I don't know why I haven't seen DC Rivals being compared to Kondaa anywhere else yet, they look like very similarly designed rides made by different manufacturers.
Intamin has never minded “borrowing” ideas from other manufacturers, but Mack Rides really seamed to like the 2000s Intamin track design, so they’re running with it.
Because dc rivals, other than the non inverting loop, is a much more traditional and old style hyper layout if you look at just the elements. It doesn’t feature any weird RMC like elements like kondaa does
Haha me too! I love describing coaster layouts almost as much as I love designing them. I kinda wish more people went in depth with coaster layouts so it's always great when I find a youtuber that does that.
Great video! I do believe that nemesis deserves to be on the list or honorable mentions I know it doesnt have airtime like all the coasters on this list the layout is phenomenal in my opinion it is so unique the way it works it's way through the terrain.
It's great that Intamin is making their best attractions available and affordable for parks like Walibi Belgium! With their new small blitz coaster layouts, they seem to be extending their reach to parks even smaller than that.
I mean, for a long time the park's main coasters were a terribly painful Vekoma woodie (I get why Vekoma didn't build more than 3) and a Vekoma SLC. Then the park got Pulsar (which I wasn't able to ride because it broke down before I went on it...), Tiki Waka (highly underrated imo) and Kondaa, and it really is a great park for coasters now. They also made quite a good effort in theming their new and existing areas, the park looks so nice now.
They honestly look like very different rides, but Pantheon will officially be the fastest Intamin Blitz Coaster. Throw Velocicoaster into the mix and it’s a really good time.
The spike drop into the ejector bunny hill into the top hat into the 95 degree drop into the banked turn into the outer banked hill into the inverting stall... Taiga has nothing on that sequence and neither does Velocicoaster.
Thank you thank you thank you. That's exactly it. The layout is everything. The feel of freedom, of great athleticness and flexibility, a creative layout with sense of speed that never gets boring. But above all, just the feel of riding it. I am searching for words to describe that quality. It's neither the most inversions nor the greatest forces. It's just the right bend at the right time. Like the timing of comedy. It probably has to do with human anticipation as well. DC Rivals already has some recognition, but people that see it might also think, there's only one inversion, maybe 2 if you count that overbanked turn. Then it's a bunch of turns and hills. So what is so great about it? Well, of the coasters I've ridden, it comes close to the feel that I want to have in a coaster. It just feels... right. If you ride it. The turns, the positive, negative and lateral forces (there are many of the last two on it which I like), it all comes at the right time. It feels like flying through the air. PS: From the onride, Lech Coaster looks similar to this. I have to ride it sometime. For example with Velocicoaster, that airtime stall right after the deep drop looks a bit much, don't know if I could enjoy it as much, after all my muscles had to brace for highly positive G impact right before. That's about that pacing and human anticipation that I've mentioned. The perfect element at the right place just feels right. PPS: And it's about those comfy lap-bar seats as well. You are only fixated at one point. The rest of the body is able to move. That way, you feel the full freedom of the negatives and laterals. At those twisted airtime hills, you often feel disconnected from your seat at times. The freel of being free, it's awesome. With shoulder constraints, that feel is not possible, you are constrained into the seat and feel fixed to the car at all times.
I would personally put Nemesis as at least an honourable mention. Just the way the ride flows from element to element through the terrain (which that on its own was innovative). I think John Wardly did an excellent job at creating such an impactful layout with so many restrictions jst in general, let alone for the mid 90's. Anyway great video, I'm glad I've found your channel because I also have quiet a passion for design.
Im glad to see toutatis really high in this list, I get why nobody talks about it since it's heading to france, but i'm really hyped for it since the park is an hour away from me also lech coaster has a beyond vertical drop, just wanted to point it out for no actual reason
I'm biased but i would add my homepark's Gerstlauer in here- Junker, as a honorable mention at the very least. Not a single dull moment in that coaster and has quite violent forces all throughout the ride.
I think that Hyperion deserve a spot but it's second half that feels like some Intamin blitz and still on Mega coaster overall it's best ride in it's height category for me
No Ride to Happiness :( i think it has a flawless Layout filled with unique elements and strong Forces, even with out the spinning it would make a good ride
@@madrista666 I know that RTH will be way better, but riding Time Traveler will give me the idea of how good this model can be at the most basic version of it.
Now i havent ridden it, but i have ridden voyage, but just by looking at it i dont think there is any chance maverick has a better layout than voyage. I've done velocicoaster many times but even that doesnt come close to me.
I know it doesn't look like it in a povs but I think Sky Rush has one of the best hyper layouts, every single element delivers maximum insanity which no other coaster I've ridden has done
Am I the only one who wasn't that impressed with maverick? It's gotten rough....... also how is their no hulk? Like that layout is one of the best on a looping coaster ever. Also no hagrids? If your focusing on layout. But you seemed to be more focused on forces alone. Also half of the times you said air time was not air time. You don't get air time from a over banked turn
I've never experienced Maverick as rough. And yes forces play a part in how good the layout is, but for example Skyrush and El Toro have insane forces but the layout is not too inventive. I dont remember saying there was airtime on an overbanked turn lol. When did I say that?
I think kondaa's layout deserves the spot, but when I saw the g force data the forces it delivers towards the end of the ride looked bit underwhelming, considering how it was hyped by some to be the GOAT of coasters.
I think Toutatis will offer a longer and more well rounded experience. But I think pantheon will overall be a better coaster than toutatis because the forces look better even if the ride is shorter and the layout isnt as good.
@@EliteCoasters after all I'm glad Toutatis wont be that far away from me. I also think Toutatis' theming and surrounding with all the trenches and intertwining with other rides will make it cool
@@EliteCoasters thats kool. I'm amazed how many coasters you've experienced. I'm 33 and I've only just began to fall in love with coasters. I was never confident when I was half my age. But when I went to Warner bros coasters and experienced DC rivals I became addicted. Now I want to go around the world and experience the best coasters.
@@MA77SP I haven't actually experienced all these haha, but I have ridden a variety of different coaster types so I have a good idea of what similar coasters would be like
Just saying, the DC Rivals does not just have lap bar restraints, due to the type of roller coaster it is, just lap bars will not hold you in well and they would make the ride super dangerous. The DC Rivals hypercoaster has harness restraints WITH a connecting seatbelt to make sure that you are nice and safe the whole ride!
Steel Vengeance should be honourable mentions or low on the list imo. It's an extremely good ride but it just feels very forced at the end with all the airtime hills. For the most part the layout is amazing and flows brilliantly but that final third of the ride just doesn't do it for me and finishing a ride off on a bad note is one of the worst things a layout can do. Also Kondaa is out here pulling a Hyperion tbh. Ridiculous layout but some inexcusable flaws in the pacing that just break up the ride. I wish it were just one small period of downtime, say just through the non-inverting cobra roll but there are multiple sections that are underwhelming. Very unfortunate as it had probably the best layout on a coaster to date.
I disagree as the final part of steel Vengeance is my favorite part of the ride, but if you dislike that section I can see why it would rank lower for you. Also I was expecting people to like kondaa more than they did
I don't know why I haven't seen DC Rivals being compared to Kondaa anywhere else yet, they look like very similarly designed rides made by different manufacturers.
DC Rivals- the father, Kondaa- the son, EGF- the holy spirit
Intamin has never minded “borrowing” ideas from other manufacturers, but Mack Rides really seamed to like the 2000s Intamin track design, so they’re running with it.
Because dc rivals, other than the non inverting loop, is a much more traditional and old style hyper layout if you look at just the elements. It doesn’t feature any weird RMC like elements like kondaa does
I love designing coasters so listening to someone talk about them the way I think feels great. Thanks
Haha me too! I love describing coaster layouts almost as much as I love designing them. I kinda wish more people went in depth with coaster layouts so it's always great when I find a youtuber that does that.
Ye 10000000%
@@EliteCoasters this
As well as me! I actually watched this for inspiration.
Great video! I do believe that nemesis deserves to be on the list or honorable mentions I know it doesnt have airtime like all the coasters on this list the layout is phenomenal in my opinion it is so unique the way it works it's way through the terrain.
Probably the most creative B&M layout on the planet
Riddlers Revenge at MM has an insanely underrated layout. Easily the best B&M looper layout that gets overlooked due to being a standup.
Who would have ever thought a park like Walibi Belgium would buy an Intamin Mega like Kondaa. So happy this is my homepark :D
It's great that Intamin is making their best attractions available and affordable for parks like Walibi Belgium! With their new small blitz coaster layouts, they seem to be extending their reach to parks even smaller than that.
I mean, for a long time the park's main coasters were a terribly painful Vekoma woodie (I get why Vekoma didn't build more than 3) and a Vekoma SLC. Then the park got Pulsar (which I wasn't able to ride because it broke down before I went on it...), Tiki Waka (highly underrated imo) and Kondaa, and it really is a great park for coasters now. They also made quite a good effort in theming their new and existing areas, the park looks so nice now.
Great list! I would have put Taiga much higher, but other than that, I mostly agree!
I like taigas layout more than pantheons. I cant say anything about pantheon but from having ridden taiga its amazing.
They honestly look like very different rides, but Pantheon will officially be the fastest Intamin Blitz Coaster. Throw Velocicoaster into the mix and it’s a really good time.
The spike drop into the ejector bunny hill into the top hat into the 95 degree drop into the banked turn into the outer banked hill into the inverting stall... Taiga has nothing on that sequence and neither does Velocicoaster.
@@scottnelson9 nah there is one in China which is faster
I think Iron Gwazi deserves a much higher spot. Every element deliverers incredible forces and it has very unique elements too.
Man, I’m happy to see Maverick on this list, still my favorite coaster
Maverick is awesome!
@@EliteCoasters imagine if maverick had spinning cars, man that would be freaking scary and crazy at the same time
@@360coasters well pretty much any intamin blitz would be berserk with spinning carts 😂
Thank you thank you thank you. That's exactly it. The layout is everything. The feel of freedom, of great athleticness and flexibility, a creative layout with sense of speed that never gets boring. But above all, just the feel of riding it.
I am searching for words to describe that quality. It's neither the most inversions nor the greatest forces. It's just the right bend at the right time. Like the timing of comedy. It probably has to do with human anticipation as well.
DC Rivals already has some recognition, but people that see it might also think, there's only one inversion, maybe 2 if you count that overbanked turn. Then it's a bunch of turns and hills. So what is so great about it? Well, of the coasters I've ridden, it comes close to the feel that I want to have in a coaster. It just feels... right. If you ride it. The turns, the positive, negative and lateral forces (there are many of the last two on it which I like), it all comes at the right time. It feels like flying through the air.
PS: From the onride, Lech Coaster looks similar to this. I have to ride it sometime. For example with Velocicoaster, that airtime stall right after the deep drop looks a bit much, don't know if I could enjoy it as much, after all my muscles had to brace for highly positive G impact right before. That's about that pacing and human anticipation that I've mentioned. The perfect element at the right place just feels right.
PPS: And it's about those comfy lap-bar seats as well. You are only fixated at one point. The rest of the body is able to move. That way, you feel the full freedom of the negatives and laterals. At those twisted airtime hills, you often feel disconnected from your seat at times. The freel of being free, it's awesome. With shoulder constraints, that feel is not possible, you are constrained into the seat and feel fixed to the car at all times.
The fact that Taiga didn't make the top 5 on this list is a crime, that is the most perfect layout in existence today, period.
I would personally put Nemesis as at least an honourable mention. Just the way the ride flows from element to element through the terrain (which that on its own was innovative). I think John Wardly did an excellent job at creating such an impactful layout with so many restrictions jst in general, let alone for the mid 90's. Anyway great video, I'm glad I've found your channel because I also have quiet a passion for design.
Im glad to see toutatis really high in this list, I get why nobody talks about it since it's heading to france, but i'm really hyped for it since the park is an hour away from me
also lech coaster has a beyond vertical drop, just wanted to point it out for no actual reason
I'm biased but i would add my homepark's Gerstlauer in here- Junker, as a honorable mention at the very least. Not a single dull moment in that coaster and has quite violent forces all throughout the ride.
This is easily one of your best videos I’ve seen. Great job with this!
Glad you liked it! :)
Looking forward to visiting Poland hopefully later this summer
That's awesome!
Velocicoaster is my number 1
It looks awesome!
Glad to see kondaa so high because it’s so good but I miss taron because even when people prize it’s theming, I find the ride almost as good as kondaa
Taron's layout looks really solid and the theming really makes the ride into an experience. I think I like Kondaa's layout a little too much though 😂
@@EliteCoasters I don’t think so because kondaa lives really up to the hype
I've done both and kondaa is so much better, I do agree taron is also top notch but it's just nothing compared to kondaa
@@EliteCoasters kondaa isn’t that intense that the go can’t handle it
Expedition GeForce probably should be on the list.
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jokes aside cool video
I think that Hyperion deserve a spot but it's second half that feels like some Intamin blitz and still on Mega coaster overall it's best ride in it's height category for me
Hades 360 is one of my fav layouts
No Ride to Happiness :( i think it has a flawless Layout filled with unique elements and strong Forces, even with out the spinning it would make a good ride
I made this video before anyone realised how good Ride to Happiness is
Kondaa is GREAT, already did over 50 rides and It get's better and better :-)!
Awesome!
Little update, did Ride 2 Happiness also now and must say R2H is a worldclass coaster even better than Kondaa 😀
@@madrista666 I've heard so many good things about RTH, and I'll be at Silver Dollar City on Sunday to see how good the prototype Xtreme spinner is :)
@@EliteCoasters I know some one who did both and he told me that R2H is better! But Time Traveler will be also great.
@@madrista666 I know that RTH will be way better, but riding Time Traveler will give me the idea of how good this model can be at the most basic version of it.
So we can all agree Intamin has the best layout designers 💙
I love that the video opens with orion.
Text book definition of ironic lol.
I did make this video before I rode orion. Every element except for the "wave turn" and the turnaround is awesome.
@@EliteCoasters so a third of the ride is lame, then?
@@Nick_J_ yeah kinda
I was on abyssus it is my fav coaster
Now i havent ridden it, but i have ridden voyage, but just by looking at it i dont think there is any chance maverick has a better layout than voyage. I've done velocicoaster many times but even that doesnt come close to me.
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i really think expedition geforce deserves a spot here but great list nonetheless
Expedition GeForce has an awesome layout!
I know it doesn't look like it in a povs but I think Sky Rush has one of the best hyper layouts, every single element delivers maximum insanity which no other coaster I've ridden has done
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in my opinion nemesis should be here because of how unique and good it is compared to most inverts and follows the terrain so well
having ridden both lech and zadra i can confidently say zadra’s layout is way better
Am I the only one who wasn't that impressed with maverick? It's gotten rough....... also how is their no hulk? Like that layout is one of the best on a looping coaster ever. Also no hagrids? If your focusing on layout. But you seemed to be more focused on forces alone. Also half of the times you said air time was not air time. You don't get air time from a over banked turn
I've never experienced Maverick as rough. And yes forces play a part in how good the layout is, but for example Skyrush and El Toro have insane forces but the layout is not too inventive. I dont remember saying there was airtime on an overbanked turn lol. When did I say that?
@@EliteCoasters maybe I was mistaken then. You said airtime so much lol.
@@cooperallen7145 I am a coaster enthusiast so I probably did mention airtime way to much 😂
@@EliteCoasters Yeah. I was a little drowsy watching so I probably wasn't paying as much attention as I should haha
Maverick left me quite underwhelmed as well, I find it pretty overrated. my #8 out of 82
Where can I find the music used for the DC Rivals Hypercoaster part of this video??
I think i got it from Coaster Frenzy's best coaster soundtracks video because there was no other high quality recording that I could find
I think kondaa's layout deserves the spot, but when I saw the g force data the forces it delivers towards the end of the ride looked bit underwhelming, considering how it was hyped by some to be the GOAT of coasters.
Yeah I was a little disappointed by the forces as well
Dont worry, it gets better and better
I havent ridden it but i saw another reply ffrom JEFF Fastenaekels
It pulled a Hyperion but not quite as bad.
What makes Toutatis' layout so better then Pantheon's? I thought the layouts are almost similar.
I think Toutatis will offer a longer and more well rounded experience. But I think pantheon will overall be a better coaster than toutatis because the forces look better even if the ride is shorter and the layout isnt as good.
@@EliteCoasters after all I'm glad Toutatis wont be that far away from me. I also think Toutatis' theming and surrounding with all the trenches and intertwining with other rides will make it cool
By the way I am the 666th subscriber
Congrats 😈
What about Taron?
Because you haven’t seen Shambala & Dragon Khan in PortAventura World...
What about the cannibal lift coaster?
It has an awesome layout, just barely missed the honorable mentions.
@@EliteCoasters thats kool. I'm amazed how many coasters you've experienced. I'm 33 and I've only just began to fall in love with coasters. I was never confident when I was half my age. But when I went to Warner bros coasters and experienced DC rivals I became addicted. Now I want to go around the world and experience the best coasters.
@@MA77SP I haven't actually experienced all these haha, but I have ridden a variety of different coaster types so I have a good idea of what similar coasters would be like
But where fury325 😢😂😂😂
Just saying, the DC Rivals does not just have lap bar restraints, due to the type of roller coaster it is, just lap bars will not hold you in well and they would make the ride super dangerous. The DC Rivals hypercoaster has harness restraints WITH a connecting seatbelt to make sure that you are nice and safe the whole ride!
am i the only one confused where el toro is
The music is too loud!
In some spots its probably a little too loud but it's easy to hear if the volume on your device is not too quiet.
DC Rivals layout is kinda mid, too much boring elements, and not even top 50 in the world
You’ll note how B&M is barely present in the video.
That’s because they are inferior.
Steel Vengeance should be honourable mentions or low on the list imo. It's an extremely good ride but it just feels very forced at the end with all the airtime hills. For the most part the layout is amazing and flows brilliantly but that final third of the ride just doesn't do it for me and finishing a ride off on a bad note is one of the worst things a layout can do.
Also Kondaa is out here pulling a Hyperion tbh. Ridiculous layout but some inexcusable flaws in the pacing that just break up the ride. I wish it were just one small period of downtime, say just through the non-inverting cobra roll but there are multiple sections that are underwhelming. Very unfortunate as it had probably the best layout on a coaster to date.
I disagree as the final part of steel Vengeance is my favorite part of the ride, but if you dislike that section I can see why it would rank lower for you. Also I was expecting people to like kondaa more than they did