The Story Behind Art Dealer Jeffrey Deitch's Wooden Bowl

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  • čas přidán 3. 01. 2023
  • Art Dealer Jeffrey Deitch was one of the first people to bring skateboarding into a fine art gallery setting. We talked with him and his team of curators, Julia Chiang, and Cheryl Dunn about their infamous "Session The Bowl" exhibit from 2002 (where they brought in a giant wooden bowl made by Simparch) and the intersection of skateboarding and fine art today.
    More info: www.jenkemmag.com/home/2023/0...
    Produced by:
    Ian Michna ( / ian.michna )
    Alex Coles ( / slam_machine )
    Edited by:
    Alex Coles
    Additional Direction & Filming:
    Thomas Barker ( / tommy_barker_ )
    Alexis Castro ( / alexiscastro )
    Greg Navarro ( / gregpnavarro )
    Special Thanks:
    Simparch (www.simparch.org/free-basin/)
    Julia Chiang ( / juliachiang )
    Jeffrey Deitch ( / jeffreydeitchgallery )
    Cheryl Dunn ( / cheryldunn )
    Eli Morgan Gesner ( / ocularge )
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Komentáře • 128

  • @shimmeringtrashpile
    @shimmeringtrashpile Před rokem +181

    SIMPARCH built this bowl. Don't get it twisted. It's a crime they are erased in this video. They've been building bowls as skate-able sonic artworks since their first bowl in 2001 at the Hyde Park Art Center in Chicago curated by Hamza Walker. Deitch saw their bowl at Documenta and asked them to build the bowl in New York as an artwork in the show. Members of SIMPARCH are the designers and builders of the Supreme bowls.

    • @Jdog1681
      @Jdog1681 Před rokem +5

      Do you have any good reading materials to learn more about this? I'm curious.

    • @jruinz447
      @jruinz447 Před rokem

      Thank you

    • @mr.kidder4851
      @mr.kidder4851 Před rokem

      They should've mentioned them, but they included them in their links (thanks) Did they do the Smithsonian Bowl in DC as well, it was much bigger and half outdoors?

    • @kayleighohler9999
      @kayleighohler9999 Před rokem

      Jeffrey Deitch, the famous art dealing pedophile? Jeffrey Deitch, the same sex trafficker who has ruined the lives of 10s if not 100s of young children? That Jeffrey Deitch?

    • @Ld5634
      @Ld5634 Před rokem

      czcams.com/video/02TPAqbjynY/video.html

  • @mattlynch6011
    @mattlynch6011 Před rokem +35

    I have worked with SIMPARCH since 1996. I have some corrections to the image credits:
    Still at 0:46
    Hyde Park Art Center, Chicago, 2000, image by Chris Anderson
    Still at 0:52
    Hyde Park Art Center, Chicago, 2000, image by SIMPARCH
    Still at 0:54 Jocko Weyland skating
    Deitch Projects, 2005, image by SIMPARCH
    Still at 2:41
    Deitch Projects, 2005, image by SIMPARCH
    free basin was too big for the original Supreme store on Fairfax

  • @rowan8985
    @rowan8985 Před rokem +115

    Thank you for filling such a needed void of higher level discussions over skateboarding! Jenkem is the best.

    • @fzgn
      @fzgn Před rokem

      How was this higher level? It was just some wealthy pretentious petite-bourgeois fucks talking about things they don't even understand. No substance.

    • @robertcranbert8412
      @robertcranbert8412 Před rokem +6

      So ironic considering their namesake

    • @bryanflo4500
      @bryanflo4500 Před rokem +1

      @@robertcranbert8412 very true lmao

    • @rollins2922
      @rollins2922 Před rokem

      We stole an idea.

    • @rollins2922
      @rollins2922 Před rokem

      I can build that, and it would have bleachers and a shallow.

  • @bryanflo4500
    @bryanflo4500 Před rokem +39

    That last part Jeffrey Deitch mentions about "staying in character" and performance in his every day definitely struck me, especially as the last dialogue in the video.
    Seems like a cool guy, all in all. I like how he articulates his thoughts; might have to look up some other interviews. Thanks JENK!

  • @B.E.C.K.
    @B.E.C.K. Před rokem +45

    Another super cool piece. Jenkem doesn’t ever miss. Always quality. Thanks

    • @philipvonzweck125
      @philipvonzweck125 Před rokem

      except crediting the skaters/artists who made the bowl as a work of art.

  • @Limelightdocs
    @Limelightdocs Před rokem +11

    Stories like these are why I love Jenkem. Unique snippets of skate history and the best access to the folks who made that history. Thanks for another great video

    • @oopsydaizi3s824
      @oopsydaizi3s824 Před rokem

      Looks like they forgot to mention the people who actually built the bowl.

  • @artemface
    @artemface Před rokem +5

    Damn Jenkem have us the content we didn’t know we needed. I do wish the others talked more & it was more like 15 mins, but still so good ! TY!

  • @fords_nothere_100
    @fords_nothere_100 Před rokem +8

    Outstanding. As a former 40+ yr skater and an artist (and a bit of a fan of Deitch) this was entertaining and informative. As to phenom of skateboarding as a street performance, I'd recommend going back to the great Craig R. Stecyk III. His work in the late 70s/early 80s for Skateboarder mag, etc, was hugely influential for us skaters...espec living on the East coast.
    Anyway, great to see you give Deitch a nod for his openness to skate/street culture. Well done!

  • @mr.kidder4851
    @mr.kidder4851 Před rokem +1

    We had a few weeks where we were meeting up at the gallery and skating this bowl. I liked the art, especially the twist Barry Mcgee stuff and the bowl was super fun. Funny thing was after checking the art out once on the initial visit, it was just a super fun free indoor bowl that the gallery was cool with us hanging out at and sessioning and you had the bonus eye candy while you were taking a break. Props to everyone involved on this, including the builders! Gotta take advantage of whatever you can while it lasts, glad I was there.

  • @hunterdavis3003
    @hunterdavis3003 Před rokem +3

    This is INCREDIBLE journalism not just skate but such an insightful “crossover” . Great job

  • @millennialanimal
    @millennialanimal Před rokem +3

    I skated that bowl when it was in Liverpool UK,(I think it’s the same one) it was free to skate in a local art gallery, after it left a DIY park slowly started to be built by locals over the street from where the art gallery was, one of the best few years of my life as a kid.

    • @doomsday.tomato
      @doomsday.tomato Před rokem

      And don't forget the big full pipe next to it! (Plus the food was good) - Both of them ended up in ramp city in Blackpool. I think they're still there...

  • @heisthazey7311
    @heisthazey7311 Před rokem +6

    This was fantastic. Seeing Cheryl Dunn on this was a great way to start the New Year. Jenkem stays serving

  • @creature96x
    @creature96x Před rokem +5

    You guys are absolutely destroying it! Love everything you guys have been doing for the culture. Please never stop, everything just keeps getting better and better.

  • @charlesdemaio54
    @charlesdemaio54 Před rokem +1

    I walked into a warehouse in Pilsen, Chicago and this bowl or one similar was being built. I was in Awe.

  • @danieldrkness7489
    @danieldrkness7489 Před rokem +2

    this was so good! jenkem always bringing the good content !

  • @PerryLevy
    @PerryLevy Před rokem +2

    Michna holding it down on the interview! Good stuff Michna! Please do more of these!

  • @SundaysSkateboarding
    @SundaysSkateboarding Před rokem +8

    Simparch set this bowl up in Chicago (Hyde Park) in 2000! It was a pretty wild and I couldn't believe it was part of an art installation. The sessions were out of control. At one point, Tony Alva was even there. Mainly, I remember Jesse Neuhaus destroying it. I should dig up that footage...
    Thanks for the constantly putting out content from a different perspective.

    • @shimmeringtrashpile
      @shimmeringtrashpile Před rokem +2

      It's demented this video doesn't mention SIMPARCH at all. (And yes, that show Hyde Park art center blew my mind.)

    • @philipvonzweck125
      @philipvonzweck125 Před rokem +1

      I can't believe they didn't credit SIMPARCH! total BS!

  • @mercjohnson9125
    @mercjohnson9125 Před rokem +2

    Always the most interesting stuff from Jenkem

  • @Simonisms
    @Simonisms Před rokem +2

    Deitch is a smart and funny guy.
    Read a bunch of his essays when I was at art school and they were always spot on.

  • @glamcamlurks
    @glamcamlurks Před rokem +5

    Who knew id actually learn something this morning

  • @Jdog1681
    @Jdog1681 Před rokem

    Huge applause man. Tons of substance and phenomenal interview. Thank you!

  • @mattmartin123
    @mattmartin123 Před rokem +1

    Fantastic! Love Jefferey! Jenkem with another heavy hitter.

  • @xaoskuntablast3354
    @xaoskuntablast3354 Před rokem

    I normally don't watch Jenkem But saw this in my feed and clicked . Great story well put together and fantastic subject matter

  • @WheelMarks
    @WheelMarks Před rokem +1

    As always Jenkem coming through with the best skate content on the internet

  • @ahmezi
    @ahmezi Před rokem

    Thank you jenkem for bringing such interesting stories

  • @guimaraesfilm
    @guimaraesfilm Před rokem

    This is amazing, thank you!

  • @benjaminvinueza6175
    @benjaminvinueza6175 Před rokem +1

    Incredible piece ❤️

  • @harrycoward1017
    @harrycoward1017 Před rokem

    Thank you for this! Quality :)

  • @clubscout1
    @clubscout1 Před rokem +4

    very fortunate to have been able to skate this bowl twice, Chicago in Hyde Park 2000 and San Francisco 2004/2005 time frame I believe, I remember under a name of “free basin “

    • @clubscout1
      @clubscout1 Před rokem +1

      pretty sure it was the “beautiful losers” exhibit at SF MOCA

    • @edwardduarte7393
      @edwardduarte7393 Před rokem

      @@clubscout1 It was!

    • @catch2297
      @catch2297 Před rokem

      Would love to hear more if you can remember any cool moments :)

    • @shimmeringtrashpile
      @shimmeringtrashpile Před rokem

      Ya! SIMPARCH built this bowl, and built the others. It is a huge bummer this is never mentioned in this video.

    • @weinersmalls5684
      @weinersmalls5684 Před rokem +1

      @@clubscout1 Yerba Buena Center for the arts

  • @Old_man_Rob
    @Old_man_Rob Před rokem +2

    Good stuff Ian!! 💯🔥🙌🙌

  • @purplereigninblood
    @purplereigninblood Před rokem +1

    Skated the bowl in Columbus 2002 when Gonz did a poetry reading.

  • @Shimboslicer
    @Shimboslicer Před rokem +1

    Thank you Jenkem. Such a great article again.

  • @samwoodbridge222
    @samwoodbridge222 Před rokem

    absolutely fascinating!!!!!!!!!

  • @708Drojo
    @708Drojo Před rokem

    This was great!

  • @raymatos4329
    @raymatos4329 Před rokem

    This is such a cool interview

  • @derekshaw8490
    @derekshaw8490 Před rokem +2

    Rad interview...very cool content

  • @ricesteamer8
    @ricesteamer8 Před rokem

    this is amazing

  • @chromebomb
    @chromebomb Před rokem

    Jenkem gives the people what they want and ilove them

  • @princequestly2218
    @princequestly2218 Před rokem

    I’ve seen so many good art shows over the years at the Deutsche galleries, including this one.

  • @stevefrink4842
    @stevefrink4842 Před rokem +2

    Did not expect the art dudes brawling at that party

  • @MegaAppl3
    @MegaAppl3 Před rokem

    Great piece .

  • @saladz3657
    @saladz3657 Před rokem

    We need somethin like this in every city in America

  • @MFSHECKS
    @MFSHECKS Před rokem +3

    Cheryl dunn is a legend 🙌🏼

  • @_....J........................

    Kudos to Jeffrey. He knows what's up about how the art gains value via provenance in and out of the market. If he didn't, he would not have survived as a dealer for so long. Also, seems like a fun person too. That whole *Beautiful Losers* era, lol

  • @mythcrab6047
    @mythcrab6047 Před rokem +1

    You guys are literally the best doing it.

  • @HaZzArD14k
    @HaZzArD14k Před rokem

    Beautiful ❤️

  • @SuperSuperDuperNice
    @SuperSuperDuperNice Před rokem

    Very cool, I didn't know about this before

  • @mrnome13
    @mrnome13 Před rokem +1

    What a cool dude, I went to the Haroshi and Sorayama show at his gallery in LA. It was incredible

  • @cburns971
    @cburns971 Před rokem

    Love it🍻

  • @smiauu
    @smiauu Před rokem +1

    perfect!

  • @catteggz
    @catteggz Před rokem

    Love the content keep it up bro 👍

  • @sydgp
    @sydgp Před rokem

    Always been so curious about this thang

  • @numerodumero242
    @numerodumero242 Před rokem

    great vid dudes

  • @kinbread21
    @kinbread21 Před rokem +1

    This beauty of a bowl made it to ramp city in the north of the uk until having to be sadly donated to cornwall... Small world.

  • @aydanwharton2996
    @aydanwharton2996 Před rokem

    Awesome

  • @chrisallen1520
    @chrisallen1520 Před rokem +1

    I was skating this last week 😎
    It’s now at mount hawke in Cornwall

  • @gustavohernandez8888
    @gustavohernandez8888 Před rokem

    8:32 2012 art in the streets exhibition at LA moca changed my life.

  • @santiagosaizu
    @santiagosaizu Před rokem

    so interestingggggggg!!!!!!!

  • @incsk8
    @incsk8 Před rokem

    Jenkem bringing the good stuff we didn't knew we needed

  • @ironfront9573
    @ironfront9573 Před rokem

    Class A interview / video article.

  • @shadow.banned
    @shadow.banned Před rokem

    The International's museum scene is amazing.

  • @user-kj9st9vq3u
    @user-kj9st9vq3u Před rokem

    Went to Nadia Lee Cohen’s show at his LA gallery last year and it was incredible.

  • @weinersmalls5684
    @weinersmalls5684 Před rokem

    lots of fun sessions at Yerba Buena Center for the arts. good coping.

  • @whatmemories3728
    @whatmemories3728 Před rokem

    The beginning of the end!

  • @somosknow1
    @somosknow1 Před rokem

    Is that the same bowl that was at the Yerba Buena in SF?

  • @DeafWhatYouHerd
    @DeafWhatYouHerd Před rokem

    Bang’n!

  • @gordoncasey7490
    @gordoncasey7490 Před rokem

    Ian is the best

  • @user11006
    @user11006 Před rokem

    Cool

  • @RogerBagley
    @RogerBagley Před rokem

    👏👏👏

  • @mattmac6386
    @mattmac6386 Před rokem +10

    Like 'em or hate them, Supreme sure knows how to rip off and not credit the art world

    • @philipvonzweck125
      @philipvonzweck125 Před rokem +1

      1) Neither Jenkem nor Deitch credit the artists, SIMPARCH, who made the bowl as a artwork years before showing it at Deitch
      2) Supreme pays folks from SIMPARCH to build their bowls, maybe not at Deitch art prices, but as bowls.

    • @mattmac6386
      @mattmac6386 Před rokem

      ​@@philipvonzweck125 a) Thanks for this. Didn’t know about Simparch and it's a drag the piece doesn't highlight them at all. 1:24 shows them credited by Deitch et al. during the show; I'm sure Supreme did the same, even if only for the status
      b) The back and forth ripping off between skating and the art world is probably pretty evenly beneficial over time
      c) Who the fuck expects Jenkem to properly credit anyone

  • @rickbrummer3628
    @rickbrummer3628 Před rokem

    Love MArk Gonzales

  • @dahwm408
    @dahwm408 Před rokem +2

    physical graffiti, i like that analogy

  • @diegodominguez9424
    @diegodominguez9424 Před rokem

    looks remarkably similar to the new Supreme bowl

  • @MasterGuero
    @MasterGuero Před rokem

    How much did the bowl cost?

  • @edwardlynchcarey
    @edwardlynchcarey Před rokem +9

    Typical and shameful to have no mention of the talented artists who built the bowl!
    Simparch, check them out!

  • @TristenSchern
    @TristenSchern Před rokem

    W Jeffrey

  • @CivilShepherd
    @CivilShepherd Před rokem

    1:01, ESPO

  • @ConnorHolbrook419
    @ConnorHolbrook419 Před rokem +2

    The more I learn about Supreme the more I realize how it may have started with skateboarding at heart has turned into something more financially motivated and not so pure

  • @edwardduarte7393
    @edwardduarte7393 Před rokem +1

    Beautiful Losers was HUGE impact on the art world. I didn't know Deitch was behind it.

  • @rabakomaba4562
    @rabakomaba4562 Před rokem

    Woodglut has a very large project base.

  • @wasnt_it
    @wasnt_it Před rokem

    dilettantes!

  • @dollabill167
    @dollabill167 Před rokem

    Dudes not claiming he was first to put a bowl inside ?! 😂😂

  • @chrispeters4405
    @chrispeters4405 Před rokem

    they set that up in chicago and the coping was set waaaaaaayyy too far out

    • @chrisallen1520
      @chrisallen1520 Před rokem

      its still set too far out in its curent home in uk !!!!

  • @MrGangstabitch99
    @MrGangstabitch99 Před 7 měsíci

    Jeffrey Deitch poached this from Chicago. Corporate skateboarding still sucks!

  • @libertine5606
    @libertine5606 Před rokem

    We had our own art all the way back to Dogtown and Powell/Peralta. All they are doing is trying to suck the originality out of it.
    He is a vampire sucking blood looking for his next victim.

  • @chromebomb
    @chromebomb Před rokem

    first

  • @phatdawg1
    @phatdawg1 Před rokem

    Sick shit but that last response he gave to the interviewer was so lame... Why play a character when you can be yourself??

  • @andrewramirez9727
    @andrewramirez9727 Před rokem

    it's a bummer that supreme's bowl was just a rip off of the original.

  • @liumellowyellow666
    @liumellowyellow666 Před rokem

    Damn, from the bowl to their font Supreme seem less and less original the more you learn about it

  • @holeymattress8128
    @holeymattress8128 Před rokem

    Exploitation.

  • @dwoodinnyc
    @dwoodinnyc Před rokem

    Is that the most pretentious water bottle ever known to man, or just art?