The INSANITY Of Saudi Arabia
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- Saudi Arabia is now home to a growing number of European football stars. A crazy development that stretches far beyond the realm of football. I think we have to talk about it.
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00:00 - Introduction
02:47 - What’s going on?
06:30 - Failed Blueprint?
09:33 - What to expect next?
Producer: Tinashe Chipako
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as a south american is quite funny to me seeing english people mad on twitter cause saudis are doing to european football 10% of what europeans have been doing to us for a few decades now
This is for you (not really)
Yeah, English are worst of the hypocrite. They poach from all over the world it's ok but other's doing it oh world is ending!
While I agree one of the big issues with the saudi league is that it has a tendency of not paying players
the fact Santos was supposed to be the biggest club in the world at its time. They're acting like Spain's Royal Capitalism money didn't play a big time in their success. While Chelsea like spending 600m+ in a mid-season transfer window isn't as controversial. I still don't support Saudis, yet it's ironic, isn't it?
If you had any money and your football confederations did a good job making your leagues commercially profitable outside of South America, there would be no reason to leave. South America as it stands is for early development and retirement for the talented.
As a southamerican. I enjoy the irony of european clubs fearing the economic power of a foreing league feeding on their talent
Right? 🤣
lmao so true
How the turns have tabled. Love to see it.
Lmao also the complaints about the “oil money” like who tf is using and paying for all that oil bru?! 😂
these people are racist and so far beyond what we understand as delusional
@@MotuBiral the difference to be fair is that these clubs are buying players only because of their oil money. There is no heritage or real competitiveness in Saudi Arabia. So yes it sucks that top talents always get sold to Europe, but at least the quality of football in Europe is the best in the world. The difference with Saudi Arabia is that their league is 66th ranked in the world, they only have money to offer. Having young talents sold to them would be a waste. That’s why players like Vinicius Jr. have a release clause of 1 billion euros
People talk about football culture being a factor, but theyve qualified for the past 2 World Cups. For this reason I can see the league doing better than China
plus there's honestly more money they're willing to invest and their ultimate goal seems to just be the number one retirement league whereas China was trying to make their own bundesliga somehow
The Chinese team probably used only Chinese players whereas the Saudi and other Middle Eastern teams often bring in players from Africa and they get dual citizenship. This is really common with Olympic sports as well.
Does Saudi Arabia have a youth football infrastructure built up? Does China? Efficiency, stability, and lack of corruption of such a system could definitely improve their chances of discovering and nurturing talent at home. Unfortunately, in some countries, like Mexico and Nigeria, there is so much corruption that actually hinders the cultivation of talent. There's a channel that has a video on this and I think it's HITC Sevens (seven countries that should be better at football).
The reason why people try to bash Saudi is because its a legit threat. Even at China's Peak they didn't sign players as big as this. Plus we will never how the China project would have truly unfolded since Covid cut it short
Plus even before signing all these players a Saudi already made it to the Final of the past 2 AFC champions leagues. Even beating South Americas team In the Klub world cup and only losing 5;3 to real Madrid. Additionally a Al Hilal/Al nassr team only lost 4:3 to PSG. Keep in mind all this is before the massive investment. If they keep this up and start develop their own talents and sign younger players this can become a legit Asian Heavyweight league
China have non existant football culture
I read that the avrg attande of Matches in stadium dont even exceed 20.000
@@dronesclubhighjinksit's the opposite actually, china has players of brazilian origins play in their national team, and saudi arabia dosen't just give out nationalities to good players.
All the players that play for saudi are homegrown and tend to only play in the local league but still the national team is pretty good and is only behind japan's national team in terms of number of asian cup wins.
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Been waiting for someone to cover this, thank you 🙏
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10:35 One key difference between Chinese and Saudi clubs. Saudi clubs are actually good at football. Al Hilal is the most successful club in AFC-CL and that was before the influx of European players.
Yeah, south americans fear african and arab clubs ever since Mazembe X Inter in 2010, we don't fear Concacaf and asian clubs, but Afcon? Yes.
and we have fans lol
The reason is footballers get money as well as a retirement plan. It's like asking a software employee in an average company to manage a poor but promising company. It's just all about the money
All these brokies at their miserable 9-5s would gladly switch to their companies competitor if they offered them double their salary. NPCs just can’t use their brain and understand footballers are employees too😂
I don't mean no disrespect because obviously to refuse that amount of money IS VERY DIFFICULT if we are realistic about it. But Ronaldo, Benzema, Kante, etc ALL HAD ALREADY enough money to retire and secure their families. Taking a Saudia Arabia is pure greed.
Ronaldo has a net worth of $500 million. Players like Benzema, Kante and Firmino were earning more far more money in a week than most of us earn in a year. They were hardly on starvation wages in Europe
Hell, even the lowest earners at Nottingham Forest are rich as shit compared to the average person. All these players could've hired a semi decent accountant/financial advisor and they're families would've been set for life
Not to mention even after retirement, they could've made plenty of money through management, coaching, punditry and sponsorship deals. Moving to the Saudi League is selling out there's no two ways about it
I understand, and you are right, but... if you want to make your league big? That is it, old class players, and them you grown your talents, but you need start somewhere...
@@fivestarman5130 so it is when players go to England from other European countries
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Imo, there’s a huge difference between the csl and saudi.
The csl were essentially the government pushing businessmen to pursue football, and it was going well until they decided that football wasn’t worth it. We saw the effects of that across europe and not just for the csl where chinese backed clubs suddenly faced alot of financial trouble, ie, wolves, inter etc..
Saudi on the other hand is the government itself investing in these clubs, not them asking or incentivising their businessmen to invest in the saudi league. If it fails, it would be a slap in the face for the country itself and not just towards the league so i don’t see the gov pulling out in the next few years.
And perhaps more importantly is that saudi clubs and the league itself is actually one of the most established leagues outside of europe. Heck they have the most asian champions league trophies (afc) and the most clubs winning said trophies. They don’t need any help establishing their league in asia or in their own country unlike the csl
I mean sure... we'll see how this season goes but the games Sky has thrown on CZcams have been shit the standard of football makes the MLS look like La Liga...
the main issue right now with saudi football is the football itself... i dont see 35+ year old players fixing that.
Plus, 100% of all the Saudi International players players play in the Saudi league and are a product of the league.
@@mohammedalrashed1132 they are 3rd league level at the best
@@salecousin5470 Yeah I know. But these guys beat Japan and were the top of their cualificacion group and won Argentina game. So this should downgrade them to even level of 4th of immature league.
@@mohammedalrashed1132 the reason for the third rate in all ball sports and everything that concerns coordination or athletics is further promoted by a small geenpool. Marrying your cousin has huge repercussions
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Good informative video bro, love your jersey, greetings from a Sporting CP fan.
Such a great way with words my man. Expressing the way we all feel about this perfectly- confused, watchful, and maybe even a little nervous.
Thanks for another banger🙏🏼
Cry you don’t own the players or football
As a Liverpool fan , I’m so amazed at the hypocrisy by our own media 😂
We did the same thing for years and now when a big dog comes in we have a problem? Lol
Man City owns its success to Arab money . Newcastle only qualified because of Arab money
Been waiting so long for this vid!!!!
Thanks for that informative video. You just earned yourself another subscriber.
I think that this could be a chance to reclaim European football. As the popularity will either fade or move to Arabia, it will give the fans here a chance to forget money and get back to our European football roots and traditions.
This is bullshit with all due respect
do you really think that any of these legends and future stars want to leave their home country for some european tradition? All those great players mostly came from struggling lifehoods, thats why England Germany and Spain are not competing well anymore in International Tournaments
Time is over for Europe, New giants rise
I support this. Hopefully it will help a lot of black and browns move away from white nations. We must make racism in football MASSIVE all over Europe.
@@kingofracism can't tell if this is satire or not
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Great video mate
The idea here is, for years, Saudi clubs have been draining the Saudi ministry of sport costing them hundreds of millions in player purchases and salaries. In return, the money coming from TV deals, shirt and ticket sales is very little. The plan is simple, for 4-5 years, invest heavily in the league hoping to raise the profile and secure TV deals that will make the league self-sustainable.
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Great video as always lad
As a South American I really don't see the difference between Saudi Arabia and the EPL.
Like, don't get me wrong, there are differences, obviously, but they are small ones in the grand scheme of things. They are both just very rich leagues pilfering talent from elsewhere. We don't really care if our talent is being taken from Al Hilal or Chelsea, they are leaving just the same, and both have suspicious owners as well lol
i think most the concern isnt that of the league but that of the head state...saudi arabia...human rights issues being the predominant issue
@@airwipe1639because UK human rights record Is outstanding right?
@@airwipe1639Europe money comes from exploring Americas and Africa
@@Historia_ParalelaAll the dictators in Africa and South America must love you😂
are you dumb? state ownership is completely different
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I think this strategy will succeed for, for a while at least. The main problem is when the money stops coming, will the players stay there for the quality of the league as well as quality of life in Saudi? In the current scenario, I don't think so. Money will run out at some point.
Saudi Arabia isn't that bad if you're muslim and don't drink alcohol. No taxes, warm weather and the sea nearby.
I for sure wouldn't want to live in a Islamic dictatorship, but there are enough players who would
i think its hard to beat hundreds of years of football culture by just pumping money, but im not an experted so i guess we'll just have to wait and see
I think the Saudi League won't be attractive without overpaying players, because there is no Champions League there. Beyond money, I think the prospect to win the Champions League, or in some cases playing for some famous clubs, is the biggest pulling factor for top class players to move to foreign clubs. And I don't see the second happen in the relatively short term. Though the league might get more attractive in the long term for players with closer cultural ties to Arabia than Europe, who might value that more than the Champions League.
there is the ASIAN Champions league. I'm still mad proud that my local team won the 2nd or 3rd (Asian Federation Cup)tier equivalent to Europa and Europe conference. in 05 and the other in 08. So yeah. For the retirees it's the same as going to MLS. They are earning the bucks. At some point players think about money and let go of their dream. And most have won the big time. Mendy,Kante, Ronaldo.
@@azizanputra I mean that as no disrespect to the asian champions league and your team winning no matter what title is a great achievement, but obviously the asian champions league won't pull any top players as long as other leagues there don't experience a similar increase in quality. Neither do I blame players for choosing to earn a lot of money, but for the reasons listed I don't think it will hold once teams stop paying these obscene wages.
Honeatly, I'd compare the Saudi League to the Russian premier league. I remember a lot of global shock when clubs like Anzhi and Zenit spent massively buying some of Europes biggest prospects, and proven talent as well. The league has grown and they still buy big players, obviously not much since the war.
very bad comparison lol
@@ikhlashasib8256 why? Both oil rich countries and clubs owned by oil billionaires.. Gazprom owns Zenit.. and Zenit is owned by the Russian state. Its almost literally the same.. Anzhi is also owned by an Oligarch. I remember when the Russian league had players like Hulk, Witsel, Malcom, Eto'o, Willian, etc. The biggest difference is Saudi clubs cant compete in Europe, but they had similar spending power because in those days there was no FFP so players got massive wages in Russia.
@@footballhipstertv Hulk, Witsel, Malcom, Eto'o, Willian now compare those players to what saudi has.
Europe has bin plundering South American leagues for decades.
The English, Spanish, Italian, French, German leagues have also bin plundering the smaller European leagues.
Simply take a look at teams like Ajax or Anderlecht. But they all had watch there best players leave. Something that really became a problem from the 90's.
Now those teams are at the point that English and Spanish clubs start giving big contracts to 14 year old boys. Causing them to lose talents before they ever made the first team.
There are several international youth tournaments and in general Ajax or Anderlecht perform very well against teams like PSG, Real Madrid, Chelsea,...
But they often don't have the financial power to retain those young players and lose them at an age were there value is not yet that great.
So don't really feel sorry for the Premier League or the Primera Division teams.
In the end this just might give more chance for local players to brake through in there own league. in the longer run this might be a win.
I hope they loose the war and loose everything
It was a nice surprise seeing a SPORTING shirt . Tks
If Saudi wouldn't have defeated Argentina at World Cup, Messi would have given Al Classico a thought...
Oil Classico would have banged hard
Yep. I still remember the "where is Messi" chants from Saudi fans 😂😂.
@@matthewsengendo6302that’s already the name of City-PSG
Look, there is nothing surprising about messi not joining Saudi
Messi had 3 options
1. Barca (less money + more family satisfaction)
2. Saudi (More money + less family satisfaction)
3. MLS (Money + Family satisfaction)
And he chose 3rd... not surprising
@@NekkusuAkahe said he had offers from Europe as well
As a Saudi I can tell you these four teams have history both domistic and continental and alshabab used to be a big team but then Al baltan ruined it
As an Saudi i can tell you there is clearly no history 😂🤲🏼🏳️🌈
@@abu-omaral-bakr392they have asian football history
@@abu-omaral-bakr392you wish to be Saudi, you obviously lowly Arabized typical hater.
You feel shame of your country and ethnicity as all your people claims to be Arabs.
@@abu-omaral-bakr392 what do you mean no history Al itthad and Al hillal have 6 AFC champions leagues between them
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How is it a problem when the epl have been doing this for more than a decade after starting to get billionaire ownerships ?
Because it's non-western country/not aligned to the West. They are hipocrites.
Well we don’t fund terrorism, so there’s that 🤷🏼♂️
@@davidevans916 NATO left the chat🤣🤣🤣🤣
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@@davidevans916 you fund israel, thats terrorism.
Watching the Saudis making ludicrous hyper-inflated offers to players of the oil clubs in europe has been peak irony for me
No one cares
Seems like peak fraud to me, these clubs are basically moving assets around to balance their books. So the Saudi league has been turned into a shell company.
@@oszwyou care
@@juanramirez5898 no
Premier League started to kill european football with insane money spending during transfer windows, Saudi Arabia is just giving the final hit to a sport that completely lost its soul.
This is pretty much what Europe is doing right now to south America and nobody is complaining about that so why bitch about it now instead of leaving the Saudi Arabians be happy with better talents making their leauge relevant for the meanwhile and expanding the leauge with talented players
He’s salty because it’s working
europe did it to south america by offering good facilities and quality of life, as well as fame and glory. only thing saudi arabia offers is money
@@abdirahmanbutugey2315 good one arab XD
Nice Sporting kit btw. Im a Sporting fan.
I'm sorry, but people who have a problem with this can kick rocks. Especially EPL fans who use foreign billionaires and dirty money to fund their league. At least Saudi has the decency to use their own.
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Good luck in Europa league
This always happens every decade to different results, Serie A in the 80’s gets a free pass for being in Europe (the EPL is catching flack now), in the 90’s the J league almost bankrupted itself until they coarse corrected into the best emerging league outside of Europe and Latin America, in the 2000’s it was MLS to grow the popularity of the league.
Can't wait for Newcastle to announce they're playing home games in Saudi Arabia😂
That‘s EXACTLY what the Premier League has been doing these past few years and you didn‘t want the Super League.
Don‘t cry now.
Hope this helps.
I'll follow you guy.
Truth is bro it is only a problem because the stars are not going to the premier league. I didn't see people complaining when Newcastle were dropping 70m for Tonali.
Your Sporting t-shirt won me immediately!
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Here after Al hilal massive offer to Mbappe😅
Just to remind every non European that one of the reasons ww1 and ww2 happened was because some Europeans felt they didn't get thier due time in "the sun", imagine killing millions because you didn't get your share of the cake. The cake being colonization of other countries and stealing their wealth😂
Cool one
Another BANGER here we go
Non Premier League fans be like "first time?"
12:20 well city is obviously not an organic team
Great video. I hope it all fails in the football world for Saudi Arabia. Your point about what football fans care about is spot on - will global football fans care what’s going in in the desert league
always love this guy, smart and insightful, excellent :)
When English team poach from all over the world it's there capability when Saudi does, it's insanity!
There is more talent in England when compared to Saudi currently. SO to buy players who are at there level is not the same as what they are doing. Ronaldo, Benzema are in the league of there own when compared to existing players in the league.
English teams don’t use slaves to build their stadiums to be fair
@@Jack10016 They use the looted money from India and Africa
I’m curious to see if Saudi Arabia is investing into academies to develop homegrown talent
We already invested before the TSIF takeover
You sound critical on the topic, Like everyone else before opportunities coming to the region, you think they suppose to let go ?
love your works. would you mind telling me where your from? 'cause your accent is different.
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Let's be honest: PL clubs do exactly the same. And some of them are owned by Saudis or Qataris. Its good for European football that the PL has financial competition now.
Well it,Saudi football would prosper rather than China.china is most unstable in terms of laws and no backup funding for clubs whereas Saudi has ability to pour loads of money and still won't get bankrupt.
I started a career mode with Al-Hilal and the updated Saudi league, I don’t like the mass buying, but I don’t hate it either, it’s kinda fun
been watching your videos forever sorry i just now subscribed to your channel. thank you for all you do
Everybody was quiet when the PL was doing the exact same thing Saudi League is doing right now, the premier league bought young stars from every league in Europe. but now a new big player joined the game and he will have his share of football stars. football isn't only in Europe
saudi arabia cant buy players but you watch the prem which has teams owned by saudi
Intresting👍
the Saudi government does not plan to make their national team world champions but in case of China it was the dream and ambition of the country's president to make their national team a formidable side and win the wc by 2050 that is the difference predominately in the leagues plus saudi plans to become a better league
The Real Upcoming Super League
never thought going to Miami would be the more ethical, humble option
It's a hippocracy of world an media
Cause its not
But hey since the Media tells you so it is I guess
It is compared to Saudi
Ah yes, going to a country's league where colonizers massacred the indigenous population is very ethical.
It is ethical in the sense that its not due to money. The income at Miami is something he could have got in europe as well.
The Chinese league was signing trash big names, Saudi signed the 2nd greatest player to have ever lived in Ronaldo, and following Kante, Benz, Bobby Firmino, kouli, and so on actual legends of the game big difference
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This is very different from what chine or MLS tried to do. This is a huge long term project. Saudi has a huge football heritage, large fan bases for the teams, enough money to back up the plan and a huge following from fans in the region and other arab countries. Saudi already dominated asia both on the national and club level, saudi is also responsible for creating the continental cup and the whole world have seen how the Saudi people are passionate about the sport in the 2022WC.
I think Saudia is doing very good for Asian football, as it will help to promote not only the Saudi League but also others teams in AFC, thus promoting the sports in Asia. I think the European elitist think it is very bad and they think that this is killing the sports. Chinese investment era helped AFC alot and I think the same would happen this time around, and about prestige, there is alot of history and prestige for many clubs in Asia, its just that people do not know of the history.
It is killing the sport. Players moving to league ranked 66 just because of greed. Disgusting.
@@dandy6191 so Brazilian players moving to Europe for money and fame are good? The league does not have any foreign players that is why ranked it is ranked low, just because they are pursuing players to promote and make their league better, it is disgusting? Take away all the foreign players from PL and look how low it will fall.
@@MuhammadWaqas-bb6ss Europe has tradition and heritage. Saudi have Oil money 💰
@@dandy6191 yeah so? The Saudi are trying to make tradition in their league, is that wrong? When European leagues first started were they questioned for why they lure south american talent to their land with money? It is just saying give the league time and the heritage of football will follow.
@@MuhammadWaqas-bb6ss you think that 100+ years ago they had foreign footballers in UK? LoL.
Ansu fati leaves for Saudi. Calling it now
You europeans now know how South Americans, especially Argentina, Uruguay and Brazil feel whenever you yank all of our talent for money.
I think people should look at the Indian Super League as an example of developing football in the country. Since 2014, the All India Football Federation (AIFF) has not only developed some players well, but also created tiers of football with promotion/relegation starting next season, and also focuses on women's football. I know people will say there isn't investment etc. and will think I'm biased as an Indian, but it is worth having a look on how it plans out on expanding football with grassroots
That sounds really nice! I hope it will be very successful. India is such a cool country with rich culture. I would like to see the Indian league grow and get internationally relevant.
Nah keep playing cricket
Football will never grow in India. People are just mad about cricket, no pther sport can replace that.
Indians always wants to join the conversation and make it about them, this is why people dont like you.
England poach from all over the world it's ok but other's doing it - oh the world is ending!
The premier league has been doing this for years, and two of the champions league teams are owned by Saudis. I like this, the premier league finally has competition in terms of spending.
“Haters are my favorite. I’ve built an empire with the bricks they’ve thrown at me. Keep on hating.”
I have to say, I am not too much into any football league, I mostly watch national matches. But I was actually shocked when I realized that not just CR7 famously made the jump but (and please don't rip my head off for not knowing that) N'Golo Kante, Karim Benzema, Roberto Fermino and Jota did too... I don't know too much about soccer, but even I know that those are pretty well known guys and people like Mane being romured to follow... I didn't know the Saudi League was actually becoming football giants. But, when you keep in mind how big of a history the Arabic countries and especially their oil money have with European soccer I guess it actually makes sense... Plus like you said: Saudi Arabia is king when it comes to sports wasching
While America still operates guantanamo bay, I have to listen to this guy talking about Saudi Arabia.
Wow. Nice jersey 😍😍 I'm not a biased sporting fan at all 😂
How has Man city not been punished yet
It’s just charges. Nothing has been proven yet.
It's only a problem cause the Saudis aren't european. European teams have been snatching players from all over the world and you lot don't complain about it. Hypocrisy
Don't know how I wasn't subbed before. Thanks for putting out very quality content Tinashe
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When Saudi Arabia and China do it ❌
When USA do it ✅
honestly, I hope it goes well and that they're able to succeed and that after some years, they're able to have elite home grown players as well. There can never be too many good players and it would be exciting for the world off football to have another country worth watching In the world cup
SCP... As long you don't use other pt jersey I keep sub
10:30 they’ve already done this with Jota from Celtic
In their position I would have done the same but it doesn’t change the fact that I hate that its happening and its basically ruining the game. Lets be real here
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