Coin Magic: Which Coins are Best for Coin Magic?
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- čas přidán 16. 05. 2024
- This is a common question when getting started with coin magic. I have good news for you! I lay out all of my thinking on the subject for you to make a more informed decision. Probably some advice you may never had considered before.
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The world needs more like you Rick, such an inspiration!
That's a mighty good compliment! Much obliged!
Talk about an underrated channel! I just got into JB Bobo and been shifting from card slights to coins, and this channel is great
Its an absolute underrate channel! For a novice magician like myself this is a treasure trove.
I just wanted to let you know that I have been wanting to practice coin magic and routines for a very long time. And have seen a lot of different coin tutorials online. But nothing that compares to your Channel! I just wanted to thank you so very much for sharing your wonderful coin magic and style of teaching which is so clear and concise that I can actually practice even though I have rheumatoid arthritis in my hands. I am starting to learn different sleights and be able to turn them into the routines that you teach so clearly. So again I just wanted to thank you with all of my heart for your channel and taking the time to teach so many people how to do coin magic properly with clear instructions and teaching. I love the way that you speak slowly and do the explanations slow enough that I can actually understand it. and it's giving me the ability even with rheumatoid arthritis in my hands to be able to try it and actually learn it and make it into routines that people would enjoy watching!!
Thanks Rick for this inspirational video!
Always GREAT INFO
Thank you so much for this video!!!! It really helped me out by answering a couple of doubts I had 😊
This is the answer to the question I had thanks !
I love this session; it answered a question we have all asked.
As a full time performer I also agree with the other comments. You have a very pleasant and clear way of educating. Great video's! Thank you for taking the time to do this!
Great videos definitely plan on delving more into coin magic
@5:32 Don't say "examine these." Simple, but great advice. So glad I subscribed to your channel.
Another amazing video, thanks for the tips Rick
Glad to help!
Silver is the most reflective metal and that’s why clad looks more dull silver looks great in coin magic I use barbers half dollars and Morgan’s/Peace dollars!
I’m enjoying watching these videos Rick. Its really helping me with my coin magic. Thanks for sharing.
Glad to hear it
I forgot to mention that I've watched a lot of other people's videos. Your teaching style beats everyone I've watched hands down. Crisp, clear and concise with great explanations and clear video. Couldn't ask for more.
I appreciate that!
That’s why I bought added recoil as soon as I saw ricks name
You are a great teacher, and a pleasure to listen to.
I’ve subscribed, and enjoy your videos.
Thanks for stopping by!
I can’t simply express how thrilled I am to have found your channel.
Glad to hear that!
You should write a book ! your philosophy on magic and technique is spot on! I just subbed you.
Another well done video essay. Thanks!
Thanks!
Wonderful insights! I love that you acknowledge the minutia- that there is not one solid answer to that question.
I am very glad I stumbled upon this channel!
Thanks for watching! And, leaving a comment.
@14:27 - crowing is apparent = move in more sideways and the angle is also covered ⤷ smooth operator for a nerd - Thanks especially for the wisdom you have gained & stay safe mate
Great content!
I appreciate your advice 😊
Glad to help!
Excellent topic to cover!
Glad you enjoyed it
This is the best content for coin magic 100% thank you for doing this videos Rick.
Glad you enjoy it!
I really like the philosophical excruciating minutia in magic. Many folks don't care, nor have any idea. However, I like the way you go about it. As you get into THAT!
I've done and been involved in magic for a LONG time (45 years, off and on).
What you present is DEEP! MAGIC!!! 😎
I appreciate that
I love your passion even as it applies to US history. I find myself commenting on your videos more than anyone. You’re an incredible instructor, you speak at the perfect speed for someone like me and you’re very intelligent. I appreciate you and what you do. I’d be interested in seeing videos made by you about music and guitar (another hobby of mine). Thanks for all you do!
In that case I recommend Rick Beato's channel
This is fantastic. Love the half vs dollar size comparison.
Glad to help!
BEST coin tutorials on CZcams! Keep up the good work. Where did you get your Okito box? I love the design.
it's a Buddha Box by Chazpro Magic
Love your videos man thanks for sharing! Your retention/french drop vid helped me out a bunch would never have used my retention as it was before I watched that. Im having problems with windows, my fingers are quite skinny and when i have a coin in finger palm and pick another up my fingers separate a little and I flash. Its not always convenient to switch to another palm and it looks really cramped awkward if I try to force my fingers together. Any tips?
Try practicing with a bigger coin, or a poker chip. Also, remember to keep a soft touch. Handle the coins like eggs. A lot of times the windows are bad because you're gripping too hard. Try finger palm with only the third finger. This is a position that is between Nowhere Palm and full finger palm. This can help your windows.
Loving these videos Rick, keep em coming!! :D I am not a professional, just learning sleight of hand for fun and to show friends and family and am finding your advice really useful, thanks! Apologies for the long comment heh.
I tend to carry around a half dollar sized Chinese coin and often some half dollar and English copper penny replicas just because they're basically the same size as Australian twenty cent coins and I'd prefer to kick things off with a borrowed coin if possible. But I did invest in a set of silver dollars from Copeland coins which I love. But I'm wondering...
In Sly Palm (which is awesome btw), when you're talking about vanishing the last of 3 coins using slip n sly, you say you can do it if you're careful and if "your coins are conditioned properly", I'd be really interested to see something from you about what that means exactly.
For example instructions from Copeland coins were not to wash the coins or try and clean them, that the silver highlights would come out naturally as I handle them. But not being a working magician, I never carry them around with me (they're expensive so I carry cheap replica dollars around) so really only practice with them. It would take about 12 centuries for me to bring out the highlights just by handling them, but I'd like them to be as shiny as the ones I see others have, kind of...now.
Another example is in Ponta's winged silver in Sick, you may recall how he slides the coins down his fingers when displaying how many are in each hand. My dollars simply will not slide across each other without being pushed (eg by the thumb). Which is awesome if I need to move them as a stack, but means I can't use them for that display/sleight. Is there something that can be done about that? And if so would that change how they talk because they're currently really quiet?
A video around how to care for (condition?) coins and what differences doing so makes to them, as well as maybe if there are advantages or disadvantages to using certain types of coins for certain things would be really interesting. I notice there are some questions above about where you get your coins and how you treat them so maybe others would find your advice on these things helpful as well?
Anyway keep the great videos coming, whatever they're about, I really appreciate all the advice so far (and thanks too for the roll retention I use it a lot it's amazing)!
Thanks!
For me the best are soft coin like Morgan,barber and half crown
Love your videos man! could you post something about "practicing"?
Oh yeah! Got it on my list
great video
i think it all depends on what you are doing, also, i love dollars but i cant hold them in jw grip or mutobe palm
I started learning coin magic from David Roth and had the privilege of meeting him in person and he reassured me after meeting him that the size of the coin is irrelevant for the exact same reason you mentioned in your video, David always stated that he had small hands and that he felt most comfortable with half dollars for most performances because of the size of his hands, myself also I can relate,but I’ve also performed tricks using dollars I felt added a certain something to the trick that I felt easier performing with,probably less slight of hand related(not everyone) micheal ammmars coin silk routine to be precise,it’s a very personal thing so I hope everyone can relate and do what they most feel comfortable with.
If you can, in the future I'd like to see a video on Okito boxes.
Great channel bro, just sucks with coin sets being so expensive, i use local old silver coins from south africa, a set of morgans with a shell, would set me back a months rent, with the exchange rate, bonus is that i had to learn to do effects through use of sleights only, pros and cons, i guess, keep up the great work on your channel bud, really enjoy it.
Thanks for watching!
Great video Rick
Thanks!
My grandfather left me an 1884 Morgan dollar. It’s not only my lucky coin, it’s my favorite coin to do magic with.
love it, more close up hand shots please!
Will do!
Love those eagles!
Did you play the guitar as well? Love the coins I’ve just started using Morgan’s over the libertys I’ve messed about with for years. I really want to be decent coin guy before I get too old....am I too old? I’ve forgotten more magic than I know.
Smilesotheylikeyou
superb coin magic
I prefer half dollars and I use the Kennedy halves. They are easy to purchase. I go into a bank and buy a roll of them. Then I usually have at least four to five with the same year and appearance. Then after I vanish one and then bring it back it is the same year. I do a lot of Okito box magic. Therefore being close-up nobody will notice a 1971 coin reappearing as a 2018 coin. I find that these coins actually have a good glint of reflected light when doing a retention vanish and also a nice ringing tone when they coalesce when I pour them from my Okito box. Just my opinion.
You make some very convincing arguments for larger coins. I was pretty set on quarters because common pocket change is easy to come by.
You keep saying larger coins are harder to work with, but honestly I'm having trouble palming quarters because they're so small. My hand just looks like it's obviously hiding something.
Right. If you go too small it is equally as difficult; and awkward looking. Plus, Quarters are really best for 1 on 1.
If you want something more recognizable, consider the Kennedy half dollar or Eisenhower Dollar.
Best coin magic Channel on whole CZcams #nodoubt
Hey Rick, I just found your channel. You have a wonderful skill of communicating. I'm going to update my gaffed coins and you helped me to decide which way to go (Silver dollars.) Gravity flipper. Which vendor do you suggest? I'm looking forward to watching more of your broadcasts Rick. Thanx, -keith
Well I have different things from all the major guys. Todd Lassen doesn't do custom stuff anymore, you need to follow his blog and just see what he is currently working on. When he posts up sets its first come first serve. I just picked up a cool CSB set in quarter size a few weeks back. Here's the blog: coolotis.wordpress.com/
And Jamie Schholcraft does excellent work and could probably customize something for you, just expect to wait a month or more.
coingaffs.com
And I have a couple of things from Roy Kueppers. He does good work and is easy to get in touch with. He has good turnaround time too.
roykueppers.com
I can't believe this popped up on my recommended list today. Just this afternoon I was wondering which size coins to use once I begin. Now I'm wondering what's the most of each size I'm going to need to work with your video when it's ready? I'd like to start collecting them now, because as you said, some of them aren't cheap. Thank you Rick.
You'll need 5 coins for Outside The Box.
You'll need 5 coins for Outside The Box.
@@RickHolcombe Thank you Rick.
6:45 important line in this video in my oppinion
I recently bought a dozen 1965 Kennedy half dollars ($5 each). The milling on their edges provides a great grip.
Real silver Kennedys are a great choice. Probably still recognizable and also silver. But the '65's are 40% silver. 1964 was the last year they made coins with 90% silver. But the 40% is a good option for the price!
Ease of use is actually backwards for me than what you mentioned here. When first learning coin magic, I used half dollars. And when I moved to silver dollars, it was easier for me. Every once in a while I think I want to use half dollars...until I use them and they just feel so small and the moves aren’t as smooth.
The few coin gaffs I have are all made from silver dollars, and I do routines with and without gaffs using silver dollars.
But if I’m going to do a Coins Across routine without gimmicks, or even just a one coin routine, I actually prefer the Silver Eagles. The bigger the coin, the more natural it feels for me. Now...bigger than a Silver Eagle? No. I prefer Silver Eagles, but in most of my performing and practicing, I use silver dollars.
Also, the milking on the edge of a new Silver Eagle is more conducive to ease of (classic) palming than, say, an 1881 silver dollar. That silver dollar has mystique and looks fantastic; but if it has seen enough use that the milking on the edges has worn to nearly smooth, it won’t be as effortlessly palmed as the larger, heavier, but more sharply milled Silver Eagle.
So, yeah...coin size and selection is definitely subjective. I never tell anyone they’re wrong for using whatever they use. Because it’s a personal choice and comfort with their chosen tools makes their magic better. And a master, (such as Eric Jones), can make adjust and adapt so that practically any coin can work in almost any situation.
Just found your videos a couple of days ago, but I’m enjoying them! Thanks for making them available!
Thanks for watching!
Thats the Video i like
Thank you
Glad to help!
That is why I do my coins across with jumbos
I generally use dollars size coins because I'm a big user of curl Palm and edge grip, and I've seen that with small coins it's impossible for my hand not to look crooked. I'm from France so I started with 50cts€ and they are TINY, so when I got my first dollar sized coin my level improved so much that in a few weeks i learned things that would have took me months. The thing is no matter the size of the coin, it need to be able to be concealed without your hand looking crooked and it has to fit you (you have to be confortable with it). Finally, I think that bigger coins are more visual for sure but if you can't do proper clean magic with it, there is no point in staying with those big fat coins.
Also, the practice with large coins gives you a softer touch when you handle smaller coins. I see too often people gripping coins too hard. It takes much less effort to hold a smaller coin, so don't contort your hand.
The coins are from coplend coins?
I use Morgan dollars and both 1951 Franklin Half dollars as well as the Walking Liberty halves. I use the 1951 Franklins because that is my birth year.
I absolutely love the Walking Liberty half dollars because they are just gorgeous coins. And I use the 1964 Kennedy half dollar coins because they are flipping; beautiful. The '64 is also 90% silver. I do a fair amount of magic with coin boxes (The David Roth Okito coin box is a great tool. And when you are working with coin boxes, make certain that all of the coins have the same date.)
I have severe arthritis in my right hand, and coin magic has gotten very difficult for me to perform well. After he canceled on me twice, I got to see a hand surgeon. He showed me the X-rays of that hand, pointing out the bone spurs along the outer aspect of my thumb, and the contracture of my middle finger. That makes taking a coin between my right index and middle finger and then bringing the coin horizontally into the web nearly impossible. This video really addressed that issue. I watched it again and again, and then I watched it some more. It is really helping. So thank you for that.
So happy to help!
@@RickHolcombe You have no idea. The surgeon said any surgery would likely reduce range of motion. So that's not going to happen :-)
thanks for the awesome video!! *sorry for the long comment* :)
i wanted to ask how can i become a better performer? like how can i get control of my audience, i have been working on blink by Eric Chien for 2,5 months practicing for 4-5 hours a day and i thought that i was in a good position to perform it in public(school) but the moment i do it to my friends they don't give me the chance to reset,so after 2,5 months the reaction i got was "u cant fool us with this bullshit" i just feel sad now and i am scared to perform in public.
i cant afford getting special coins to perform super triple coin or three coin across but now thinking about performing them in public scares me.. i dont want to give magic secrets. Any ways thanks for the awesome videos! keep up the work :))
Thanks for your comment! The Blink Vanish is really cool, but it's not a trick on its own. People aren't being fooled because they know its just in your other hand. No matter how well you do it, the only place the coin can be is the other hand. You need to look at Blink as only a sinlge moment within a larger sequence of events. To become a better performer you need to start studying full routines and understand why tthey work and why they are magical. Blink is very visual, but is it really a convincing vanish of a coin? For the best effect on the audience they need to be convinced the coin was placed into your other hand. Be sure to check out my other videos where I talk about thiz a little more. I even have a tutorial for a vanish I created.
@@RickHolcombe yeah im new to magic so im trying to learn as much as i can, i will study coin routines as much as i can! but i didnt do blink in one move i did the normal retention first then blink but i didnt get the chance to reset.. but i will do my best next time! thanks for the help
I made a very similar experience. Blink was my first "real" coin technique too and got reactions similar to yours. I lost my fear of performing live when I started practising full routines...
With all the state quarters having different back designs do you find it difficult to borrow a spectator coin and use a gaff or prepared bent quarter?
Just try and show the heads side as much as possible if it's borrowed. Honestly, I find more and more people that don't carry any change at all anymore. So, taking out your own quarter seems pretty innocent since there's nothing special about it. You could even let them hold it before you go into the effect.
Morgan’s
Where i can buy these morgan dollars?
Hello bro,
The country where I'm from they don't have coin gimmicks for my local coin currency...
Usa is far away from where I live (18 hours)
And all people here have never seen an USA coin in their lifetime..
1.I see magicians performing with Walking Liberty coins Online and in tutorials,
Is walking liberty a must for coin magic? Or is it just their preference?
And
2. can I stick with Kennady half dollars coz their gimmick coins seem cheap compared to Morgan Dollar / walking liberty?
I'm planning to buy an edc set with
4 normal Kennady half dollars + Turtle + Gravity Flipper coin?
Just go with Kennedys. The different coins you see people use are only their preference.
I just got 6 morgan dollars 1903. 🙂
#RickHolcombe where i can get a silver dollar coin?
are those coins boxes on your right are the Boston Plus dollar size?
just half dollar size
@@RickHolcombe where did you buy it from? because those are made by my friend and fellow magician Omar Ferret here in Miami..
There is a belief that large object are had to hide so big coin means difficult to do the moves that what spectator thinks
Where can I get these dollar coins
Amazon, ebay, google
Not easy to borrow a coin in Vietnam or Cambodia! I pulled a 1/2 dollar coin out of a Cambodian kids ear. Should have seen the look on his face...never seen a coin before!
Still shocking! maybe on another level too.
My palms are huge compared to my fingers. Actually makes it difficult for me to palm.
“Aviation was just taking off” pun intended ?
I'm subtle like that! Good catch!
Hi! I just started coin magic but I live in Indonesia where the coins are really lightweight, I wanna purchase a walking liberty half or morgan coins, but I don't know where to buy them. Any suggestions?
www.bluethermagic.com/products/coin-4
@@RickHolcombe WOW THANK YOU SO MUCHH!
In your intro are those Morgans real silver or are they replicas? If real how did you get them so smooth on the face?
I only use real coins. Those particular coins I carefully sanded down the face since they are 1921's. I also aged them with bleach.
@@RickHolcombe how did you sand them down exactly and how do you age them with bleach? Sorry for all the questions. I really appreciate your channel. I have always been interested in coin magic and you are a great teacher. I am glad I found your channel today.
@@JoseRuizMagic Let the coin sit in bleach until it turns black, or as dark as it gets. Then take it out and wash it off with normal soap and water. After that start sanding.
I use 400 grit sandpaper. Lay the coin on the paper and apply equal pressure, not too hard. Move the coin in a figure 8 pattern 10 times. Check the conditon of the coin. You mainly want to get the outer rim of the coin flattened,this will reduce the noise when you have coins stacked together and sliding against each other for routines that need quiet sleights.
Keep repeating 10 cycles at a time, checking as you go. Then do the other side. To finsh I use a 4 sided foam nail buffer to get rid of any lines you might see. I also press it into the low areas of the coin to remove more of the patina from the bleach, I only like a little bit of black remaining just to highlight the edges of the details.
That's pretty much it!
@@RickHolcombe thank you so much for the great information. One last question. Is the 400 grit sand paper for metal?
@@JoseRuizMagic just regular sandpaper
Hi Rick! Can you tell me where can I buy that silver dollar Morgan coin?
You'll find the best price at a coin shop. You'll also have the advantage of seeing them in person and being able to match coins to your liking. If you don't have a shop near you, the next best place is Amazon or eBay. I've never personally purchased coins over the internet, so I can't specifically recommend a particular seller unfortunately.
Thanks for the comment! Your morgans from this video are real circulated coins or silver replicas? I am asking because all morgans what I saw in the internet doesn't look like yours.
@@PatrickMental I only use real silver. If you see replicas they are typically made of steel, not silver. In your search make sure to include "silver" so you don't see replicas. I'd use Eisenhower Dollars over any replica coin. The problem being that those replicas will eventually oxidize and look rusty because of the steel.
I search only silver (I have steel replicas), but every silver morgans don't look that fantastic (this patina and very very used look). So that's why I asked about replicas, because I thougt that coins were specjal prepared for magicians.
Am I the only guy who thinks that people going around with silver dollars and halves is weird ?
I mean if I need special coins how magical is it ?
Im lucky,I'm Canadian. I use toonies. They are everywhere. A little small but the benefits outweigh the drawbacks.
The tricks are more powerful when using a borrowed coin.
I do see that it would be weird for an American to use Canadian coins or Euros but equally weird is watching a guy freak out because he lost a steel quarter or his turtle
Did you listen to my solution for that?
No
Great video for a beginner like me!! Pick me for the give away :D
If you’re not doing coin magic with 3” jumbo pennies then you’re not a real coin magician 😤😤😤