I think you missed the point of a landfall deck. Landfall is specifically caring about lands entering the battlefield. Ashling isn't a landfall deck, that's a big mana deck. Just because you want a lot of mana doesn't mean you are playing a lands matter or landfall deck
Yeah... describing a burn-the-table-out deck as a landfall deck and a red color pie "break" is just odd. All that was shown is that the deck is mana hungry and needs a lot of ramp...
Yeah. When he called a red landfall deck, I got excited because I am playing an actual landfall deck and I am always looking for ways to make it faster. Thinking maybe there was some little known red ramp spell that I missed but this is just colorless ramp that everyone and their mother already knows about anyway.
Mono red landfall and you didn't pick Moraug is interesting. I have a moraug deck and it goes hard when you get 5 landfalls in a turn people are always surprised it's one of my favorites
I will say that the Ashling deck is particularly creative, but the color pie is less and less restricted with each new set. In statistical probability, we could say 5/2000 cards is not a lot, but if it's a sub theme you want in your mono colored deck, it's enough to push the envelope. When you start to get up to 3 colors, it might be more like 50/6000. This is definitely enough for a theme, though still statistically insignificant as less than 1% of all cards that could go in the deck match the theme. It's still nice to see creative builds, but Felix is a Commander built precisely for what you're doing. Magic themselves "broke the pie" on that one. And really, all they did was sneak green into the mix of ninjas and rogues, which makes sense and is a fun commander to see. Your Narset build is a little unconventional for Jeskai, but not the biggest stretch as Bant Enchantress and Boros Equipment could easily have a baby and toss the green. But it is an exercise in creativity to think through fun ways to build commanders that aren't commonly seen. Definitely like how you stretched the most with Ashling and would love to see more like that. Even the Narset one is interesting enough as well.
One of my favorite commanders to build of the past year was Nashi, Moon’s Legacy. While it seems a bit open ended and vague, I built it as Sultai Legend-tribal Voltron, the exact opposite color combo you’re expecting for a voltron equip deck. But there’s something incredibly satisfying about casting a Hammer of Nazahn from your graveyard, it attaching itself to Nashi, then flashing in a Black Blade Reforged for an instant lethal commander damage. I encourage anyone give them a try as theres a lot of ways you can build Nashi, the other route i was considering was sultai discard staxs, recycle a lot of the discard/ max hand size reducing rat cards to squeeze your opponents out of draws and lock the game down, or even if you just wanted a Rat commander they do relentless rats fairly well while being one of the few not-mono-black tribal commanders.
Biggest pie break I ever brewed was a monoGreen Storm deck for Kogla, the Titan Ape. Turns out his bounce ability goes infinite with untap etbs and/or Humans that provide big mana. There are WAY more of them than you think. King Kong Combo on TappedOut, if anyone is interested.
I had a friend who built an ashling deck we were playing commander he was late and didn’t have a deck so he opened his binder got out ashling and 97 mountains an ozolith and urza saga he lucked out with drawing the saga it was fun and unexpected how quickly he snowballed
Man, I was hoping you were going to something else than voktron for jeskai. Jeskai is definitely a voltron color combo especially based on it's philosophy.
I have both Ashling and Felix, both are very fun. The Grand Larceny precon had a pretty good shell for Felix, I swapped out 20 cards and a total of $20 and it seems to perform very well.
I just cut an Unwinding Clock and a Clock of omens from Breya and placed them in my Alela Artful Provocateur deck. In that deck I also have artifacts and I combined it with the faeries Precon, so I mostly play in other people's turns, so even if they do work in Breya, I really don't have much instant speed stuff (other than tutors) so yeah. I think a great way to understand cutting cards and enhancing strategies building 2 decks where you can tinker with them and make them different enough that they feel and play Unique. Breya is Combo and the Faeries are tempo. I also have a Mishra deck from Brothers War ( My brother has Urza) and we're always battling it out and trying to exchange cards that fit eachothers strategies best. That's why I love commander
Maybe I'm not smart enough to understand but unless you have Pariah or Pariah Shield or something similar, Ashling kills itself on activation. While yea that won't matter too much if you ramp hard, it still costs a total of 12 mana the third time you bring her out and 3 damage board wipe. That's what I have a Torbran deck for. 1 cost deal 1 damage to all opponents and their creatures turns to 3 damage with Torbran. Same scenario as Ashling only costs 9 (if Torbran gets cast a third time plus 1 mana sorcery)
The REAL problem with the last few years in mtg is that simply put, there literally is NO color pie. They've shoe-horned in every single once color specific strength into every other color. That's why white is absolutely ATROCIOUSLY unbalanced currently, with green being a very very close competitor as the "5 color mono color". There is no pie anymore. Design team/s threw it in the dumpster and the stray magic players are feasting it up. This is the hard truth.
I had noticed this in deck building trends over the years. Boros and mono white were jokes or places to run pet cards. Now my pod runs decks from Feather spell slinger to Elesh Norn landfall that easily crush precons. And mono green is always explosive. Storm, voltron, combo, control. Green does it all.
@@SteamClockWork "I wish red/white deckd were janky, unplayable crap" is a very interesting take to have. Boros and mono white decks SHOULD have the ability to be good decks, like any other color(s). They should just still have some actual downsides and weaknesses.
@@Zakading I read it more as highlighting the trend. How vast and fast the change from white being the worst mono color to becoming the most rounded one has been. The order of colors changing itself isn’t a problem. It’s the fact that they have given the color basically everything and in vast quantities in just couple years. I love building mono / two color decks for their limitations. However more and more it’s becoming not having access to somethings and about just having a smaller pool of cards to select from.
I think you missed the point of a landfall deck. Landfall is specifically caring about lands entering the battlefield. Ashling isn't a landfall deck, that's a big mana deck. Just because you want a lot of mana doesn't mean you are playing a lands matter or landfall deck
Yeah... describing a burn-the-table-out deck as a landfall deck and a red color pie "break" is just odd. All that was shown is that the deck is mana hungry and needs a lot of ramp...
Yeah. When he called a red landfall deck, I got excited because I am playing an actual landfall deck and I am always looking for ways to make it faster. Thinking maybe there was some little known red ramp spell that I missed but this is just colorless ramp that everyone and their mother already knows about anyway.
also he didn't use things like valakut to use all of those mountains entering the battlefield
Expedition Map is not ramp.
Ashling the Pilgrim does sound neat as a commander though.
Mono red landfall and you didn't pick Moraug is interesting. I have a moraug deck and it goes hard when you get 5 landfalls in a turn people are always surprised it's one of my favorites
I will say that the Ashling deck is particularly creative, but the color pie is less and less restricted with each new set. In statistical probability, we could say 5/2000 cards is not a lot, but if it's a sub theme you want in your mono colored deck, it's enough to push the envelope. When you start to get up to 3 colors, it might be more like 50/6000. This is definitely enough for a theme, though still statistically insignificant as less than 1% of all cards that could go in the deck match the theme. It's still nice to see creative builds, but Felix is a Commander built precisely for what you're doing. Magic themselves "broke the pie" on that one. And really, all they did was sneak green into the mix of ninjas and rogues, which makes sense and is a fun commander to see. Your Narset build is a little unconventional for Jeskai, but not the biggest stretch as Bant Enchantress and Boros Equipment could easily have a baby and toss the green. But it is an exercise in creativity to think through fun ways to build commanders that aren't commonly seen. Definitely like how you stretched the most with Ashling and would love to see more like that. Even the Narset one is interesting enough as well.
One of my favorite commanders to build of the past year was Nashi, Moon’s Legacy. While it seems a bit open ended and vague, I built it as Sultai Legend-tribal Voltron, the exact opposite color combo you’re expecting for a voltron equip deck. But there’s something incredibly satisfying about casting a Hammer of Nazahn from your graveyard, it attaching itself to Nashi, then flashing in a Black Blade Reforged for an instant lethal commander damage. I encourage anyone give them a try as theres a lot of ways you can build Nashi, the other route i was considering was sultai discard staxs, recycle a lot of the discard/ max hand size reducing rat cards to squeeze your opponents out of draws and lock the game down, or even if you just wanted a Rat commander they do relentless rats fairly well while being one of the few not-mono-black tribal commanders.
Biggest pie break I ever brewed was a monoGreen Storm deck for Kogla, the Titan Ape. Turns out his bounce ability goes infinite with untap etbs and/or Humans that provide big mana. There are WAY more of them than you think.
King Kong Combo on TappedOut, if anyone is interested.
Lol happy to see someone building this, I thought I was the only one in the world hahaha
God bless this deck
Oh boy, try this with selvala as the commander instead, and you get one of the strongest storm decks in the format!
that seems more like an infinite combo deck than storm
Have you considered a kibo uktabi prince, artifact hate deck? I think it could be a pretty interesting and effective med-high power curve ball.
I couldn’t find the Narset deck on moxfield, do you have a list?
I had a friend who built an ashling deck we were playing commander he was late and didn’t have a deck so he opened his binder got out ashling and 97 mountains an ozolith and urza saga he lucked out with drawing the saga it was fun and unexpected how quickly he snowballed
Felix Five Boots is the new 2nd Best Ninja Commander and I think thats hilarious
Hell yah, i love build new decks!!!!
Man, I was hoping you were going to something else than voktron for jeskai. Jeskai is definitely a voltron color combo especially based on it's philosophy.
The aboriginal big Voltron-focused commander was Ruhan, too.
Cool buddy,looks so fan 😎 😍 👌
I have both Ashling and Felix, both are very fun. The Grand Larceny precon had a pretty good shell for Felix, I swapped out 20 cards and a total of $20 and it seems to perform very well.
Narset sounds crazy fun.
I just cut an Unwinding Clock and a Clock of omens from Breya and placed them in my Alela Artful Provocateur deck. In that deck I also have artifacts and I combined it with the faeries Precon, so I mostly play in other people's turns, so even if they do work in Breya, I really don't have much instant speed stuff (other than tutors) so yeah. I think a great way to understand cutting cards and enhancing strategies building 2 decks where you can tinker with them and make them different enough that they feel and play Unique. Breya is Combo and the Faeries are tempo. I also have a Mishra deck from Brothers War ( My brother has Urza) and we're always battling it out and trying to exchange cards that fit eachothers strategies best. That's why I love commander
Elemental with a +1/+1 counters matter effect? This'll slot well in my roil Omnath deck!
i was going to lose it when i saw narset but that actually makes me wana play her
I love playing all five colors and given a precon just released of all five colors Im gonna be ablw to actually play commander with it.
Maybe I'm not smart enough to understand but unless you have Pariah or Pariah Shield or something similar, Ashling kills itself on activation. While yea that won't matter too much if you ramp hard, it still costs a total of 12 mana the third time you bring her out and 3 damage board wipe. That's what I have a Torbran deck for. 1 cost deal 1 damage to all opponents and their creatures turns to 3 damage with Torbran. Same scenario as Ashling only costs 9 (if Torbran gets cast a third time plus 1 mana sorcery)
landfall cares about lands hitting the battlefield, not just that you have a lot of mana. this isn't a landfall deck, it's a ramp deck.
I have an Ashling but it’s def not a landfall.
Hear me out the best way to play narset the Enlightenment master is stax superfriends.
Nobody ask me about my non-red mass LD deck
you don't really have a 100 unique cards
You repeated the outro twice in the end.
Lot of salt in here lul
The REAL problem with the last few years in mtg is that simply put, there literally is NO color pie. They've shoe-horned in every single once color specific strength into every other color. That's why white is absolutely ATROCIOUSLY unbalanced currently, with green being a very very close competitor as the "5 color mono color". There is no pie anymore. Design team/s threw it in the dumpster and the stray magic players are feasting it up. This is the hard truth.
I had noticed this in deck building trends over the years. Boros and mono white were jokes or places to run pet cards. Now my pod runs decks from Feather spell slinger to Elesh Norn landfall that easily crush precons. And mono green is always explosive. Storm, voltron, combo, control. Green does it all.
@@SteamClockWork "I wish red/white deckd were janky, unplayable crap" is a very interesting take to have.
Boros and mono white decks SHOULD have the ability to be good decks, like any other color(s). They should just still have some actual downsides and weaknesses.
@@Zakading I read it more as highlighting the trend. How vast and fast the change from white being the worst mono color to becoming the most rounded one has been.
The order of colors changing itself isn’t a problem. It’s the fact that they have given the color basically everything and in vast quantities in just couple years.
I love building mono / two color decks for their limitations. However more and more it’s becoming not having access to somethings and about just having a smaller pool of cards to select from.
L take
@@murilofreire4569 L existence