⚽ Football Stadium Tours - Birmingham - Aston Villa - Wolves - West Brom - Walsall - Coventry City ⚽
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- The Midlands around the Birmingham area is home to 6 historic football teams: Wolverhampton Wanderers, Walsall, West Bromwich Albion, Aston Villa, Birmingham City & Coventry City. Some of these teams form some very nasty rivalries in English Football and if you’re from the Midlands, you’ll have probably visited most of these stadiums. But what’s the stadiums actually like to go around? Which is better? Molineux Stadium or the Hawthorns? St Andrews or Villa Park? Bescot Stadium or the Coventry Building Society Arena?
Ninh explains!
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Keep an eye out for stadium tours of three of these clubs in future videos! :)
Can you do greater Manchester clubs
A fun fact not many people know is that villa weren’t just one of the founding members of the English football league, they were the founders. It was the villa chairman at the time who initially proposed the idea to the other clubs and set the whole thing in motion
Yes, that's correct. William McGregor.
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@@UltimateBucketList if it wasn't for the Scottish...... ✊🏻❤️🏴💪🏻
Another fun fact is that one of Aston Villas' 1st kits was basically a Scotland kit complete with lion rampant!
Still scumbags tho!
I'm an American West Brom fan and did the tour at The Hawthorns a few years ago when went I went over to England. Not very flashy, but they are very welcoming. There's no museum at the stadium, but a lot of historical posters and artefacts in the corridors. And some actual trophies... including the 1920 first division trophy. The guide I had was quite knowledgeable. And when I mentioned that I was a Yank visiting from California, they gave me a stack of matchday programmes.
I can believe that. It's great that they sent you back to the US with a boatload of programmes though!
Gotta love the outside of Aston Villa. Beautiful architecture. 💯
I also just got back from a UK football stadium tour...but was unable to make it to Birmingham. Very jealous you were able to stop by Villa & Birmingham City. Great work! 👍🔥
Indeed! The brickwork at Villa is probably it's most famous feature.
Maybe one day you'll come back and visit these!
@@UltimateBucketList I for sure will! It was cool to see it from your point of view, thanks for that & keep up the awesome content man! Maybe we can do a collaboration in the future 🤙
vile park its a shed
@@bcfcbennjy99 and your moms a bike so that’s where she belongs. The shed.
@@bcfcbennjy99 keep on embarrassing yourself little man, this is why everyone laughs at Small Heath 🤣
Love these sort of videos! Looking forward to the next ones :)
Thanks bro. New video coming up this week!
Great video mate - showcases how dense this area is for football clubs and stadia. The pitch on the back of Walsall is astro usually used for the community side of the club such as summer training camps - our training ground is in essington. We’ve recently had new American owners trivela group and they have committed to revamping the Saddlers club so hopefully it’s back up and running in the near future. 👍🏻
Yeah absolutely. Where I'm from (Lancashire) it's kind of the same. Ah I didn't know that about Walsall's training ground, I did think it was a little small?
Another great video Ninh really looking forward to your stadium tour videos
Thanks Jason! I've pre-edited them, they'll drop one week after another starting this week :)
Yes Ninh! Great to see you in the Midlands!
I'm in Birmingham a lot for work, but I never get a chance to explore the place. Usually I'm in and out, so to spend a day going around all the stadiums was a refreshing (albeit a long) change.
Great video as per usual dude. Well done.
Thank you my friend.
fantastic video they keep getting better and better
Thank you Stuart!
Up the baggies, great video mate 👍
Thank you my friend! 👍
Thank you I've been waiting for this video for so long
The better one is still to come ;)
@@UltimateBucketList can't wait 😁😁
Great video love to see content from all across the league's 👏👍 great video
Thanks!
@@UltimateBucketList great video pal As a city fan been to both every season since lockdown of course you get about a bit don't you
@@lukechadwick507 I try!
@@UltimateBucketList good I subscribed as well mate
Looking forward too the villa video 🦁
For sure!
Midlands have some great stadiums, some of the best.
Yeah they were okay. Did some tours at some of them.
Thanks, Ninh. Great video!
Thanks my friend!
I’ve been waiting for this video !
Good.
I went to Coventry stadium for 2 days during the commonwealth games, it was an awesome place to watch rugby sevens, I never got a bad seat, I'm also a Wasps RFC fan, so it was nice to go back there after 8 years.
It's definitely a nice stadium and I wish I could go to an actual game there. I'm a Northampton Saints fan for Union, so hopefully I'll get to check out a game there ... when I'm not driving three hours to Northampton of course!
@@UltimateBucketList go to Coventry game
Great content, sir. Re: Villa Park. There will be a redevelopment of the North Stand commencing next year. Recommend you check out the designs if you haven't already done so. Look forward to the stadium tour. UTV
I believe so yes. It looks pretty good.
Looks a great day out!! London ones next? If you need a travel buddy, i’m down!!
I did all the London ones in separate videos, but if you want to do this yourself it'll take you just a day to see all 6.
Actually did the Wolves, Villa and Blues ones whilst I was down there.
Loved this video!! When are the separate tours out?
Probably some time this week, but I'll space them out so they won't be all at once!
Looking forward to that Villa Park-St. Andrew's video. UTV!
It's coming!
As a Blues fan. Thanks for Tahith Chong and can't wait for Birmingham City Stadium tour!
He's a good player, shame he can't break into our first team, especially now.
I think they'll let him go eventually.
And thanks!
Nice one, got to see most of them and worked at villa Park and wolves. There's something homely about the Hawthorns.
Cool! And yeah, something definitely homely about The Hawthorns.
Very homely the hawthorns, it’s because everyone there is related. One big family
@@francisc8846 send your wife and daughter over sometime mate. I’ll tell the lads in the Smethwick end to give them a banging welcome to the family vibes. Boing boing. 👍🏼🏴🏴🇬🇧🤫🤫😉😉
Yesss all Midlands teams in one. Including the mighty villa. Good video ninh
Thank you sir!
I'm going to Coventry and West brom away later this season (following my club Norwich) so this was useful. I've already been to the Molineux and Villa park and both are amazing stadiums. Brilliant video!
Thanks! Be careful outside the Hawthorns, it's incredibly crowded and you'll literally be in non-moving traffic if you drive anywhere near on a match day.
The CBS - you could probably get away with parking at the retail park opposite and it's easy to get in and out.
Cheers!
when you go to westbrom just get the train theres a station right next to stadium it much easier then driving to the stadium you can also get the tram from birmingham there
@@UltimateBucketList Amazing thank you very much! Yeah we're debating on maybe parking a bit further away earlier in the day and walking around for a bit or we might get the train. Thankfully its not till nearly end of the season so plenty of time to decide!
@@txrhv9743 Brilliant mate, thank you!
@@lukee4k934 np
West Brom season ticket holder of 15 years!
We were in the premier league for a long stint in the 2010s recently though we appear to be in trouble and the vibe at the stadium can be awful at times. On our day though the atmosphere is unmatched! There’s a video of the brummie road end singing the lord is my shepherd in the play off semi final against the villa 3 years ago and the noise in the stadium that day was nuts!
I can believe that the atmosphere is good at the Hawthorns.
Villa fan here with lots of West Brom fans in my family so get to go to a good few games. I’ve gotta say the atmosphere on that play off semi day was crazy 😂 I was in the hospitality surrounded by baggies fans so was pretty intimidated. Defo the best atmosphere I’ve heard at a baggies game
Loved the play off semi against Swansea , that was something special .
I’ve been to West Brom a few times, I like it as an away day 👍
Totally.
About the saddlers club, it used to be an amazing place for fans, both home and away, to sit, drink, eat and chill for so many years. However, when we went down into league two a few years ago, it's funding was cut and now left as a desolate remnant of what it used to be. But it was always a highlight when going to home games and it was always loved by home fans and praised by away fans.
It's a shame, because if I'm not mistaken - there's not much else around there that you can go to for pre or post match drinks?
@@UltimateBucketList no unfortunately. There is a hotel nearby which the away visitors go to but other than that there is nothing apart from the bonser suite in the double tiered stand
Loved this series! Would be great to see some East Midlands clubs next?
Derby County, Nottingham Forest, Leicester City, Notts County?
Thanks Jimmy. I'll consider it, though the last few tours I've done have been met with criticism and constant whiners, so my motivation to make more of these right now is pretty low.
@@UltimateBucketList ahh, to hell with them!! Though, I do understand how demotivating it must be 👎 you'll always have my support though, as well as MANY others who have equally loved this series!
Hope your well buddy.
@@golazzo_1884 Yeah Jimmy, I think you're right. There's always going to be people (mainly football fans) who don't care for what I do and I should probably ignore them. I'm sure there are plenty of people who actually like my content, so thanks for the kind words of encouragement!
Love this, great vid! UTV 💜
Thank you sir!
Would love for you to do a full stadium tour of West Bromwich Albion
I'll consider it. But they have to stop trying to sell me a Christmas party first!
Just for your information, in the Victorian era tha Villa chairman/founder/owner ,William Mcgregor was the man who came up with the league format. So, we was THEE founders of the football league!
UTV!
@@SonarFates UTFV!!
Whilst William McGregor is usually credited with spearheading the formation of the football league, realistically it was a collective agreement between the owners of the other clubs (including William Sudell of Preston North End) that broke away from the old format to bring professionalism to football.
The CCFC Matchday Atmosphere is incredible, you should come to a home game some time :)
I'll consider it!
@@UltimateBucketList good, you wont regret! for seating, I'd advise doing some research into "the corner", it's arguably the loudest stand in the championship, alternatively you could sit in the corner across from it (which is where I normally sit)
It would be nice to see what are the future visions of the stadiums, and also concept stadium designs of the future.
I believe there's some guy on CZcams that already does that? Lots of them in fact.
Hey Ninh do you mind if you can do the Derby County stadium tour I heard it is rearly good.
I'll consider it, but I have no immediate plans to be in Derby over the next few months.
Villa park the home of football
Depends how you look at it.
But remember - when William McGregor helped found the football league, Aston Villa's home ground was Wellington Road, not Villa Park.
Yes I know thanks
Brilliant video mate 👍, have you done Bayern Munich yet?
Not yet, but I plan to go to Munich either later this year or early next year.
You reckon you'll do a wba stadium tour? I've found a link to book one if you like.
I would have done one on the same day as Wolves if they did it. But their staff aren't the most helpful and the system is shockingly bad.
I don't make a habit of rewarding incompetence!
I wasn’t the biggest fan myself of the CBS at first, only until last season I started to enjoy going there because the atmosphere is electric. In the future if wasps keep struggling financially then we could have the possibility of buying it and in years to come we can start making history in it. I’ve got to be honest I’d much rather stick with what we have then take a gamble and lose that special atmosphere as the fans are relatively close to the pitch still and SINGERS CORNER. Nothing will beat highfield road but now I’m happy with the CBS arena
It's a nice stadium - I know you guys are being held over a barrel at that place, but you never know ... some rich guy could buy both clubs and start a sporting empire out of Coventry!
If Wrexham can be bought by Hollywood A-Listers, anything's possible!
I love the Hawthorns yet the Halfords lane stand is to small. I understand that the main road makes it harder to expand that stand, but it's still possible. Adding an upper tier of about 4,000 seats would increase the capacity to just over 30,000, for me our current capacity of 27,000 is not good enough for today's game. Also the Corners of the West Stand could have upper tiers too
I think realistically, they wouldn't spend that sort of money just to up the capacity by 3,000 people. It'll cost more than they'll ever get back in gate money.
It'd have to be a sizeable upgrade in order for a team like West Brom to pull the trigger.
Could you do the East Midlands next, 4 great clubs in derby notts county forest and Leicester, loads of history within the clubs and amazing fans
I'll consider it.
Leicester is near Birmingham isn't it?🤔
How do you get a stadium tour inside West Brom and Birmingham City? I have tried to get into those two clubs but they have rejected having a stadium tour.
Birmingham City generally do tours in the off season, whilst West Brom only do them on selected days throughout the year. You just have to keep your eye on the website for availability.
Villa Park is a wonderful stadium. Pele, George best, Michel Platini, Paolo Rossi have all played there. History is alive.
Indeed it is! Be sure to stick around for the video of Villa Park dropping in a couple of weeks.
Ninh I recommend you do the East Midlands Clubs’
e.g Leicester City, Nottingham Forest, Notts County and Derby County. That would be cool
I'll consider it.
Coventry has a hotel and a casino inside no mention, also the arena is empty as they are packing up its used all the time for various reasons
Not really a selling point of the stadium, especially given that I couldn't go into either of them on that day.
Details for Walsall its not the training ground although a lot of the younger squads probably do train there as for the saddlers club the new owners look to get it back open again to help generate more money for the club, the led screen also helps generate money for the club. Main issue we do have is trying to get the freehold for the stadium from the former owner and the new owners kinda promise to do so
I believe so, yes. You're correct on all those points, hope you get the freehold for the stadium!
When you coming up to Yorkshire? Bramall lane/Sheffield/Hillsbrough Elland road/Leeds Bradford Middlesbrough Rotherham Doncaster and many more
You mean 'across' (I live in Lancashire) - probably when I get time to, but because the views are so low for these stadium tours, it doesn't give me motivation to make more.
Villa weren't just one of the original twelve, they were the club that started the league.
Actually Aston Villa didn't start the league. It required 11 other teams as well. One team cannot start a league. However a William McGregor proposed a league and got the others involved, and Mr McGregor was a Villa man.
@@michaelketley876 Splitting hairs a bit there aren't you Michael. But just for you...
Bloke who was Villa chairman had an idea for a league and using the influence his position brought him he invited 11 other clubs to form a league with his club.
@@paulhanson5164 not so much splitting hairs but enduring that William McGregor got the credit he deserved for having the idea and making contact with representatives from the other clubs.
Also the only club to have an FA Cup stolen.
Comments like that are the reason nobody like villa fans.
Walsall and Coventrys ground is fun to go to
For sure!
Glad you came to the CBS Arena - we don’t do stadium tours because we don’t own the stadium (London wasps rugby do) unfortunately , but you are welcome at the CBS to come and watch a game anytime
That makes sense. But yeah, I plan to come to the stadium when the Northampton Saints are in town. Come on you Saints!
@@UltimateBucketList just a quick warning, the wasps don’t have many fans and average around 4-5k a game, dead atmosphere. on the other hand I strongly recommend you go to a Coventry city game as there is a possibility that you will be happily satisfied after the game while driving home!
@@skyblues8785 Duly noted!
Be great if you visited the city ground. Love your videos. Great guy and very engaging. Will never understand al, the stick you got when visiting rangers in the Celtic shirt. It’s just football. Yes,we all love it but keep it in context. We are all fans end of the day
Thanks Robert. I don't know if Forest to actual stadium tours, but I'll consider it.
As for the stick ... it's a totally different mentality up there.
Nice Video 👍
You didn't even watch it yet bro! But thanks! :)
@@UltimateBucketList I watched a bit of it but I knew it was going to be a banger video 🔥
Can't wait to see how you feel about Molineux, also Wolves is absolutely one of the best atmospheres in the prem, just my opinion. Wolves Ay We!
The tour itself was pretty good. Video should be dropping on Friday!
Ooo idk about that, it’s amazing from time to time but Leeds and forest are way ahead imo
Great content, Shame you had to be subjected to St Andrews though....UTV
It wasn't so bad ... I've been to worse grounds.
Shame he got subjected to villa but you cant avoid it can you really 😂
I know this is a hard ask but could you do the stadiums in London at some point if not London maybe south London
Check out my channel dude, I already did most of them.
@@UltimateBucketList its because he wants you to do millwall 😂
@@bcfcfantv5339 Millwall only do tours on matchdays and in booked groups of 20, so there's little chance I'd actually get to go on one myself. Apparently it's alright though.
The Coventry stadium is nice it would look good in the premier league
It'd suit the premier league, definitely.
Also WBA also have our own station !
Yes
Villa Park. Nothing else in the Midlands comes close to the beauty of it
Out of the 6, possibly yes.
Compared to other stadiums around the world, probably not.
Hey ninh the reason why st Andrews was shut off was because of the construction work commencing on the lower kop and tilton soon so its shut off but normally you are able to go behind the main stand
Ah, that explains it.
It's closed because its falling down closed for safety reasons it's rotten and full of asbestos fact .
This video is a ultimate tour for these stadiums.
Thank you.
Coventry City's stadium is an absolute boom box on match day, sit in "the corner" with the die hards and you'll leave deaf. might look all corporate on the outside but inside is beautiful
I'll have to take your word for it, but I can believe that.
Video idea I dare you to were a villa shirt at Birmingham city stadium for a match
I wouldn't bother wasting my money.
When are the stadium tours coming on CZcams
Probably some time this week, but I'll space them out so they won't be all at once!
The Hawthorns was the scene of Manchester United's last game under Sir Alex. The game finished something like 5-5.
That's correct!
some claim to fame that....lol...tinpot
I was there. Fergie's reaction, " Football , bloody hell ! "
Alast a video on the mighty second city
Indeed. More videos like this to come.
Do a Coventry stadium tour pls I’m a Coventry fan pls please do it 😢
I don't believe they do them?
@@UltimateBucketList they do
Also the cbs arena is formally known as the recho arena
The Ricoh Arena, yes.
When outside the hawthorns regarding being diverted from tour page the ‘as much as I’d like to book a Christmas party “ comment ,pmsl 😂
I just looked ... they finally sorted the website.
So now I can do a Stadium Tour AND book a Christmas Party! 😂
such an underrated footballing region, but I'm a Wolves fan from the west of Ireland so what can I say
I don't know about underrated, but there seems to be a lot of clubs within driving distance of Birmingham, for sure.
Actually do a tour of the Coventry stadium but make sure it’s football related not rugby 😂, plus the Cov fans do make the ground feel more alive and you would get your money’s worth when going to a game. Also the way the roof is designed traps in all the sound so the stadium generates a lot of sound, you only need to shout and you’ll easily be heard from the opposite stand
I don't believe they do one.
@@UltimateBucketList I know people that have had private tours for curious people, not like what villa and blues do (public tours)
@@skyblues8785 ah, I see. Might try that next time I'm around the area.
Do Essex and London
I already did London in separate videos.
I don’t know where you get the idea weve bounced between leagues for ages. We were in the premier league for 8+ years before 2018?
Even you'll have to admit that you've been relegated and promoted from the Premier League more than most.
Please could you do nottingham forrest
I'll consider it.
Did you get a tour of the hawthorns ?
Nope ... couldn't get one.
You should go to the city ground
I've been - it's okay.
@@UltimateBucketList Video?
@@Oltheboll not likely.
@@UltimateBucketList okay
London Premier League Clubs 👀 Maybe Chelsea vs Fulham?
You might want to check out the rest of my videos on the channel ... did most of them already.
@@UltimateBucketList respect but you still haven't done the most historic club in London yet.. #ffc 👀
I’m surprised (kinda) that you didn’t do Solihull Moors but you did Walsall, as Solihull nearly got promoted to the EFL last season losing in the final. But I get why because they are non league.
I have no intention of doing non-league teams, otherwise I'd be here all day filming clubs for a video that no-one will watch. Seriously.
thoughts on united this season?
Just come home from the Arsenal match. They've turned it around since the two disaster games at the beginning of the season, but there's still work to be done and a couple of players that need to be signed (a right back and a striker). I think we're on the right track, but it'll take a couple of seasons with this group of players and manager for them to work effectively properly.
Glory Glory Manchester United 🙌
@@Amaking10000 hell yeah!
kidderminster harriers + solihull moors? or as i call them, "Airport Lovers FC"
They barely count as football teams?!
So you don't count Nottingham Leicester n Derby as midlands?
"Midlands" is such a vague term, I was referring to the Birmingham (ish) area teams.
@@UltimateBucketList yeah i gathered that being British but non Brits won't. You easily could of said west midlands or mention i will do a east mids video soon
@@davidmarchant9386 respectfully, anybody with eyes would have looked at the thumbnail and immediately realised that all the teams listed are around Birmingham. The first line of the description reads: "The Midlands around the Birmingham area is home to 6 historic football teams:". So there is little confusion as to what area I'm referring to.
@@UltimateBucketList only if you are a Brit how hard is that for you to understand
@@davidmarchant9386 realistically, non-Brits wouldn't even know where the Midlands is, let alone the difference between West Midlands or East Midlands. Therefore, what you're trying to argue is an incredibly moot point. I see nothing wrong with the way I have referred to the area of which I'm referring to, and I make no apologies for it.
If you don't like it, that's fine, but I believe you're the only one that has this problem with this video.
9:47 absolutely not! 😂
Yeah, I think I was optimistic about that. I blame the heatstroke that I suffered on the day 😂
@@UltimateBucketList ah okay. Brilliant video though, from a West Brom fan 😅👍
Walsall technically have a big enough stadium for the premier league as the minimum is 10,000 seats
They do, but getting there is a different story altogether.
UTV!
indeed
SKY BLUE ARMY!!
Indeed! Hopefully you guys will have some level of stability going forward.
Being homeless isn't fun.
@@UltimateBucketList your hope has evidently brought us great fortune. It’s Been a blast supporting the midlands best club over the past year
You fell for the common trick of branding west brom a yo yo club. It wasn't to long ago the club spent 9 years consecutively in the Premier league
Maybe so, but even you'll admit that they've been promoted and relegated from the Premier League more than most.
KRO thanks for showing off our wonderful stadiums bar Village Park of course 🤣 Looking forward to seeing your video of St. Andrews although sad you visited whilst we have our not so active repairs.
Thanks bro. I'm sure you'll see that video soon enough.
That lower tier been getting fixed for the last 2 years will be 2027 till fixed
shame that birmingham city’s stadium is in the state it’s in currently. The bottom tier of the tilton has been closed for ages and is in need of repair. Doesn’t feel the same on a matchday when half the stadium is closed
Yeah for sure. BCFC just need some money investing in absolutely everything and I'm sure they'll be back in the Prem soon enough.
@@UltimateBucketList We need new owners entirely. We get near enough no investment and the squad is falling apart again. Sadly this season is looking like another relegation fight.
Do you think man Uniteds transfer window has been disgraceful from the last ten years knowing that your a man United fan I would like to know your opinion
Not really. I think people are taking their frustrations out on the owners, but they've actually spent money and trying to bring in players. Whether those players pan out or not is a different story. But this season remains to be seen.
St Andrews is most definitely not one of the classic grounds in England. In fact at this moment in time it’s in the state of collapse.
"Classic" doesn't have to mean that it's any good or in decent condition. I'd argue that Old Trafford is in much worse condition ... and I go there every week.
CBS also have a casino
Yes, but not really a selling point of a football stadium.
It's pronounced Smevick. The W is silent lol
Would it not be Smethick, not Smevick?
Sometimes I've heard that word with the W pronounced.
Be great for the future plans for Molineux proposing a 70,000 stadia!
I doubt they'd ever get planning permission for 70,000 - would be interesting to see though.
West Brom Are The Pride Of The Midlands!!! 💙
There's at least 5 other teams that might disagree with you on that one.
Hope you remembered to wipe your feet when you left the Molineux
Nah it was pretty clean.
#UTV
Indeed.
Hawthorns looks like a "very modern deepdale"... well yes Ninh...dumpdale is in a land of its own...
Deepdale really isn't that bad. Basic, yes, but not bad at all.
"Blood thirsty Villa fans" - 😂#avfc
You know what I mean ... the hardcore ones!
Walsall is the most viewed stadium in the league..
If you go by people whizzing past it on the motorway ... then yes!
@@UltimateBucketList exactly..so I'm right 😎
Villas ground can also be clearly seen from a motorway. The Aston Expressway from Spaghetti Junction to City Centre.
@@ianpodmore9666 true but the amount of traffic that goes past walsall compared to villa park is greater..villa park is the best view though 😎
@@revansavfc Bescot stadium can be a very easily missed driving on the M6. You would have to be blind to miss Villa Park. The Hawthorns is only 600 meters from the M5, but I am pretty sure you can't see it from the motorway.
I'm a not a fan of the city Birmingham to gloomy for me. But I'm a big fan of peaky blinders so I'll give them that 👍
I've been to gloomier cities here in the UK, but I get what you mean.
Have you been anywhere near the city centre in recent years ? All that 50s and 60s brutalist architecture has gone.
Centre of brum is sound.go half a mile in any direction and its an utter shit hole