FIRST IMPRESSIONS of Colorado’s Current Program + Possible Pathway For Revenue Sharing with Players?
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- FIRST IMPRESSIONS of Colorado’s Current Program + Possible Pathway For Revenue Sharing with Players?
Rece Davis and Pete Thamel discuss why Colorado, particularly head coach Deion Sanders, remains to be relentlessly fascinating. They also get into what to expect from the program now that they’ve moved from the now defunct Pac-12 to compete in the Big 12. Next, they chat about what it was like covering the NFL Draft with the accomplished Nick Saban. Then they round out the show with a preview of a possible legal settlement which could open the door for players to be part of a revenue sharing model.
#collegefootball #espn
0:00 Welcome
03:18 Fair To Criticize Deion Sanders’ Candidness?
07:10 Colorado’s Big Scheduling Blunder
13:14 First Impressions of Colorado’s Current Program
15:38 Expectations For Colorado, Now In The Big 12
19:09 Nick Saban’s Approach To On-Air Draft Analysis
23:35 The Story of Oatmeal Crème Pies at the NFL
25:08 NCAA To Backpay Players Following Antitrust Lawsuit
32:42 What’s On The Horizon For Rece & Pete?
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Dude said they still need to work getting receivers while that’s probably the best position they got
He doesn’t know what he is talking about. That was a ridiculous statement
Right, they are stacked at receiver
That’s why these assessments be bull. Cats don’t even be paying attention and this their job.
Why is everybody hyping up Nebraska? They are the same teams with a freshman quarterback? Colorado clears Nebraska skill position and quarterback
Nebraska is going to destroy Colorado and that Walmart brand team
Yeah I thought the same?? Nebraska has been nothing since they co nattied with Michigan back in 97`
This dude said pat shurmur is going to run the Lewis offense. How clueless can an “expert” be 😂
This might be one of the worst takes I have seen. He has no clue what he is talking about. He is just reading
Right
Shurmur isn’t gonna run a full scale NFL offense, he’ll definitely include a lot of college concepts. Bill O’Brien didn’t run his NFL offense in college. The guys at this level, be you at Oregon, Georgia, Colorado, NC State, Abilene Christian, wherever.. not all of them can handle those long play calls. Most of these kids will never play on Sunday. You gotta meet the kids where they’re at, and give them what they can handle. Make no mistake about it, this offense is gonna be built around Shedeurs strengths. Shurmur wont try and mold Shedeur to his offense, he’s gonna mold his offense to Shedeur.
Because Shurmur himself said he is going to run the "Lewis offense" due to the fact that as usual a bunch of dudes left and new ones came and they need to keep it simple for a Qb that will do only what he wants to do anyway
He said he needs too….. how clueless are you
A really shallow assessment of their recruiting efforts and depth. Here in Boulder we haven't seen a roster like this in a long time.
Why would he continue to run Sean Lewis offense when he isn't there?? Why didn't y'all do research on who they brought in? But you guys know who everybody else got and that's gon make it hard for em to win?? Smh
It’s very simple Racism! ESPN is becoming more racist than ever with their hatchet jobs on CU and their team. It’s funny how you want all the black athletes but fell that a black coach can’t get them too! The difference is you buy them, CU don’t have too
When Colorado win I am going to make sure I come back to this.
CZcams might be outdated by then
Especially when they trash NDS💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾🦬…just watch
Win what? A game? Conference? Natty?
Word
@@Owe_U_Nothin 🤙🏾
These commentators are like football announcers: They're always wrong in their predictions.
Well if he said Colorado would be better than 6-6 he is wrong
um you do realize that Reece davis predicted colorado would go 4-8 last year right and thamel predicted 5 wins at best for colorado last season. they both nailed it on predictions last year. lol
It amazes me how much conversation national outlets have & are spending talking about CP informing players that they probably or definitely won't play at CU when this goes on at all programs; however, we don't see these coaches & former players being given national attention. I ask the question, why is this being highlighted for CU & CP, or are folks trying to paint a narrative? Just something to ponder.
Because of the outspoken and terrible trash talking QB that will blame everyone but himself when they lose which is often.
@@davewylie654you are a liar! QB 1 has never said anything about his team mates. You can even recall a time that he did! Football is a team sport! Your lies are just lies! What would he blame himself for?? He certainly wasn’t the reason that they lost! He was the reason that they won !
@jeannettefox3496 you are obviously a big fan but look at the X posts about a guy that was his backup. No lies straight fact but I'm sure you will somehow see past that too
You can tell who truly covers this Team in detail. This Man really suggests North Dakota State is going to win that game?
Right....Or Prime would have been better to keep the QB's from a 1-11 team that lost by 29.5 points?
North Dakota state is usually underrated and always good for upsets.
NDSU is the best team in FCS and would beat the worse teams in FBS. they’d beat Stanford, Sacramento State beat Stanford last year. Colorado didn’t. don’t underestimate the FCS powerhouses, just saying
Colorado is 1-8 in its last 9 games. Currently on a 6 game losing streak, 2nd longest in the P4.
North Dakota State can beat anybody. Don't assume they can't compete because they are FCS. They are powerhouse program.
Click-baiting from this podcast … ESPN should not be so hungry for views.
That kid was gone a year when he made that comment. It was trolling... And it worked. Negativity sells.
12:02 why would he run Sean Lewis offense?
Right, that's what i asked myself. This offense is about to be way better than last years
Shurmur ain’t no winning coach. Every team he coached they were below avg. 🤣 if he asked Eric Bellamy to come lead the offense different story. But who cares 6-6 CU
@@beats4life971 your ADD is acting up guy 🥱 some of you adults are down bad. You stalk Colorado more than your own team 🤦🏾♂️ we don't care about your trash axe opinions🗑️ Let us be
@@beats4life971 You really have no life my boy. You might as well get a CU jersey and call it a day...because the way you stalk CU is impeccable.
@@Mytai_371 U don’t know me or history of CU just emotional babbling 🤣 continue 6-6 record this year
Reece look at USC Riley when he flipped his roster when he took over there, very similar except players were not interviewed.
Nobody had a problem with or was talking bout CU till deion got there y'all jus don't like deion n it's obvious but y'all hate for him is deeper than that it's giving...... Yk
You're the one making it deeper than it is. They gave honest predictions the same for prime as any coach. Time to grow up.
@@__B--MAN__No they didn’t! The only thing missing here is the KKK hood and robe!
Man I hope Vegas takes that over/ under because I’m putting 5K on it.
they will only take over or under. thats how it works so which one you gone put that 5k on?
The players brought in from the transfer portal at Colorado are an exceptional upgrade from last year’s team at all positions except quarterback. The success of their season rests upon keeping Shedeur upright and healthy, giving him time to throw. The improvements to the offensive line should allow this to happen. The running game will also be better than last year because of the incoming backs and again, an improved offensive line. The Colorado defense should also be improved over last year’s defense. There has also been an improvement in the coaching staff. Because of these upgrades, Colorado will challenge for the Big 12 championship and qualify for a major Bowl game! Coach Prime will also be a contender for Big 12 Coach of the Year! If all of these predictions come true Shedeur Sanders will win the Heisman trophy and Davey O’BRIEN award! BOOK IT!
The utes are winning the big 12 if they stay healthy and colorado will be in the bottom half
These Are Facts
These guys don’t understand. The offensive line collapsed at Oregon and never returned. Partly due to them being not very good and mostly depth issues from injuries. This made the RPO impossible to run which killed Sean Lewis’s offense. The trenches are improved on both sides + quality depth. They also got better in the secondary and receiver room. Better running back room. More experienced starters. Better offensive coaches. Defense coaching will be the question. Are they thinking the schedule is that much worse? I just don’t get how they win the same or less games.
they have zero shot at winning more than 5. the entire class was a bunch of 3 stars and a few low grade 4 stars. and most of the team has never played together or under that system. using this formula will never result in success. period. yall take that as hate because you are in a cult. but they a reason why everyone in college football almost universally is saying this same exact thing and it aint cause of hate. its because its fact. you know who doesnt recruit like dieon? nick saban, Kirby Smart, Jim Harbaugh. the 2 best recruiters ever in college football and the last guy to win the natty. how many nattys dieon got or how many players has he put in the draft? the answer is the same on both, ZERO. and programs like bama and georgia can have good players transfer out because they stacked with great 4 and 5 stars. dieon isnt like that so a decent 3 star leaving him is cause for concern. he has a D+ roster right now.
Prime is only going into the second season at Colorado. NONE OF THE COACHES YOU REFERENCED WON IN THEIR FIRST YEAR! There has been remarkable upgrades in talent and coaching over last year. Success in this first year in the Big 12 will go a long way towards continuing to strengthen and build the program. Comparing a rebuilding Colorado to Alabama, Georgia, and Michigan is off base. IT TOOK YEARS FOR THESE PROGRAMS TO WIN UNDER THESE COACHES!!
Sometime good players just don’t fit in everywhere
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Did he say huge voids at Reciever??Do people forget Colorado was a dead team..Lost by average of 30 points 2 years ago..
Why does Thamel assume that Shurmur is going run the same offense?
Because that’s what they doing now a million passes and hand full of runs been doing it all spring they gone keep the ball in qb 1 hands
@craigrogers6889 so you have been at practice watching each rep? I saw as many videos of the running backs working as I did QB's and WR's.
Because if u watched the last 4 games it was the same offense. Also, the OLine didn’t like SS because they blocked much better against Utah for the backup QB
@beats4life971 of last season. How much time do you believe there is during the season to change an entire offenses? Pat Shurmur is not going to continue to run Lewis offense. You can't lack that much understanding of coaching and college football?
@@kevinmorris481 💀 we will see. What offense he run. U hope he does not. The last 4 games he ran similar offense to Lewis. Colorado is on a 6 game losing streak. 💀💀 u talking and 4 of those games were with Pat Shurmur. Pat is 0-4 at the moment as a Offensive Coach
12:50 how is that on Deion when he don’t call plays. If im not mistaking that was the last game Sean Lewis was oc too
As a Georgia fan... I'll say i owe Reece Davis an apology...last off-season...he tabbed Michigan as the team that would win the Natty.. Georgia fans(including myself) were ready to riot at his front door...still think a head 2 head match up between the DAWGS and Michigan would've gone in Georgia's favor BUT Michigan did in fact win the Natty...so good call Mr. Davis...and yes...i just died a little inside...
14:48 he let a lot of ppl slide.He let it go on multiple ppl. Than he reply to one person he wrong
They be knowing dam well if it was them they would have beeen said something back
They coah prime to standards they dont even hold they self too
If it was 7v7, Colorado would be National Champs. If Coach Sanders is getting the “jimmy’s and joes” like he says he is, then it has to be the coaching, and the X’s and O’s have to improve.
Some of these "Experts" just say anything. "At wr, they have major holes to fill there" ok, thats literally their deepest and one of the best position groups in the country.
9:43 all new coaching staff? Last time I check only 4 coaches left.
Yep and 1 has never been a defensive coordinator and the other this is his first time being a position coach. Not the most experience.
There was no back and forth with a former DB from CU on Twitter. The player from a losing 2022 team, was interviewed by The Athletic to paint CU's coach in a negative light. The Athletic put the quote out Shedeur and Prime , along with multiple current CU players responded after being constantly bashed online.
He just North Dakota State has continuity. Their leading receiver just transferred and they have a New Head coach 🤦🏾♂️. These analysts just don’t know, but Rico knows lol
Why does Vegas have 5.5 wins for CU and every Critic says 7, 8, 9 wins. These Analysts are going to make a boat load of money, if their right.
Where are the video questing the expectations of Michigan, Alabama, Washington, Arizona & Michigan State? They all have new head coaches and lost players to the portal in the off season. Why aren't their future being analyzed the same way as Coach Prime is?
I had to check the date on when this mess was posted😂😂. Aint no way this was posted this year and they did research on this team and their roster...Aint no way🤣. They are so engrossed with hate, envy, jealousy and insecurity for CU that they cant post something with objective, logical sense
That's why ESPN is a joke...and real sports podcasts are taking ya'll out. ESPN is biased AF
Their offense is so dangerous in the wide receiver room. If their defense can stop the run watch out
Throat coat tea is crazy! 🤣🤣
You two know very little about Colorado football and it's personnel.
AD who scheduled NDSU also hired Deion, so..
Im saving this one in my Buffs file.
What! Now he says the line stunk. Where is the objectivity?
So you saying that a team that beat Nebraska It’s not gonna be better than Nebraska or you just don’t like prime
Colorado will not be favored, nor will they beat Nebraska. I'd put money on it.
@@foosful you were the same one that said that last year, I bet
@coachhunter4463 Actually, I thought Prime was brilliant in his approach. CU was so bad when he got there that he had to turn over the roster. It took systemic and cultural changes to get it on the right path. In this chat, I predicted CU anywhere between 4-7 games. I think that is fair. CU o/u is 5.5 and Nebraska o/u is 7.5. They have 80% of their defense returning that was top 11 in the country, a 4 star RB from Oregon, a couple of pretty good WR transfers, and a 5 star QB. Last year they were close to leading the country in turnovers, and did not force many. They also have depth, many players returning, and have filled in some holes as needed. They are also healthy, as last year they weren't. I think NU will surprise people this year.
@@foosfulAin't nobody reading all that😂😂. I promise what you wrote was BS at best😂
@@Mytai_371 , I am a political science major. We write a lot and are full of sh%$. 😉 people exercise no nuance when it comes to figures like Tim Tebow, Colin Kaepernick, coach Prime, etc. I am only assessing what I see and the results given 🤷♂️
They really not going to have a clue !
Colorado 8 Wins!
November is going to be national media seething season. Clear as day they don’t respect cp as a hc . No one will say it tho. Just dance around it
I’ll take 8 wins.
Nah. It'll be 3-4 wins. 😂
@@TheIkeman74Everyone says it. His nickname is Pop Warners MVP and you 🤡s said the same 💩 last season.
5
And dude dumb talm bout who gon wanna back up Sheduer they have 4 other QBs on the team you obviously don't pay attention to CU like that fr you jus see a few clips and see wateva is on X n you jus said you like coaches to keep it real but wen deion keep it real n tell them kids hit the portal he is insulting them dude jus say you don't like deion cause you keep contradicting yourself deion makes y'all show your real colors
Coach prime will win big 12 coach of the yr n wins the big 12
Which back up QB did Deion insult? The one that committed to CU before he was hired and decided to STAY at CU even after receiving multiple offers to leave CU (which is tampering btw) Why would he stay if he's being "insulted" and Prime is playing daddy ball as the host inferred? Oh, you must be talking about the QB from the 1-11 team that left before Deion started who we haven't heard a peep from. This video highlights why current CU commits have spoken up about other programs bashing Prime during their visits. These two have no issue showing their bias and I'm certain the convos about him with other coaches behind the scenes are 10 times worse.
This man should be fire
Is Colorado better this year?
Nope.
WR group maybe top 5 in the country.
Nah throat coat is crazy 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Folks … it is entertainment… nothing more … nothing less …
In a weird way, it is 5 ⭐️s
CU record: 6-6 @ Best; 5-7 @ worst!
They said nothing wrong… we went 4-8 and have a new roster. Let’s humble ourselves and go to work! Skobuffs
Sounds like a hater 🤣
A lot of these network guys used to wish they had Deions job and n9w that they do man some of these jobs they take things far lol. Not to say that correlates to this video anyone in it or the ideology. Just what it is
We are tired of hearing about Nick saban
these guys talk about Deion more than the program in depth objectively
Voids in receiver core? Ok.
Do these men know anything about football? Nebraska had 4 chances against weak teams to qualify for a bowl game and failed. The current backup is very good at Colorado. Had a fine game in his only start at Utah. Dylan Edwards is a fine player but is not a run between the tackles guy and that MUST change this year. I agree that Deion made mistakes, but he won 4 games against coaches who also made mistakes. Matt Rhule made just as many in his late season 4 game losing streak that was never mentioned in this story about how good the Children of the Corn will be this year.
This is how you place yourself on the hot seat at ESPN..... It's just not the time for this. You should be doing this later this year and you wont looked like a serving platter now.
When they win the look on these ppl faces is going to disgust and anger
That program is just a mixture of a reality show and a soap opera.
Rowing machine
Honesty??? When he didn't criticize ANY bama player?! Gtfoh
Colorado have will Shepherd n Cordell Russell plus the receiver they already have
Major pauses throughout this video
Big 12 with no Texas or Oklahoma… CU getting 8-10 wins 🦬🔥
U need clicks say something negative about coach prime and Colorado to get views
Balanced coverage. One of the few, you messed up a few facts but still a balanced segment.
lol if I was coach prime I wouldn’t let college game even come or try to interview me. They going go there and fake in his face. If you ain’t with us you is against us
The he are gonna be embarrassed again then make excuses for the losses. They are gonna say they are rebuilding and to give Deion more time. Book it.
Who are you "Cornballs"
Colorado has a 7 win FLOOR
They will go 0-12.
7 wins in 24, 9-10 in 25
4-8
Bet on it. Ez money
Geaux Vols!!! Colorado wouldn't last 3 weeks in the S.E.C.
We would if our collective was great like Tennessee’s🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Tennessee just started back winning
Colorado is gonna blow north Dakota state out
@@jaybrown3341before NIL, Tennessee was still good
@@GoatedAtNFSLast championship?
But is Shedeur Sanders coachable at the NFL level or will just do what he wants regardless of what is best for the team?
You people can say really stupid things. Amazing
He's very coachable. What has he shown to give you the impression that he isn't coachable?
He has a very high football IQ, plus he was trained by Tom Brady.
When they hate they hate hard
@@cedo2297 Blacks vs whites...🤷
Colorado snuck up on some folks last year. This year, people will be ready.
Snuck up on who? They didn't beat one team with a winning record last year.
@@ccmx23 TCU and Nebraska didn't expect what they encountered in early September. After the Colorado State game, teams learned to adjust.
@@chrisjames3087 give you the tcu game.. but they weren't a good team.
They were 4-8 last year who did they sneak up on?
Prime Pimpin Colorado for his kids.
I can see that…
Under 5.5 is crazy, wester, Sheppard, horn, both miller's, and baby to cordale russell, yall tripping saying there is a "void" at reciever, also have you seen the linebacker, db, and d line pickups??!?! I love yall but this ain't it
Prime arrogance is chasing these players away
Unpopular opinion here, but I’m still not sure if prime can coach or not. Every team he’s had from HS to JSU he just had more talent🤷🏾♂️ he lost 2 celebration bowls and we all saw last season.
I dunno, does coaching have anything to do with JSU going undefeated 2 yrs in a row? When he coached high school they were conference champs back to back, does coaching have anything to do with that 🤔? I mean are you questioning Deboer's coaching abilities for going undefeated in regular season yet still losing the Natty?
Quit it with this Last Chance U nonsense
🗑️ episode
First as a coach be it football or another sport your job is to teach kids what it takes to succeed in life or on the field deion said y'all are losers you gotta Go no I'll take heart over talent any day you can coach talent not heart you teach those kids how to win work as a team win and lose together then you have a team deion is a fake coach he kicked 90 % of his team out that's not fair to the kid who's to say the previous coach wasn't the problem not the kid
Team Mom with a gold whistle. Nothing more. He will be gone when his kids leave and he will use stuff like this for an excuse.
@alta, keep that same energy when CP is at Colorada for the next ten years. Real parent don't follow their children, they lead their children. This you should know this, if you are a parent.
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Can't wait for the season to start so all these idol worshippers start crying and looking for excuses. Why are all these experts saying that Colorado isn't that good do you think they are all wrong
Yall running for clicks now? 17 min on a 4-7 team 🤣🤣🤣
Under 5 and a half is so disrespectful lol. They’re winning 7-8 at least
I give Colorado 3-4 wins. Shedeur will be a backup in the NFL.
Back up his son you're not gonna play. Lol his son is a 1st round pick this take was horrible
So nick saban can say wat he want just in a different criticism but show honesty. But Prime cant ? Yall are hilarious. I see what’s really going on 🦬
The back stabbers (back stabbers)
(They smilin' in your face)
All the time, they want to take your place
The back stabbers (back stabbers) 🦬🦬🦬🤣🤣🤣
Sing it again for the ones in the back
lol…this dude has no idea what CU’s roster looks like…poor guy💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾🦬
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Let em keep sleeping & hating. We hitting the field soon🦬
Not much better from what I seen
@@Rob_uno 👍🏾
@@jaybrown3341 glad we on the same page
This dude don't know anything about the players we have talking bout big holes at wide receiver!!!!???😂👎🏿🦬💪🏿