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MILAN LUCIC REVEALS WHY PLAYERS LEAVE THE FLAMES: CALGARY THE LEAST DESIRABLE CITY To Play In? (NHL)
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Let's talk about Milan Lucic's recent comments on why players may not want to stay with the Calgary Flames, as well as the idea of whether or not the team is undesirable to play in, based off a few internet graphics.
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This video is taking place after the 2023 NHL Entry Draft, and after the 2023 Stanley Cup Playoffs.
The 2023 NHL Draft 1st Round went as follows:
1st) Chicago Blackhawks, Connor Bedard
2nd) Anaheim Ducks, Leo Carlsson
3rd) Columbus Blue Jackets, Adam Fantilli
4th) San Jose Sharks, Will Smith
5th) Montreal Canadiens, David Reinbacher
6th) Arizona Coyotes, Dmitri Simashev
7th) Philadelphia Flyers, Matvei Michkov
8th) Washington Capitals, Ryan Leonard
9th) Detroit Red Wings, Nate Danielson
10th) St. Louis Blues, Dalibor Dvorsky
11th) Vancouver Canucks, Tom Willander
12th) Arizona Coyotes (from Ottawa Senators), Daniil But
13th) Buffalo Sabres, Zach Benson
14th) Pittsburgh Penguins, Brayden Yager
15th) Nashville Predators, Matthew Wood
16th) Calgary Flames, Samuel Honzek
17th) Detroit Red Wings (from New York Islanders via Vancouver Canucks), Axel Sandin Pellikka
18th) Winnipeg Jets, Colby Barlow
19th) Chicago Blackhawks (from Tampa Bay Lightning), Oliver Moore
20th) Seattle Kraken, Eduard Sale
21st) Minnesota Wild, Charlie Stramel
22nd) Philadelphia Flyers (from Los Angeles Kings via Columbus Blue Jackets), Oliver Bonk
23rd) New York Rangers, Gabe Perreault
24th) Nashville Predators (from Edmonton Oilers), Tanner Molendyk
25th) St. Louis Blues (from Toronto Maple Leafs), Otto Stenberg
26th) San Jose Sharks (from New Jersey Devils), Quentin Musty
27th) Colorado Avalanche, Calum Ritchie
28th) Toronto Maple Leafs (from Boston Bruins via Washington Capitals), Easton Cowan
29th) St. Louis Blues (from Dallas Stars via New York Rangers), Theo Lindstein
30th) Carolina Hurricanes, Bradley Nadeau
31st) Colorado Avalanche (from Florida Panthers via Montreal Canadiens), Mikhail Gulyayev
32nd) Vegas Golden Knights, David Edstrom
This video is also taking place after 2023 NHL Season, and after the 2023 Stanley Cup Playoffs, where the Vegas Golden Knights defeated the Florida Panthers in the Finals.
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From a fan perspective, the biggest problem with the NHL is ownership. Lots of bad owners. Cheap, incompetent owners. Corporate owners. The very worst are the absentee owners who only bought the team for status & to watch the franchise value increase (see NYI). If Flames ownership doesn't do what's necessary to change the both the internal culture of the team and perceptions of the franchise around the league, it will never happen.
saint louis blues are just an investment. the business model is to always make playoffs and profit. the problem is mediocrity , never having franchise players and long long long long droughts between championships .. mediocrity .. probably not the worst owners but at the end of the day the blues are just a profit machine for s group of millionaires / billionaires
Lucic waived his nmc to go to calagry from Edmonton. Edmonton has all his listed reasons of why the city sucks and its only a few hours away. Its something to do with management or he just wants to go to a playoff team. Probably the later
Winning solves everything :)
Playoffs, in Calgary? BAHAHA!!
@@justthefacts6567 the year before we won the division. Idk why making the playoffs would be funny lol. We lost 17 overtime games cause mediocre goaltending. Brining in wolf will fix that
Flames passed on him cause they're going younger. They should be a playoff team with better goaltending this year
I don't think the nitpicks they have with the city matter much to the players. They will go to where they think they can win, and Calgary has been stuck a perpetual state of mediocrity since their 2004 Finals run. If Conroy builds a contender, the free agents will come.
Then you don't know what is really going on. There were some serious concerns of how draconian the city was to their citizens and these players wanted out NOW.
I've watched lots of episodes of the Locked on Flames and Locked On Winnipeg Jets' podcasts, but also plenty of videos narrated and produced by the Peg City Hockey CZcams man. Neither the Jets nor Flames have had loads of playoff success recently even with, arguably, the Canucks, Flyers, blue Jackets, Hawks, Yotes, Sharks, Caps, Pens, Preds, Sens Ducks, Wild, Kings, Wings and Sabres each having, by the end of last season, longer playoff series win droughts than the Jets or Flames.
So when did each Canadian NHL team last win playoff series in consecutive seasons? The Jets have yet to do so even with playoff appearances 5 of the last 6 seasons while the:
- Oilers are the most recent such teams to win playoff series during consecutive seasons (2 wins 2 seasons ago, 1 win in April)
- Canucks last strung together such a streak from the 2008-09 to 2010-11 season
- Flames, from the 1987-88 to 1988-89 season
- Leafs, from the 1998-99 to 2001-02 season
- Sens, from the 2005-06 to 2006-07 season
- Habs, from the 2019-20 to 2020-21 season
Thus, in terms of most-recent to least-recent pairing (or better) of seasons with 1 or more playoff series wins, the:
- Oilers come 1st
- Habs, 2nd
- Canucks, 3rd
- Sens, 4th
- Leafs, 5th
- Flames, 6th
- Jets, due to, unlike the Flames, having never won playoff series in consecutive seasons, come 7th by default
During the cap era, quite a few teams have had such lengthy droughts that I doubt attracting free agents was easy during those seasons. The Oilers, at 10 straight seasons, have the longest-ever drought of playoff appearances among Canadian teams although at 7 (from the 2005-06 to 2011-12 season) is up there, too. On the Oilers' so-called decade of darkness, the England-based Odd Man Rush CZcams man posted in December 2019 a video titled "Whatever happened to...Nail Yakupov?," with the winger having come nowhere close to having made a positive impact on the Oilers' lack of point production even with said winger having been drafted 1st overall in his draft year.
I agree with you, but the fact is , certain cities are always going to be less desirable to young millionaires.
It could be argued that Edmonton is a worse city to live in than Calgary, and if given the option most people will choose Vancouver I'd imagine. Especially if money is no object.
I think the appeal a winning team and a game plan will always matter to the best of the best, but if there is a tie-breaker....teams on the Canadian prairies? There are certain downsides.
And honestly? it's not always the tax rate. Combining federal and provincial/state income tax level?
Virtually the same in New York and California as Alberta at the tax bracket NHL players make.
I don't know, I suppose depending on the life you want.....might Living in Los Angeles or....well....any where but Winnipeg, bight be more appealing.
Tofolli only asked for a trade because they didn't seem interested in talking to hm about a extension.he wanted to stay. Backlund wants to stay but wants to make sure they wil be competitive before signing his last contact. Lindholm wants to stay and wol if the money is right. Flames passes on lucic and lewis because they qant to go youmger. Lucic and tofolli were sutter gus too and caused a devide in the locker room. Kadri said the team felt it was the right choice to trrade tofolli. The player we got for him will be better then him when given the ice time.
😂 The level of "cope" this comment has is next level. Way to stay positive man. 😂
@@420camk not really man. People just believe stupid rumor head lines
Oh yea definitely. A middle six PKer will be better than a top six scorer. In what world could you possibly believe that.
Lucic stole 6 million dollars per year, no team wanted him for 6 mill cap hit and him being washed up 7 years ago. He looked like a hunchback sloth on the ice.
cry snowflake. lmfao
He wasn't bad mouthing that 4th rate city, he was just saying why he has heard players don't want to be there. That's the reality of it. He said he liked playing there, but others don't. Don't shoot the messenger who is speaking the truth.
to be fair he has always looked like a hunchback sloth, even 11 years ago
@@carletonrutherford1799 If he like playing there, why is he leaving ?
@@47tooter LOL! Because it's Calgary? If you had the choice between living in Calgary and living in Boston, where would you live?
I'm surprised the Vancouver Canucks didn't make the top 5! As a Canucks fan we are one of the worst run franchise's in the entire NHL!
I don’t know how credible that list is, but colour me shocked that Ottawa isn’t on there. I know that they’re a team that’s on the rise and all, but it’s actually a pretty nice place to live in all things considered. Guess I’m biased since I was born and raise there, but others who live/have lived there would probably feel the same way.
Tarasenko just signed there and he had a choice of places and picked Ottawa.
ottawa needs the arena in the city , then i can see the sens market boom
There may not be a baseball or basketball team to go see, but there are far more things to do in Calgary than just watch hockey. And it's not even having to find hidden gems, there are lots of things in or around Calgary to do that any native Calgarian would know.
Calgary is a ghost town... it feels like a small town more than a big city
yep , drink
wait...So Edmonton is farther north and Winnipeg is nice and warm I guess
Yeah, like Minnesota.
omg Columbus isn't even on it. I'm happy as a CBJ fan!
I duno it kinda depends on what you value. I love calgary because its a great olace to raise family, the air quality seems to be way better than edmonton Vancouver or toronto, im oretty sure calgary has the most sunny days in all of north america so i dont know why people complain about cold just put on a jacket lol. The arena is definitely the worst part though
And we probably have the classiest people in north america in respect to wealth of the citizens
I suppose if you like hiking it's a great place
its because they know theyll never get past the oilers in the McDavid era
You have zero idea of the flames situation and why some of the personnel left (i.e. Mitch Love and Phillips). Your video made me laugh 😂
My top ten list = Calgary, Edmonton, Winnipeg, Buffalo, Columbus, Arizona, Minnesota, Ottawa, Montreal, Detroit.
Lately Lego have been rocking his L flames logo looks like this hatred grows lol remember who just left Ottawa the debrincat
My top ten:
1. TOR
2. ANA
3. SJ
4. SEA
5. LA
6. NYR
7. CHI
8. NJ
9. COL
10. DET
I hear that Lucic is recruiting Lindholm, who wants out, to Boston. Also that Hanifin is willing to join
They are getting a NEW RINK, its a good city, and the BEST PLAYER on ANY NHL TEAM is always the GENERAL MANAGER!!! He assembles the team & is the main reason a team wins the CUP or gets to the CUP FINAL. Players can always book their flights to Hawaii on their off days -- if that floats their boat...... The battle of Alberta will improve both clubs & bring the CUP back to Alberta--- maybe even to both citys........ crazy stuff CAN HAPPEN!!
Eventually, but that is years away, too far out for mid career players who want to play in an NHL calibre arena. Calgary should have had this sorted out years ago, they are paying the price now. Players will go back once the facility is updated.
As a native Calgarian (of many , many years) I like my city , and I’m proud of the fact that it routinely ranks in the top 10 cities in the world to live in. However , I also understand there are some things that aren’t attractive to people (like the cold , high taxes , and less “culture” ... which can be said about most Canadian cities compared to the US). But Canada is hockey’s birthplace. It would be nice if these self proclaimed “toughest athletes on the planet” , making millions of dollars off the sport we created , would be more respectful to the country of the sports origin , and stop whining about the cold , travel , lack of extracurricular activities and higher taxes. Most are getting paid a ton , they can afford slightly higher taxes. And there’ll be plenty of time to take their millions and go play in the sun after their careers are over. I’m tired of hearing about it , and tired of listening to crybabies who have been given too much power through the CBA to pick and choose where they play. It’s a privilege to play in the NHL. They get paid a ton. In order to give all teams a chance to be competitive , teams and owners should be given back a few more rights and power , because the reality is , players are a commodity. They should accept that if they’re going to also accept the millions of dollars being put in their pockets.
Can say a lot of the same things about Edmonton, yet there is no mass exodus here.
yeah cuz theyre a contender with mcdavid and draisailt - if the top 2 players in nhl were not in edm, guaranteed same issue, if not worse, as in calgary
@@daingladstone2326 100% fact
The poor babies. Nothing to do. Need to change the power of players. You get traded to a team you go. No one gets a no trade clause.
Honestly, I see Winnipeg, Philadelphia and Phoenix as a dumpster fire. I think Philly is at least starting to put the fire out.
Sad for Flames' fans. As a Habs' fan, we have their #1 pick in 2025, so tank away! Mind you... how many NHL players can take time off for an MLB game? Maybe two weeks in the year?
As a lifelong Flames fans, yeah, they are a terrible destination. Main thing being the management is awful. They make one boneheaded short-sighted gamble after the other and it never pays off. The Flames are kind of a joke. Phaneuf. Bouwmeester. Camalleri. Iginla. Brouwer. Neal. Bennett. Gaudreau. Tkachuk. Kadri. Markstrom. One poorly handled contract after the other the team is a joke.
It's like monkeys in charge flinging poo at a wall. If you look league wise it's tough to find a franchise that makes bad decisions more regularly, would trade the current flames roster for pretty much anyone else in the league. Coyotes, Red Wings, Ottawa... all have way more optimism than the Flames.
The L flames logo is amazin. Who made it? If it was u lego then put it on a tshirt and sell the merch. Would sell in Edmonton 😂
Remember that Ndps in alberta would have shelved the nee arena permanently.
Alberta is a hole. Albertans are in denial about that, but the rest of the world, the ones who know it even exists, know it's a hole.
@@carletonrutherford1799 That's why for internal immigration in Canada, everyone is going there? Absolute clown.
Calgary has double the population of Boston.
Wow AZ at 3 not bad
Funny thing is Edmonton was too good for Lucic and he stood out like a sore thumb because he is only good for fighting. He was decent in Calgary because he only had to compete with a crap team. Just hope Boston plays Toronto a bunch next season so the two teams can beat on each other with their knuckle chucking tough guys.
What the Hell are you talking about ? There's no violence in hockey
The players can't bump each other without getting a penalty.
They got helmets and Visors, So it asinine fighting.
So many new rules every year to stop the physical play.
What knuckle chucking tough guys ? We might see 1 pitiful fight once a month. Bettman ruined the sport.
Calgary was a first place team 2 years ago with Lucic on the roster, before 2 star departures gutted them. He fit Sutter's mold better than he fit with the Oilers. The oilers thrive on chaos created with speed and skill, the flames on physicality and pressure.
Enough Buddy
I hope to someday know what the hell it is that you say at the end of videos
Trading for Lucic was a big mistake. What a waste of space. It’s unbelievable that Boston wanted him. Vancouver and Montreal doesn’t have an nba or mlb teams. Winnipeg is very cold and doesn’t have much.
ROFLMAO! Comparing Calgary to Montreal or Vancouver?!?!? Get the hell out of here. Calgary is a hick town. It's a 4th rate city. It's a sad Houston wannabee city.
I always thought you were an habs fan lol unsub.
Huh? Why are you all upset?
I wonder where habs are on that list.
Despite the cold and taxes, MTL will always be a draw, even when they're bad.
No big name free agents want to play in Montreal 54% taxes, annoying fans who boo you all the time and stalking your family. The media is annoying, they will ask you 100 dumb questions after each game.
@@cameronmccormick89 not what we told here… language barrier and taxes is what we told.
@@guychaperon1289yes, language barrier is the biggest one and they would prefer to have an English speaking person learn and speak in some French.
Worst places would be Arizona, Lose-a-peg, nobody wants to play for those teams.
Buffalo ain't much better dude
@@BM_2002 actually many former players and coaches live there, Scotty Bowman the winningest coach of all time coached many cities but lives in Buffalo. The areas around buffalo(suburbs) are great. It’s much better than lose-a-peg or Arizona
From a regular man’s point of view, Calgary is great. (I lived there for two years.) From a young millionaire’s point of view, it might seem undesirable. You can add radical-left politics and stand-in-line healthcare to the reasons why some free agents prefer not to sign in Canada.
Calgary is a mess rn
And it's a hole.
Typical Vancouverite comments Lego....cya