Creality K1 review, is it worth it after 6 months?
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
- Review with flow test for PLA+, Hyper, PETG and ABS+ and my personal opinions after using it for 6 months.
Is it the speedy it promises?
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Timeline:
0:00 intro
0:22 some specs
0:42 Hi! and full disclosure
0:54 we got ripped off for beta testing
1:21 Desing flaw and early problems
2:23 VFA artifacting
4:01 flow test
6:46 TPU
7:46 how about the print quality?
9:58 the flexplate
10:39 vase mode
11:31 realistic print speeds
12:18 Auto bed mesh level
12:52 light and optional camera
13:25 Slicer
14:53 Root acces if you are in to that
15:10 The app
16:05 Should you get one?
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Fire information in this review you probably just caught my first sub ever
Thank you very much. Yes I’m going to buy it I am sure it will do everything I want for my RC planes and modelling hobby hopefully it will do LW PLA. Thanks again great job
ciao, io l'ho comprata con il venerdì nero pagandola 380€ , devo dire che mi è arrivata già la versione aggiornata quindi subito ottimi risultati, io dopo la prima stampa ho fatto subito il root in modo da liberare tutta la sua potenzialità con klipper , infatti un modo diverso per la misurazione degli input ma soprattutto la possibilità di usarla con orca slicer ....una vera rivoluzione con ottimi profili, complimenti per la recensione e per l'impegno che metti in quello che fai, avanti tutta..💪💪
Cheers for a smashing review, here's your well deserved sub and thumb-up!
BTW, the slightly too long chain can be shortened, I haven't gotten around to it myself yet since I'[m a noob and it's only a problem on big prints. (slowly getting there though) ;-)
Goodreview, I have thek1 max, it is an amazing printer. The creality print slicer needs more work! I hope they continue to improve it. I've tried the Orca slicer Italians comes up with longer print time than the creality says so I haven't printed from it YET. It would be great if creality would come upwitha cannedroutine to fully open up clipper instead of us risking brick ingredient themachine. Thanks for sharing us!
I am looking to sunset my fleet of aging Ender 5's as they are nickel- and diming me to death, and this video was a big help in evaluating what's on the market to check out for their replacements, so thank you!
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Thank you! Btw if you are thinking of getting the K1. New K's on the horizon!
I just bought a K1 for $349 from Micro Center. It’s my first printer and it’s working great! I do laser engraving so I’m familiar with certain things. It’s been a good experience so far with Hyper PLA and Inland PLA Pro. I’ve only used creality print, but I’m trying to learn how to make things using Onshape.
Hell yeah brother! That's a steal!
I’m so happy to hear this as I just got the same deal for $350 USD by getting Best Buy to price match Microcenter (there are none near me). It hasn’t arrived yet and I’ve been getting nervous because it will be my first printer and now I’m seeing a LOT of negative reviews. I hope it’s not somehow part of an old batch stuck in a warehouse for 6 mos, heh.
@UncleOfCats that's exactly why I ordered from Creality instead of Best Buy. I wanted the newer version not old stock. It was $50 more but the peace of mind was worth it.
@@NissanOverlandI agree. Unfortunately even though it hasn’t shipped yet I think it’s too late to cancel. Fingers crossed it will be ok or that I can at least do the fixes/upgrades to bring it up to current quality.
@@UncleOfCats fingers crossed. I believe Creality will send you all the parts free of charge if I'm not mistaken.
Im now going to buy this, got a good deal on it and was not sure if I wanted it as my first 3D-printer, but thanks to you I'm going to try it out.
Best of luck buddy!
Haven't read through the comments but just wanted to recommend trying Orca Slicer. I had major ringing with the Creality Slicer and not it had dropped a lot with simply using Orca. I use 2 K1 Max not the K1 but I would imagine the outcome would still be about the same.
Thanks man!
Great video. Now that rooting / full Klipper access is available, I noticed some people diving in and fixing the limitation that Creality puts on input shaping. i.e; only measuring on _one_ axis and using that value for *both* X&Y. It would be interesting to know if having accurate input shaper values for X & Y has an effect on the VFA artefacts that you mentioned.
Hi Steve 😉, i've had some good talks with users and the consensus seems to be that it helps but the vfa is still problematic. I have 1 viewer replacing idlers, bearing on all rotating/sliding parts and the only thing he hasn't done is replace motors and use smaller pulleys. If you look at their new K1C they put smaller pulleys on the motors. Some say the combination of the motors and the bigger pulleys are the source of the vfa problems. Safe to say it's a hardware problem at this point.
good work
Regarding VFA, the community folks working on the Klipper Rooting have discovered that Creality only calculates the ringing frequency on Y and simply applies the same value to X, which would account for the results you mention. Using a full-fledged Klipper configuration would allow you to fix that. Just thought I would share! Thanks for the video!
Yes, while that part is true it also seems to be a mixed result for some people 😑
And thank you!
Ordered the K1 during Black Friday and immediately ordered the Micro Swiss FlowTech Hotend.
Set to ship on Dec. 20th, hopefully I'll have both from the get go.
Orca, root and FlowTech with 0,6mm - I think it'll be a good combo.
How much did you pay on BF? MS hotend looks nice, i just got a bondtech cht with hardend tip. Hope you don't get a lemon 🤞
@@NoizieWorks I payed €459 for the Combo (incl. 2 rolls of hyper filament), but it was €431 regular.
I have been considering a RatRig V-Core 3.1 300mm, but I'll save a build for later.
1st printer, but I bought and ran a Prusa Mk3+ for protypes at work.
Will run PETG/ASA/C-PA for maker / engineering parts.
CHT is a cool easy upgrade.
Good luck and let us know how it goes.
Will do! 3D jake had the K1 for way under 400 during BF. Crazy how low they can go for such a complete package, not going to lie i feel a bit salty but that's what you get with pre orders these days.
@@NoizieWorksI bought one for 387$ and it the updated model and just prints like crazy
Subscribed! Just found your channel last week after a couple K1 purchases.
I bought a K1 via Amazon for $351 USD (with the camera) on Black Friday. The seller provided an extra v2 extruder and hot end.
A couple days later, on Cyber Monday, I bought a K1 Max on Amazon for $544 USD (with 4x free 1Kg rolls of filament). *Both of these prices are after tax.
Both are now rooted and ready to rock with Fluidd. Here's hoping I'll have some time this weekend to test them out because I need to sell off a couple of my older printers to justify these. Do I need both? Probably not, but Amazon provides me 2 full months of use before I decide.
What a steal! Going to root it to but that's for another time as i have a lot of other stuff on the way 😉
Couple of questions Noizie, I recently got a k1, it came with the new parts, getting it locked in, have you tried Orca slicer? Would you be willing to export some of your Presets for PLA/ABS/PETG just to compare speeds, acceleration, etc. etc. for my own curiosity. 2nd, what flow test are you using to get your Volumetric flow measurements if you don't mind? I am more of a resin guy, I have a custom neptune 2 with klipper, really trying to lock in temps and speed with this XY machine. Really feels like I have to pump the heat up a lot more than usual! Love your content, very thorough. Keep going and your consistency will pay off!
Only using creality print right now, if you want those then contact me on insta/facebook. I used the flow testing from cnc kitchen with all the little poops and a precision scale. Thanks! Takes a lot of time too 😉
@@NoizieWorks Cool, thanks for the answer, it seems a lot of people use Stefans flow test, I will give it a shot.
I just ordered
Considering the K1 and the FF Adventurer 5M Pro. I would like your review of the 5M Pro.
Have taken a look for you and pricing,Z height, nozzle temp seems to be in favor off the K1. The nozzle swap thing looks cool if you are in to that. To bad they don't sell it in 300x300 because that's a size i'm looking for next. Kinda want to build a voron at this moment. Going to reach out to them but not expecting anything off it.
Thanks, the 280c max nozzle temp spec is my only concern as I primarily make functional parts. I am most concerned with print accuracy and strength through best layer adhesion with higher temp materials. @@NoizieWorks
What are your speed/ temp /flow settings you are using for your PLA+ prints for a functional part
I like to use the .1 layer height with 350 speed on the walls 450 infill 600 travel 200 support and 240c with cooling on full speed.
Flow is at 102% after calibration and i set support at 98%
430€ Now in EU. I got a Flashforge 5M instead for 400€.
can you please recommend a good 3d printer in this price range that can print asa with 300mm length? i was going to buy this but it sounds like it has a lot of issues
The only option i can see is the sovol sv08 if you get it enclosed but it's still new.
I'm getting one in a month or so,right now you will have to check the day 1 reviews.
Opinions are fairly positive as far as i can see
Where could we get the VFA artifacting test model?
In the creality slicer up top there is a calibration test for vfa and a lot more
You made a tube connector part to plug onto the back of the K1 speedy, could you post the link please? Thanks for your reviews and tips!
Thanks dude! I only made the new chain link and the riser for the top lid. All the rest is stock on this machine.
@@NoizieWorks okay no worries, I found it now.
Is vfa artifacting fixed by root and input shaping x and y separate
I hear mixed results but it's going to be a bit better
That string art piece is cool! Where can I find files for something like that?
www.printables.com/model/602691-fragmented-skull-string-art
@@NoizieWorks awesome, thanks!
Is there a reason you didn't root your k1 for full klipper after 6 months? I have my k1 for a few days now and it works nicely out of the box but still not sure if i will root it.
Yeah for testing it in it's standard config. Honestly i don't feel the need for the moment except if you realy want to use another slicer with wifi integration and all that. People also use it for better bed mesh but i found it to not be a problem anymore. Maybe inputshaper calibration would benefit from it as it still seems that they have no clue how to properly combine x and y compensation.
There is also a lot you can screw up in klipper so it's going to be for the few %.
If you are happy with the experience i would discourage you to do so unless you like to experiment.
I have 2 other printers running klipper so i now my way around a bit. But i think i will just keep using it stock for the first few weeks. Thanks for the answer.
@@michelvangent3683 No problem, een Gentenaar? Zit je niet ver van mij 😉
Best wel, in Nijmegen. Is alleen de achternaam 🙂
@@michelvangent3683 praktisch buren dus 😅 bedankt om te kijken he!
Where can you find the Creality K1 for 350€ in EU?
You will have to wait for the next sales so check 3Djake around the holidays. They had the k1 for 350-370€ on Black Friday.
could you share a link to the cat that you printed?
www.thingiverse.com/thing:3576952
Should my printer be jumping around so much streight out of the box?
SPEEED! Yeah it's normal on high speed moves
hi nice video, can you share cura presets if any?
Hi there, not using cura on the K1 sorry
My gripe, and I have the updated extruder, is that the extruder just stops feeding still.
Sounds like another issue, there was a version of creality print that gave this problem. Did you update to the last 1?
@@NoizieWorksCreality Print and Orca Slicer both. It just stops. When I open up the extruder I find the filament has "mushroomed" after the gears but before the PTFE leading to the hot end. I took a drill bit and tried to make that PTFE end funnel shaped, but it has not been enough.
@@shirgall what material and temps?
@@NoizieWorks Creality Hyper PLA, 220C and 210C (220C was stringing).
@@shirgall i would try to change the ptfe tube and replace the nozzle as it sounds the extruder is not the problem.
Did you put it the plastic insulator between the extruder and the motor?
Yep that's crealitys serial move! Same happened to me with the Ferret and my k1.. Never buy their pre-order. I learnt to wait 6 months before thinking about their new crap
So true! But as i don't receive samples i kinda have to if i want to deliver a review in a timely manner.
@@NoizieWorks I've seen some content creators sending them an email to get e free printer in exchange for an honest review and it seems to work! It really sucks trusting them with your wallet
By the way most of the issues you stated I have fixed! Like the camera angle, rooting to print from your slicer, etc. I could give you a hand if your still stuck at it
@@rafaelnasser1636 feel free to contact me and have a talk, i was going to look into it and make a vid about it but i have to much stuff waiting so it would help me out big time if you wouldn't mind.
Just received a K1 and I'm having the nozzle extruding issues and errors. Can you share where I can buy that upgraded nozzle? Appriceate it!
Ask creality, they should send you the new extruder and hotend for free. Just provide them some pictures. The bundle was with the camera and all that
@@NoizieWorks thank you for responding so quickly! Question I'm new so I'm not sure what I'm looking for to take pictures of. I'm having a nozzle error and it's not extruding. I've tried updating firmware and then downgraded the firmware because that caused other problems. Any help you can provide would be great! Thanks again.
@@donnasimoneau5255 take a picture of the error that should be enough 😉
Oh man that's super helpful! Thanks so much!@@NoizieWorks
@@donnasimoneau5255 no problem bud, any time!
The echo problem is solved by replacing the pulleys on the x and y motors
I have seen a few people doing it with little improvements
@@NoizieWorks In our Russian k1 community, we came to the conclusion that not all of the printer’s screws can be tightened well. Thus, by changing the pulleys, you can at the same time stretch the printer in a circle)) this will reduce the echo, and the results of the shapers will be much better
@@Boroda_films good to know!
Short answer is no, but the K1 Max is as long as you know how to root the firmware and install moonsail/fluidd
17:16 "I really don't care if you buy this printer"
17:37 "Let me know if you're going to buy it or not"
lol
With that i mean i have nothing to gain from it but still it's good to know
[* Z: "Zed" from the Greek letter Zet'a (unless you were raised watching Sesame Street, like most Americans! 😉).]
Great review; I've been looking for reviews where the reviewer was willing to be critical and yours is one of the best. I have been tempted by the Bambu offering and might have been willing to swallow the price but the closed software ecosystem and the fact that a significant part of the value comes from the cloud & phone app has put me off.
If down the line Bambu decide to copy DJI then there might be no further updates or support for their old models and if they decide to start charging for their cloud services then you're going to either pay or be Sorry, Out of Luck. Not good.
I don't get the "ZED" reference i'm sorry but we did have sesame street in Europe not that i remember watching it.
And thanks! That's the biggest compliment you could give, that's the reason i started doing reviews.
Got sick of the "not sponsord" reviews that get flooded in the first weeks, it's that or they lost touch with the consumer.
About Bambu, i'm afraid that when the market get's flooded with dirt cheap alternatives the sales are going to drop so much that they will have to look for other money like the "cloud".
Starting small by hiding new features behind a paywall and then a 2.99 or so subscription for cloud service and so on.
The writting is on the wall so it's a hell no for me and if i have to eat my words in 3 years that i'm full of sh*t then i'm happy to do so
Bought 2 K1's in the first batch, replaced the hot ends and extruders at my own cost as Creality still haven't sent the power boost kits to South Africa. I've been using Creality machines for close to 10 years and will never trust them again. The machines are still sub standard and have constant errors and print failures. I'm no Bambu Lab fanboy but the P1P I bought at the same time still has a 95% success print rate.
I fully understand the frustration!
"Fully paid for, just like you guys" You guys are getting paid? ;)
I wish! 🙈
Just got my hands on a K1...with the original extruder... refuse to extrude correctly every attempt for a whole day...
Now I'm getting an issue that the printer just reboots within minutes of the job, no clue in klippy log...
No wonder my friend gave it away to me😂
Nice friend you have lol! First of all check the psu if it's set to the correct voltage setting, it wouldn't be the first printer set at 220 if you have 110.
You can find the new extruder for cheap on ali 😉
@@NoizieWorks Thanks for the tips! He's used it so I think AC voltage should be correct. I need to fully disassemble it anyways. Did I mention the bed is within 3.5mm level? And I still find pieces of shattered glass in the frame, since the original glass door broke on him during shipping and he had to pay for shipping for a replacement. I feel he's got all the early adopter kinks and to quote him "it's yours, I don't want to deal with it anymore"😂
He's now running exclusively P1Ps so I can relate how he feels.
Hopefully I can get the Linux crashing thing solved soon or I might even need a new MB.
@@tinkeringpoko best of luck! You're in for it now 😆
@@NoizieWorks OMG it was on 230! No wonder the LED strip flickers like crazy when hotend wants power🤣
Thank you so much, I wouldn't have thought! I firstly checked 24VDC rail and it was 24, then I turned the hotend on it drooped to 19.3 ~ish, that's when I realized the AD\DC unit is doing something.
@tinkeringpoko no problem bud! I'll send you the bill 😉 JK
I see them now around 559 Euro on most sites and Creality.. Its hard to justify the price
Yup all sales ended
After years of owning Creality machines I’ve concluded that they are ALL garbage. Never again.
I think the K1 is different. After they got initial issues sorted out, it seems to be one of the best out there… I understand your sentiment though, my Ender 3 V3 SE has been annoying the living poopoo out of me.
what do you suggest?
Qidi Q1 pro is cheaper and better in all aspects
Thanks a lot! @@NoizieWorks
I bought the K1 Max to test ... absolute GARBAGE!!!!!! I have 9 other printers I have recently added to my fleet and they smash the Creality K1 MAX out of the park for print quality, some are less in price, some are custom, some are bed slingers even .... Honestly for me this is a nice looking printer, very pretty, in fact one of the best looking designs I've seen yet but its all show an definitely NO GO! mine is going back, the VFA's are OUT OF THIS WORLD, to the point of every print goes in the bin! .... sorry but I've been in the 3D printing world since 2014 with a plethora of experience so I can honestly say be careful if you buy one of these.....its a gamble ... some seem ok and maybe passable ... the rest are just SH*T
Yeah, unless you get it dirt cheap or have a good ish sample
one thing that was giving me really bad VFA was choosing the standard pla in creality print. The second i chose the hyper one even though its not hyper filament all the artifacts pretty much disappeared, though i was comparing it to the sample prints they provide on the usb, which were coming out good but everything i sliced looked like ass.
So if the test prints aren't up to your standards then i"m not sure what can be done. I just saw that the test prints were coming out good and so i read through the gcode and copied the settings and rooted to solve the dumb input shaping issue
Speed bump? Useless, looks awful. My lid is lifted 20mm just because i added hinges to it, ptfe is outside of drag chain and everything is working well without scratching the top 🤷🏻♂️
Thanks for your opinion
That is how creality works.. put out unfinished printers, wait for community to fix it, send out the stolen IP on new versions.. nothing for the early adopters. Why I will never buy from again.
And also don't forget KEEP THE BROKEN ONES ON THE STORE.
@@cwill6491is there a way to tell? Like does the newer versions have a different model number like on the box?
lol, as opposed to Bambu Labs who only lets you print via their cloud so that they can steal your IP that way 😂 They are Chinese companies. China doesn’t have IP theft laws. As far as they are concerned, once something is in the public domain, it’s fair game! If you are going to buy products from Chinese companies, you are going to have to live with it.
Aye better than elegoo
Lesson here…don’t be an early adopter.
100%
The K1 is fucking garbage. Plain and simple. Had to fix it and replace the hot end 4 times in 3 months. Now I can’t fix it anymore because I can’t figure out the problem. Fuck Creality.
I can't say i disagree on this statement 😅 wait for the K2 it will be beter. They pinky swear.
It's shit LIDAR is fake I sent mine back in the first 4 hours of owning it ITS SHIT!
Well you clearly think it's the best thing ever 😉 to bad it didn't work out for you!