From Atheism to Buddhism to Paganism to Orthodoxy - Paul Kingsnorth

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  • In this episode, Paul Kingsnorth discusses his path from atheism through Buddhism and paganism into Orthodox Christianity.
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Komentáře • 221

  • @ProtectingVeil
    @ProtectingVeil  Před 3 měsíci +1

    📙 FREE eBOOK on the wisdom of modern Orthodox Christian elders:
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  • @Simonet1309
    @Simonet1309 Před 2 lety +187

    My journey as an Englishman has been. Occultist>hare krishna> evangelical> Holy Orthodoxy where the journey to the truth was ended, or fulfilled, and the journey through salvation and repentance began. Been Orthodox now for 24 years and thank God daily for it. ☦️☦️☦️

    • @ProtectingVeil
      @ProtectingVeil  Před 2 lety +21

      Glory to God...yes, every day is a new blessing...

    • @Pharesm
      @Pharesm Před 2 lety +2

      All the things people endlessly told you you are... But you are not an Englishman, none of those things. You are just man.

    • @Ugeen-Huge-Jeans
      @Ugeen-Huge-Jeans Před 5 měsíci

      Wouldn’t you say that „the journey to the truth was ended” on every step of the way? How do you know it is really ended now? And it is not merely another snapshot along the journey?

    • @Simonet1309
      @Simonet1309 Před 5 měsíci

      @@Ugeen-Huge-Jeans Good question but I suppose I can be sure of the truth of Orthodoxy through faith and that Christ fulfilled my ‘yearning’ for truth. The hunger is no longer in searching, but in following Christ within the Orthodox church. When you encounter God in truth all others fade away to nothing. ☦️

    • @Ugeen-Huge-Jeans
      @Ugeen-Huge-Jeans Před 5 měsíci

      @@Simonet1309 couldn’t a Buddhist say something similar? Or even a mormon?

  • @daughterofalmasih7013
    @daughterofalmasih7013 Před 2 lety +133

    The cross and the machine...one of the most beautiful, succinct and eloquent essays I have ever read....
    I was born a muslim, I had a vision of Christ...and became a christian, the only christianity I knew Protestantism , now five years later, I think the lord christ is calling me home...I am reading the church fathers, some of them I am literally told their names, i just hear the name in my spirit, I google only to find it is an orthodox saint....I am realising that the end is as the beginning, the faith of the first century may be the triumphant faith of the last century before the lords return...the Lord is hand, May the Holy Son of God have mercy on us sinners..

    • @kaybrown4010
      @kaybrown4010 Před 2 lety +4

      ❤️☦️

    • @carlahmed5737
      @carlahmed5737 Před 2 lety +5

      ya miit ahlan w sahlan ukhitna! And I agree, that was a beautiful essay. May Christ our Hope and God continue to lead you.

    • @Mark-yb1sp
      @Mark-yb1sp Před 2 lety +4

      Much blessings to you on your journey! 😀

    • @paladinhansen137
      @paladinhansen137 Před 2 lety +2

      I have videos out titled The Case for the Missing Ayat and How Old was Ishmael and many videos to come in Hebrew-Greek-Arabic and English to show ex muslims and Christians the Logos.

    • @andys3035
      @andys3035 Před 2 lety +2

      May our God Jesus Christ bless you

  • @Mason58654
    @Mason58654 Před 2 lety +50

    "One path leads home, a thousand into the wilderness." - C. S. Lewis

  • @TheFeralcatz
    @TheFeralcatz Před 2 lety +129

    I love that bit about feeling "hunted by Christ". I was like him, I didn't want to be a Christian, I didn't want the Bible to be true, and then when I realized that it was and that God was calling me, I decided to start cooperating.

    • @PETERJOHN101
      @PETERJOHN101 Před 2 lety +4

      I think inside, you were always drawn to the truth.

    • @ryrosflammare1172
      @ryrosflammare1172 Před 2 lety

      As one of our songs here, "sheltered me completely, on a holy trap of love"

    • @DarkArcticTV
      @DarkArcticTV Před 2 lety +2

      @@PETERJOHN101 the truth is atheism

    • @nmoriss
      @nmoriss Před 2 lety +2

      Didn’t someone of note once say “everybody is a Christian, they just don’t realize it yet“

    • @aedynkroeker3554
      @aedynkroeker3554 Před 2 lety +3

      @davy boy you are proving his point. He was where you are now but he saw the truth in what you mistakenly call a “primitive cult”. Christianity is anything but primitive.

  • @lanceburris7850
    @lanceburris7850 Před 2 lety +66

    I am a writer and a painter. I became Orthodox in the mid-1990s. I currently attend a Russian Orthodox monastery church in Calistoga, California. It is a joy to be in the presence of people of faith. Those who fail see the miraculous in ordinary things are willfully ignorant.

    • @behindenemylines3149
      @behindenemylines3149 Před 2 lety +5

      Shout Out to a fellow northern Californian. I haved attended Holy Cross Monastery in Castro Valley/Hayward. Should I also check out the Russian Monastery sometime??

    • @TheRealRealOK
      @TheRealRealOK Před 2 lety +2

      @davy boy Most Orthodox are educated. Faith has nothing to do with what you learn in school.

    • @gwenechotaylor96
      @gwenechotaylor96 Před rokem +2

      I envy you. Here in Ontario Canada where I live there is no Orthodox Church and many of those churches who are in my town are of the social justice type which is heresy. So disappointing. I would love to have a home for my faith and worship.

    • @olgak.1139
      @olgak.1139 Před rokem +1

      ​@@gwenechotaylor96Have you search for Orthodox channels that broadcast Orthodox Divine Liturgy on line since there's no orthodox church near you? My mom(here in Greece) can't go to the church anymore, but we watch a TV and online channel called Lychnos (Λύχνος) founded in the city of Apostle Andreas, Patras . Maybe there are orthodox Christian channels that broadcast from other Canadian cities like Toronto,or from the US. Just a thought.

  • @Hemilgaming
    @Hemilgaming Před 2 lety +22

    This seems almost unsettling close to my story :o). I was an Atheist - came to buddhism - then neopaganism - and then to Orthodox christianity. And I am actually attending a romanian orthodox church aswell...

  • @bramreeuwijk8269
    @bramreeuwijk8269 Před 2 lety +47

    Yes!! I'm so happy with this video. I also went from paganisme to Orthodoxy! It's still very difficult most of the time but I know that focusing on God is the best thing to do :)

    • @ProtectingVeil
      @ProtectingVeil  Před 2 lety +6

      Thanks to God...slowly, slowly!

    • @leifonthewind7232
      @leifonthewind7232 Před měsícem

      Im still in this process as well, attending an Orthodox Church now as a practicing Heathen. What a trip

  • @user-oy9fu9db8c
    @user-oy9fu9db8c Před 2 lety +11

    Wow, i can really identify with him. I too was a pagan for a long time, and that feeling of being "hunted by Christ" never really left me in all those years. I realized that paganism was just an excuse to my violent and agressive behaviour and when i finally gave Christ a chance, the "feeling" was so marvelous that i almost cried.

  • @phanourios1279
    @phanourios1279 Před 2 lety +13

    I'm English from an Irish background. Because I was raised in an Irish Catholic family, it was in a way sort of acceptable to people for cultural reasons so long as you were not devout.
    Despite the upbringing I drifted away from it as primarily disillusioned with the Novus Ordo Mass. I was interested in new age spiritualism for a while but that faded.
    I discovered Orthodoxy in Greece on a lads holiday in 2010 which started my journey. I have been Orthodox for a year now ☦

    • @paladinhansen137
      @paladinhansen137 Před 2 lety +2

      That is awesome to hear, I am considering Orthodoxy as well. Ive been studying for a while and went once and i loved it. It was fulfilling in the liturgy. The Logos is awesome to learn about in Greek. Especially the mathematics in the Bible.

    • @paladinhansen137
      @paladinhansen137 Před 2 lety +1

      That is awesome to hear, I am considering Orthodoxy as well. Ive been studying for a while and went once and i loved it. It was fulfilling in the liturgy. The Logos is awesome to learn about in Greek. Especially the mathematics in the Bible.

    • @phanourios1279
      @phanourios1279 Před 2 lety +3

      @@paladinhansen137 It was the best decision I ever made. Today is the feast day of St Phanorious, my Orthodox Saints name:)

  • @gigig2190
    @gigig2190 Před 2 lety +32

    It fills my heart with joy to hear his story...as a Romanian Christian Orthodox even though we are all brothers and sisters into Christ 🙏

    • @boicerdiegio1709
      @boicerdiegio1709 Před 2 lety +5

      Father Seraphim Aldea from the Mull Monastery in the Hebrides islands was. Father Seraphim Aldea brings Orthodoxy back to the Celtic Hebrides after 1000 years. The monastery is called Mull Monastery of All Celtic Saints. Father Seraphim also has a youtube channel. Search on Google: Fr Seraphim Aldea at Mull Monastery CZcams.

    • @eldermillennial8330
      @eldermillennial8330 Před 2 lety +3

      @@boicerdiegio1709
      There’s a lot of confusing allegations about Mull that incline me to wait until there’s been some investigations by his Archdiocese before I’d encourage watching him. Until then, I have no opinion other than caution, because as a former Trad Roman Catholic, I can attest to the relentlessness of the modernists to gain footholds in all bishopric lines throughout the world. To corrupt Rome, they just needed one to get to the top, than the “papal supremacy” heresy would do the rest for them.
      Orthodoxy is a much more difficult nut to crack, not least of which is becoming a Bishop in the first place. Our system keeps Wolves from donning Shepherd’s Clothing, but only so long as our Monasteries can maintain their independence and most crucially, traditionalist oversight. It is troubling in these times to have a new monastery composed entirely of young monks with no elders from other established monasteries joining them.
      I’m not alleging anything in particular myself, but this should not become the norm as we build more and more. We NEED pius Elders overseeing these new Monasteries. It is essential our checks and balances against Modernism and Postmodernism don’t break down.

    • @gigig2492
      @gigig2492 Před 2 lety

      How can you and I have the same screen name? Weird! I thought the screen names were individual.

  • @777Justin
    @777Justin Před 2 lety +36

    Chesterton made the observation about the “Anything BUT Christ” attitude found in western spiritual seekers in the beginning of the book: The Everlasting Man.

    • @metaorange302
      @metaorange302 Před 2 lety +1

      @davy boy brainwashed?! How darn you speak of the Eternal Sacrifice of our Creator that way! You regret it one or another! You are in my prayers to our Blessed Mother Mary that She purchase you from eternal damnation with the Most Precious Blood of Her Divine Son!

    • @kyledonahue9315
      @kyledonahue9315 Před 2 lety

      @davy boy Chesterton had more wit and wisdom in his pinky finger than you do in your entire body. Your adolescent and low-brow slurs against Christ and his church bear witness to this.

    • @TheRealRealOK
      @TheRealRealOK Před 2 lety +1

      @davy boy I wish you could see how ridiculous you are. Keep watching these videos, fren.

  • @Notacessasionist
    @Notacessasionist Před 2 lety +8

    Nothing compares to it, because it's the TRUTH

  • @paddyearly
    @paddyearly Před 2 lety +8

    Excellent interview🙏
    As a Catholic I believe he is on the right path🙏
    Jesus is the Saviour and our world is falling apart because He is being rejected by so many who are buying into agressive secularism which leads to utter despair😭
    Jesus offers the only hope because He promises us eternal salvation🙏
    Pray for huge conversions🙏

  • @behindenemylines3149
    @behindenemylines3149 Před 2 lety +13

    I hope his wife becomes Orthodox too. I have meant many wonderful Indian Orthodox Christians.

    • @elenihelenmelb
      @elenihelenmelb Před 2 lety +5

      Saint Thomas the Apostle +++
      Glory be to God+++

  • @kayedal-haddad9294
    @kayedal-haddad9294 Před 10 měsíci +3

    I am a recent convert from Roman Catholicism to Eastern Orthodoxy!

  • @evgeny9965
    @evgeny9965 Před 2 lety +8

    Such a long journey. A blessing death didn’t intervene before your revelation ….

  • @petervandolah5322
    @petervandolah5322 Před 2 lety +5

    Christianity is dangerous, because it is The Truth, and there is One Truth, as there is One Church ...
    It rebukes and challenges the world around us, while never failing to love it with the Love of Christ ...
    This is a very unsettling paradox ...
    It's like being invited personally by Christ Himself into a dark closet which He assures you is just exactly where you need to be ...
    But you have to say yes and take that first step, then another, then another ...
    The Light really does shine in the darkness ...
    ☦️☦️☦️

  • @Mark-yb1sp
    @Mark-yb1sp Před 2 lety +2

    Another excellent video! Thanks Herman . 😄👍🏻

  • @noelbordoy6944
    @noelbordoy6944 Před 2 lety +8

    Glory to God. I myself had been to different Christian denominations in the past, and was baptized this year on the feast of the Theophany. Where do I find the longer or complete testimony of Paul's journey to orthodoxy? God bless you Paul.

    • @ProtectingVeil
      @ProtectingVeil  Před 2 lety +2

      Glory to God, Amen! See link in description to his essay, "The Cross and the Machine"!

  • @whalingwithishmael7751
    @whalingwithishmael7751 Před 2 lety +2

    Great conversation

  • @griffithsharp
    @griffithsharp Před 2 lety +11

    similar story to me. the last thing i ever wanted to be was christian. still have all my books on sufism, vedanta, taoism and other philosophies but i don't read them much anymore.

    • @griffithsharp
      @griffithsharp Před 2 lety

      @davy boy no it isn't.

    • @griffithsharp
      @griffithsharp Před 2 lety

      @davy boy vegetarian/vegan?

    • @griffithsharp
      @griffithsharp Před 2 lety

      @davy boy I'm trying to understand your position and where you're coming from, as well as what you are taking issue with.

    • @griffithsharp
      @griffithsharp Před 2 lety +3

      ​@davy boy its unfortunate you had a bad experience, sucks to hear that.
      one of the eastern orthodox said something like "the throne of the mind is the heart".
      i grew up opposite, i was secular and was actually told and researched information disproving christianity from every angle then practiced almost every major religion outside of it. but as i got older, life had a way of chipping away my pride and humbling me and i found truth in the bible contrary to what i had been told. i would say if you wanted to look into this from maybe a different angle then eastern orthodox is a great place to look.

    • @griffithsharp
      @griffithsharp Před 2 lety +1

      @davy boy there are verses that detail this: how all things were made by christ and for christ and that "he gave himself for us", and that no love is greater than that someone lay down his life for his friends. all these verses are then counter balanced by christ saying that on the day of judgement many will say his name but he will say he never knew them. this hits all the most important aspects of living a sincere meaningful life: accountability, selflessness, mercy, discipline, humility, forgiveness, and love of God.
      so for it to be a primitive idea made by clever theologians seems to be more of a contradiction than being not in the realm of possible by an infinite personal God.

  • @georgovalinhs5651
    @georgovalinhs5651 Před 2 lety +4

    exellent content as always! thank you so much..God bless you

  • @kraz007
    @kraz007 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Cradle Orthodox born in a Communist country. Started as atheist, then Buddhism, and shamanism, and now rediscovering Orthodoxy, the Zen Buddhism of Christianity.

  • @alexalexides8947
    @alexalexides8947 Před rokem +3

    He's spot on there, we are inoculated against Christianity. We fight the very notion that we must submit to anything in our world, or rather, we want to submit to only the modern and things lacking in meaning. My path regarding modernity and the search for escape hatches from it led me to a similar place, honestly, and it's nice to hear this shared.

    • @radscorpion8
      @radscorpion8 Před 11 měsíci

      Its strange that a God that wants to be found so badly, and which has infinite power, and infinite love, seems to only be discoverable by a very narrow path through orthodox faith that people are increasingly leaving due to a lack of evidence. Isn't that just WILD :D

  • @williamsmith5049
    @williamsmith5049 Před rokem +3

    I grew up in sort of over the top charismatic word of faith movement churches in the 80's that I knew were insane and couldn't stand. I went full materialist/atheist for quite a long time sort of as a reaction. It was a path of little resistance based on my peers at that time. In the last 10 years exposure to my wife and some other things got me to start considering Occultism/Hermeticism/Gnosticism. Some part of me was yearning for something more substantial, that didn't feel like a conveyor belt of feel good philosophical epiphanies, I had already been considering myself a "Christian Mystic" before I came to some realizations. Occultism/Esotericism are "hidden" knowledge and I began to understand that the truth would not be something hidden. Hermeticism is really just sort of repackaged greek philosophy of a certain type that someone repackaged at some point in the past. Gnosticism is an unclear designation in many ways but I found out how horrible some of those beliefs really are, and I realized how hypocritical (for lack of a better word) I was to read Gnostic gospels while avoiding reading the Bible itself. I started to look for a church that I thought I would be able to stand and that wouldn't be endless shame, guilt, and fear. I discovered Orthodoxy and began to learn about it online, learned about prayer, and started reading the Bible. What a profound experience praying and reading the Bible was, with the right mind and heart for it! I have been attending a local Orthodox mission for a few weeks and starting Catechism this week.
    I would suggest anyone enquiring to go ahead and attend the liturgy as soon as possible.

    • @williamsmith5049
      @williamsmith5049 Před rokem +1

      I should clarify that I'm attending an inquirer/catechism class. My parish takes joining the Church very seriously and definitely does not believe in rushing things. So different than my protestant upbringing! Their goal was to get bodies in the door, getting them accepting Jesus, check them off the list, and then that was it.

  • @Ftlogames
    @Ftlogames Před 2 lety +5

    Great video, hope this interview went for longer.. if so would it be uploaded?

  • @martabloma6891
    @martabloma6891 Před 2 lety +2

    Absolutely love it

  • @costernocht
    @costernocht Před 2 lety +7

    Great interviewer. He sits back and lets the interviewee speak!

    • @ProtectingVeil
      @ProtectingVeil  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks for this...it's a balancing act I'm still learning(!)

  • @effem892
    @effem892 Před 2 lety +3

    Surprised at the readers that have walked away from Paul as if he's done a u-turn. I first read 'Confessions...' and looked up the various writers he refers to in those essays and straight away noticed most of them were Christian (e.g. Wendell Berry and Ivan Illich). Then the works that followed have been full of this spiritual longing that he can't put his finger on...then I watched that VPRO doc he did and the way he's talking at the end I said to myself "next stop Christianity, wonder how he'll deal with that".

  • @sacrecur7352
    @sacrecur7352 Před 2 lety +6

    16:30 min.
    "Becoming a Buddhist is fine....."
    That resonates with me.
    That was my experience too.
    I now live in the UK and am delighted with this channel, which I found yesterday.

    • @mikemills8568
      @mikemills8568 Před rokem +1

      Reincarnation belief means there is no morality no right or wrong,everything is meaningless in Buddhism belief

  • @michaelg1569
    @michaelg1569 Před 2 lety +4

    From The Cross and the Machine: "True freedom, it turns out, is to give up your will and follow God’s. To deny yourself. To let it come. I am terrible at this, but at least now I understand the path."
    Giving up your will is giving up your ego - it doesn't give up without a fight (for survival). Surrender.
    BTW, Is paganism the same or similar to pantheism?

  • @angelandres08
    @angelandres08 Před 2 lety +1

    Excellent work! God Bless your efforts to make known our Holy Church

  • @BarbaPamino
    @BarbaPamino Před 2 lety +6

    It's not baggage. It's defiance. The Spirit of the World has taken the West and it fears and hates the Truth. The Enemy will never take issue with one worshipping another created entity. But when you worship the Uncreated Most High the Enemy knows he's lost.

  •  Před 2 lety

    Awesome! Thanks for sharing!

    • @efrencruz9020
      @efrencruz9020 Před 2 lety +1

      you should watch acts 17 apologetics and pfander films and dcci ministries and Christian prince and cira international and shamounian and soco films on CZcams and watch all the channels on CZcams sergio Ruiz 😀😀😀😀

    •  Před 2 lety +1

      @@efrencruz9020 thanks for the advices, I already follow some of them 👌🏼and also about Orthodox Cristianity

    • @efrencruz9020
      @efrencruz9020 Před 2 lety +1

      @ nice sergio from now on you have a lot of work to do to spread all the channels in Facebook and Instagram and twitter and in the latino community and in Latin america countries but it is going to take years so take your time and be a messenger Sergio ruiz and keep spreading it forever brother 😀😀😀😀

    •  Před 2 lety

      @@efrencruz9020 you are right 💪🏼

    • @efrencruz9020
      @efrencruz9020 Před 2 lety +1

      @ nice Sergio keep spreading it forever brother save the latino community and Latin america countries but it is going to take years so take your time and be a messenger Sergio keep spreading it forever brother 😀😀😀😀

  • @Notacessasionist
    @Notacessasionist Před 2 lety +3

    1 Peter 2:7-8 KJV
    Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, The stone which the builders disallowed, The same is made the head of the corner, and A stone of stumbling, and a rock of OFFENCE, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

  • @thereluctantdragon7579
    @thereluctantdragon7579 Před 2 lety +16

    In fairness the Anglican church has little to do with Christianity in the current era.

    • @bandygamy5898
      @bandygamy5898 Před 2 lety

      Hyperbole

    • @eddykohlmann471
      @eddykohlmann471 Před 2 lety

      They only care about England really. I've found this xenophobia in Lutheran churches also. Like hate and indifference towards neighbouring countries that ironically have the same religion. It's all very nationalistic.

    • @metaorange302
      @metaorange302 Před 2 lety +2

      @@eddykohlmann471 Isn’t that just like the Eastern Schismatic (nationalistic) Churches too?!

    • @user-oy9fu9db8c
      @user-oy9fu9db8c Před 2 lety +2

      @@metaorange302 Well, yes. That's a reason why they're heretics. The Fathers always said that the seed of Christ are those that belong to His Church. You see, in the old testament Esau gave birth to a multitude of peoples but they were not God's children, because God's children are the ones that share the faith of Abraham and that IS faith in Christ.

  • @oviiulian6747
    @oviiulian6747 Před rokem +1

    God bless you

  • @CameraMystique
    @CameraMystique Před 2 lety

    Message to Paul Kingsnorth *and I sincerely hope* you will read this: "λόγος του Θεού" (logos tou Theou) in the Greek Bible means *the Reasoning of God.* Not the "word" of God, if we consider the use of the word in all texts that influenced the meaning of archaic Greek in that period. This also matches and justifies that "everything happens according to His Will. Think about Orthodoxy under this (more correct and more open) translation. Thanks.

  • @MyANNEHALEY
    @MyANNEHALEY Před 2 lety +8

    Great content! Great interview and SO true. When I lived in the UK, I saw what Mr. Kingsnorth said-anything but Christian. It was difficult.
    Secondly, why the filter Herman??? It’s distracting and reminds me of the attorney who was in court with the animal filter on! It’s hard to take you seriously. Funny tho!

    • @whalingwithishmael7751
      @whalingwithishmael7751 Před 2 lety +1

      I noticed that too. I thought it was somehow my computer

    • @MyANNEHALEY
      @MyANNEHALEY Před 2 lety

      @@whalingwithishmael7751 Lol! It’s a filter, I’m pretty certain! I kept laughing, hoping he knew! 😂🤣

    • @ProtectingVeil
      @ProtectingVeil  Před 2 lety +5

      Haha...well...I made a mistake in the recording and the filter was an attempt to cover it. Believe it or not, I think the trade-off was worth it...God willing I won't make the same error again(!)

    • @MyANNEHALEY
      @MyANNEHALEY Před 2 lety +2

      @@ProtectingVeil Lol!!!! Well, it was funny! But the attorney video kept coming to mind. As always, excellent content. God bless you for the work you do! -ah

  • @momofmoto
    @momofmoto Před rokem

    A great subscription you should add to your searches in Orthodoxy is "Father Spyridon" start with his video, There's only one church...Why Orthodoxy! A great start for anyone!

  • @laurameszaros9547
    @laurameszaros9547 Před 2 lety +21

    Strangely enough, it's still actually possible to be an atheist, a Buddhist and a pagan all at the same time. I guess Orthodoxy is the outlier though. Not really possible to combine Orthodoxy with any of the other three. That's a leap of faith one has to do unaccompanied, so to speak.

    • @spiderqueen601
      @spiderqueen601 Před 2 lety

      Pagans are polytheists so one cannot be both a pagan and atheist.

    • @laurameszaros9547
      @laurameszaros9547 Před 2 lety

      @@spiderqueen601 Not all pagans are polytheists by any means, although some are. I have met many pagans, and it is impossible to pigeonhole or homogenise what it is that all of them believe, because their beliefs are diverse. A minority of pagans are indeed atheistic - rest assured of that, I have met several who would describe themselves in just that way.

    • @markterra-thomas8979
      @markterra-thomas8979 Před 2 lety +2

      Not a leap of faith at all. At least not in the “blind faith” meaning. Faith is a decision made based on evidence learned.

    • @laurameszaros9547
      @laurameszaros9547 Před 2 lety +1

      @@markterra-thomas8979 If the evidence for God were truly convincing, no one would ever need faith - it would be surplus to requirements. It's precisely because the evidence is insufficient that faith is required, in order to fill the credibility gap.

    • @michaelg1569
      @michaelg1569 Před 2 lety

      @@laurameszaros9547 Faith without action is empty. The purpose of faith is to inspire one to embark on the path to God realization. There is a substance that will provide evidence for God, eliminating the need for faith. Google the god molecule.

  • @sacrecur7352
    @sacrecur7352 Před 2 lety +2

    🙏

  • @jovevski01
    @jovevski01 Před 2 lety +1

    Anyone know where i can find a copy of the lives of the saints. 🙏

    • @ProtectingVeil
      @ProtectingVeil  Před 2 lety +1

      Here's a good online option: www.oca.org/saints/lives And if you want a physical option: sebastianpress.org/the-synaxarion-the-lives-of-the-saints-of-the-orthodox-church-complete-set/

    • @jovevski01
      @jovevski01 Před 2 lety

      Thank you

  • @petervandolah5322
    @petervandolah5322 Před 2 lety +4

    ☦️☦️☦️ ... Excellent

  • @conexionneuronal8820
    @conexionneuronal8820 Před rokem +1

    I do think in many branches of buddhism there are a lot of divinities for sure and people do worship

    • @fiddlerontheroof4099
      @fiddlerontheroof4099 Před rokem

      Yes but not so much in Zen, and besides a lot of Western practitioners of Buddhism in general tend to disregard all the "religion" stuff within the various traditions, so that way they can pretend what they're doing isn't really a religion. 🤪

  • @Not-Impressed..1821
    @Not-Impressed..1821 Před rokem

    What's the next stop?

  • @INeedGod87
    @INeedGod87 Před 2 lety +3

    I've tried Charismatic American Christianity( Pentecostal) so many times and felt so repulsed. I've denied God and his Son so many times and made fun of people who believe. Is it possible for me to have forgiveness? I feel so drawn to this it just feels right for me is there any help for me?

    • @ProtectingVeil
      @ProtectingVeil  Před 2 lety +5

      God will always love you, brother! He is constantly seeking us and our repentance. Remember the parable of the Prodigal Son...return to the Father in humility and repentance and you will find forgiveness and grace!

    • @INeedGod87
      @INeedGod87 Před 2 lety

      Thank you.

    • @ktaadnbm7475
      @ktaadnbm7475 Před 2 lety +2

      You're just trying the wrong kind of Christianity. Look into Orthodoxy, the one true Church.

    • @eamonnmurphy5385
      @eamonnmurphy5385 Před 2 lety +2

      In Catholicism we have Baptism and Confessions so these will wipe you clean, ready to start again brother.

  • @bladynebula346
    @bladynebula346 Před 27 dny

    Well I’m not quite there yet. I came from Roman Catholic family. Then atheist/agnostic. Pagan. And now idk where I am but I’m leaning orthodox direction.

    • @ProtectingVeil
      @ProtectingVeil  Před 25 dny

      Godspeed! And..."slowly, slowly" as we Orthodox often say!

  • @sparrowsparrow4197
    @sparrowsparrow4197 Před 2 lety +1

    dear freinds you may wish to read "the inescapable love of god" by thomas talbot and "the destiny of man" by nikolas berdyaev and "the lamb of god" by sergi bulgakov they all teach what jesus did when he promised "i will seek until i find the very last remaining lost sheep/lost soul"

  • @radscorpion8
    @radscorpion8 Před 11 měsíci

    My journey has been atheist -> new age practitioner, largely because it has testable claims. Every time I came across orthodoxy I rejected it as a bronze age myth no different than Zeus or Thor. I have not seen any reason to think any differently :).

  • @batzzz2044
    @batzzz2044 Před 7 měsíci

    I wish there was an orthodox church near me.

    • @ProtectingVeil
      @ProtectingVeil  Před 7 měsíci

      May God guide and encourage you! In case it's helpful: orthodoxyinamerica.org/

    • @batzzz2044
      @batzzz2044 Před 7 měsíci

      @@ProtectingVeil I appreciate it but the nearest diocese is like 3 hours from me. So I just write and watch.

  • @ekke8302
    @ekke8302 Před 2 lety

    I don't understand , why any religion, why does one need a label?
    Is it because humans need something to follow to feel complete?
    I just don't get it.

    • @TheHeggert
      @TheHeggert Před 2 lety +4

      Because we are hardwired to worship something outside ourselves. The West is starving for the spiritual, it's been wallowing in self worship for a very long time. And we are fickle, capricious, evil gods. If you don't follow the One True Living God you are worshipping something else. Examine your heart, what are you worshipping?

  • @L2A815
    @L2A815 Před 2 lety +1

    ✝️☦️✝️

  • @cpolychreona
    @cpolychreona Před 2 lety

    Any guesses as to what the next creed will be?

  • @willielee5253
    @willielee5253 Před rokem

    @Paslms 122:6, Pray for the peace of Jerusalem, they will prosper that love you. The city of King David and He who is soon to come. God bless!!!

  • @makanaima
    @makanaima Před 10 měsíci

    Please don't use filters on your video - it makes it hard to watch.

  • @wordscapes5690
    @wordscapes5690 Před rokem +1

    I moved away from atheism, to Anglicanism, to orthodoxy and into Buddhism. I have now lived in Taiwan for 20 years. Never been more sure of anything in my life. Though I respect your tradition for what it is. I just found the emptiness in the Christian tradition disturbing. We are told that God is there, but he simply isn't. He is silent. Prayers remain unanswered. Ask and receive... simply untrue. The "absence" and silence of God (in Buddhism) makes perfect sense... and becomes infinitely loveable, embraceable, and perfectly understandable. In Christianity there will always be the glaring contradiction between what is promised and what is given, and the horrors of evil that simply cannot be explained without turning God into an uncaring being with procrastination addiction, or a villainous masochist. For this reason many Christians seek refuge in an afterlife, where those promises WILL be fulfilled - an ever-receding carrot-mirage dangling from an illusory stick.... with a threat of terrible punishments if your are Protestant, and terrible kindness if you are orthodox. No. Not for me. Not for any being. Forgive me. No.

    • @ProtectingVeil
      @ProtectingVeil  Před rokem +1

      Thanks for your comment. Happily, the lives of Saints ancient and modern make it abundantly clear that God does hear our prayers and answers them, according to His wisdom...and that He is love and loves His creation infinitely. If this is not our experience, then there is something wrong with us, not with God. If you haven't already, I'd encourage you to read the book _St. Silouan the Athonite_. I don't know how one could read that book and dismiss the Orthodox Christian path...

    • @wordscapes5690
      @wordscapes5690 Před rokem

      @@ProtectingVeil You mean the Athonite? Yes, indeed I have. I did not find it particularly edifying. Again, forgive me - but that is my sincere opinion. I am also very well acquainted with the writings of the Early Church Fathers. There remain very few writings of the Early Church Fathers I have not read (well... those that have been translated into English). I am also still a fervent reader of the literature of Orthodox theologian DB Hart (might I recommend him to you, if you do not know of him already? I am sure he would edify you in your orthodox faith.) I will not recommend any Buddhist text from any of our traditions, as you have stated you have already experienced Buddhism (and I will assume you were being sincere). I do not share your opinion that there is something wrong with people who do not find lovingkindness in the Christian God. I have met far too many saints on my journey, and very, VERY few who were as wicked as Christian scriptures tend to portray humanity (especially those who cannot empathise with deism). May you continue toward wisdom. And if one day, you see me in that Hell your Protestant brethren so admire, know that it has indeed been harrowed by Christ, but that all the Buddhists and the bodhisattvas remain there to assist the stubborn ones that refuse to leave. (Sorry - Buddhist humour is very droll). Might I add... Amen?

  • @Pharesm
    @Pharesm Před 2 lety +1

    Sounds like tires spinning in the mud
    Nothing against off-road vehicles, but they do generate a lot of commotion, noise and smoke!
    Don't let your mind confuse it for a spiritual thing.

  • @eamonnmurphy5385
    @eamonnmurphy5385 Před 2 lety +2

    Good news brother! It's interesting you still picked a foreign exotic brand in the end in Orthodoxy. You didn't seem to consider Catholicism and yet you live among Catholics. Maybe some lingering bias without some proper investigation? Have a look at St Peter in the Bible and Catholicisms case for having one man on earth as the 'gatekeeper'. In old Jewish tradition, the king when leaving the city, gave the keys of the city to the second in command who was to look after things. This second in command guy wore the city keys around his neck until his master came back!

  • @lovelongcox
    @lovelongcox Před 6 měsíci

    its funny cause the historical path was paganism->Orthodox-> Atheist

  • @Azrael__
    @Azrael__ Před rokem +1

    He's the type of person who doesn't actually think about the ideas presented to him, so anything new becomes his new belief system. It's the "teenager get into politics" meme but with religion.

  • @whynonbelieversareidiots8543

    just Christ is the GOD above the dome
    look into it

  • @Max_Pilgrim
    @Max_Pilgrim Před rokem

    No one talking about that terrible video quality at the beginning?

  • @toulahilaris
    @toulahilaris Před 2 lety

    Where next?🤣

  • @hermesnoelthefourthway
    @hermesnoelthefourthway Před 2 lety +3

    "all religions are one"....
    "I must create my own religion or be enslaved by someone else's"
    Both quotes, William Blake

    • @Blissblizzard
      @Blissblizzard Před 11 měsíci +1

      ... whilst sitting naked up a tree

    • @hermesnoelthefourthway
      @hermesnoelthefourthway Před 11 měsíci

      @@Blissblizzard
      Ya gotta branch out 🌴

    • @Blissblizzard
      @Blissblizzard Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@hermesnoelthefourthway Can't get past his weirdly stylised art, Everything is so tight and constrained. Bodies seem flayed. Not as awkward as Dance by Matisse but massively tense.

    • @hermesnoelthefourthway
      @hermesnoelthefourthway Před 11 měsíci

      @@Blissblizzard
      Lovely description. I prefer Blake's poetry to his paintings. Much more so. Although there is a naivette in both. But that can add to the charm.
      I've seen a number of Blake's paintings here in the tate britain in London. They do have an emotional effect when standing right up close to them. A positive one

    • @Blissblizzard
      @Blissblizzard Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@hermesnoelthefourthway Yes l never got Rothko till l went to Tate Britain, saw what he was trying to do, make colour immersive and "3D"
      Also saw His "Nauseate the Rich paintings" when they were touring, at Tate Liverpool, the curator seemed unaware or the subversive context, (very possible these days) or seeking to obliterate the mocking fact, with "The Powah of the brand name Rothko", the public just kept walking past the bilious pastel, so fail.
      Must check Blake poetry, l just feel his etchings accidentally portray his sense of being trapped, not transcendence, but visceral responses are somewhat individual.

  • @Floral_Green
    @Floral_Green Před 10 měsíci

    Agnostic -> Christian -> Agnostic -> Platonist.

  • @cushyglen4264
    @cushyglen4264 Před 2 měsíci

    You forgot environmentalism which is also a religion these days.

  • @metaorange302
    @metaorange302 Před 2 lety +2

    ...and then to true orthodoxy, become a traditional Catholic (in an Eastern Ritual Church if you wish)!!

    • @SRBOMBONICA86
      @SRBOMBONICA86 Před 2 lety +3

      Ofcourse not ,only Eastern Orthodox saves us

    • @olgakarpushina492
      @olgakarpushina492 Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah, right! Just as traditional mass is being practically forbidden. No, thanks, dear. Keep your liberal pope to yourself, would you?

  • @peterholy953
    @peterholy953 Před 2 lety +1

    Can you be a Christian and don't believe that Jesus will return?

  • @cliveadams7629
    @cliveadams7629 Před 5 měsíci

    Desperately seeking something, I guess somewhere along the line you'll pick one that sticks. Then again, in 5 years you might be a moslem. Muhammad is supposed to be the last prophet with the final message I hear.
    Personally I find it odd that anyone should feel they need to rely on the supernatural much less the ridiculousness of the Abrahamic religions. I guess some find the Co.plexity of the world overwhelming and need to retreat back into a simpler world where some greater being takes responsibility. Like being a child again where the grown ups look after everything.

  • @bboldt2
    @bboldt2 Před 2 lety +1

    Paul (St. Paul) said I can't be a Christian unless I believe dead matter can somehow be reconstituted. Can Paul (Paul Kjngsnorth) really, seriously embrace the Apostles creed? He would be a hypocrite if he said 'yes'.

  • @marcelstefan3034
    @marcelstefan3034 Před 2 lety +1

    Paginism it is evreything outside ortodoxy

  • @thegroove2000
    @thegroove2000 Před 2 lety

    One confused individual ha ha ha.

    • @Arginne
      @Arginne Před rokem

      Life is confusing. Im glad he found something that works for him. We should all seek the truth like him

    • @thegroove2000
      @thegroove2000 Před rokem

      @@Arginne Thats not the truth.

  • @Sawo-500
    @Sawo-500 Před 2 lety

    OrthodoxY is a paganist Christianity. Not different. Lol 😆😆

    • @user-pj7sq7ce1f
      @user-pj7sq7ce1f Před rokem +5

      When God was giving brains you where running to hide..

  • @jorgemello780
    @jorgemello780 Před 2 lety +3

    I think that the next stage for him is to convert to Islam, so he will do a video "From atheist, to buddhism, to Ortodoxy, to Islam. And the next one will be: from atheist, to buddhism, to Ortodoxy, to Islam back to Cristemdom ( Catholic)

    • @maxcarvalho9071
      @maxcarvalho9071 Před 2 lety +5

      This whole bogus topic of Orthodoxy being a gateway to Islam is very familiar to me....

    • @heitord5539
      @heitord5539 Před 2 lety

      @@maxcarvalho9071 como assim? De onde vem esse “bogus topic”. Não entendi bem a referência.

    • @SRBOMBONICA86
      @SRBOMBONICA86 Před 2 lety +12

      Orthodoxy is the end ,it's literally where we all should be

    • @jorgemello780
      @jorgemello780 Před 2 lety

      @@SRBOMBONICA86 wishful thinking

    • @SRBOMBONICA86
      @SRBOMBONICA86 Před 2 lety +1

      @@jorgemello780 nope ,nothing matters outside of it .You are Latinized ,you will never get it anyway , continue with your religion and leave Holy Orthodoxy alone,we are supposed to be small in numbers anyway

  • @junnereyguinid
    @junnereyguinid Před 2 lety

    Atheism to Buddhism to paganism to orthodoxy to judaism (the final destination)

    • @SRBOMBONICA86
      @SRBOMBONICA86 Před 2 lety +12

      That's like choosing to die ,you are not alive in Judaism ,it's going back to past that means nothing now

    • @junnereyguinid
      @junnereyguinid Před 2 lety

      @@SRBOMBONICA86 ive never been more alive in my whole life in judaism... Christianity is full of mysteries with wrong teachings.

    • @TheRealRealOK
      @TheRealRealOK Před 2 lety +3

      Yikes, imagine rejecting Christ.

    • @SRBOMBONICA86
      @SRBOMBONICA86 Před 2 lety

      @davy boy Mohamed is irrelevant

    • @SRBOMBONICA86
      @SRBOMBONICA86 Před 2 lety +3

      @@junnereyguinid God IS mistery

  • @BigBunnyLove
    @BigBunnyLove Před 2 lety

    Just relax. Breathe. Better than any wisdom written or spoken.

  • @zafthedon
    @zafthedon Před 2 lety

    The gateway to Islam…..

  • @Mark-yb1sp
    @Mark-yb1sp Před 2 lety +2

    Another excellent video! Thanks Herman . 😄👍🏻

    • @ProtectingVeil
      @ProtectingVeil  Před 2 lety +1

      Glory to God!

    • @Mark-yb1sp
      @Mark-yb1sp Před 2 lety +5

      Your channel is a HUGE part of my growth on the Orthodox Church. I’ve only been charismated Jan 2021 and I have learned more than I have in 50 yrs of Protestantism. 👍🏻