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- You have Tom Hanks, who is as captivating as ever. You have Julia Roberts playing a oil-rich Texan religious fanatic, as spellbinding as usual. Finally you have Philip Seymour Hoffman, who stuns us with the stand-out performance of the whole damn thing.
Charlie Wilson's War (2007): Dramatization of the life of the US congressman who launched a behind-the-scenes campaign to defeat the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan by secretly arming the Mujahideen. - Krátké a kreslené filmy
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we f***ed up the end game."--Charlie Wilson
and the Zen master said "We'll see..."
For a ‘scotch-drinking Texan who loves to chase women’ he sure was effective-AND prophetic
“The ball keeps on bouncing”
That was an awesome movie.
The movie definitely was done very, very well.. The book was better.
Then the speech from Gus at the end… brilliant…
He for sure was a man of great vision. The ball did always bounce and countries of power tried to use that force achieve their own goals, not realizing that it can bounce back as well
It would be very interesting if Charlie could be interviewed today to see his point of view.
He doesn't talk much anymore, been dead for 9 years
He’s been diagnosed as either dead or extremely still.
Great story, Great movie! 🔥🔥👍👍👍👍💪💪💪
Last two minutes of the video, yes, history repeated it again in 2021
Do not ever forget Amy fkin Adams....oh that ponytail.
Interesting that the tech adviser said "people were scared of trusting the afgans. Prophetic for sure.
And here we are
This is the best representation of how the Congress appropriates money for little wars everywhere.
Talk about a prophetic statement. Morley Safer nailed it.
What a great movie!!
Phillip Seymour Hoffman was absolutely fantastic in this film...as well as Tom Hanks but Phillip stole the show in my opinion.
Beware the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger, the wrath of the Afghans
Give him credit, he was right 11:17
+Marcellis Robinson How was he right if you guys help the Islamic fundamentalist to win the war? You really think that Islamic fundamentalist + money/infrastructure = modern democracy? Lol. You guys are so stupid!
+Jernej Blatnik
Who says rebuilding the country will help the fundamentalists win? By doing so, the U.S. is making it harder for the fundamentalists to gain adherents among the other Afghans.
I'm reluctant to enter into a conversation with you, Jernej, because you sound like someone who didn't learn much after the 8th grade.
Marcellis Robinson What? Read my statement again.
You guys help fundamentalist win the war! What, you think you guys funded moderate rebels in Afghanistan? And when it was all over, they somehow become fundamentalist? Lol!
It's just like saying that now that we helped ISIS win the war in Syria. We will help Syria to build infrastructure so that terrorist will not take the country.
So , it's you who has to go to school again.
@@Kintabl The Taliban was NOT the Mujaheedin. However after the Soviet backed government fell, lack of support from America led to civil war which brought rise to the Taliban.
So Charlie Wilson was right. America fucked up the end game.
@@Kintabl Basically what the issue was that they played the game, beat the Russians and left without cleaning up. The stockpile of weapons and a generation of fighters who got no other skill, no one even tried to provide them with an alternative. The never installed a strong govt that could prosper. The neighbors used them till they become fed up of the consequences of befriending them.
Funny how we “loved” the country so much and 10 years later, (and since) have called them nothing but terrorists
Ty - you really that stoopid? The memebers of the Taliban are the bad guys not the general Afghani... Three tours there.
@@robertboston9778 i.e. "the crazies rolling into Kandahar", as PSH's Gust put it.
@@robertboston9778 anyone who killed US soldiers in Afghanistan are good guys in my book
Oh I get it, and your correct. But the ideology responsible, on both sides after the towers fell was horrible and perpetuated the cycle further. The extremist Muslims and the endless war machine still exists.
@@robertboston9778 One of the Mujhadeen members trained as part of Wilson’s program was a young officer named Osama Bin Laden, I’m sure that his name never came up again.
Roberts rocked the character. its the key and she did it well and diplomatic.
Wish they had made a movie about Gust while Hoffman was still alive, after reading the book I was more interested I'm more interested in Gust than Charlie Wilson
PSH absolutely stole, and made, the movie. Hanks could have stepped out and let Wilson play his own role. Hoffman made Gust a great character. The ladies were awesome as well...
NOT
He absolutely stole every scene
not really. The Afghans, mainly Pushtun, defeated Russia with Charlie's help. That helped to end the cold war for the U.S., very cheaply. It cost 2 billion, what a single B-2 bomber costs now. So it was a huge success, and remains a history changing strategy.
we didn't stick around to reconstruct a stable country, we bail out before the job is done as always....
@Moon Watcher kid learn some history! Cuban communist infiltration INTO Latin America has been well documented! OK! The Sandinistas, the Colombian drug cartels, the leftists movements in south America, ALL supported and even funded from Cuba... I know (born and raised IN Cuba in the 1960's and 1970's here). Now Cuba is broke, and Latin America is a mess due to us not really getting involved there, and pushing for democratic free governments... the legacy of the Cold War. Two bit dictatorships, corrupt governments, and even a few communist totalitarian governments is what you have in Latin America today... "but the ball keeps on bouncing..." we always to the same thing... we do some work, then walk away before the job is done. And kid, Trump is great, is keeping idiot communists POS away from taking power in this country, thank God!
Cuban American ex-communist Cuban Pionero here, 1980 Mariel Boatlift communism escapee, and then MM1/SS, United States Navy Nuclear Submarine Force, 20 years of service, 1987-2008, Retired here.
Colonialism would have been better than hoe america storms in causes a power vacuume then leave.
That's the sin. Forgoing our white man's burden. Everyone else doesn't realize how hard it is.
Been sticking around for a while in this latest one.
We're still there. 20 yrs later. Problem really is Pakistan letting the Taliban cross over the border to winter and recover. We'd have to flatten the whole place
omg. his staff irl were really all bombshells
I love history movies; bios, ect. And even thought hollywood destroys history, I still enjoy a good history movie. Charly Wilson's War for what it's worth is ok.☺
Wish we had politicians like this again
We do. But it's covert. From a signaller.
Why, he created a mess.
The Afghans are not a nation, but tribes.
They are brave but fanatical.
Most do and did not want democracy.
The US, in its naïveté, created a disaster which will cost the dearly.
The ball keeps bouncing
And taken over by the terrorist is exactly what happened. I grew up in Rep. Wilsons district. he was everything Tom Hanks portrayed in the movie. What is even more pointed is how he got into politics,
According to Wilson himself, he first entered politics as a teenager by running a campaign against his next-door neighbor, city council incumbent Charles Hazard. When thirteen years old, Wilson's fourteen-year-old dog entered Hazard's yard. Hazard retaliated by mixing crushed glass into the dog's food, causing fatal internal bleeding. Following this incident, Wilson obtained a driver's permit and drove ninety-six voters to the polls in his family's two-door Chevrolet. As patrons left the car, Wilson told each of them that he didn't want to influence their vote, but that the incumbent Hazard had purposely killed his dog. After Hazard was defeated by a margin of 16 votes, Wilson went to his house to tell him that his black constituents voted to defeat him and he "shouldn't poison any more dogs." Wilson cited this as "the day [he] fell in love with America."
@tylerlopes476 Movie didn't have the 'people voted your a$$ out of office' part. 😉
I know someone that was in "The Shop" that worked with him to make the USSR run away from Afghanistan. That is all I can say.
‘Merica never saw an arms deal it didn’t like.
I was a youngun, when all this happened. But I do remember charlie on 20/20, or some other news reels, not understanding.. much like the zen master says.."we'll see".. i cast no blame... but speaking of cast.... the women in the film, and in real life he was around.. wooo weeee! ? I loved the movie. A land based hunt for red october..
If you mixed up DNA from Johnny Cash and David Letterman, you'd get a Charlie Wilson.
Charlie you did it
Charlie and Gus with information, were right about the future of Afghanistan. 😊
I think it's weird how much he looks like 'Sully' Sullenberger...
I’d vote for him.
If the strategists know enough to predict a given outcome, why then can't something be done to cause a more beneficial result? U.S. policy makers just make the same mistakes over and over.
+modelleg Yep. Its called politics. Sucks, doesn't it?
They're not mistakes when your friends at Raytheon, Boeing, General Dynamics,KBR, Carlisle group, big Oil, big Banks and big everything are shoveling money into your bank hands over fist...There hasn't been ideology or foreign policy mechanics for the good of man --EVER. It's destroy man and steal everything...
@@godbluffvdgg dont forget haliburton lol
I wonder what Charlie Wilson would think of Afghanistan today.
He’ll say: “I told you so.”
@@noersang I don't think so.
@Walter K Bauer Exactly. We've spent 4 trillion, and nothing to show for it - except maybe the death of bin Laden. And it hasn't changed anything, except for the worse. Charlie Wilson wanted to get involved in what he, and we, saw as an admirable cause. Didn't turn out to be that simple.
@Walter K Bauer That is delusional, fantastical, and wishful thinking - that 9/11 would not have happened if we had done better in Afghanistan? Nuts. What about all the years we have been there since? If there was ever any hope of offering this country a unified, stable government, there has been more than enough time to make up for mistakes. Yeah, I used to think we ephed up by leaving too soon. And maybe the end result would have been a little better - but not by great margins. Libya, Iraq - all good examples of why we shouldn't try to be the world cops. NVM, think what you will. Charlie Wilson would have been shocked by what evolved. And his response would never have been so simplistic as "I told you so". No, Charlie Wilson was a thinking man - and he would have THOUGHT about what has happened, and he would probably have come up with something a heck of a lot more concrete than that.
Your washingmaschiene is dripping water. Someone tells you to spend 20 bucks to fix it. Instead, you let it drop for 10 years and your house is rotten and moldy. The guy comes back and says: "I told you so" And you? ... nahnaaa!! I spend 300 bucks on a new waschin maschiene last year and "and nothing to show for it- "
What I want to know is if the story about his dog and his neighbor when he was a kid is true or not.
Are you sure with Tom Hanks is only a remodel of an earlier version of Charlie Wilson’s war. I personally thought the original was much better.
some1 who owned the boarding house that a rented a basement room from, basically an old land lord
Mr Wilson was a badass and honorable, but unfortunately naive and idealistic about Afghanistan.
I spent five years there. There is no fixing that country to be what we want it to be
You’re wrong, just look at Japan, S.Korea, Germany, etc we defeated them and stayed. Shouldn’t we move some of those assets to Afghanistan and leave them there?
Point of fact=in the Hindu Kush region over 1 trillion dollars of rare earth minerals are waiting to be mined.😢
Charlie Wilson is a National Treasure
They don’t elect people like Charlie Wilson anymore
They don't make'em anymore.
Fredrik Jägare Lilja
You’ve got that right. We’re raising pansies in the U.S. now thanks to our horrible school system and liberal medial brainwashing people.
@@fredrikjagarelilja9974 This is true
Mike Lee
And now we've been doing it to them since 2003.
He didn’t do it for oil or anything else, he did it because it was the right thing to do
Problem, reaction, solution
and unfortunately we didn't follow up. That ball kept on bouncin.
History repeating itself with Kurds right now
Big time.
Except supposedly we're needing to protect them from our NATO ally Turkey??? Something does not compute. If the Kurds need our protection from Turkey then NATO is a joke and Turkey should be kicked from it or we should leave. If Turkey is a good ally then why do we need to protect the Kurds from them?
We helped create the Taliban which led to, well you know….
Us repeating Russian mistakes
"I love sticking it to the russians."
When Genghis Khan ruled the world there was one area he never conquered, and that was Afghanistan. They are really tough. i only wish our politicians studies history.
You’re not wrong. The Afghan terrain is hell and the Afghan people are tough as nails.
Not only Genghis Khan the British ultimately failed as well
Big assumption to say you can help them" build a country". How has that worked out since 2002?
This was the SOVIET UNIONS, VIETNAM had we allowed them to break these people at the Time, it would of been our loss and their gain , this war was their DEMISE, when we walked out on them it turned into what it is today, WE dropped the ball as we did in VIETNAM, trial and error, but RUSSIA failed as well, no one wins when people suffer.
Tom Hankopoulos
Wilson!!!...oops wrong movie.
different world
Charlie was last of its kind They don't make'em anymore.
If only they listened.
And the Afghans lived happily ever after...
Where is Gust. Is he still alive.
"We fucked up the end game"---C.W
America can win any war but have no clue what to do with the peace.
@@paulritchie5868 What you do is the Marshall Plan. You build a strong ally from your defeated enemy.
A thought-provoking expose on Afghanistan. Who are they, where are they, and why should we care? Beyond the cultural / romantic considerations is the pragmatic / strategic question of air-sovereignty over the Straight of Hormuz.
Recent economic 'détente' between Moscow and Riyadh suggest that our European allies stand to suffer from the loss of diversity in their energy supply-chain. This may or may not operate to the advantage of the United States.
Naval Supremacy in the North Atlantic has been and will remain imperative!
Winston Churchill was willing to surrender his island nation's tenuous grasp on a global-empire in order to preserve that nation's kindred-ties to North America. Sir Winston was a clever man.
Representative Wilson made no pretense of cleverness, but somehow marched America's ball forward toward the goal-line. Luck and agility on-par with General George Washington ( minus the ethics ). ;-)
Is Afghanistan better off now than it was in the 1980s? Arguably not. Does that invalidate Charlie Wilson’s efforts? Arguably not. There are many historical examples of countries that experience a series of social, religious, political, or military calamities which more than anything else stem from an instability of governance.
What if they had gotten some money to rebuild?
Imagine Charlie Wilson in office now, dealing with an escalating "feud" with North Korea, and impending trade tariffs with the rest of the world. What would Charlie do? Could he succeed?
Trump succeeded and made peace no need for Charlie ;)
Nega Scott Trump bowed down to Kim, and fake tough talk about Iran. Truly pathetic.
@@agents6629 bowed down? yeah sure just indiscriminately bombing countries to ash worked so much better huh it's not like that shitstain strategy never bit the USA in the ass oh wait.. Trump did good with his policies, give the man whether you like or hate him probs where probs are due.
Nega Scott Can’t give props to a reality tv host that nobody wants to work for. I actually voted for the idiot, and now I’ve realized my mistake
@@agents6629 Well I for one am glad you did. I mean the economy is at an all time high the man didn't start new wars (yet) and doesn't back down to tumblr social justice warriors and feminazis lol. And I mean what was the other option? Hillary Clinton? the most corrupt and vile candidate I ever seen run for office.. 2020 is looking even more fucked all you get to choose for on the Democrat side is SJW's and Neo-Marxists x') If I was an American I def be voting for Trump.
We need more patriots like this today
Patriots who fund Osama Bin Laden and help build the Taliban and Al Qaeda? Those Charlie Wislon funded and helped equip, came back to America in 2001 to return the 'favor'
Gardes
Yhe Afganistan it blew back on 9/11/2001
And he was right.
If Charlie Wilson was alive today, I wonder what he would have thought of the debacle of the US withdrawal from Afghanistan in August 2021 ?
Real life John Wayne.
Bwahahahah…. John Wayne couldn’t shine Charlie Wilson’s shoes or carry his jockstrap
Charlie Wilson, a great American
This is what a real American looks like
The worst part of the whole mess in Afghanistan was that we failed them after they forced the USSR out. We should have helped them create a stable government. The GOP just decided to ignore the country.
What a waste for the US to go in there and do the same stupid thing the Soviets did
instead of just being weak and doing nothing, after you have been attacked ? That just attracts other terrorists
@@pteppig What terrorists from Afghanistan attacked the USA? Bin Laden was a Saudi
You would be laughed at if you said that at Lockheed Martin,Raytheon,general dynamics,General Electric, dynecor….etc…etc…etc
and then 911.....
He was so American, naive, well meaning and a disaster.
Charlie is the Lawrence of Arabia of Afganistan.
I can’t believe Charlie couldn’t scrape together $1lousyM for the Afghan schools after raising $2B a year earlier.
Well it was not a priority. They were busy with other PROJECTS!!!
Hahahah USA not caring to fund education in its own country
Good luck getting it in another
If they would have done what Charlie Wilson wanted, guess what?
Osama Bin Laden may not have gotten Real Pissed at the US A-holes in charge and just did Nothing but live in his country with a bunch of Schools with some Help for the Old and Young.
That would have went a very long way for Desert People.
Mesa, AZ
ARMY 1970-73
Mr. Wilson is rolling over in his grave.
9/11 puts that heroic story into perspective
What i don't understand is that the Americans could have read the Afghan history and realised that no one since Alexander the great has conquered these people. They are a law unto themselves ! Therefore taking them on as enemies was the worst choice they have made. However, once again their Foreign Policy and understanding of other peoples history and Culture sucks !
clone the man
PSH should’ve won, or at least been nominated, an award.. if those ‘awards’ weren’t *literally bought & paid for
Not my opinion, but Mr. Denzel Washington, after, he ‘won’ his Oscar. Hint:by & large, ‘winners’ are chosen by the quality of gifts voters receive
That’s a tried and true method of getting support. Show the suffering children and use peoples compassion to manipulate them. The US mined Vietnam, Cambodia, Korea, and ironically, and more recently Afghanistan the same as the Russians. That’s just a few, there’s many more. If you haven’t figured it out yet we’re not the good guys anymore, if we ever really were.
And it all backfired to America on 9/11 didn't it?
Why the debt is in the trillions?
Ask Obama
Underwater 0:35 seconds
I wish there was a lot more senators like Charlie Wilson give us our guns in our churches and leave us the hell alone
U.S. Representative 2nd District Texas, 1973-1997. Never a senator - though I agree with your gist.
Ridiculous lol
does he have a grandson?
The right kind of good o' boy Texan. Respectful to country, women, family. Last of a dying breed.
Gust was right.
Don't make the mistake of thinking that the mujahidin are a different faction than the taliban. They are largely the same. American money weaponized islam in Afghanistan. And that same weapon would later be pointed at the West. No reconstruction would have or will ever change that.
It's 2015 and we are still pursuing a useless goal. Alright , I know that Barry says we're out of there,the latter being pure poppycock
He partied. So what? So as long he got the job done then why care? You would’ve partied too. I guarantee it. I would’ve as well.
I don’t understand American politics. How comes a local politician gets to run a secret intelligence/military operation on the other side of the world? Shouldn’t that require national level decision makers? What does this have to do with Texas?
He was a Congressman for a district in Texas. That is National level politics, it's the Congress in Washington DC where he represented his constituents, not the Texan state legislature. However, it is a bit odd, even so. You'd think it would be more likely to be someone in the Executive branch of government to be in charge of a war. It would be in the UK anyway.
@@jimdoom2276 shouldn’t he invest his time and resource in affairs regarding Texas? This is a job for defense and/or foreign affairs department
@@G4x5da Yes, you are correct. However, I think it might be possible to argue that the issue of the Soviets expanding their sphere of World influence was in fact relevant to Texas, albeit indirectly. Also, above and beyond this, there are the humanitarian aspects to consider. Some people consider the wholesale slaughter of innocents to be a matter of concern to right thinking people everywhere, whether or not it is technically within their portfolio of authority. These are highly subjective points of course, but they can't be disregarded out of hand. At any rate, his constituents seemed pleased with his campaign in regards to Afghanistan, whether or not it was really their business.
Makes you wonder how much the Russians worked to support the Afghans when the US had troops there.
They didn't. Afghan were as much at war with Russia's allies as it was in 1990s. Hell, the entirety of heroin based drugs in Russia and Eastern Europe is Afghan made.
There's enough "supporters" Taliban has in the world today. 1989 wasn't US defeating USSR. It was ISLAM defeating a SUPER POWER.
World is NOT bipolar like in 1980s. It haven't been so for 30 years now man. WAKE UP.
The us armed Afghanistan. We are lucky they still owed us a debt of gratitude for ending the Soviet genocide or our planes and helicopters would be getting blasted