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Wiring The Staging Yard (233)
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- čas přidán 5. 08. 2024
- Last time I pre-built the yard ladder for the staging yard so now I need to install it on the layout. After that I'll go over the wiring that needs to be done before I can install the yard tracks and move on to the switch machines and other components. So let's get started.
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Perfect timing, I'm starting a layout and am planning a staging level as the first step. These episodes are helping me plan my approach to the task at hand, much much appreciated! Will be watching for the rest. Hope I can keep up with you! Thank you!
Dagnabit Larry you hooked me Again made me watch the Goodness all the way through that's slammin sharp setting up the Staging Yard with everything thing above the layout instead of dunking under hitting & straining yourself going under all the time I've seen some other layouts going in this direction building on top but I need to see the Rest of how the Yard finishes out I've used suitcase connectors by 3M for some of my Wiring & through micromark I want to Note 📝 I'm just passing on what I've seen in catalogs they sell a 3M compression tool that makes compressing these Connectors an absolute Breeze..
The Connectors i started using a few years ago & comes in 3 port sizes 2, 3, & 5 is Wago's 221's connectors Wago lever connectors excepts 12gauge to 26gauge Larry i like using in conjunction with these Connectors Wago Ferrules for stranded wire as it keeps the wire from fraying out..
For the Video Larry I was wondering what type of knife you used & was the foam 2 inch or less I seen blue & pink can you get this foam both at lowes or another Hardware store.. This is what I'd like to go to Larry building a layout utilizing foam it Quets the sounds but in certain situations you can top mount your stuff wow what neat innovations.. Being shared
Allen D
The green foam was from Lowes and I believe is their own brand. I used a standard box cutter knife.
Thanks Larry! Always appreciate your videos and instruction. New to the model railroad hobby, so I'm absorbing all that I can take in on the wiring, track, operations, etc.
Thanks Larry, looking forward to the next Video in this Series. Keep Safe.
Yes, it will beca lot closer to home for you. Happy New Year and stay safe-Larry
I always learn something from your videos and you explain everything so well without making it boring or confusing. I always stick around to the end and I’m glad I do because I can’t wait to see you incorporate the new ESP system. Thank you for putting in the time and energy to bring us all of your videos, you are a great teacher. Merry Christmas to you and your family.
Looks so much easier with the suitcase connectors over the push-fit things! The push-fit ones would have to be a lot cheaper to justify using them, I think.
Good idea on using the turnout motors to power the sidings. I remember in the 80s my dad did something similar using a diode matrix to automate a staging yard on his layout (DC of course back then): I could never get my head round how it worked.
Hi Larry, yes it is a great idea. I am looking forward to learning more especially with your viewpoint.
Wow is right. I just watched the demo video. Impressive! Plug-and-play wiring internal to the panel and wireless limitless outputs. Pretty slick!
I also used these type connectors and didn't care for them under heavy application, such as 110 volt. I found on Amazon the type that have levers that will take up to five wires, and i find these more suitable to my layout. They are easier to install than the suitcase type and what you are installing here. Still, to each individual we have our preferences. Thanks for all the info on installation of your yard switches and staging area.
Great one Larry happy holidays👍👍👍
Larry great idea using the internal switch of the switch machines to control the yard track, I am using Walthers switch machines, they have two micro switches installed on the machine, one for the frog power ,the other could be used to control the yard track, now back to the video
you have me interested to see how you are going to wire this yard now, and then sticking around to the end, sounds like it will be a cool project. Can't wait.
Have a wonderful Holiday season.
If you have some free time on Christmas day, 4 pm eastern I do a live stream for the community to come and hang out, spend time together.
Great Video Larry just wanted to say Merry MERRY CHRISTMAS to you and all of yours b4 I headed over to watch Dcc Concepts Sounds 😎
Merry Christmas Larry ... Happy Holidays ... God Bless !!!
Great info🚂❤️👍
Thanks, Larry.
Hi, yes as R Moore says - perfect timing - I'm also planning a staging yard as the first part of a new layout and this is so helpful. I was wondering how I could wire it up without going under baseboard level and I have a similar track bed to yours, I'm also using DCC. I hadn't thought of the trench and daisy chain, that is brilliant. I've been subscribed for about 2 years now and I'll be following this series particularly, thanks a lot.
Phil (in Sussex UK)
Merry Christmas Larry :-)
Larry I like those new connectors when you were placing them on the layout I was wondering how you was going to hide them Then I saw you removed them. They would be much better for under the layout applications. Have a Merry Christmas
Well, I found them to be OK with solid wire but a PITA with stranded wire. Also it surprising how much time it adds to cut the wire to the necessary length, strip it, and prepare it for insertion. I’ll stick with my suitcases. No cutting or stripping needed. Just slip it on, insert the feeder, and clamp it shut.
Those push wire connectors would've worked better going in "upside" down, in other words, the clear part would be sunk into the foam enough so that the flat bottom of the orange part you push the wire into is facing upwards.
Larry, Don't know if you are familiar with Charlie Bishop (an Englishman) but he has a little memnomic he is using in his wiring that I think is easier than the phrasing you use to remember where red and black wires go. His is "black to the back.". (So, of course , that makes red to the front.). Works fine except in reversing/reversed sections.
Would it not be better to use silicone caulk to adhere the yard ladder in? Just in case you had to remove it sometime in the future?
I think the Liquid Nails for Projects would be easier to remove. I have taken it off turnouts that I lifted.
Thanks for the video and the information Larry. I am modeling N-Scale on foam much like yours. Being handicapped it is difficult for me to wire under the layout. I had thought about digging a ditch for my track feeds. I thought about using a straight edge and my knife to dig a "V". What tricks have you learned to dig those ditches?
Lee, just like you described I cut a V then popped out the foam. On the Red Oak N-scale project layout in 2014 the MR staff did something similar running the wires in a channel on the front edge of the foam base. At least with it on top of the layout you can dig down to get to the wires in case of a problem. However make sure to test the wires before covering with scenery.
Larry, thanks for another video with lots of useful ideas. I'm currently in the process of designing a layout with lower level staging but was concerned about having the switch machines and wiring underneath. A couple questions, what's the separation between you decks? Assuming you're using a helix to connect them, what grade are you using.
The separation between the main deck and staging is 19” and my helix will be 6’ diameter with about 1.6% grade. I cut some of the height difference by using a ramp up approach track on the bottom and a ramp down on the main level. I still need about 6 turns in the helix. The helix between the main level and upper deck is only 15” apart and I used the same ramp up and down approaches to the helix there too. I am planning a video series on building the helix later this winter.
@@TheDCCGuy Thank you. Merry Christmas.
Where did you get that cap to cover the tube of Liquid Nails. I haven't found a good way of preserving the adhesive
I found that in the same aisle as the Liquid Nails at Lowes. Since buying a couple packs of those I have never had to toss out a tube gone bad. Works so much better than a nail and tape over the end.
Larry I watched the DCC concepts video , not sure if it would work with Walthers switch machines but did send them a email about it
The ESP system should work with any accessory decoder. All it is doing is generating a switch command and sending it out on the accessory bus.
Larry I would need more information, Walthers switch machines have a decoder built in, but the idea is great, access to my yard is limited
I have some of those on hand and will likely do a video testing the ESP system with a variety of accessory decoders, so be patient as it might be a month away.
Larry no rush , my yard not complete yet
Is the dcc esp components available in the U.S.?
I know that Iron Planet Hobbies has placed an order for them already but I doubt he has them listed yet on the website.
@@TheDCCGuy I contacted DCC concepts directly getting more info on the ESP components
Can this method be used on DC block layouts?
I don’t see why not. And you could even use the ESP wireless system in stand alone mode to build the wireless control panel for it.
@@TheDCCGuy thanks I will give it a shot. Thanks so much. I enjoy your channel
Hey Larry I'm a big fan recently bought Walter's canterlever crossing you know of any other control panels to get this running
Mr Larry. I really would love to ask you a few questions I’ve been into ho trains since I was a little boy and now I’m 44 and I’ve been doing my first DCC real layout. I had my trains in my old place running around the celling into my closet really cool. But I’m not good with wire work. I have MRC control with boater I don’t know how to hook up. Also all my locomotives run on my code 100 track and they stop if I push it a little bite they go and do same thing again. Now if I have it all the way up on my controller and hold the locomotive for a few sec they start running around pretty good around track layout. I would love to know what to do. Bc it’s killing me I have power all the way around I test with a little light on track runs
First try cleaning you loco wheels and then your track, that is the most common cause of the problem you are seeing.