Thank you for taking the time to make this review. I have been considering purchasing one but I think I’ll wait, at least until Creality have fixed the various issues you’ve mentioned. They’re enough to put me off buying for now.
5:21 thanks for including tpu.. idk why none of the reviews I’ve seen so far don’t test tpu I print with tpu a lot I’m looking to get the best printer for tpu
I use Cura slicer only. I understand that the slicer for this K1 Max is based on Cura. My question is, are all the settings that I now have in Cura also accessible on the version for this printer? If I were to create a profile on the K1 slicer version and save that profile, would normal Cura be able to import it and it would work?
Yeah, maybe visually. He still barely knows what he’s talking about. Clearly still learning while also having a CZcams channel. The ego on some people.
Holy Crap you did some REAL Good testing everybody else I saw only did benchys and reg prints and DID Not test the camera and Ai failed print detection..BRAvo
@@user-rx8qq8sk9ydv1ce5ibI have the k1 max and it prints fast And I recommend it it also has a camera in it but if you want multicolor then buy the bambu lab printer
@@user-rx8qq8sk9ydv1ce5ibI have both printers and would personally say the K1 max if you want size and p1s if you want simple to operate and want the AMS system.
Mine came in with a smashed door, creality got one on the way fast. I only have a couple complaints after printing about 100 hrs. It suffers from bowden jump, The fans are loud loud, and the overhead glass needed to be a bit taller to keep the cable chain from hitting. Other than my filament issue mine has put out some prints. Its nice to have the extra room to do petg without having to cover my cr10s.
Did you calibrate the filament or just run the tests without calibration. From one color or brand calibration results differ. This is mostly user error if you dont calibrate your materials.
as a side note regarding the AI issues...specifically print failure.... i really believe its due to the poor lighting, its doing the ai detection via camera, and honestly...due to the lack of lighting half of the build volume is uselessly dark
How could this problem be fixed? Could additional lighting be installed fairly easily? Thank you. I'm still pretty new to this and this printer is on the way. I had the K1 and it malfunctioned an hour into a print and forced filament into every nook and cranny around inside of the print head area. I returned it and ordered the max.
Really, who designs a enclosed printer but then has a big square hole in the bottom right to allow for the touch screen? They been better off having either the screen as a separate unit plugged in to a port so the screen can be put aside and the door then be fully sealed no hole there, Or have the screen up on the top right of the outside frame on a bracket with the plug there to plug it into. so it is clear of the door area. I seen a few reviews of the K1 and the K1 Max. And I not impressed with the ongoing problems and bad design like the door hole for the screen! I most likely get the Bambu P1S instead of this K1 Max. I don't think Creality has really fixed the issues the 1st version had? Until I have saved up for the fast core xy enclosed Klipper type 3D printer I am after, I make d with the BTT Pad 7 I ordered and I be getting delivered Monday! I got the Elegoo Neptune 3 Max so I use the pad 7 to see how fast and detailed that one can do with the pad 7?
Hi dear Friend! Could you please check and share with us if is it true that K1 Max does the same "calibration actions" with the switched-off lidar (physically unplugged lidar)?
If you're looking for this over the K1 or P1S/X1C, you're looking for build size. So the real question is, how does it stack up to the QIDItech X Max 3, which is $100 more, is 10% larger and has a heated enclosure?
Qidi lol… Don’t waste your time. They are so loud (not just the fans). Take up more space than they need and there will be no real community for it. The community will turn the K1 into a beast with custom firmwares and fixes. I returned my x-plus.
QIDI print quality is similar to Bambu, X Max3 has a large volume and chamber heating, is able to print a wide range of materials, and the after-sales service is really top notch in my opinion.
I saw one yesterday. Apparently, it's not the "1st release" version (or the demo on that is sent to companies to test), but a new one with certain issues fixed. I was talking to the guy at the store, standing right beside the Max. What caught my attention is just how quiet it is! Then, I looked at the print job going on and notices just how clean it looked. I noticed too that the extruder was flying back and forth at high speed. Apparently, this job was being printed at 150mms. I know that the machine can handle 600mms, supposedly, but for me, 150 is just fine! When looking at it, not knowing anything about it, I asked the guy the price, including taxes (out the door). I expected him to say something like $2,500 to $3,000! But nope.. MUCH MUCH LESS! The only 2 things that concern me are that the danged filament spool is at the rear of the machine. I guess that's addressable as the tubing can swing around to the side and there is a spool holder available that can be screwed onto the side where there are 3 screws already. The other thing, more of a concern, is how hot the stepper motors are, that are at the read. The guy, knowing this machine so well, did say that yes they are hot, but with the pre-release (test/demo) version they were much hotter and this was one of the things that Creality was supposed to address. I'm not sure that they did, however. I would think that a better idea would be to add some sort of surround over them with cool air from outside the machine, being pumped into the surround and back out to the outside. This would avoid air being pumped into the enclosure, cooling the inside and sucking in dust. Other than those 2 things, I'm seriously considering buying one and selling this damned Wanhao Duplicator 9, MK2 400... even though I do have it working very well now after a bunch of mods.
So I know the printer is all about speed, but my concern is quality of print. Id be willing to accept the so-so quality I keep seeing on a fast print. But I would like to know if the quality of prints is much better if you were to print more slowly. I suppose I'm hoping for a best of both worlds answer here. I have a fairly heavily moded ender 5 plus that delivers beautiful quality at like 80 mm/sec. So, Is the k1 max good fast and very good slow? Or are the slow prints the kinda so-so quality we see in the examples? Hope my question made sense. Thanks in advance!
You won't get that quality unfortunately. I have a modified ender 3 v2 with klipper. It prints in much better quality. In fact, if you go slow with k1 you get worse quality.
Close, and after some firmware updates it will be. Then when the community really digs in it could pass Bambu by. They will release an AMS soon too. Bambu doesn’t have a large format yet and it will most likely cost more. I have an X1 and I want a K1 max.
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Hey Could you please suggest me a 3d printer. My budget is approx 500usd. It's my first time purchasing one. I have a few in mind: creality 5 S1, CB 200pro and Ender 6. Which one do you think is better one?
Wait till the 20th of this month Creality and Bambu have new printers coming right in that price range. The bambu P1P is a little over 500 right now and a great buy.
It seems in your review all the issues you pointed out had excuses attached to them. This may be an option for needing a bigger built plate only before Bambu Lab releases a bigger built plate unit most likely in 2024. Then Creality will rush to the Xerox copy machine to make yet another release of 3D printer in an all ready crowded Creality product line. In the prints you showed in my opinion they didn't look that impressive in quality.
I didn't hear any excuses, he made valid points about a couple quality control issues, and pointedly called out the sag and stringing issues on several prints, and he called out the AI failure to pick up on QC issues it was designed to detect. Maybe Bambu Labs can take you on a date or something, it sounds like you needed one.
Thinking for getting a "Prusa MK4 3D Printer kit" It seems to be a quality maching with good customer service. That's Important to me as this will be my 1st 3d printer. I don't want to get a 3d print have an issue.... Instructions not in english & no tech support.... Thoughts? Have you used this machine or have any feedback from others on this?
For a first printer, depending on how skilled you are with electronics in general, I recommend something else. That machine is 800 USD before all the mandatory and extras. You can get similar quality for less. Elegoo is releasing neptune 4 pro, which is what I will be getting, but there is also ankermake m5-whatever, if you want 2 machines that are easy to put together. E has great CS but a little slow, 1 business day. When I questioned about a resin I got they tracked down the lot, batch, and expire numbers for me, as an example. If you want a "plug and play" machine at the same costs the bambu p1p/s machines are worth it for PLA and are cheaper. Heck, even the X1C without AMS is roughly the same, so you can print ASA/PETG if you want to. I'm sure there are more machines, but these are some quick ones I found for better value. The E-N4P is easier to put together than my first machine, the 2NP from a few years ago, and I have limited hand movements and never built a machine before.
Just wait for the 20 to see what new Printer bambu and Creality will be releasing..PRUSA should be No ones 1st printer you buy something more affordable to start in the 200- 300 range. Even PRUSA have the same problems if they aren't set up properly ALL 3D printers eventually run into similar problems like bad first layers messing w the Z axis thing like that Even the so called Self leveling printers". your better off if you want to spend the Money with a Bambu as its pretty damn near perfect. PRUSA are very good but can sometimes take months of backorder if not years.
The imperfections you show on your test prints are not that good in my opinion. I have the K1 and I am impressed with the print results, and I don’t have any stringing at all.
I'm confused. A generally positive review even though you consistently identify problems in print quality. Banding, ghosting, and stringing are not "good prints".
I was looking at the Bambu, but since the print area is no bigger than my current printer, no point. Very puzzling that in this day and age that companies are still releasing products with such faults in all types of products.
good hardware trash software. as always, community will fix. chinese have no sense for quality and like to make things work SOMEHOW without pointing out issues. mostly not good enough, hacky and crappy solutions. lots of experience as a western dev working with chinese devs.
That typical of Creality, deploy a product that needs many upgrades instead of delivery a top notch product. It's as if they have it all planned out to make consumers buy the "New" product. Their moto is "Cash grab". Don't be fooled by this guy who sold his soul to the devil for a free printer.
Tell me Bamboo pays you a lot more than Creality without telling me they pay you a lot. So bias and you never mention Bamboo direct upload to CCP servers of everything you try to print.
Thank you for taking the time to make this review.
I have been considering purchasing one but I think I’ll wait, at least until Creality have fixed the various issues you’ve mentioned. They’re enough to put me off buying for now.
I want the quality of the x1c but the size of the k1 max😭
get a qidi xmax 3 then lol
I got the k1 max and I love it. Prints fast af! And perfect first layers every time.
Do you recommend it ? I want a big 3d printer and I want it to be able to print any material
@@elsunshine9976 name is I hate people so probably won't reply. How did you go with it? is your thoughts, I was thinking of p1s.
That 800% Cali Cat is insane hahaha.
Also this guy's neck is stronger than my whole body.
5:21 thanks for including tpu.. idk why none of the reviews I’ve seen so far don’t test tpu
I print with tpu a lot
I’m looking to get the best printer for tpu
I use Cura slicer only.
I understand that the slicer for this K1 Max is based on Cura.
My question is, are all the settings that I now have in Cura also accessible on the version for this printer?
If I were to create a profile on the K1 slicer version and save that profile, would normal Cura be able to import it and it would work?
Your channel has just gotten better and better. Thank you.
Yeah, maybe visually. He still barely knows what he’s talking about. Clearly still learning while also having a CZcams channel.
The ego on some people.
Hello, since I want my first printer, if I don’t need the speed and the volume I should choose the X1c? Thanks
Holy Crap you did some REAL Good testing everybody else I saw only did benchys and reg prints and DID Not test the camera and Ai failed print detection..BRAvo
I just got the K1 Max for $650! 😁
Website? I’m currently shopping for a k1 max!
Are you serious. I did some searching and price around 1k2 dollars.
Guys. K1 max or p1s? Any thoughts
@@user-rx8qq8sk9ydv1ce5ibI have the k1 max and it prints fast
And I recommend it it also has a camera in it but if you want multicolor then buy the bambu lab printer
@@user-rx8qq8sk9ydv1ce5ibI have both printers and would personally say the K1 max if you want size and p1s if you want simple to operate and want the AMS system.
Does it not say in the instruction that for PLA the top should be left off?
Mine came in with a smashed door, creality got one on the way fast. I only have a couple complaints after printing about 100 hrs. It suffers from bowden jump, The fans are loud loud, and the overhead glass needed to be a bit taller to keep the cable chain from hitting. Other than my filament issue mine has put out some prints. Its nice to have the extra room to do petg without having to cover my cr10s.
i Was wondering if adding some Weatherseal Foam would help lift it that just a bit higher?
@@AlbertoMartinez765 I just removed it im planning on feeding the filament straight down to see if extruder issues are better and less smacking noise
What hex wall panels are you using there that have there with an upper shelf. Those are awesome.
what table do you have your printers on?
Did you calibrate the filament or just run the tests without calibration.
From one color or brand calibration results differ. This is mostly user error if you dont calibrate your materials.
as a side note regarding the AI issues...specifically print failure.... i really believe its due to the poor lighting, its doing the ai detection via camera, and honestly...due to the lack of lighting half of the build volume is uselessly dark
How could this problem be fixed? Could additional lighting be installed fairly easily?
Thank you. I'm still pretty new to this and this printer is on the way. I had the K1 and it malfunctioned an hour into a print and forced filament into every nook and cranny around inside of the print head area. I returned it and ordered the max.
Will it print carbon fiber nylon ?
Really, who designs a enclosed printer but then has a big square hole in the bottom right to allow for the touch screen?
They been better off having either the screen as a separate unit plugged in to a port so the screen can be put aside and the door then be fully sealed no hole there,
Or have the screen up on the top right of the outside frame on a bracket with the plug there to plug it into. so it is clear of the door area.
I seen a few reviews of the K1 and the K1 Max. And I not impressed with the ongoing problems and bad design like the door hole for the screen!
I most likely get the Bambu P1S instead of this K1 Max. I don't think Creality has really fixed the issues the 1st version had?
Until I have saved up for the fast core xy enclosed Klipper type 3D printer I am after, I make d with the BTT Pad 7 I ordered and I be getting delivered Monday!
I got the Elegoo Neptune 3 Max so I use the pad 7 to see how fast and detailed that one can do with the pad 7?
They've been releasing a lot of firmware releases...... did you check that before testing?
Hi dear Friend! Could you please check and share with us if is it true that K1 Max does the same "calibration actions" with the switched-off lidar (physically unplugged lidar)?
It does. Lidar is a lie on that thing. No matter what you do it calibrates the same pressure advance its a garbage scam
If you're looking for this over the K1 or P1S/X1C, you're looking for build size. So the real question is, how does it stack up to the QIDItech X Max 3, which is $100 more, is 10% larger and has a heated enclosure?
Qidi lol…
Don’t waste your time. They are so loud (not just the fans). Take up more space than they need and there will be no real community for it. The community will turn the K1 into a beast with custom firmwares and fixes. I returned my x-plus.
QIDI print quality is similar to Bambu, X Max3 has a large volume and chamber heating, is able to print a wide range of materials, and the after-sales service is really top notch in my opinion.
Qidi is wayyyy better
I love my X-max 3, rock solid machine
Two completely crap xmax3s. Both had major faults. Returned and will never give them another try.
I saw one yesterday. Apparently, it's not the "1st release" version (or the demo on that is sent to companies to test), but a new one with certain issues fixed.
I was talking to the guy at the store, standing right beside the Max. What caught my attention is just how quiet it is!
Then, I looked at the print job going on and notices just how clean it looked.
I noticed too that the extruder was flying back and forth at high speed. Apparently, this job was being printed at 150mms. I know that the machine can handle 600mms, supposedly, but for me, 150 is just fine!
When looking at it, not knowing anything about it, I asked the guy the price, including taxes (out the door). I expected him to say something like $2,500 to $3,000! But nope.. MUCH MUCH LESS!
The only 2 things that concern me are that the danged filament spool is at the rear of the machine. I guess that's addressable as the tubing can swing around to the side and there is a spool holder available that can be screwed onto the side where there are 3 screws already.
The other thing, more of a concern, is how hot the stepper motors are, that are at the read.
The guy, knowing this machine so well, did say that yes they are hot, but with the pre-release (test/demo) version they were much hotter and this was one of the things that Creality was supposed to address. I'm not sure that they did, however. I would think that a better idea would be to add some sort of surround over them with cool air from outside the machine, being pumped into the surround and back out to the outside. This would avoid air being pumped into the enclosure, cooling the inside and sucking in dust.
Other than those 2 things, I'm seriously considering buying one and selling this damned Wanhao Duplicator 9, MK2 400... even though I do have it working very well now after a bunch of mods.
So I know the printer is all about speed, but my concern is quality of print. Id be willing to accept the so-so quality I keep seeing on a fast print. But I would like to know if the quality of prints is much better if you were to print more slowly. I suppose I'm hoping for a best of both worlds answer here. I have a fairly heavily moded ender 5 plus that delivers beautiful quality at like 80 mm/sec. So, Is the k1 max good fast and very good slow? Or are the slow prints the kinda so-so quality we see in the examples? Hope my question made sense. Thanks in advance!
You won't get that quality unfortunately. I have a modified ender 3 v2 with klipper. It prints in much better quality. In fact, if you go slow with k1 you get worse quality.
do you have a k1? Where did you see that if printed slower, it results in worse quality?@@serhatozkara3281
Was waiting for the improved K1 / K1 max reviews.. But it seems like they still dont match the quality of the competition.. (bambu lab)
Close, and after some firmware updates it will be. Then when the community really digs in it could pass Bambu by. They will release an AMS soon too.
Bambu doesn’t have a large format yet and it will most likely cost more.
I have an X1 and I want a K1 max.
Also got an X1; but waiting for Bambu's answer to an Xl printer.. or if the K1 max improves allot that's an option.@@dangerous8333
true on overall quality but my main prints are cosplay pieces and having the 300mm^3 is a huge upgrade
Already got some more trust in the printers since they just made it truly "open source" .. that shows Creality is serious.@@laughintrollface
Bambu is also 1.5x the price
Thx
Love your T-shirt! Where can I get one?
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How about the Comgrow T500, it looks like a well built beast.
Is thid guy related to "wide neck man"?
And how are going to judge the loudness of the printer with the glass door open?
Hey
Could you please suggest me a 3d printer. My budget is approx 500usd.
It's my first time purchasing one.
I have a few in mind: creality 5 S1, CB 200pro and Ender 6.
Which one do you think is better one?
Wait till the 20th of this month Creality and Bambu have new printers coming right in that price range. The bambu P1P is a little over 500 right now and a great buy.
It seems in your review all the issues you pointed out had excuses attached to them. This may be an option for needing a bigger built plate only before Bambu Lab releases a bigger built plate unit most likely in 2024. Then Creality will rush to the Xerox copy machine to make yet another release of 3D printer in an all ready crowded Creality product line. In the prints you showed in my opinion they didn't look that impressive in quality.
I didn't hear any excuses, he made valid points about a couple quality control issues, and pointedly called out the sag and stringing issues on several prints, and he called out the AI failure to pick up on QC issues it was designed to detect. Maybe Bambu Labs can take you on a date or something, it sounds like you needed one.
Thinking for getting a "Prusa MK4 3D Printer kit" It seems to be a quality maching with good customer service. That's Important to me as this will be my 1st 3d printer. I don't want to get a 3d print have an issue.... Instructions not in english & no tech support.... Thoughts? Have you used this machine or have any feedback from others on this?
For a first printer, depending on how skilled you are with electronics in general, I recommend something else. That machine is 800 USD before all the mandatory and extras. You can get similar quality for less. Elegoo is releasing neptune 4 pro, which is what I will be getting, but there is also ankermake m5-whatever, if you want 2 machines that are easy to put together. E has great CS but a little slow, 1 business day. When I questioned about a resin I got they tracked down the lot, batch, and expire numbers for me, as an example.
If you want a "plug and play" machine at the same costs the bambu p1p/s machines are worth it for PLA and are cheaper. Heck, even the X1C without AMS is roughly the same, so you can print ASA/PETG if you want to.
I'm sure there are more machines, but these are some quick ones I found for better value. The E-N4P is easier to put together than my first machine, the 2NP from a few years ago, and I have limited hand movements and never built a machine before.
Just wait for the 20 to see what new Printer bambu and Creality will be releasing..PRUSA should be No ones 1st printer you buy something more affordable to start in the 200- 300 range. Even PRUSA have the same problems if they aren't set up properly ALL 3D printers eventually run into similar problems like bad first layers messing w the Z axis thing like that Even the so called Self leveling printers". your better off if you want to spend the Money with a Bambu as its pretty damn near perfect. PRUSA are very good but can sometimes take months of backorder if not years.
Exactly, PRUSA is Great but they aren't Perfect and for the Money and Wait time the bambu series is the way to go IMO@@RoseKindred
Thank You For the Advice... About 6month away from making the leap so I doing my research Now! I Appreciate your reply.@@AlbertoMartinez765
Since when did they start putting "HARDENED STEEL NOZZLE"s on these ? Mine came one and a half weeks ago with a BRASS nozzle.
That’s what it says on the creality website lol
@@marcosaguilar8504 My mistake, it does have a hardened steel insert in the brass nozzle.
My mistake, it does have a hardened steel insert in the brass nozzle.
How about the Flyingbear Revision 2
So I should buy the Bambo.... I'm looking to upgrade one time from an Anet-a8. 😂
Maybe try printing at lower speeds for a real comparison.
That’s a very positive sounding review of a bunch of prints that all looked pretty terrible.
The imperfections you show on your test prints are not that good in my opinion. I have the K1 and I am impressed with the print results, and I don’t have any stringing at all.
Good review, but a little plea… Try not to bounce your head around all the time. :D Almost got seasick haha. :) Thanks for a nice video.
I'm confused. A generally positive review even though you consistently identify problems in print quality. Banding, ghosting, and stringing are not "good prints".
how do you handle the fumes?
I was looking at the Bambu, but since the print area is no bigger than my current printer, no point. Very puzzling that in this day and age that companies are still releasing products with such faults in all types of products.
What fault? The whole comments felt extremely puzzling, I can't figure what he's trying to say
Just picked up an open box from B&H for $560…🤞
That's awesome! I bet you'll get a lot of good use out of it, and what a bargain!
DC Heated bed?
No, K1 Max has a 220V bed heater, unlike the regular K1.
@stas_robotmaker Yeah though so. Said different in the video
220V AC mains bed heater
You pay $900 for this printer and they run ads on their app??
Disappointing. I think my Ender Neo produces better prints than what's shown here. I really need a faster, larger printer, but this doesn't look good
good hardware trash software. as always, community will fix. chinese have no sense for quality and like to make things work SOMEHOW without pointing out issues. mostly not good enough, hacky and crappy solutions. lots of experience as a western dev working with chinese devs.
WARNING!!! Creality is trash they send crap broken printers and then give you weeks of run around about getting refund.
OMG pls blink more
Noob
That typical of Creality, deploy a product that needs many upgrades instead of delivery a top notch product. It's as if they have it all planned out to make consumers buy the "New" product. Their moto is "Cash grab". Don't be fooled by this guy who sold his soul to the devil for a free printer.
Uhm did we watch different videos? What upgrades does it need?
Tell me Bamboo pays you a lot more than Creality without telling me they pay you a lot. So bias and you never mention Bamboo direct upload to CCP servers of everything you try to print.
Print quality is junk