for emergency stops.
If you have a full battery you can no longer use regenerative braking. So let's say you live on a mountain and are driving down into the valley you could start with a full battery and any energy used getting started could quickly be regenerated on the downhill. After that you need enough mechanical brakes to stay safe.
Disagree on the GT Performance upgrade. We should not make paid software performance upgrades an ok thing. Hardware changes I understand but not locked behind a software paywall.
I think we’ll all wait until NACS and the heat pump are standard.
No word on either of those features as of yet. -Travis
Exactly. That will probably happen in the 26 model years, so Ford (and the others) will continue to lose billions from lack of sales by prudent customers smart and patient enough to wait for NACS
@@AAutoBuyersGuide The vid description says this vehicle has a heat pump (as we know it does not).
Model Y Washington resident here!! Glad you enjoyed the shower
It was a PNW welcome! -Travis
FORD....DON'T MAKE MISTAKE OF OTHER OEMS. PEOPLE ARE STILL REELING FROM HIDDEN PARTS TO MAKE MAINTENANCE HARDER - BUT...Don't do as some Japanese Companies putting sensors under a logo smack in front center of a Bumper. No sensors on front or rear bumpers. And no modules on windshields that can go haywire in hot weather like LDA and Collision Control - the Christmas Tree Lights make people go looney
Confused about heat pump; description above states the Rally HAS a heat pump but video states that there is NO heat pump so that front trunk volume is preserved. Which is it?
Wheels are cool
This might win me over vs the EV6 I've been looking at to replace my Kia Stinger GT2 AWD.
What's the point of getting the extended range if only recommend to charge to 80%?! Also if the batter is going to degrade over time it'll eventually get to 80% anyway right? So why not just charge it fully and take advantage of the full range for years until it finally degrades that much. Maybe I'm missing something here?
9:27 this is really interesting given Polestar and new sync both run on Android Automotive.
Woo hoo!!! Happy to see this review! 😊
I'm seeing Mach E's with less than 30k miles for literally half the price of a new one. Literally wait two years and get one used. I can't believe anybody would buy one of these money pits new off the lot.
Don't forget about the EV tax credit, that skews the new, effective price when comparing to the used price. -Travis
Decent looking EV but only one inch additional ground clearance for the Rally version, still too low for off-road.
Y’all are definitely disconnected from Rally. Those wheels have a legacy look to it. The old escorts, focus’, etc all had white wheels. This is by far my favorite trim and is well suited for Utah urban and back roads.
Ford website says with AWD its 230mile range with smaller battery and 300 with larger battery. So if you only charge larger battery to 80% is it worth it?
~80% is recommended for daily charging, if you're taking a trip and need more range go ahead and charge it to full. -Travis
As a day to day commuter to work, more than likely not worth the larger battery. I can only see the larger battery being helpful if you need that extra 70 miles for larger distances (especially if you know you need the distance).
I think there are other apples and oranges involved. I did a quick look but didn't see the kW of each battery type (old vs new). The new ones could be larger kW so %80 isn't as different. The new battery can also accept faster DC charging. It weighs more, is cheaper, does worse in the cold, but may last longer.. so, lots of factors to consider.
My Mach-E Premium Extended Range gave me 280-290 miles in the summer, but only 180~190 in the winter of Northern Alabama. Not sure about other colder areas in the winter.
THe WING & WHeels are stright out of teh Legendary Ford Focus RS WRC (WOrld Rally Car) that competed in the FIA World Rally Championship.
ON this car, NEVER charge extended range battery over 80%! its takes an extra hour plus, so get to 80 (and I've seen 10% to 80% in 35min IRL), so leave at 80 or before!
You guys need to give at least EPA range on these cars. I don't think I even saw you (granted, all these car hasve a over 250, I think 270 on GT? Not sure what rally is and I could go to Ford's website or other palces to find, but you should give range.
Tbh the Mach-E overall got forgotten so quickly. It’s a shame cus it’s a beautiful car.
Alex has been all over the country that last few days. Perhaps over the next 6 months Ford can sell its remaining 2022 Mach E's. Maybe.
Does it still have 3 suspension settings? Which is softest?
Wheel design is cool. Wheel color? Not so much.
I'd rather have the wheels in a satin or satin bronze finish.
Why do higher end trims have lower range??
Interesting how a bunch of videos that drop at the same time somehow get "Focus RS vibes" from a big electric crossover with no similarities. Hey Ford, how ya doin?
Does NOT have a heat pump. No NACS either.
Correct. -Travis
A lot of the knobs and buttons are the same as the Maverick.
Save your money you can't even use it on the golf course. Mustang in name only.
The wheels are actually way too cool for this car.
There a hitch option (mostly for a bike rack)?
I would change the color of those wheels.
That's easy enough to do. -Travis
6:20 Does the heat pump matter for those in tropical climates? Or is it only important for those that get winter?
It's going to be the most beneficial for folks in cooler climate. -Travis
@@AAutoBuyersGuide thanks Travis! Now I know that I will not be missing out on anything if I don’t have a heat pump.
The profile of the wheels are absurd. The trend needs to change.
Fyi..No other Mach-E has fog lights
Model anything Tesla lies on range and is never exceeding what is stated
If you live in a place where it get cold (or hot), think long and hard about any EV that does not have a heat pump. Ugly wheels can be swapped I guess if they bother you, but losing up to 1/2 your range on a (very) cold winter day, vs maybe 1/4 is a REAL deal breaker:-)
You're right about the heat pump but very cold means, basically, freezing cold before you'll see that much loss in range. -Travis
Even without a heat pump the real world range loss isn’t 50% even at freezing. Snow on the road has a bigger impact than the temperature
@@AAutoBuyersGuide for the Record, I said As much as /Up to 50%. And yes, it does have to be "freezing cold" for this. From about Chicago North (which includes all of Canada and Michigan and so on- PS, I live in Canada:-) Freezing Cold is a normal Winter condition. If I lived in California as our reviewer (full disclosure, I really like this sites reviews and opinions) not only could I consider a non-heat pump EV (Still probably would not buy) but I could even buy a RWD and be even more efficient!
Even at zero degrees I don’t lose half the range. The lowest I’ve had at zero is 183 miles out of 270.
The latest model Y rwd should beat this in a range test
How you know this
@@bigdi77 rwd has more range less weight.
This is AWD performance model... so DUH! but probably not.
They should have left the mustang name off. Mach E was fine.
Deja Vu?
the hyundai ioniq n is the superior vehicle, this mustang mache is overpriced in comparison
This is less expensive and more daily driver friendly than the Ioniq 5N. -Travis
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Thank you Travis, i encourage your team to make a direct comparison video of the two models!
Those wheels are a deal breaker!!!!
The 'Mustang' badging is ridiculous.....You say Mustang and NO ONE thinks of this vehicle. Ford....just cut it out....call it the Mach E, that's it.
that screen is ridiculous
Dafuq is up with those grill lights
Rally lights. -Travis
Car looks dated and not in a retro way..
Evs are only good for people keeping their cars like one year. If you want to KEEP your car , get a gas car.
Then why don't you? Life is way too short to live with regret.
Garbage. These (at least the former versions) sit like headstones in a crowded cemetery on dealer lots. Cost of ownership in California is about ready to skyrocket for EV owners. Pass.
You people keep saying this but every ford dealer near me sells them as soon as they come in
The sales numbers suggest you’re wrong. The price point was the issue. Now they’re moving.
Only Ford could get a car to go zero to sixty in 3.3 seconds. and still be uninteresting.
I wouldn't call this uninteresting in the slightest. -Travis
@AAutoBuyersGuide I enjoyed your review but i disagree. .
I'm not inspired to run out and buy it. It's fast under 4 seconds to 60 and less than 60k.
That is how boring this is,
Decent speed, solid value and a hard pass for me.
how Mach money ford will lose on this car.
Very Mach
I don't keep up with sales numbers but apparently they're selling a lot of them. And with Chevy only releasing the top trim (95k) of their EV Silverado first, they will continue to sell Lightnings as well. They might start making a profit on their EVs sooner than I thought. The EV Ram will prob be the big competitor.
Not a Fan
No FSD, no bueno
Why?
one of the worst selling cars in america