Ford Mach-E 2 Year Long Term Ownership Update + Road Trip!
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After driving the Ford Mustang Mach-E press car in January 2021, we immediately knew that in most of the ways that mattered, Ford had seemingly built a better Tesla. So Matt bought one for himself and his wife. Now, two years and 17,000 miles later, Zack and Matt take a road trip to Arizona to discuss the ups and downs of 2 years of Mach-E ownership, as well as demonstrate the charge network (and see some awesome stand--up comedy).
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Ford Mach-E 2 Year Long Term Ownership Update + Road Trip!
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The audio gets out of sync around 14 minutes but is fixed about a minute later. It's fine in the project file so something happened during export or CZcams processing *shrug*. Sorry!
To learn how to charge more efficiently on road trips follow Bjorn Nyland (especially his 1,000 km challenge series) and Tom Moloughney on this site. Short answer: arrive at charger with less 'in the tank' and leave with just enough to get to the next charger. (and don't block 350 chargers w/ a car that can only take 150)
@@Miata822 Lol...this charger ain't going to 350...if you're going plug something, start by plugging in some headphones?
Audio gets out of sync again around 18 minutes again.
It only seemed to get out of sync at the two chargers as if they were toying with you... yet here I was changing browser settings.
It happens and boy did that happen in the best spot. Because you are right, range is masking another problem with the EV discussion and that is infrastructure and maintenance. That is a hard ass topic at the best of times because I am a 90's boy and all these gas stations just exist, there was a time where that wasn't the case and EV's are at that starting point, which doesn't help when one maker uses a proprietary plug for its charging network but that is another topic.
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Totally sold me on this electric mustang. Plus! It's a mustang! How sporty and utilitarian! No cylinders > 3 cylinders!
Nice, but the audio sync is messed up.
A cheap tesla3 fixes the TWO problems mentioned in this video.
Autopilot + charging network.
At $32k cpo (and depreciating) its hard to beat for an errand boring daily driver.
I also agree they should never be referred to as “M3” or “Mustang”
I'm liking the fact that you guys are trying different formats to keep content fresh. I like this as well as the Type R vs. GR Corolla video.
Enjoyed this format and shared it . Keep it up Matt. LMK if I can borrow that charger at WCCS sometime. I’m right up the street lol
I love this return to old-school TST form, I hope the investment starts to pay off again soon
Investment?
@@andrewbaskett8581 time is literally money on CZcams
@@andrewbaskett8581 higher production cost.
I was thinking the same thing. A clear, concise and informative delivery goes a long way!
@@andrewbaskett8581 Of time and effort.
This is definitely your strongest format. You might have been too early in the past but this is definitely the new way to go.
Ive missed Matt doing this format so much. This is how I knew him as a teenager in the late 2000s, sadly things changed around 2013 and he had to quit with the film making. Like you said, He may have just been too ahead of his time, or maybe the pendulum has just swung back in our favor.
I'm liking this format. I know you guys said on the podcast that it isn't bringing in the dollars you'd like, so here's me doing my part to up your engagement numbers. The storytelling aspect is great, makes a nice compliment to the free-flowing nature of a podcast discussion. BTW "Totally logitech" took me by surprise and made me laugh out loud. Cheers.
You're 100% correct that if you have a non-Tesla EV relying on the CCS network, it's charging anxiety. I'm not even going to say infrastructure anxiety, because even if the infrastructure is 100%, you still have to deal with people at the charger. Be that lines, people done and not moving their car, using the wrong charging apparatus (i need 350kW because it's fast...even though my car can only charge at 150kW max), etc.
Thanks for the full review of your car.
"using the wrong charging apparatus (i need 350kW because it's fast...even though my car can only charge at 150kW max)". Yes Matt, this. mach-e should never be blocking a 350kW dispenser.
Some feedback on this format: The dry-cut to ad reads worked fine on the One Takes, but with this more produced format feel a little abrupt. I think adding a little "pause" before, like maybe a fade to black between the intro and the sponsored segment, will do wonders in smoothing out that transition. Loving the content!
Not a bad idea, it can be a bit jarring
I think the Linus tech tips method of 'but first, this segway to our sponsor" works great. But I agree, the hard cut works perfectly fine in one takes.
@@lowstrife ltt was the first thing I thought of. Didn't expect to see that suggestion here
The audacity is never in short supply on this here internet 😆 1.5 subs vs 44 now GET
@@whoaskedforthisbs Huh? It's constructive feedback from the audience which I'm sure TST appreciates. By no means a demand. Grow up lol
Infrastructure Anxiety is 100% spot on. I had a 300k trip in a Nissan Leaf which turned into a total disaster. Chargers missing from where they should be, chargers vandalised or not working, it was a total nightmare and has put me off switching until Ireland has a reliable charger network.
Just wait till people who hook up and go shopping for the rest of the day......lol
People used to be so idiotic about charging ports. When they started putting them in Texas, grown men were destroying the ports and laughing about it because they thought EVs were lame.
I’ve been on the fence about getting one, but I’m really leaning toward getting a used Mach E this year.
I’ve been watching TST since the beginning and I love the return of this style of video, it might not be as profitable but the true OG fans love it
As a Ford sales consultant... the window issue is very easy to reprogram yourself. Just hold the button until it stops at the top, then release and hold it again for 5 seconds. Then repeat the same process going down. It trains the motor to recognize what fully closed and fully open are.
The one touch window function is not an EV issue. Have it on my IE mustang with the same issue. Takes 30 seconds to fix.
@@mikev3518 never said it was.
Mach-e looks great, how are people liking it from your perspective?
As a viewer from the early days of this channel and Garage 419. I'm so glad to see the long form content back. This is what I know you for. Not saying the one takes werent good, they are. But this stuff is my favorite stuff you do. Its absence was greatly missed.
As a long time fan I enjoy this long form/story content and the one takes equally! I understand YT is a business so whatever you guys decide to proceed with, I'll be watching! Thanks for making great car content for so long.
One thing I'll add is that living in the middle of the northeast conurban sprawl, the charging network is not bad. And the Ford plug and charge system has worked more or less flawlessly the few times I've used it with EA but with a couple hiccups with EVGo and Blink. Like Matt we do 90+% of our charging at home.
The supercharger network is where Tesla is still so far ahead. A Mach-E with the Tesla Supercharger reliability would be fantastic.
Just the super charger network? What about the software etc
With the muscles of your thumbnail’s picture, he could crank his own power!
Drives back & forth from northern to southern Calif show that Ford’s charging network is FAR superior to Teslas.. hours loooong lines for the teslas. No wait for Ford’s Electrify America super chargers & level 2 chargers
Great video, Matt! I always enjoy long-term reviews like these because you get the kind of info that is truly useful if you are looking to own the vehicle in question. I'm glad to hear it's held up pretty well, though I am surprised by the buttons rubbing off. Probably some kind of supplier issue that hopefully has been improved. Shame about the chargers, but we all know how that goes...I do wonder how long it will take for the charging network to become as reliable as putting gas in a gas tank.
Much prefer this format. Very obvious that the more lengthy editing process permits you guys to be painstaking/precise with your choices in presentation (though it makes stuff like the audio sync problem even more frustrating).
The most significant part of this video is the intellectual leap from 'range anxiety' to 'infrastructure anxiety.' Matt is absolutely correct about this and the enthusiast community needs to push that message.
Great video!
Really enjoyed this and it is great to see more about the infrastructure requirements/charging part of the ownership experience
man these narrations give such an Anthony Bourdain vibe, loving it
It would be fun to watch this during a rain storm !
Good, thoughtful, informative, fair review. Also an owner, wife got a premium in July 2021 and i got a base GT in Jan 2022.
Just bought a 22 AWD on my channel & enjoying it more than I thought!
Great watch. One thing - I noticed an audio/video de-sync start around 13:30 and get real bad by close to 15mins. Not sure what happened there, but great informative video otherwise!
Hmmm good catch. That is really weird considering this is a shot/audio from an iphone where it should be synced automatically.
I second this
A couple of CZcams videos I've watched today have done this later in the video, I think it's a CZcams problem.
Great video and editing! Love the combination of IRL and VO commentary.
I really like this format - great video! Thanks for sharing.
"I pulled my neck while cooking dinner"...Damn, Zack is a pretty intense cook 😆
BAM
I loved your point about “infrastructure anxiety”. It’s the number one thing I’m researching. I want and EV but I’m terrified that I’ll be caught in some kind of nightmare trying to find a charger that works.
For all their faults, this is something I never worry about in Teslas. I’ve never had issues supercharging Teslas on road-trips.
Yes, that's the best way to put it. It's not about range, it's about charge access (both finding them and time/availability when you do).
I'm looking at a Mach-E as a possible right now, and very much impressed with the vehicle. I'm just not sure if a pure EV works for my lifestyle.
Voiceover game is on point. The additional information is helpful, I'd welcome more of it in your videos.
Matt, I'm 7 months and 6000 miles into my 2022 Mach-E GT ownership. I use CarPlay with a cable, and the only issue I've had has been occasionally needing to manually trigger the connection from the Phone menu. I also haven't had the same issue with emergency braking. Not doubting your experience, just adding a bit of anecdata. I have yet to take mine on a road trip where I've needed public charging, but since my roadtrips will generally be in the Boston-Washington corridor, I don't expect problems.
Thank you for the detailed ownership report. Use it in continued good health!
Matt I felt this one on many levels... I own a 2022 VW ID4 and had put 21K miles on it in 7 months. I totally agree with 10/10 with the infrastructure issues. Luckily I do the majority of my driving in and around Baltimore as well as up and down the i95 corridor and don't have as many EA charger issues.
How do you put on 21k miles in 7 months (unless you are a traveling salesman?) My 5 year old F150 which I bought in Maryland btw, has 26,000 miles on it. I can't even imagine the nightmare of driving 12k miles a year never mind 35-40k. (I assume from 21k in 7 months) especially in that area. I95 can be 95 mph or it can be gridlock traffic.
Thank you for the great video. I really appreciated how you separated range anxiety and infrastructure anxiety despite the best efforts of Electrify America. The pacing around at the charging station was a great way to show how lame the charging time can be in real life on a out-of-town trip even with a well planned route. Meanwhile there was a shot of the ICE cars smoking you time-wise even though you were speeding excessively. You just hook your ICE to the pump, go into the gas station to do #1, and come back to a fully fueled ICE car and go while you laugh at the Teslas stuck at the charging stations. EVs are for home charging and driving around the city.
first time watching this channel, but this video was super informative! I've been really curious about the charging experience for EVs, and I'm really glad I watched this.
Really good review. Always appreciate the sense of humor.
Zack is 40?! Wow, good for him. Must be some good genetics and clean living.
Hey, quick tip from own Mach E ownership experience (22 AWD extended range). If you find an EA station with a 350 charger that has the reduced power screen, but there are 150’s available - take the 150. I started on the 350 with roughly the same state of charge as you, and was getting about 80kWh - then switched to a 150 station after a few minutes. Rate shot up to 120kWh for a while. Was glad I swapped.
Thanks for the video! Loved it.
Also, he doesn't need the 350 cuz the Mach E maxes out at 150.
And he shouldn't be charging at a limited station with over a hundred miles of range until 86% 😂
That's a really good review, very informative! Fantastic work!
I really like to new format, I think it brings the feel of your videos upto date and makes them more premium in feel.
I’m rather impressed with 16k miles in two years given your range of cars you and your wife can choose from and general commute distance. That’s impressive.
It's not perfect, but we love ours. I'm definitely glad we chose the Mach-E over other options. We've done several road trips and it has been fantastic.
This was a good retrospective and road trip experience. There really isn't much content out there of RWD ERs so it was cool to see. Matt's road trip needs pretty much mirror my own in as much as I don't usually do more than 200 miles at a time. His recommendation at the end was spot on: Get the car you want. He'd get the MME again.
We have 43,000 miles on our Mach E , and 24,000 miles on our model 3. Both are a little over 2 years old. The Mach e has become our preferred vehicle. We love it.
@@irfanhusein1445 67,000 miles in 2 years? Do you live on earth and work on the moon?
@@Cruor34 my wife has a 110 mile work commute and we road trip a lot. It adds up. FYI just got back from a 4400 mile road trip visiting Yosemite NP , Olympic NP Victoria, Vancouver, Whistler, Jasper NP, Banff NP and Yellowstone NP.
Life’s good!
@@irfanhusein1445 Ok I do not intend this to be mean but how does she tolerate a 110 mile commute? I would actually choose death before that. I can't even imagine the agony. My commute is 13 miles and I am getting grey hair over it. People texting while driving, driving slow in the passing lane, cutting me off THEN going slower than I was going, eating and doing makeup while driving, taking too long to go when the light goes green and accelerating at the pace of sap moving down a tree. Its a nightmare. Why not just move closer to work? I am as close as I can get, I work on a base surrounded by farm land, but the road to and from is horrible.
The road trip I could do, but daily commute is horrible. I liked driving through New Mexico at 3 am, was just 90+ mph the whole way through a desert no police no other drivers. Just me and the full moon. Thats ok, but East coast/west coast driving is a nightmare.
This is a great video! Loved the format guys, keep it up
Love this type of video format from you!!!
Would it be faster to drive the speed you won’t and not need to charge as much?
Some audio sync issues between 13:30 and 15:30 just fyi. Doesn't really impact the video but thought id mention it in case you can fix it easily. Great review!
Loved the video especially because I’m from Phoenix. I absolutely love this video format. Please keep it up, the views will double
This format is very entertaining. Please do more of these👍🏼
Awesome to see you were rocking the two bears podcast on your way to see the machine.
For all of Tesla‘s issues, the fact that they focused on and built out their own charging net work, because they didn’t want to rely on someone else doing it for them is forever their own advantage. Their prices are way cheaper than all the other charging companies, I can’t believe that some of those charge more than it would cost to fill up a tank of gas. And I cannot tell you the struggle that I’ve had showing neighbors on the new Volkswagen ID4 how to charge their car - and so many of the Chargers are out of service, don’t charge anywhere near the advertised rate or you can’t get it to work/pay
They were very heavily subsidized and given opportunities by the American government that other Brands could not avail of. Elon is a master of "convincing" and/or political chess behind the scenes to get what he wants without actually paying for it. Exactly what a Con does best. I personally do not like a infrastructure that only caters to one brand. If gas stations did this, it would have hindered ICE considerably. Tesla isn't very good at building cars, and that is evident within 5 mins of driving one. But they do have the infrastructure nailed down and if they were to focus on that, the one thing they really are good at, they wouldn't even need to sell cars.
You hit the nail on the head, it’s infrastructure anxiety.
Just wanna thank you because I was going to buy this vehicle back in 2021 and I remember watching your videos and it swayed me against it. What I thought then still holds true. This car and EVs in general, require a certain lifestyle which they can fit well in. That isn't my life because I do a ton of long distance travel and charging scared the heck outta me... as you so eloquently explained... it's an infrastructure problem and the vendors have to step it up. Thanks for all of your work on this Matt!
Great video. I LOVE legit, honest long-term reviews. With respect to Carplay, I have 3 cars, all different makes, and all with Wireless Carplay. All three have intermittent problems, some more aggravating than others. My BMW (my daily) is probably the worst offender while my 2022 F-150 has been reasonably solid. I have noticed that when I migrated to the iPhone 14, those problems did not abate. In fact, they feel like they've actually worsened. I would be curious if Android users have had problems with Android Auto. I'm beginning to believe it could be a problem w/iPhone internals more than anything else.
Great video Matt! One major gripe though. As a Taycan owner, there’s nothing worse than pulling up to a charging station when multiple 150kw chargers are free and there’s a Mach-E (which tops out at 150kw) or an iD4 (which also tops out of 150kw) taking up one of or both of the 350kw chargers. PLEASE, I beg, EV owners out there- you need to know the charging profiles of your cars so you don’t inconvenience others. It’s not as cut-and-dry as a gas station.
Agreed! .. and especially, 50KW max Bolts, and also VW id.4 charging up to 100% on free charging... use the slow chargers, for the benefit of others! (curious, if the slow 80kw first charge stop, might have gone faster on the 150kw stall if existed?)
It wouldn’t, but I also think 80kW was what the car requested.
Yes, it's very frustrating with people like this CZcamsr who doesn't even understand that he doesn't benefit from a 350kw charger and that the 80kw he is charging at is due to his battery, not the EA charger!
You guys kill at this format, well done.
Loved the format of this video. Great review.
Whats crazy to me, is that chargers never have a roof to protect you if its raining. All gas pumps do.
Because its sunshiney day😂
Should have solar panels and lights set-up above...
The 81kw is not necessarily due to EA throttling....since you are charging your battery at 40% SOC, more than likely the 81kw is due to the Mach E programming preventing too much juice from getting to the battery and overheating/hurting it. EVs like these have a pre-determined charge curve algorithm to maintain battery health.
💯 agree with your comment.
People need to understand the charging curve of their EVs.
Overall a Very good video. 👍👍
@@stuck1n80s exactly on all counts
i’m glad TST is exploring some archived formats i hope it make it into semi regular appearance
Love the old format coming back Matt! Hopefully the #s work out!
Fun video .... Just one tip on the CarPlay issues: Ford appears to have fixed these bugs with the latest UX update it looks like you just received. CarPlay launches much more reliably after the 4.1.x OTA. I found no issues after unpairing phone and car and then re-pairing CarPlay with the new UX. Prior to the new UX (the one with the "home" button in the upper left) CarPlay connectivity could be flaky, and sometimes it would find one phone and not another one.
Wondering if it is something due to being an early batch?
@@ryandoyle4344 I don't think so -- CarPlay connectivity bugs were known issues with the Power Up 3.5.x software OTA updates -- Ford seems to have fixed them with the 4.x updates, but I found they require you to unpair / repair your phone to work reliably
@@ev_kimchi The latest UX update has not solved the issue, but thanks!
@@TheSmokingTire bummer, mine's been solid recently. when it was misbehaving, rebooting the system got it working again (hold vol down + top fwd seek button that's pealed off on your steering wheel for 10 sec) -- of course you shouldn't have to do this, but maybe your earlier build than mine has a part in this one
Great review. For comparison, I do a ~780 mile round trip every few months with my Model Y and its essentially boring. No range anxiety, no infrastructure or charger anxiety. It all just works perfectly every time. I'm a huge EV fan in general and want all the OEMs to succeed. But there is no denying how much better the supercharger network is in the current EV landscape.
Glad somebody is saying this. I try not to be a Tesla fanboy, but I just don't have these problems with Tesla. Now build quality on the other hand...
This entire video was one big ad for the company that shall not be named. They couldn't have paid for a better ringing endorsement of the vastly superior Supercharger network and Autopilot.
I really liked this video, funny and informative. Nice one guys!
So nice to see this long term review! A nice and intriguing contrast!
Really enjoyed this review, loved the highlighting of how much of a joke Electrify America is.
If all these electric cars are soulless appliances for commuting and to serve a utilitarian purpose, I would 1000% get a tesla on the basis of charging infrastructure and quality alone. I drive a 328d touring and can add 1000 km of range in sub 5 min, this would be infuriating.
Definitely enjoying this format! However I also enjoy the one take format as well. If it’s possible to include a mix of both formats I think that would really make your audience happy. One thing I wish was included in the one takes was a POV view showing the steering wheel. Would make it truly feel like the audience was along for the ride
Really liked this video format!
I'd be curious to see a comparison to the Model Y
This guy is known to hate and bash Tesla. It would be hard to imagine seeing a Model Y comparison video without him being biased.
Thanks for this video. My girl has been looking at EV's but I think this video finally talked her out of it (thankfully) 🤞🏻
very useful info, presented straight up. No complaints, Thanks!
Informative, no BS review- thanks much!
*Imagine pulling up to a Gas Station and they tell you "sorry the pumps are not working, your going to have to use a Teaspoon and scoop your fuel in from this shared Bucket"*
oh and P.S currently electric cars are predominately used by white collar relatively level headed adults... wait till the blue collars have to start using EV's.... think..WALMART level crazies
Nope. I’ll stick with my well-maintained 2007 BMW 335i with JB4 tune, hydraulic steering, beautiful power delivery, and NO computer screens. We’re going through a transitional period now where a lot of things have gotten worse. Eventually things will get sorted out. I’ll sooner buy a 2010 Porsche 911 turbo before I buy some new garbage computer car.
Yesss, love the story format. Great video boys!!!
Love the format! The kicking rocks bit was great👌🏼. Great video on a meh subject
If you are going to get an EV just get a Tesla. Yes Elon sucks but the car itself is superior to all other available EVs. This is because this is all that Tesla does this has been 100% of their focus since inception. Ford, GM, etc are just making EVs to not be left behind.
What about the build quality? The gaps in panels on every model? The 1-4 month wait time for absolutely menial maintenance appointments? No apple car play / android auto still in 2024? They too, are maddening. Just for different reasons
Elon sucks? You must hate free speech and freedom
Lol Bert kresichner is not worth a 4 minute drive...... 4 hours? lmao don't gas light me bro
Thank you for this video. I’m almost at the 1 year mark in my 2021 Mach E Select. (Knock on wood) the only issue I’ve had is the same CarPlay problems, along with one-touch-up sometimes not working on the rear windows. My only regret is not getting the extended range. Which can be a problem here in FL where the charging network is abysmal. I’ve done public charging once at an EA station between Tampa & Orlando & it worked perfectly, but I know that was just dumb luck. So far though, a great, surprisingly luxurious car to own.
Really love this format. It’s nice to see some of Matt’s writing skills translate to the script style video
Solid consumer advice. I also really like the voice over story telling.
So happy of your honest transparency mate
Please do more of these videos, it was how I got into this channel years ago
Amazing! Coming from 10+ year fan, welcoming BACK this style!!! Hope you can get the ROI needed!
Loving the sponsorship from jegs.
As a die hard drag racing fan from the uk🇬🇧
The jegs family are legends in pro stock across the pond👍
I have a July 2022 build and this tracks well with my experience too, but with less car play issues. Just a great daily driver if you have a level 2 at home driving less than 150 miles. Longer trips and calling it charger anxiety is spot on. Just need to plan on those trips taking a little longer with a little bit more planning.
I kinda dig the format of this video. We're seeing the car while hearing the important details we came for. Very professionally done.
Great long term review and video, Matt. THIS is exactly the kind of review most drivers are going to want to see to even consider an EV.
You can program the windows yourself. From the up position roll then down with the button the entire time. When it is fully down continue holding the button for a couple of seconds. Roll it up holding the button the entire time the for a few seconds after it is up. The auto up/down will now properly work. This process is the same for many vehicles.
I have done that same trip with my mach-e. BTW I love it when it is updating...that means you get to charge for free.
This is easily the best real world EV review. Nice format.
I dig this format. Brought me to the channel off the pod. The content is good
great video mate, i hope we will see these here in Australia soon..
Quality format thanks
I love this return to old-school TST form
"Morally correct speed" Love it! I'm going to keep that phrase handy.
As someone who lives in Phoenix (and literally just made this drive today) I have wondered about making this trip in an EV. Good to see that although there infrastructure isn’t perfect, this drive actually doable. Phoenix to So Cal and Phoenix to Vegas are the two important routes any future EV I would get would need to be able to handle.
Nice review, this Mach e looks very compelling
re EV battery power and phoenix I have wondered how expensive batteries will fare in in the blistering scortching heat compared with much cooler areas ....heat is a known batteru killer (at least has been historically for lead acid) ...my dad who lived near phoenix replaced sooo many car batteries like one a year....he always bought ones with the best warranties for that reason will be interesting to see how EV batteries hold up in place like Phoenix
Brand new to Mach E (2021, Red, Premium, AWD, Extended) and this video was great!
Electrify America sucks. You nailed it with infrastructure anxiety. I've taken my i4 on a few short trips that require charging and it's maddening. Chargers that randomly lose connection after 1 or 2 minutes, chargers that are supposed to deliver 150+Kwh and they deliver 50-60. Just ridiculous.
18:50 Zach's pan to the gas station was perfect 😂
Love the format!
Good review, thanks guys
Love this format
Love the format 👍