How UKIP Made Brexit Without Any Power - Brexit Explained
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Brexit has been dominating the UK's political discussion for the last few years. At the centre of that has been Nigel Farage and UKIP, both pushing for the UK to leave the European Union (EU). The interesting thing is that neither UKIP nor Farage has ever had much official political influence, with the party only ever having 2 MPs at the same time. So how were they able to make Brexit a national talking point and convince the UK to leave?
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Ukip phonetically translates to 'you chicken' in Dutch. So I have never been able to take them seriously
Ur a chicken for not voting ukip.
Strange my dad never mentioned that he's Dutch.
Neither has anyone else
I just googled this it's true 🤣 so funny (Not against UKIP)
Lmao this is so good
The logo looks like it belongs above a pound shop.
The Brexit party is Farage's spite and hunger for power in political entity form.
UKIP's logo is alright but I don't like the TLDR cartoon version.
As a Canadian, the Conservative logo offended me more. I'm sorry but that tree looks like a 4 year old made it.
Oreus All new applicants to the EU must choose the Euro. So the UK will eventually lose the pound if they are allowed re-enter the EU.
@Oreus Because Nigel doesn't like Batten or his e celeb recruits/helpers: Tommy Robinson, Carl Benjamin (Sargon of Akkad), Paul Joseph Watson (hired by Alex Jones) and Count Dankula the Nazi pug guy (probably the only one of the bunch I like)
The two leaders of UKIP between Nigel and Batten were absolutely pathetic too making even Ed Miliband look like a good leader.
I didn't vote for anything in my life (only 24) but I've registered to vote for the Brexit party this month because I hate Theresa May and Jeremy Corbyn so much. Farage has his flaws but this is my "fuck you" to the 2 party system.
@@userPrehistoricman That's why he quit as UKIP leader once we voted leave... So power hungry... Idiot
There are more seats at my kitchen table than ukip has ever had.
Sir Illuminati UKIP would have over 80 seats at one point, if it wasn’t for our election system
Is that under the AV vote UKIP would of got 50 seats.
Or will ever have👍
Right, but that’s not really as revealing as you think it is given that the UK doesn’t have proportional representation.
They were unrepresented in every election plus safe seats areas like where I come from the North East it's labour people here are brainless sheep every fucking year it's labour cos only party that promotes up here each party needs fair representation to make the vote fair and fuck number of seats the party with the highest vote wins ok simple no stupid 100s year old laws it's the 21st century the majority wins that's how democracy works
Remember: Its Camerons fault
Yes. First he agreed on referendum and then he basically stopped the Remain campaign.
I almost feel sorry for May, she was given a poisoned chalice when Cameron scarped. I ALMOST feel sorry
4 words and 3 punctuation errors!
(All errors of omission.)
Cursederino Bladerino Kripparino Cameron didn't vote out. A good chunk of the British population are ignorant, foolish and borderline racists. I was an Italian researcher working for cancer research in Newcastle. While surveying the neighbourhood of a patient for environmental causes of the triggering of cancer I've almost been heckled out of a council neighbourhood for having an Italian accent.
I've got British citizenship now but I left Britain anyways. This country needs to take a long hard look at itself. Realise it has become a place where the open hate of the other won..
Cameron would have threaded the needle, if Mr. Cummings wasn't involved in the Leave Campaign.
'Don't use Twitter much...' Some of us don't use it at all and get on just fine.
You're not trying to interview famous people who respond to a blue checkmark account.
Just create an account and follow him
You dont need to use twitter. He just needs a showcase to get interviews with important people
If people only consider interviews from blue "checkmark" accounts and through a site like twitter which is censoring and banning political opponents without due process or regards of the country's laws, then it's better to let the site die and not push others to give such sites traffic. Interviews should be given to people with actual influence and good arguments, not through magic blue checkmarks given by foreign authoritative actors.
I believe it is called Twatter
0:42 notice how 'The' Ban video has the most views...people care about certain things
Hey, priorities ARE priorities, amirite?
@@PhilipAlexanderHassialis Ejaculation is murder.
"underage people"
HA!!!!
What I don’t understand is, why does Farage get so much time on tv?
He pays the tv company’s to get on the air. Even if he’s getting a new ass hole ripped into him. He’s got money
He gets publicity for the same reason as Trump: They create controversy by outrageous claims. That's different than plain old boring politics so it sells. And when, especially in UK, most publicists would sell their grandmother to the highest bidder, so they publicise what ever sells the best. UKIP didn't make brexit, it was the media.
Controlled opposition.
Clearly.
Because we live in a democratic society and allow everyone’s ideas to be heard
Controlled opposition.
Mainstream media would very much prefer to have him rather than real alternative voices like Sargon of Akkad.
I'm sorry, but I don't have a Twitter account, and I won't make one.
It is a wrenched hive of scum and villiany
@@Crick1952 A surprise to be sure. But a welcome one.
@@UnitAlir Hello there!
@@Crick1952 General Kenobi. You are a bold one!
We're all losing our rights , wake-up .
I wish you guys would have pointed out something that really skewed the balance for UKIP and Niegel farage: Despite having only 1 MP and a handful of MEPs the airtime that UKIP and Farage have enjoyed on TV and radio in the last 5 years is way over the top. It doesn't matter if you only have one MP if you have the leader of your party at every political program each week like he's one of the big guys. Media matters because it shifts the way we perceive things. It wasnt normal that a guy with "so little power" occupied so many media spaces and dominated the conversation. All the media should at least try to think about that before affording AGAIN a seat in the european elections debate to this guy.
^ This.
The Greens get less attention and they are an actual party in parliament.
On the face of it, this might not seem normal when compared with other small parties like the Greens (1x MP & 2xMEPs).
However, as UKIP is close to being a single issue party, and in the forum where their single issue matters (the European Parliament) they were the largest UK party by votes & seats, so it's not really so unusual to extend airtime to them on this issue - it would not be normal to exclude them from the Brexit discussion.
They're not so disproportionally invited to discuss "green" issues or comment on the NHS, defence, education, finance etc etc. - indeed their "policies" in those areas may not be so coherent or worthy of airtime.
However, like it or not, they have/had a valid voice on this particular topic.
Incorrect. At its peak UKIP received 1/3 of electoral votes in the general election.
@@DomenBremecXCVI And they do a far more important job and do it well. Also they do not lie to the people.
The chief advisor on Brexit in UK is clearly Larry the Cat.
Who else would have thought about meowing until the door is open and then sitting in front of it staring out?
Never occured to me that the Conservatives didn't expect to win a majority in 2015, which would have allowed them to dodge the referendum using their coalition partners as an excuse.
Pro tip: always skip first 30 seconds of every TLDR video.
No no no! You are missing out all the real history! Brexit was going to happen from the moment Maastricht was forced through parliament after being voted down.
It was just a question of time.
There has never been a majority in the UK for an EU superstate to compete with the US and there never will be.
At some point remaining in the EU was going to be untenable no matter how much pain leaving was going to be.
If you really hate bad logo design, I fully expect you to tear into Change UK's logo next time they come up on this channel. That thing is indefensibly awful.
Agree, I'd expect to see it on a road or a supermarket item
It looks like a plausible logo for Poundland.
Might take a while for them to get a video on their own as they are a lot less influential than UKIP, probably when the elections come around, if TLDR plans on making a video for every party.
That thing rips off so many other logos it's a joke lol
What do you expect from the CUK party?
No UKIP fan here, but they’ve won by-elections.
Can you do a video ranking the parties' logos?
WHY?!
My own opinion, from top to bottom (and disregarding the actual politics):
Greens: out of all the logos this is the one that most clearly indicates what they stand for. It's a planet Earth, they stand for protecting the planet. Simple.
Tories (old): the torch was really cool, but it's the sort of thing you'd imagine being held by a crowd of revolutionaries, not conservatives.
Liberal Democrats: that bird thing is pretty sweet-looking, and it looks like it's soaring pretty freely which symbolises the liberals' emphasis on freedom.
Labour: not sure how a rose is supposed to represent the interests of the working class.
UKIP (old): I actually don't think this one was too bad, albeit it has been nearly twenty years since the pound was genuinely under threat. At least it explains what the party stands for.
Tories (new): scribble-tree looks like the sort of thing that the party paid well over the odds from an add agency for. I get the tree is meant to represent growth, I don't object to it being a tree specifically, but the actual logo looks like a child drew it with crayon.
UKIP (new): too similar to the Premier League logo.
SNP: it's just a ribbon. So boring, of all the iconic Scottish things they had to choose from (thistle, maybe?) they went with that.
Change UK: you've seen all the jokes about it already. Kind of like the Tories' logo except they didn't have the money so it was done on a coffee break by one of the MPs.
I'd love to see that.
Since it's your own opinion, I make no argument against your ranking. But I'll explain the Labour's red rose. The red rose is a symbol of Socialism.
please
2010s Scotland: *tried to leave UK*
2020s Northern Ireland: my turn
2:54 I had Netflix open in another tab. Star Trek TOS. Had paused watching a while ago.
And the *moment* you said the year, it started playing with the pre-intro music. I actually thought it was part of your video. lol
your info graphics are so good. Well done giving clarity to such a confusing topic
Labour and Blair made Brexit happen 😂😂😂
I don't think the logo looks bad.. I think it does a good job, it's easy to recognise, easy to reproduce, it's not some weird.. lion outline.. sure the lion is more memorable but I don't quite think it suits a political party logo. I thought this same thing the first time I saw it. it looks like a young gamer symbol. it kinda made me worry about the party's professionalism seeing a youtuber in the party and combined with that gamer logo. it's just convoluted. the simpler logo will garner more support from the older population. people above the age of 50 I'd guess.
UKIP gaming
Disagree - UKIP merely brought the issue into the public eye. Brexit happened because the Tory party was divided on the issue. A large portion of the party was threatening to revolt against Cameron if he didn't agree to a referendum. Cameron assumed he would win and silence the rebels in his party, so he agreed. However, we got career climbers like Boris Johnson and Gove that declared for leave, assuming that a narrow loss would increase their support with the public. Their support actually tipped undecided voters in favour of leave. I'm sure that if Johnson had stayed remain, Bexit would have not happened. Brexit is really the result of a Tory party power struggle.
Agreed. And the worrying thing, after everything that he's done, is that Boris Johnson is still the bookies' favourite to be our next Prime Minister.
Discontent with the EU and the EEC before it has been simmering for decades in the UK. The unpopular Tory PM Heath rushed the country into joining. The vote to stay in 1975 was based on the idea of giving it a chance to mend its ways. These were the times of butter and beef mountains and hedgerows dug up to make prairies to grow overpriced wheat in, which then ended up in stores.
This is the kind of video that I like from you guys because other than the logo thing (an amusing, light-hearted joke in my opinion) you're covering a political topic well avoiding personal opinions.
Keep it up! Great video.
When did this "election/referendum, regarding representation" happen? it's May 2019, I am not aware it happened....why???
They aren't against Europe. They are against the EU. There is a big difference between those two words that should be maintained.
Agreed. I find it frustrating how often people conflate the two. Being anti-EU does not automatically mean being anti-Europe, it's possible to oppose a political organisation without being opposed to the people that live under it.
Andrew Geerlings the 2 are as synonymous as America and North America vs USA is now lad, even in the international stage. The vast majority of Europe (both citizens and countries) want to keep the EU (but change some part of it). For all intents and purposes you are effectively against the european agenda in this context
@@davianthule2035 Even if the terms are used interchangeably, that doesn't mean they should be. Regarding "but change some part of it", what parts do Europeans want to change?
@@davianthule2035 and isn't that attempted synonym a nasty linguistic-psychological trick purpousfully played by the EU propagandists?
The EU will never be the same as the USA. It is comparable to and will also end as the USSR. Like all unions forced upon vastly different peoples by authoritarian elites through lies, deceit and repression, it will eventually fail.
@@davianthule2035 and that the vast majority want it is another deceitful lie. *FACT:* EVERY democratic referendum on EU(-policy) held across EU countries REJECTED the pro-EU side. The pro-EU political elite then ignored the results and at times afterward even banned referendums altogether (like in the Netherlands).
Just like the true autocrats they really are.
I voted for AV all those years ago, and I was very disappointed when it failed - unfortunately, as it benefits the two big parties, I can't see it ever passing. (as the parties with all the political clout are against it)
Excellent channel. Brilliant content. Great video.
The will of the people is more powerful than any political party or MP, that is why Brexit happened.
The reason the Will of the People argument really doesn't hold up with Brexit, is unlike other referenda, the result was exceedingly close. With only 2% either way, there is very much cause to believe that if the vote had taken place on another day or under slightly different circumstances, the other side could have won. As it is there is no real clear 'Will of the People' as 'the People' are split about 50/50 over the issue.
@@Pidove727 Governments have been elected with far less of a majority on smaller turnout. Would Remain be complaining if the vote had gone to them with the same majority, i think not. Don't forget also in general elections, the parties rarely get more than the mid 30 percent's of much smaller turnouts and we may end up being ruled by a government who is only supported by one in six of the electorate.
@@gzappa whilst yes Governments have been elected with smaller majorities and turnouts, the key difference is a government only lasts for 5 years, after which people get to vote again to choose another government. However Brexit will be irreversible.
Even if we do opt to join the EU again in a few years time, we will unlikely be able to get a deal as good as the very generous one we have at the moment.
I'd argue such a big change to the uk should have required a supermajority to pass. However as Cameron didn't think he would lose the referendum he didn't push for this.
@@Pidove727 Well you can counter argue anything but we all voted according to what was offered at the time. The requests to change the rules came after the vote as the people were told their decision would be final. The meaningful vote was a delay and sabotage tactic that would only make Brexit impossible, from then on it has been betrayal all the way. But anyway as I told my then 35 year old son back in 2016, Brexit would never be allowed and I think he is now starting to realise we are not the democratic country he once thought we were. The whole Brexit process was meant to be a farce in order to appear democratic, that went wrong.
It would be really dumbfounding if someone mistook a football stadium for a UKIP rally.
Don’t forget that LibDems wanted a proportional system like STV, so the Tories’ “compromise” of alternative vote-a non-proportional system-didn’t have the support of many voters who wanted to change the voting system.
A rare example of the people having a real democratic voice. At least for a day anyway, before the elites and their poodles decided to undermine and ultimately ignore the result.
I dont normally follow content creators outside of the respective platforms the content is from..... but since you both were completely up front about why, and gave good reasoning behind it. im in.
Really interesting to see the present days political issues with past contexts given
Really interesting video loved the rant at the end about the logo! It is shite
Jey sarhon of akkad lookalike.
Why would a pro British party choose an African cat as it's symbol? Bloody Lions coming over here taking jobs from local ferrets and weasels.
@@dewolff6937 he does doesn't he lol
The UK voted against single transferable voting instead of fptp?
What the f***? What the actual f***?
It was AV
Awesome! Truly insightful.
You forgot another referendum under David Cameron: Falkland Islands sovereignty referendum in 2013.
There was a similar one in Gibraltar in 2002.
@@webchimp He said "under Cameron". Cameron didn't come into power until 2010.
I don't really use Twitter at all, but I downloaded the app and signed in just to make sure you could get those numbers up.
I don't use Twitter. I won't use Twitter. Reconsider your social media strategy. Great video though.
I guess that for referendums the same rule applies as in court for witness interrogation: never ask a question if you're not one hundred percent certain of the answer you're going to get.
Yes classic Brexi - my favourite video title.
Brexi ? What's that ? Are you not a fan on of Brexit?
EXCELLENT! Thanks 🍻👍
Cover the treaty of Lisbon 2007 please.
If you don’t know what the Lisbon Treaty is then you do not know what the European Union is.
All the more reason for them to make a video on it :)
Good point. Let’s teach these indocrinated remoaner sheep what they were *_actually_* voting for.
A video on Lisbon would actually be good to debunk some of the lies about it (needing to adopt the euro by 2022 for one)
@@thegrandmuftiofwakanda The lisbon treaty is what gives us the right to leave you melon 😂
Great video, especially for those of us outside the UK. Brexit has been an international show of British politics. I'm sorry for the people of the UK, but it's been fun watching from abroad.
Your title refutes itself.
I wish there was some kind of sound, or music, in the intro. I always have to check to see if my volume is down
Good summary.
And Theresa May was Home Secretary responsible for immigration figures, in David Cameron’s government.
Which explains what many think... she believes that the crux of the referendum loss is her own failure on immigration... and that the deal she must deliver is as close as possible to what we had in the EU before, minus the free movement.
Very good insight, thanks for the explanation.
Rod Liddle tried to interview that EU mad hatter outside Parliament on who funds him, he only ran off and shit his pants.
If UKIP/Brexit Party proves one thing, it's that even in First Past the Post if you vote for a third party it is not a wasted vote, as Jay Foreman said in his excellent video on voter apathy, there is no such thing as a wasted vote. Period. The 2 big parties in numerous examples from Australia (People voting for the Nats led the Liberals to reform the voting system away from FPTP) to Britain will do much to get your vote back to stay in power, and that includes looking at the party program of the third party and adopting some of their policies that got people to leave the big 2.
The Tory-LibDem wasnt the first coalition, was the first since the war though
He said the first after an election, not the first ever - the coalition war government was formed five years after the general election of 1935, after Churchill succeeded Chamberlain following a vote of no confidence.
Are "The Conservatives" and "Torys" the same thing?
The other referendums held in the years leading up the Brexit vote brought up in this video are actually part of the reason why I don't think the Conservatives are likely to allow a second referendum on Brexit despite how many people say they should do it. As they have often used it only when they expected their position to win easily and then as a means to justify that being the end of the matter. If they where to go back on this one it would actually make it harder to justify not revisiting the other topics.
I’ve always sort of believed that the Scottish referendum played a role in Brexit happening, so its cool that you guys kind of agree
Yes you're right that is a terrible logo was the purple lion Farage's idea because that would explain why Batten messed up?
It looks like the logo on Proton cars.
Great video! I would have also included the fact that there was no one campaigning for the EU the whole time UKIP was campaigning against it.
Actually UKIP current logo is very good and clever.
hmm, did UKIP switch to that Lion logo because British national animal is the Lion? I thought it was the pufferfish...
It's dragons and naked lady's
is it just me, it says Brexi in the title
UKIP logo always make me think of Poundland!
Ironic, since post Brexit, that's pretty much the only high-street store that will be operating...
Octowuss ...... but that's got much more to do with the Internet than Brexit!
The one that shut down?
Isn't poundland currently going into administration? lol
@Tom Ryan try B&M have you been down the high street lately?
The opening remark of this thread couldn't be more wrong.
Mark Reckless xD well now, that's a name that inspire confidence!
is there a video explaining what lead to the English dislike towards the EU? 1975 and 1993 or whatever was brought up, but to those of viewers outside of the UK have zero idea what those years/dates are referring to.
The dislike started as soon as the UK joined the EEC, with butter mountains and wine lakes, while food prices shot up at the same time. Then the EU's VAT came in, which applied taxes to things which had never been taxed before. For a lot of people, there is no perceptible benefit from EU membership.
@@henrybn14ar As far as I know even to this very day taxes, including VAT, are controlled exclusively by national governments. The only things that the EU does that affects food, apart from quality standardization, is a system of subsidies and quotas pushed through back in the day by the French to protect their agricultural sector.
"Without any power"??
"The mob is Rome"
But Tories did not lose the referendum. Remain lost the referendum or David Cameron lost the referendum. As far as I know almost half of Tory MPs supported Brexit.
A good chunck did but how many were sincere and how many were just trying to appease there constituents so they wouldn't dump them for UKIP if they didn't push for Brexit is up in the air. I would say that plurality of the conservative that were for Brexit didn't actually believe in it but there not the mayority. Which is why this was doom from the get go. The lesson here is that you shouldn't try to court the more extreme member of your idealogical party. The gain of power come with heavy price. So you have to bite the bullet and work with the opposition and compromise for the good of the country even if it cost you your job. Because idiot sell shit that they can't deliver the whole May redline is living example of that nonsense. They put themselves into corners because they refuse to accept the limit of there power. Because it mean having to make hard decition which hacks always avoid at all cost.
"no we're not against ukip" yeah alright buddy pull the other one
I think Iceland had pretty much that pound sign logo as promo stickers on their stuff.
Please explain the first past the post ruling.
Because PR wasn’t a thing, we had PR UKIP would have got seats meaning they would have to sort brexit before a referendum happened
I can't say I support their goals, but this does provide a very good example of the two ways campaigns can change government policy. The most obvious is by electing a different government, but it's often just as viable to raise support for an issue directly among voters, to force the government to change its mind in order to appeal to them.
Video on the Lisbon treaty? Don’t really understand it
As someone from the U.S., it's a bit bizarre to hear the m-word (manifesto) thrown around a lot by British politics. It's a bit of a dirty word over here... and may as well be synonymous with "evil plans".
spooky communists...oooOOooOOOoOOo
@@GreenZerg You Sir, are hilarious!
Eh. I gotta say, I’m not an influential person
I'd like an episode thats more opinionated about brexit. Im interested in what you think about it
Good video
Populism is a dangerous thing...
Not as dangerous as un-popularism.
As opposed to elitism???
Populism and popularism aren't the same.
Populism is usually used ba far left or far-right parties and is portrayed in a "us vs. them" fashion (e.g.: "workers vs capitalists" or "the people vs. the elite").
Oversimplified versions of arguments are quite popular in populist circles as everyone gets to "the final solution" much quicker than with talking about the actual problem and every little detail of it.
Popularism is actually doing something that the people want even if it hurts the voters, while the elected people are there to not just represent you, but protect you as well.
Imagine Prine William giving you a gun and saying: "Obey Gorge and whatever you do, don't kill or hurt him. I'll give you a palace if you do that." After a while, George asks you to shoot him.
At this point you're stuck and you really can't do the right thing to get the best out of the deal you had with William.
Yes, this is a simplified version of what's happening so there might be some flaws, but I think you understand my point.
Domen Bremec Populism isn’t inherently a bad thing. Trying to spin the narrative that it is is slanderous and reminiscent of the Red scare in the US or even the current Republican attitude to democratic socialism. Populism arises from a discontent with mainstream politicians which appear to favour the interests of themselves, and elitist class, big business or really any group that doesn’t represent the average person. We see it in France with Macron, populism there hasn’t arisen from nothing. In the UK we have a housing crisis.
Populism does often turn to a seemingly simpler solution, but sometimes that solution is the most logical one.
Oh, and populism can also appear among certain demographic groups in society where they feel misrepresented, downtrodden, discriminated against etc.
Well, this explains a lot. I didn't understand why there was ever a referendum in the first place that lead the whole Brexit mess. Thank you! This is such a great channel!
Btw: I think the title should be 'The Origins of Brexit'
Another side note: the lion logo is a blatant rip off of EPL! What a joke. Then they go backwards with their original terrible logo 😂
It would be cool if you did in depth honest video about the facts on why people chose to leave and why some chose to remain i feel it would help both sides understand each other better and open up a discussion of the pro's and cons of the debate in a civil setting
I like your videos and appreciate what your doing
Just followed you on Twitter
So how and why did the people of the UK vote in a referendum for a voting system that's less representative, gives the voters less power and gives the "political elite" and big parties more power?
What exactly is so bad about the UKIP logo? I can’t stand them as a party, but honestly I think their logo is a damn site better than the Conservative one. It looks like a child’s drawing!
Thank you. This was better than I could have managed. "Once upon a time there was a knuckle dragging caveman. He formed UKIP." As always very interesting.
I think this thing about Twitter is something that PR agencies use in the UK - I have never been asked in any other country to provide my figure for Twitter but frequently have been for CZcams, Facebook and Instagram. In many cases it strikes me as being a fundamental misunderstanding of what Twitter actually is or perhaps I don't understand.
Surly the point to make about the AV ref is that if the Tories had backed it and it passed then they would not have needed to fear UKIP.
Followed on Twitter as requested 😊
Thanks for the valuable information.
Not a single reference to the disproportionate number of invitations to appear on BBC television (Question Time etc)? I'd argue that the BBC have been the single most important factor in raising the profile of UKIP with the electorate.
To call what Farrage does "Debating" is a bit generous.
Rupert Murdoch's influence the elephant in the room whilst watching this video.
Twatter? Not a chance..
Followed on Twitter 👍
Stealth edit to the video title there TLDR
Ken Clarke : "Referendums are the act of the Devil"
hmm.. democracy , in other words "rule by people" , is the act of evil :) do I understand it correctly ?
Takes one to know one, Ken!
The leftists always show their true colors. It is not surprising that the vast majority of dictatorships have been perpetrated by the left.
@@boostav Ken Clarke who was Margaret Thatcher's Chancellor - a leftist - ok then lol
The lion logo looks amazing, ¿Why did þey go back to þat horrendous button?
Its what people remember. Also some far right groups use a lion logo.
I like the pound sign logo, it symbolises British sovereignty and the importance of keeping the pound which are both crucial issues to UKIP.
12% of the vote and 1 seat at the table out of 600 odd seats sounds legit to me.
The logo of the Brexit party is even worse than that of UKIP.
Brexit hasn't happened byt he way.
UKIP party members are not the only Eurosceptics in the UK, the referendum proved that THE MAJORITY of UK citizens are Eurosceptic, they don't want to be in the EU you don't have to be in UKIP to want to leave the EU, most people who want to leave the EU are not in UKIP.
Your premise and title are wrong they had the voice and support of the people and they still do
TLDR News, I would really like to see a video on voting systems. I am sure many other viewers would too.
Also, with a coalition government between Conservatives and the Lib Dems, would the Lib Dems sit with the government in power on the left, or with the opposition on the right.
Lib Dems are centrists. They can align themselves with either Conservatives or Labour, though hopefully they learnt their lesson from their reduction in power after the last coalition government not to give in so easily on their election promises.
@@blahdelablah While Lib Dems are theoretically centrist, they actually site on the centre left (a bit like the Democrats in America). Yes, they COULD align themselves with either political wing, they were wiped out in 2015 over what was seen as a total betrayal of their principles by aligning with the Conservatives before.
As a result if a general election is called soon, and its a hung parliament (which doesn't look too unlikely at this point), they would almost certainly align with the Labour party. Any other way would be serious long-term political suicide.
@@anthonybracuti6898 I'd argue that the mistake that the Lib Dems made wasn't in joining a coalition government with the Conservatives, it was how weakly they defended their policy positions. One memorable example is how they backtracked on raising university tuition fees. As a contrast, look at how the DUP have stood their ground during Brexit. You may not agree with their position, but it's absolutely clear that Conservatives have been attentive to their views. The Liberal Democrats were in a similar position back in 2015, they may have been a small part of the ruling government but they had influence they did not effectively use. I would say that was what cost them dearly in the subsequent general election, not the fact they were in a coalition government with the Tories.
@@blahdelablah that's probably true to a certain extent, however I happen to live in a very pro lib dem town and it's fairly clear that those who vote lib dem REALLY don't like the Tories.
@@anthonybracuti6898 It's interesting to me, but not surprising. To me Lib Dems are pretty much Tory-lite, just like in US politics where many Democrats can be seen as moderate Republicans. I live in a part of the country that alternates between electing Lib Dem and Tory MPs, and I would suggest that Lib Dems are flexible in their approach to elections. In areas like mine they'll run to the left to differentiate themselves from the Tories, and in areas with a stronger Labour presence they'll run to the right in order to differentiate themselves there. I'd struggle to identify a distinct policy that represented the Lib Dem platform, other than their support for a second Brexit referendum.
Loads of free appearances on the nations broadcaster - the BBC.
It's so weird to learn the Tories didn't want Brexit to happen when it all began.
Cameron (the UK's prime minister at the time of the Brexit referendum) was supporting the Remain side of the argument, and left as soon as the result didn't go his way. It's indicative of the uninformative coverage that Brexit has had that this isn't common knowledge.
They don’t bloody want it to happen now either.