Mariner's Trauma Explored: The Inner Fight | Star Trek Lower Decks Review, Breakdown
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- čas přidán 28. 10. 2023
- Just a quick look at Star Trek Lower Decks Season 4 episode 9, The Inner Fight! So excited we finally got a reveal about the tiny ship.
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"Blundering like a fox" is a fantastic expression.
Thank you! 😂 I chuckled while writing it
When Mariner said Sito's name my jaw dropped. Such a brilliant way of tying the show back to the original Lower Decks concept.
It's also funny that they brought back Robert Duncan McNeill after he already played Tom Paris on this show, reminds me of Jeffrey Combs playing Brunt and Weyoun in the same episode
Yeah, I had a similar open mouthed staring moment, immediately followed by crying when Mariner teared up 😅
Trek does love to reuse actors so much 😂
Mariner hugging Ma’ah was a scene that genuinely made me go “awwwwwww” 😢❤️
That a show that is ostensibly a comedy is capable to making me feel such a strong emotion without the need for any music effects to highlight it…it’s just there and you know how she generally is and what she just admitted…
Anyone who still thinks Lower Decks isn’t “real” Star Trek at this point simply has no clue what “real” Star Trek even IS…this was a moment of pathos worthy of TNG itself…😍❤️
And then that cliffhanger…I literally have compared it to “Best of Both Worlds Part 1” and I watched THAT particular two-parter back when it was first-run, when I was a TOS obsessed child of about 7 years old. My now 40 year old jaw dropped at the reveal of Nick Lucarno and him stating the he and Mariner were “going to cause some trouble together…” just as much as it did when I saw a fully assimilated Capt. Jean-Luc Picard state over the Enterprise viewscreen “Resistance is futile, Number 1…” followed by Commander Riker’s command to Lt. Worf “Mr. Worf, FIRE!”
I hope that by the time I’m in my 60s, people will be looking at “The Inner Fight” as one of the greatest moments of the Star Trek franchise, I genuinely believe that Lower Decks IS right up there with TOS and TNG as one of Star Trek’s greatest shows. It’s had a lot to work against, being an adult animated comedy which, on the surface, seems like it would be at odds with the rest of the franchise as a whole. However, the episodes this series has put out over the course of its four seasons (thus far…definitely wanting McMahon’s classic “7 seasons and a movie” for LD 😅) have shown not just a love for the show’s past but also managed to push the show further than the 90s TNG era ever dared to go and has set the path for the show’s future. Both SNW and Prodigy have borrowed heavily from the LD format of episodic plots with season-long arcs, a formula that LD perfected all the way back in Season Two’s “Pakled Threat” arc…an arc which elevated the Pakled to actual intergalactic threat status while keeping them true to their comedic nature (could really only work in a comedy series, so this was a perfect example of LD playing to its strengths…) and ALSO provided our first bit of follow-up to the Dominion War, as it’s hypothesized that the Pakled were able to build such overwhelmingly powerful clump ships from the debris left over from the war…great way of displaying some of the aftermath of war…😅😁
It took a different perspective on Star Trek and I feel it set a beautiful way forward for the franchise as a whole…and I am STOKED to see where all this leads up to next week! 😅🥰😁
Lower Decks is definitely a fun animated romp, but I agree it's so much more than that. I really love when people use the medium of animation to draw you in and then give you in depth, character driven, and emotional storytelling.
I agree about the hug, I also needed that after all the feels immediately preceding it!
Knowing Lower Decks they do know to Hit me in the feels
They reel you in with the jokes then leave you crying on your couch 😂
I had a rather dark thought.
What if the season finale involves Mariner sacrificing herself to stop Locarno… and it’s her turn to scale the Black Mountain?
Only, it’s not just the koala that greets her, but the ghost of Sito Java.
That kind of thing would be a good capstone for her character arc this season.
…Or maybe it will be something different. Either way, I appreciate the big swing that Mike took with this episode and no doubt the finale.
I just wish that some folks on the internet understood Mariner’s arc for what it was because (get this) those same folks hated that Sito was namedropped. And that just baffles me :(
I don't understand hating on that, it totally recontextualizes everything we know about Mariner in a way that actually makes a lot of sense in terms of trauma and survival guilt and struggling to move on, like getting promoted is leaving her behind. It's so good. 😭😭😭😭 It's honestly so well written I think it might have been planned for longer than this season maybe from the very beginning
@@renrants Agreed. But there is one reviewer who shall remain nameless that just… doesn’t comprehend the PTSD and survivor’s guilt of it all.
But yeah, it’s clear as day that Sito must have been in Beckett’s backstory from the very start and Mike’s just been playing the long game.
It’d be nice if that were revealed in a future interview or something.
Yeah, I wanna see if that's the case, because LD was EXPLICITLY always inspired by that episode of TNG, it really doesn't seem like a stretch that there was a long game plan to incorporate it
@@AdamEspersona You can name him. It's fine. TrekCulture might be the single largest channel in this space. It was extremely baffling/disappointing, but it isn't like we're dealing with someone from the Legion of Professionally Butthurt Conservative Grifters (TM) here. I've never known Sean to be problematic outside of this, so I suspect his dislike of the reveal & Mariner's backsliding mental state, though beyond our comprehension, is coming from an honest place, and the uncomfortably ableist framing is just the result of a major blind spot.
But it'll likely come up again, seeing as this is a two-parter. So I guess we'll see if the absolute roasting he caught in the comments will be addressed and/or he tries to at least frame it better or just acknowledges he dislikes it irrationally because that's just how his brain works or whatever. :d
Oh that is a bit disappointing. I haven't been watching a lot of other Trek commentators lately, but I'm surprised he disliked it that much.
I think there are some unproblematic reasons to dislike this revelation, but that's definitely rough 😅
The name "Nova Squadron" was prophetic - young stars that burn bright, but burn out young.
Ooh that's a nice detail!
@@renrants Sorry, my phone died just as I had a witty revelvant reply. I'm not competitive with your attention ( Huge Lie), but in this case, my rural holiday has been a reminder of how much I miss you 💝 and the technology required to be in your orbit when I am not.
That is so sweet 😭😂❤️ I hope you had lots of fun on your trip, but it's definitely nice to get back to our pocket friends too!
@@renrants Yes. I love me my plumbing, hot running water, air conditioning, clean sheets, and Ren. (Not necessarily in that order)
Well thanks to this Show I'll plan on staring to collect both Old and New Star Trek Shows to get on Blu-Ray this Holiday season
Great plan! I've been buying older series on DVD so I can I subscribe from Paramount between seasons 🤣
then I shall plan on it@@renrants
I wonder if Beverly Crusher can tap dance to the Al Gore Rhythm....
The dancing doctor can do anything 😎
So this is definitely the "can of worms" episode for the series thus far. Jeez, where do I begin...
Interesting that these lizards basically go Jurassic Park on the energy fence. However the fence design is very similar to the energy fence from TNG "Attached" when Jean Luc and Beverly are trying to escape from Kesprytt.
Big dynamic here that Captain Freeman included T'Lyn in the meeting to discuss Mariner's well being. It shows she's paying attention to whom is close to her daughter.
No explanation given why Thomas Riker needs to be escorted back to earth. Is he no longer in prison? Or perhaps will we see him in the finale? Hmm.
With the retconned timeline from Picard, Beverly Crusher would be heavily pregnant at this point. That would make Mariner 30-something.
Another Star Wars homage: I just noticed the window designs in the control room on New Axton are similar to a Star Destroyer bridge, and the personnel uniforms are like Imperial officers. Also the computer interface stations are built on hexagonal risers.
Mariner is totally morose until the shuttlecraft goes to red alert, then she yeets Boimler right out of the chair. This behavior gets explained later in the cave.
Mariner mentions the battle with the Pakleds, and T'Lyn responds by asking her if she was in that battle. Mariner says, "Yeah. Wait, were you?" So now we know T'Lyn hasn't been sharing much about herself when not on away missions with the others.
T'Lyn throws Vulcan-style shade at Mariner: Mariner: "I could have handled that Cardassian." T'Lyn: "I have no doubt you would have tried." I was laughing so hard I had to pause the episode.
In the cave: "You are Starfleet." "Yeah." "But you are also a warrior." "No, I'm not. My mind clears up when something's trying to kill me." "You wage war with yourself." So for the first time, Mariner acknowledges how dysfunctional her coping mechanisms have been, and is forced to face the depth of her denial. This goes right back to why she is rash in crisis situations, like yeeting Boimler out of the chair. Huge character development here.
Also in the cave: "And it got her murdered by Cardassians!" So we find out why Captain Ramsey previously referenced Mariner's glowing achievements at the academy; Mariner had modeled herself after Sito. We also find out why Mariner uses Cardassians as her punching bags in the holodeck when she's working out. Mariner never healed from this; she has spent more than a decade with maladaptive behaviors trying to avoid her trauma. This has got to be one of the most humanizing moments in Star Trek history.
Then we find out Mariner fought in the Dominion war. I honestly was not surprised by this; it had been hinted at in multiple previous episodes. However, I WAS surprised that her best friend being eaten on the Quito wasn't referenced. I mean, her boyfriend turned into a plant-demon and chomped her in half, spattering blood all over Mariner in the process. I guess that trauma catharsis will have to wait for a session with Meeglimo.
Closing out the cave scene, we learn that Klingons can make great counselors. Props to Kahless for all those scrolls of warrior philosophy.
The Bynar closed captions simply say "speaking Bynar." Thanks, that's helpful.
We find out the Scroll Mouse doesn't overpower other vessels. The various crews mutinied. To me, that's a bit of a stretch. The writers better have a good explanation for that in episode 10.
Mariner recognizes Nick immediately. However, she doesn't seem happy to see him.
So we finally get most of the gaps of Mariner's backstory filled in. Some people aren't happy with the connection to Sito because it feels like an unmotivated name-drop. I'm ambivalent. It's not a totally unreasonable plot. It really brings depth to her character and that's what was important. I admit I did not expect the name-drop at all; when Mariner said her name my mouth fell open. Well done writers.
Overall best episode of LD so far.
So many great observations here, especially re: Mariner and the Cardassians.
T'Lyn's one liners always have me cackling too, I love her and Mariner's dynamic in particular
@@renrants I can't decide if the writers are really good at writing into unexplored plot lines in established canon, or if they're retconning so subtly we don't notice. If it's the latter, I'm sure someone will put the inconsistencies on blast. But I haven't seen that yet.
going to make a prediction for the season finale.
A major Twist is that's not Nick Locarno... Kinda. At some point Locarno got into a Transporter Accident with Tom Paris and got Tuvixed, but at that time hardly anyone noticed because both Locarno and Paris look exactly alike to begin with. Dose sorta explain how Locarno can design a Small yet OP Ship.
Anyhow the conclusion will be Locarno and Paris being Seperated... After being Massed Tuvixed with so many other Characters into the Biggest Cronenbergian Blob you will ever see
Nick should have just stolen Tom Paris's identity. Have you seen the resemblance? Uncanny!
Omg that would be such a Trek style storyline too 😂
@@renrantsI mean, the "Spock's Beard" trope practically redefined the evil twin gimmick.
@michaelnolan6054 truly iconic 😂😂😂😂
Jippers are something you drink on a beach! (Short Trek:"The Escape Artist)
Thank you! I still wanna try em 😂
Yeah, those were some crazy times on Tattooine...I mean New Axton...especially there at Mos Eisley...I mean Mudd's.
For real 😂😂😂 it has such Tattooine vibes
Generally, I love this twist. I'm sure this was planned from the start. I mean, the whole show was named after that episode. The one small issue is that Sito claimed she was persona non grata at the Academy after the Nova Squadron debacle. Which means either she was exaggerating or that Mariner wound up turning her back on her at some point after the incident. But I'm not about to let the details get in the way of enjoying the story, and I'm excited to see what's waiting for us in the finale. See you soon!
Oh you didn't know? Tom Paris and Nick Locarno are half-brothers. Admiral Paris liked to sleep around.
Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if they gave that as the Canon explanation 😂😂
Seeto, Sito was a character that stayed around long after the episode finished. To volunteer to help someone you should hate, with your future on the line. I like to think that Starfleet would approve. Thank you great review of a very good episode.
Thank you for your comments! I agree, I was very moved by Sito's willingness to help and risk her own safety, especially with the outcome
I can't wait!
In chunks so if one part is unacceptable, the other parts will be posted. I think that those who struggle, sacrifice for Peace without resorting to War are the highest of Heroes. Thank you.
See?!?! See?!?! DOUBLE ROBERT DUNCAN MCNEILL VOICE CAST!!!!
Gimme the double cameo in one episode paramount, give it to me! 😤
Biliups being in disguise reminds me of that time in buzz lighyear of star command where it’s revealed buzz takes on an alias for helping zurgs lackeys escape.
Omg it is kind of the same vibe 😂
@@renrants oh I’m so glad I’m not the only one who remembers that show.
I don't think anyone expected Locarno to be the villain of this season. I mean half the reason Tom Paris exists is because Paramount couldn't bring back Locarno as a regular cast member on Voyager. I wonder what changed.
They actually could have apparently done it, it wasn't a licensing issue, they just thought Locarno was irredeemable 😂
screenrant.com/star-trek-robert-duncan-mcneill-paris-locarno-return/#:~:text=Star%20Trek%3A%20Voyager's%20Tom%20Paris,Star%20Trek%3A%20The%20Next%20Generation
Honestly I'm not sure about that though, the fact that he decided to shoulder the blame to protect the others once the truth came out shows he had some good in him, I think a redemption arc could have worked for him and would have meant a lot more than Tom Paris' off screen conduct he needed redemption for
@@renrants Either way I guess that makes Locarno the evil counterpart to Tom Paris.
@Werezilla unless Tom Paris is actually the evil one and he's posing as Locarno 😱
Not knowing the backstory of Sito (haven't seen TOS since I was a little kid), it felt like an asspull at first because I was like "who is this friend of Mariner's with the tragic backstory that we've never heard of before on the show but is majorly influencing her behavior?!?!" But after realizing it's a character whose tragic backstory we saw play out on a different ST show, I really liked it.
I do wish we'd seen a little bit previously of Mariner hinting at the motivation *why* she doesn't want a promotion that was revealed in this episode- specifically something like calling out "what, is being an ensign not good enough, not important enough?", etc to higher ranked officers like her mom & Ransom (doesn't have to reveal the Sito part, just hint at the "if it was good enough for her, it's good enough for me" underlying feelings) Although that just may be in the forefront of my brain from this episode repeatedly highlighting in Captain Freeman's B plot about Starfleet supposedly thinking they're better than everyone (mirroring, in my mind, how higher ranked officers have a tendency to assume everyone prefers showing they're "better" than others via getting promotions and pursuing ranking up)
Lower Decks has been a favorite TNG reference of mine for awhile and my jaw was on the floor 😅
I agree it would have been nice to see a few more hints building up this reveal, but I'm still happy with it.
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Thank you! That means a lot to me 🥺
Well, I successfully called nothing, except the obvious of this season Mariner has to resolve her primary issue. Hoping for some Boimler/Ma'ah interaction next episode, giving him a bit of a push towards confidence. Then 2 more seasons because there hasn't been an opportunity for the next bit of growth. Boimler needs to get pushed into emergency command of the ship and pass through his own trial by fire. Then we need one season of wrap up and 'the next generation' of Lower Decks to have time to end with a flash forward/time shenanigans of the LDers perhaps ala All Good Things.showing them having grown into where they want to be.
Oh man that would be nice. This show definitely needs at least seven seasons 🥺❤️ I'd love to see them start to mould a new generation of Lower deckers 😅
And I agree they should push Boimler more. I'm still surprised his death was handled with such nonchalance.
Boimler had kind of taken a bit of a back seat this season, actually. I wonder if Jack Quaid was busy with other projects or something 🤔
I dunno if Boimler would really take to the "Klingon approach" as well as Mariner does.
Lmao imagine him trying to fight a Klingon 😂
@@renrants Maybe he could, like, start with a targ and work his way up? 😆
13:50 Some of us did the math over on Reddit. We figure she was probably in her first year at the Academy in 2368. Meaning Wesley would've ended up in her class when he had to repeat his second year after "The First Duty."
Ooh that's helpful!
@@renrants I figure she's 32 at most. Possibly as young as 29, depending on what age she joined the Academy.
The math is easy to figure out she's 31. The entire squadron that got set back Wesley, Sito and Hajar would have been in his class. And everyone at the academy would have known what happened.
So she graduated let's say 71 or 72 and she would have been baby ensign or just promoted lieutenant JG when the Dominion War.
Remember Amina Ramsey is a full Captain would basically about 10 to 11 years service so you can imagine how fast the promotions were coming during that war.
Also my guess Ren is that based on her experience that she dealt with potentially she could have reached the rank of acting lieutenant commander.
If she hadn't gone the route she went behavior wise she would commanding a ship right now just like Amina Ramsey or be an XO.
Remember the episode when Amina came aboard she offered her XO of her ship
I like Mariner getting the other crew men to work together. Work together to solve problems. We could use that. Thank you.
It was so wholesome!
3:22 Every single day, she just wakes up and chooses violence, doesn't she? 😄
She really does 😂😂😂
I just went from catching the latest South Park Special Joining the Panderverse where there doing a bunch of Multiversal Stuff to them poking FUN at Disney for all of there Box Office Failures to remembering to catch the latest episode to Lower Decks
Enter the Panderverse is going to be regarded as a milestone moment in entertainment history. The woke agenda of being woke for woke's sake has corrupted the creative process of mainstream Hollywood. Mike McMahan is one of the few who recognize this and is willing to take a stand, albeit luke-warm. If you'll notice, Lower Decks has focused progressively less on wokeness in seasons 3 and 4 and more on solid plots and fan-favorite canon. People who got so turned off by the wokeness of Discovery and Picard season 2 (I'm one of them) that swore they would never watch Star Trek again, are actually watching Lower Decks. When Disney sees that all their acquired IPs are dead in the water and Paramount IPs like Star Trek are still earning new viewers, they'll get the message.
ether way it's best for What South Park is at is best poking at everything and everyone @@josephsheranda
@@josephsheranda Lmao, Star Trek is one of the single most inherently woke franchises that has ever existed, and Lower Decks is probably the single wokest thing that has ever have ever come out of it. You don't know what woke means and you are hopelessly media illiterate.
I'll admit Joseph's comment bummed me out a bit, because at least for me, Trek's "wokeness" is part of what always drew me to it, highlighting the unseen and unheard stories of prejudice and marginalization made me feel seen and heard. It helped me contextualize a lot of the harms I saw every day around me.
Trek is at its best when it's willing to be political and to be a voice for marginalized communities through both inclusion and allegory.
Most of the growing pains with modern Trek are issues with adapting it to long form seasonal arcs and action heavy storytelling that Studios think are all audiences want to see. I'd even argue in some ways Modern Trek ™️ isn't actually as woke as 90s trek, despite being better at inclusiveness.
@@josephsherandaCan you please define the word "woke" for me?
9:40 THAT FACE HE MAKES THO 😂
It's so cute! 🥺
@@renrants It looks like he's trying to growl and sneeze at the same time! 🤣
14:15 Surprising almost no one, it seems that the only way to get a straight answer out of Mariner is with a fight to the death. 😆
She's nothing if not consistent 😂😂😂
What a great episode! I think it would be funny if T'Lyn encounters Locarno and Paris only to paraphrase the comment Vala did on stargate "I know nothing about your fair planet... other than it seems to have a rather interesting if somewhat limited gene pool"
Lmao that would Crack me up 😂
@@renrants it would fill me with joy... until I suddenly realize that after this Thursday there is no set time for any new trek for a long while :(
@windgraceproject I'm so sad. Honestly it gives me a chance to catch up on the other Trek content I've put on the back burner, but it'll be hard to keep myself accountable without a weekly release, I'll have to find a new show in the meantime 😅
@@renrants If you find yourself in need of something outside of Trek, Jack Quaid also stars in My Adventures with Superman. It has really similar vibes to Lower Decks, in that it also has a tremendous amount of heart and a deep love & understanding of Supes' lore & character, while still delighting in trying new & interesting things with it.
Oooh fun! I'll check it out, I really liked him in The Boys as well
3:48 some how the alien bar pretty much reminds me of Star Wars of Episode 4 A New Hope
It does have a very similar vibe to the cantina, doesn't it? 😅
only true Sci-Fyi nerds like me can figure it out@@renrants
I loved the big reveals in this and Mariner's backstory exploration. What I'm really curious about now though is Locarno's endgame. Why did he choose to go about it this way and what exactly is he hoping to accomplish? I'm really excited about tomorrow. My only complaint was that the B plot was a bit weak, but the puppet gag still made me laugh, and with an A plot like this, who cares?
I had fun with the B plot because I love seeing Captain Freeman outsmart people.
I agree I wonder about Locarno's motives. I almost think he's doing all this to somehow try to ingratiate himself to Starfleet again, but he could also just want revenge 😅
9:00 That line makes me think she had to do that at some point.
It certainly gives that impression, that whole scene made my heart hurt
She probably did. Remember back a few episodes ago when she was on deep space nine and she knew that Klingon.
But...but...HE GAVE OFF SPARKS!!!
I'd hope that Season 4 of Lower Decks gets a Blu-Ray release and I really hope that Season 5 will be coming next year
Same to both things!
Whenever they get the actors strike settled they will. The writers settled about 3 weeks ago and I'm quite sure they're probably writing episodes
The actors are right around the corner from settling too!
Last Castaway Diva, the song in the last 10 minutes of ep. 2 brought tears for many reasons. Hope you can enjoy it. I am. Take care. Are you gonna do another horror review? Thank you.
I'm just about finished with a series review of The Fall of the House of Usher!
Are there any specific horror movies you'd like to see reviewed? I'm definitely planning to do more even when it isn't spooky season 😂
@@renrants Thank you for asking, but it took a great while for titles to come to mind. I never watched it, but The Day of the Triffids from the 60s seemed interesting. I think I would trust your judgement. There is a TV movie from 1986, Desert Bloom.
The story involves Rose Chismore's youth. She flashes back and remembers her coming-of-age. Her recollections are sometimes less than sweet, particularly those of her troubled and alcoholic stepfather. Her memories of Robin, her first love, are much happier, and she also recalls her colorful Aunt Starr, whose visit is fun, but also detrimental to her family's health. The setting of 1950s Nevada bomb testing is increasingly significant to the development of the story.
One TV movie that I saw on HBO was Florida Straits, with the excellent Raul Julia and Fred Ward.
A Cuban exile hires a crew to smuggle him back to Cuba.
Gideon's Daughter. A melancholy BBC special with Bill Nighy. It's about loss and grieving. I re-watched it quite a number of times.
Anyway, sorry I don;t have any good horror suggestions. Will look forward to your reviews. Thank you.
I'm not a cetechion biologist (aren't we both So over that ST4 pick-up line?), but I hope the whale in the art behind you, beneath the sperm whale behind you is a "right whale." Best part? It's facing left. ❤❤
Omg now I hope so too 😅
sorry, Right whales have no dorsal fins. Finback? I’m probably wrong.
Poor Nova Squadron.
Indeed 😅
I thought the bounty hunter was Nick. I'm not the only one fooled. A decoy by the writers.
Remains to be seen, but I'm reminded of Picard s3. OH NO, THE YOUNG ARE TAKING OVER. Unless I got this backwards, Nick got the younger crew to rebel.
Which. Oddly lines up with T'Lyn. She DID "rebel". Meh, just speculating.
Caves was a great filler episode. Looking forward to the finalé. On a spectrum, if it ends more in a speech than a phew phew, I'll be happy.
Yeah, a less action heavy finale would be great.
I'm wondering if they're going to find a way to bring Sito back since we never saw a body in TNG's Lower Decks, apparently the writers had intentionally left the door open with plans to bring her back back in the day and again in DS9 but didn't follow through, although I can't decide if I'd like it or not this much later.
I'm basing my opinion on the spoiler trailer for episode 10, which you may or may not have seen. So I won't state any specifics. However, I would say that a non-violent resolution to the season is unlikely.
My comment was removed. Very sorry. What part was not appropriate? Was it the war comment or the kdrama comment? Sorry.
That's very strange! I didn't remove it so it might be CZcams doing something weird
@@renrants Thank you. Sorry.
@gmatgmat no need to apologize you didn't do anything wrong by my estimation, I wonder why CZcams did that! 🤔
this was a Great episode can't wait for the Season finale
Me too! Although I'm sad the season is already over 😭
I feel your pain sister this is my favorite go-to Star Trek series that helps me fill the void of missing Final Space to my in between for binging episodes of Rick and Morty and catching the latest episode to Lower Decks@@renrants
The bright side is it gives me a reason to do a full rewatch 😅
I see this as commentary that star fleet sucks at taking care of their officers mental health
It's definitely an ongoing problem 😅
As somebody who fought in a war personally and forgive me for saying this that's a BS answer.
You can have all the counseling in the world and there's no way you're going to wipe out the memories of what you saw or what you felt or anything else like that.
You got way too many people that there is a magic wand to make what people like Mariner went through go away. There ain't no such thing.
Background on me. I was in Iraq and Afghanistan as a hospital corpsman with the Marines. I have known people just like Mariner. Great people wonderful human beings and if you go through the stuff to take through through they come back different they come back changed. There's no such thing getting over it and the fact that you got people in reviews that do not understand that is a shame.
I definitely agree with what you're saying although I think it's also true that having robust mental health support also goes a long way in terms of giving people tools to make the burden of that kind of extreme trauma easier to process where possible and carry where not.
That said, there isn't any magic wand, even if you do somehow get through the mental part of it, extended fight or flight and terror like that basically rewires your entire nervous system
Episode 10 spoilers! Spoiler alert! Do not click unless you really mean it!
IGN has leaked the trailer for episode 10. For whatever reason the showrunners thought it was a good idea to pack a 38 second trailer with more spoilers than you can shake a stick at.
For starters, we finally learn the name of the mystery vessel. No, it's not the USS Scroll Mouse (dammit!). Nick has named it "Nova One." This is reference to Nova Squadron from TNG: "The First Duty." Also, Nick's jacket is adorned with a design of a Kolvoord Starburst, the same maneuver that got cadet Joshua Albert killed.
This is not to be confused with the Nova class of starships. The USS Equinox seen in Voyager was a Nova-class scout vessel. So we don't know the commissioned name of the ship. I assume Nick renamed the ship much like Captain Kirk renamed the Klingon bird of prey in ST IV "HMS Bounty."
Mariner recognizes Nick immediately, yet says that she barely knew him at the academy. Mariner hasn't aged relatively speaking, but Nick looks like a middle-aged greying man. This seems a bit of a misstep.
Nick has assembled a ragtag fleet of all the stolen vessels. This REALLY seems like a stretch to accomplish by himself. It also feels like a callback to how the Maquis insurgency was formed. I sincerely hope the writers explain this by having Thomas Riker as Nick's partner-in-crime in episode 10. It would make the whole scenario a lot more believable with that legendary Riker charisma in command.
They better blow the doors out next week. Buckle up.
I saw the early release clip too, definitely lots of room to speculate still, but surprising they have so much away actually
I do wonder if they're going to bring Sito back though, the door is open since we never saw a body.
@@renrants I had that thought as well. It briefly was a hopeful, feel-good moment. But realistically, it would be bad writing because it would cheapen her sacrifice. It would also thrust her character into too prominent of a position.
The only TNG character that I really, REALLY feel cheated on is Commander Sela. I can imagine a thousand ways ST: Nemesis could have been better if she had been the main antagonist. Unfortunately Gene Roddenberry was long gone by then, and he was Denise Crosby's only saving grace; the other showrunners were fed up dealing with her egotistic diva attitude.
Yeah, I have mixed feelings about the execution (pardon the pun 😭😭) of that being effective enough to work, but I'm also a sentimental baby and wanted Sito to live so bad I probably wouldn't be mad about it 😅
I think Denise Crosby wasn't actually that bad, she didn't often get sort of put in the background, and series back then were a HUGE comittment because the seasons were so long! I haven't heard much else about her being a diva or anything other than wanting to leave the show