Shell V-Power NiTRO+ vs Cheap Gasoline. Is it better? Let's find out!

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  • Is Shell V-Power Nitro+ better than cheap gasoline? Shell claims that it cleans better and contains 7 times the amount of detergents required. So, will Shell V-Power Nitro+ clean better than cheap gasoline? Will it prevent carbon buildup? Will an engine achieve better fuel efficiency? Let's find out.
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  • @BennyTheGenerous
    @BennyTheGenerous Před 4 lety +5272

    Channels like these actually deserve to be monetized.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před 4 lety +372

      Thank you

    • @Brandon_letsgo
      @Brandon_letsgo Před 4 lety +72

      @@ProjectFarm Loved your video! But here's the question: I'm from a non-english speaking country. So the subtitles help me a lot to understand what you're saying. But the synchronization is off. When you have spare time, could you solve that? Again, thanks for the videos.

    • @LinkxUSMC87
      @LinkxUSMC87 Před 4 lety +50

      Absolutely, one of the most valuable channels on youtube for the diyers without question!

    • @ddemier
      @ddemier Před 4 lety +16

      I thought they all were monitized?

    • @deejayimm
      @deejayimm Před 4 lety +34

      Actually they all deserve to be monetized based on viewership and popularity. What's wrong is the fact that CZcams picks things they don't like and chooses to no longer monetize them. But we are still watching so......

  • @oskarkrogsgard3014
    @oskarkrogsgard3014 Před 5 lety +4186

    I like how you say cheap gas. In Europe it's called less extremely expensive gas

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před 5 lety +269

      lol. Great point! It's all expensive here too.

    • @deusexaethera
      @deusexaethera Před 5 lety +426

      That's because European governments hate personal mobility.

    • @oskarkrogsgard3014
      @oskarkrogsgard3014 Před 5 lety +352

      @@deusexaethera True. Its a shame really, because however good the public transport may be, it just can't replace the freedom of going where the fuck you want when you want to

    • @HamsterWheelGaming
      @HamsterWheelGaming Před 5 lety +279

      They usually just hate any car that is kind of fun in general too. That's why most of us drive plastic shitboxes with an engine from a hairdryer.

    • @nearlyretired7005
      @nearlyretired7005 Před 5 lety +47

      In the UK up to £6.00 a gallon!

  • @SCFPV
    @SCFPV Před 2 lety +27

    This is the best comparison/test channel on CZcams, bar none. Especially if you value honest, non-biased, no b.s, straight to the point, no beating around the bush good information. Every minute of all your videos are informative, and do not waste anyone's time. In a society that has such short attention spans, this format works perfect, and we appreciate all the work you put into making it that way!🤙

  • @AT-fi9dj
    @AT-fi9dj Před 2 lety +43

    I can’t tell you how much I appreciate your videos! You were speaking to my heart when you said, “You want your engine to be in tip top shape and last a long time.” All gearheads can definitely relate to this statement and also folks who just want their engines to last long and be reliable. From what I was taught in auto mechanic school, higher octane fuel resists combustion compared to lower octane fuels. High compression performance engines and/or forced induction engines can benefit from this in order to avoid knock or premature detonation due to high pressure, which leads to high heat. No reason at all to use high octane (premium) gas in an engine that calls for 87 octane. The inner mechanic in me does recommend using higher octane fuels in engines that calls for it in order to respect the design of the engine and all those engineers who worked tirelessly. My teacher who was an elderly man and in the business for ages recommended Techron and I trust his words.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks! Thanks for sharing.

    • @DonziGT230
      @DonziGT230 Před rokem +1

      I'm a die hard gear head and I use the cheapest gas I can find that meets the octane requirements for the vehicle/usage.

  • @drivinforalivin6945
    @drivinforalivin6945 Před 5 lety +1735

    One of the hardest working content creators on CZcams. Thanks for all your information.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před 5 lety +40

      Thank you!

    • @jonshelley1079
      @jonshelley1079 Před 5 lety +8

      Agreed

    • @jaykey6166
      @jaykey6166 Před 5 lety +1

      Very appropriate this i use lucas fuel cleaner or chevron fuel system cleaner.

    • @03Lorac
      @03Lorac Před 5 lety +3

      Fantastic video. Wow you put lots of work into this. Hats off to you. I find it strange that the deposits are somewhat equivalent inside the chamber. I expected a much cleaner overall with the shell.

    • @parkinsonsresearchfoundati4364
      @parkinsonsresearchfoundati4364 Před 5 lety +1

      Except the science is junk.

  • @snips350
    @snips350 Před 4 lety +1657

    Neighbors must be like "man does this guy ever stop cutting grass???" Awesome videos man. Keep em up!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před 4 lety +83

      Thanks 👍

    • @jayeye4798
      @jayeye4798 Před 4 lety +16

      So funny, dude.

    • @staliangaming7101
      @staliangaming7101 Před 3 lety +6

      LMAO!

    • @x79tmo314be
      @x79tmo314be Před 3 lety +24

      Check out the video where he tests the two-stroke bike kit and rides around on his property. Definitely don't think he has to worry about neighbors lol.

    • @attractspsychos
      @attractspsychos Před 3 lety +4

      @@ProjectFarm do your neighbors ever ask what the heck you are doing all of the projects are for?

  • @andrewpeters5907
    @andrewpeters5907 Před rokem +31

    After being a subscriber for several years, it’s great to see an older video to see how the thoroughness and quality has been maintained throughout the years (or improved) while still maintaining the channel’s original roots. Excellent job Todd!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem +5

      Thanks!

    • @fingpolak
      @fingpolak Před rokem

      more like, extremely poor job, if we consider the technicals

  • @93Roadie
    @93Roadie Před 2 lety +213

    All grades of Shell gasoline are top tier. Therefore I would like to see you repeat this test using Shell 87 octane instead of Vpower. Thank you for consistently turning out awesome videos!

  • @rmj5410
    @rmj5410 Před 4 lety +1381

    I love this guy, he invests a lot of time on questions I am interested in

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před 4 lety +72

      Thank you very much!

    • @mechanic1955.
      @mechanic1955. Před 4 lety +7

      He always keeps things interesting

    • @wileymonair
      @wileymonair Před 4 lety +8

      @@ProjectFarm I know this is repetitive, but I firmly believe that this test is a good one! If you made this video, then I missed it, I apologize.
      I comment this same comment in multiple videos for redundancy only, not to be annoying. With your vast amount of viewers, I don't want my reply to get lost.
      Canned Fuel for small engines
      Vs
      Pump fuel 87 and 91/93 whichever you can obtain.
      My weed whacker has a warranty void if pump gas is used.
      I'm interested in the fallowing results:
      -Efficiency
      -Power
      -Cleanliness
      I hope you can do this project! If you make a poll, I hope this ends up in it! Thank you so much for your videos, they've helped me and many others a lot!

    • @Alexander_l322
      @Alexander_l322 Před 4 lety +2

      I’m here to find out but I’m not interested in performance just to help the diesel ticking noise I’m getting under load and hope I can cure it without having new injectors fitted. Project farm answers pretty much every question I have or have had about all kinds of things. His channel is invaluable to me and he’s kind enough to reply even if I ramble on with my comments lol

    • @Dustii91
      @Dustii91 Před 4 lety +3

      Couldn't have said it better myself. This fella is pretty damn awesome 👌🏼

  • @ethanengland7268
    @ethanengland7268 Před 5 lety +1269

    I love how he goes through the effort to make the tests fair and scientific, Going to buy new spark plugs, Running old fuel out of bowl, Running The space heater, etc. Love non-bias content like yours, big supporter and viewer of this channel!!!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před 5 lety +73

      Thank you very much!

    • @matthewfredrickmfkrz1934
      @matthewfredrickmfkrz1934 Před 5 lety +19

      He is pretty thorough people like him are a treasure my girlfriend likes the videos as well

    • @dalebowen8226
      @dalebowen8226 Před 5 lety +5

      I always wondered about that super fuel. Always sceptical, always just saved on the gas and used my favorite additive. Great job! You obviously put a substantial amount of effort into the testing.

    • @Paulman50
      @Paulman50 Před 5 lety +6

      To be fair, you would need the right compression ratios and timing to suit each fuel

    • @ur_quainmaster7901
      @ur_quainmaster7901 Před 5 lety +4

      Agree. Most channels leave me saying some variation of "yeah, but they didn't check, change, test X" So you don't really know.
      Not this channel.
      Also, great editing that doesn't have me skipping around to get to the content.

  • @LeoDragoGR
    @LeoDragoGR Před rokem +129

    I’d love to see a test on how shell gas effects an engine long term vs cheap gas. I’ve been using shell only for over a year now and could tell a massive difference over running a mid tier brand. Acceleration is quicker and a lot smoother, and the engine feels like it’s healthy. Would definitely like to see an in depth test. Keep up the amazing work man!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem +22

      Thanks, will do! Thanks for the suggestion.

    • @noventay4
      @noventay4 Před rokem +23

      Pure marketing, just use top tier gasoline and you will be fine

    • @whereswaldo9089
      @whereswaldo9089 Před rokem +36

      Placebo is a powerful tool

    • @giantsfan714
      @giantsfan714 Před 11 měsíci +18

      Depends on the engine. Some engines run better with higher octane and require it for maximum performance. Some engines don’t give a fuck. It’s down to what your particular engine needs.

    • @LeoDragoGR
      @LeoDragoGR Před 11 měsíci +6

      @@giantsfan714 I’m mainly referring to the fuel mixture and additives, not the octane levels. Shell has more additives than other gas brands out there. Especially cheap mid tier gas

  • @mrawesomeDK
    @mrawesomeDK Před 2 lety +512

    Neighbours: "What the hell is that noise?"
    "Oh, it's just the neighbour mowing his garage again."

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před 2 lety +32

      lol

    • @inawrocki207
      @inawrocki207 Před 2 lety +2

      Lmao you cracked me up.

    • @alanj7306
      @alanj7306 Před 2 lety +3

      Haha 😂 That’s hilarious 😆

    • @willg.5168
      @willg.5168 Před 2 lety +1

      🤣🤣😂👍

    • @yousif1504
      @yousif1504 Před rokem

      I have grass in my garage 🤷🏾‍♂️, I prefer to snip it though so I don’t mess up the buds.

  • @XxTheJackass58xX
    @XxTheJackass58xX Před 5 lety +2194

    "I have to wake up soon tomorrow."
    Also me at 1:30am: which gasoline is better?

  • @ferdinandvries4032
    @ferdinandvries4032 Před 2 lety +9

    The slow-mo shot up the carby trumpet is one of the best shots ever 👌

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před 2 lety

      Thanks!

    • @muira58
      @muira58 Před 2 měsíci

      Ya really cool to see that drop of fuel coat for a second then get atomized!

  • @johnnyo3fan
    @johnnyo3fan Před 2 lety +254

    Two thoughts: 1. When measuring things like fuel, it is much more accurate to use weight than volume. 2. The cleaning effectiveness should be measured over a much longer time frame. It is possible that an expensive fuel would continue to clean, keeping deposits down, while a cheap fuel would continue to build more deposits.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před 2 lety +38

      Thanks for sharing!

    • @LOTPOR0402
      @LOTPOR0402 Před rokem +5

      Surly liquids can weigh different amounts for the same volume

    • @zaixai9441
      @zaixai9441 Před rokem +9

      @@LOTPOR0402 the weight Indicates the energy in the fuel. Heavier fuel would contain more energy.

    • @Utsusemi
      @Utsusemi Před rokem +9

      possible, but as a person who has physically looked and cleaned his GDI Intake Valves, seems top-tier or poop gasoline still doesn't prevent carbon... Additionally, there is almost no definitive literature on what top-tier is...

    • @billnolin9423
      @billnolin9423 Před rokem +30

      You buy gas in volume not weight.

  • @striker851
    @striker851 Před 3 lety +223

    "ok, we're still at 100 psi."
    I love how frankly and succinctly he addresses comments.

  • @ZENIGMATV
    @ZENIGMATV Před 2 lety +835

    Only higher compression motors take advantage of higher octane. Adding lead to the fuel stabilized it to increase to over a hundred octane. Very informative channel. He’s gets right to it without dragging on and on.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před 2 lety +28

      Thank you!

    • @jamesmills3176
      @jamesmills3176 Před 2 lety +11

      He don’t play around.

    • @DavidStrchld
      @DavidStrchld Před 2 lety +8

      I believe turbo/supercharged engines also, though they are typically lower compression.

    • @danielwilson6665
      @danielwilson6665 Před 2 lety +12

      @@williamwallace9620 ….Aviation fuel does have a higher octane rating but it’s formulated specifically for airplane engines and the environment they operate in. A lot of people use it in their high compression engines for the octane requirements but I’m not sure if it’s worth the extra cost and hassle of dealing with airports.
      I also need high octane fuel for my 12.4:1 compression Ford 351 Cleveland drag racing engine but the 93 octane pump fuel available locally isn’t enough. Fortunately the drag strips in my area sell a wide variety of the highest octane leaded race fuels available plus 100 octane unleaded fuel that I run in my supercharged daily driver when I race it. I just stock up enough race fuel to last in between my visits to the drag strip. Obviously the AV fuel works for you but if you have a race track nearby you might want to consider it as a option.

    • @danielwilson6665
      @danielwilson6665 Před 2 lety +21

      @@ProjectFarm …. I have a good example of serious power gains from using a premium 93 octane pump fuel compared to regular 87 octane fuel.
      I have been getting a rental car once a month for the past couple of years and it was a pleasant surprise to find out first hand about modern automotive technology and the small displacement turbocharged/inter-cooled engines available in rental cars.
      Some of the rentals I got included a Twin turbo Infinity, Ecoboost 2.3 liter, turbo/inter-cooled four cylinder Mustang (my favorite), Camaro V-6, Challenger V-6, Charger Hemi V-8 and more that perform only as good as the power train control module allows based mainly on inputs from the O2 and knock sensors. The PCM tunes for peak performance when I fill up the rental with 93 octane on the first tank full.
      The rental agency requires the tank be refilled when returning so people buy the cheapest 87 octane to top off the tank upon return.
      None of the cars I rented would perform anywhere near their turbocharged or high compression engines ability. Not until I got some 93 in the tank and the performance increase was substantial.
      For example, the Twin Turbo/inter-cooled V-6 Infinity literally wouldn’t turn a tire when hammered at a standstill and accelerating to 80 seemed almost impossible.
      After the PCM quit pulling out boost and ignition timing caused by knock retard and optimized the tune for 93 octane, the results were impressive. The Infinity would boil the tires on launch and zip up to 140 with ease. The results were the same with all of the listed rentals. A full tank of 93 octane gasoline is well worth the cost when having a blast in the rental !

  • @MichaelATH
    @MichaelATH Před 2 lety +177

    The whole point of v power is that it has a higher octane and thus more resistant to detonation. This generally means when tuning an engine, more power can be achieved without causing damage to the engine. Shell promotes more mileage and cleaning because most people don’t understand the issues of detonation (or care) but they are swayed with getting more miles per gallon.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před 2 lety +10

      Thanks for the feedback.

    • @CAMMEDcivic
      @CAMMEDcivic Před 2 lety +6

      Timing, I like e85 though.

    • @mrcaboosevg6089
      @mrcaboosevg6089 Před 2 lety +2

      Detonation isn't a problem with modern engines though so there's no benefit. It only matters on older cars which are rarely even seen on the roads these days

    • @petelking4120
      @petelking4120 Před 2 lety +30

      @@mrcaboosevg6089 timing delay reduces power so it's still a problem, it also happens after detonation has already taken place because the knock sensor needs to detect it before it can delay timing.

    • @tonybeef1142
      @tonybeef1142 Před 2 lety +6

      @@mrcaboosevg6089 My summertime fun car does not have Any computers on it .So the higher octane Does make a Big difference in performance . Also E85 is unobtainium up here B.C.

  • @geezerfetus
    @geezerfetus Před 2 lety +3

    I have never really cared about cars, tools, or 90% of the things you generally BUT I love your videos. Your back catalog has been an absolute pleasure to watch.

  • @aakashbadree5617
    @aakashbadree5617 Před 5 lety +1057

    Difference is that Vpower tastes better

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před 5 lety +53

      lol

    • @techforever1970
      @techforever1970 Před 5 lety +34

      Taste is subjective my friend. I find the cheap gas better for my tongue and my wallet.

    • @aakashbadree5617
      @aakashbadree5617 Před 5 lety +26

      Cheap gas tastes pasteurized

    • @ruikazane5123
      @ruikazane5123 Před 5 lety +3

      Quite true. Race fuel [100 oct] is stronger.

    • @Matice21
      @Matice21 Před 5 lety +13

      & it’s gluten free 😋

  • @TJ-lw7cj
    @TJ-lw7cj Před 4 lety +341

    This guy is the best reviewer I've ever seen.. very thorough and easy to hear and understand. Well Done !!!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před 4 lety +11

      Appreciate that!

    • @jayeye4798
      @jayeye4798 Před 4 lety +1

      This Guy!

    • @TJ-lw7cj
      @TJ-lw7cj Před 4 lety +1

      @@jayeye4798 ?

    • @jayeye4798
      @jayeye4798 Před 4 lety

      @@TJ-lw7cj we all call this dude, This Guy. He needs a t shirt...Project Farm hosted by This Guy.

    • @TJ-lw7cj
      @TJ-lw7cj Před 4 lety +1

      @@jayeye4798 I did some research and found out his first name is "Todd" but that was it. He's married with a son and daughter.

  • @case2329
    @case2329 Před 2 lety +1

    This guy and his videos are the best, thanks for all you do. I dont think you will ever know how informative and helpful they are

  • @marcosflores7095
    @marcosflores7095 Před rokem +1

    This is what I was looking for. I asked on a different video to do fuel comparison but I finally found it. Thanks again

  • @MrAllister9
    @MrAllister9 Před rokem +5

    it shocks me the amount of thought you put into these tests ... how thorough you try to be at all cost and we really really appreciate that
    I believe you should be making alot of money for doing these types of tests ... you're very creative and thorough

  • @amalau2472
    @amalau2472 Před 5 lety +594

    Your neighbors probably think you just really like mowing your lawn with all these videos.

  • @FreezerBurn.
    @FreezerBurn. Před 4 lety +140

    When the machines rise up that poor lawnmower is gonna kick everyones ass

  • @chrishart3090
    @chrishart3090 Před rokem +3

    Bro, this is absolutely the best channel on CZcams! Thank you for all the time, energy, effort, and money you put in to creating such a valuable and educational videos

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem

      Thanks and you are welcome!

    • @rscott2247
      @rscott2247 Před rokem

      How about Shell V Power Nitro vs. Costco Premium gas ?

  • @Hatomix
    @Hatomix Před rokem +1

    Great channel! You seem to be answering really actively and your making really informative videos. We need more channels like yours!

  • @xiaodongwang3285
    @xiaodongwang3285 Před 5 lety +588

    V-Power gasoline is mainly for high compression ratio engines and supercharged engines, which can improve work efficiency. However, most of the gasoline engines of lawn mowers and generators have a compression ratio of 8:1 to 9:1, which does not fully demonstrate the advantages of high octane gasoline.

    • @oluskloc
      @oluskloc Před 5 lety +50

      That's the point. In simple engines like this v-power can actually be less efficient, in high compression or turbo engines there will be benefits and injection system will thank you for using v-power. But personally I will use v-power only in sport car for fast driving, for daily driving car regular fuel is more than enough.

    • @obeb787
      @obeb787 Před 5 lety +68

      Knock knock. It's just a pre-ignition thing.

    • @Bryan-pm4fj
      @Bryan-pm4fj Před 5 lety +6

      @@oluskloc lol, as far as I know I haven't seen many people with turbo charged and supercharged fast sport cars around, I mostly see SUVs and Honda civics

    • @WeRide4Snow
      @WeRide4Snow Před 5 lety +3

      Xiaodong Wang but what if i have a vehicle that requires high octane that is naturally aspirated? Should i still run with shell gasoline?

    • @obeb787
      @obeb787 Před 5 lety +12

      @@WeRide4Snow just stay with the recommended octane!

  • @thomasnesmith5426
    @thomasnesmith5426 Před 3 lety +371

    You are probably the best neighbour. "Hey you know my engine isn't running so well, what fuel do you put in yours." "Friend how much time you got."

    • @DoctorFu
      @DoctorFu Před 2 lety +6

      More like... "I have a video for you to watch!" XD

    • @pkdude5334
      @pkdude5334 Před 2 lety +3

      "we're gonna test that"

    • @toxictophat4194
      @toxictophat4194 Před 2 lety

      Honestly my friend bought a car it had a missfire I bought him some shell gas and in 2 blocks his car wasn't shuttering and missing

  • @homephone1580
    @homephone1580 Před 2 lety

    Superb! Thank you for doing these videos! Whatever you're getting from CZcams is not enough. You have saved everyone a lot of money with all of the products that you have tested. Thanks again!

  • @seanp2k617
    @seanp2k617 Před 2 lety

    love all your content dude, one of the best channels on youtube with the lowest BS! Keep up the great work. Love your custom jigs for tests too!

  • @zbatchDOC
    @zbatchDOC Před 3 lety +73

    “We’re gonna be testing that!!” Is one of my favorite lines after starting to watch this channel.

  • @geno8961
    @geno8961 Před 3 lety +51

    These are the kind of open Whistle-Blower consumer comparisons we definitely find insightful and very helpful, thanks for all you do and keep up the great content.

    • @robc4191
      @robc4191 Před 3 lety +3

      Yeah, like Consumer Reports used to be, but without the fluff and BMW and Honda reviews

  • @manbeefcake
    @manbeefcake Před 2 lety +2

    I want to say amazing reporting, but this is the way everyone should do videos like this. You've got a great standard. Untampered empirical evidence. Awesome.

  • @p.s8950
    @p.s8950 Před rokem +1

    👍 Thanks so much for this. I also Really Like the effort you put into creating fair tests with as few variable as possible. Great job.

  • @leestanphill1
    @leestanphill1 Před 4 lety +526

    This guy must have a huge mound of gently used spark plugs and head gaskets in the back 40...

    • @timothylessing4774
      @timothylessing4774 Před 4 lety +14

      There is no such thing as a gently-used head gasket. It's either used or it's new. !

    • @timothylessing4774
      @timothylessing4774 Před 4 lety +2

      Also, why would he bother keeping a giant mound of used head gaskets? I am sure they are thrown away promptly after removal from the engine. I'll be at he might keep one or two for a just in case scenario.

    • @kr00k3d100
      @kr00k3d100 Před 4 lety +19

      @@timothylessing4774 ...

    • @joshuawood1436
      @joshuawood1436 Před 4 lety +3

      @@timothylessing4774 Holy moly, we found a live one here...

    • @jayeye4798
      @jayeye4798 Před 4 lety +1

      This guy!

  • @Tsxtasy1
    @Tsxtasy1 Před 5 lety +449

    You should test these on a fuel injected engine. Something that will advance timing for the higher octane.
    Running it on a carbureted engine with static timing will give you the same mpg. The engine isn’t optimized for the better fuel

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před 5 lety +91

      Thank you

    • @aiGeis
      @aiGeis Před 5 lety +21

      Wooooooooooow man I can't believe that got past me, totally forgot that the results could be different with EFI.

    • @vincentrobinette1507
      @vincentrobinette1507 Před 4 lety +9

      I mentioned fuel/air ratio, controlled by an oxygen sensor. I didn't even think about the fixed ignition timing used on these small air cooled engines.(I wish there was a way to go back and edit my last reply)

    • @Leefryyinc
      @Leefryyinc Před 4 lety +5

      Omg thank u. I laughed when it was tested in carby engine. And plus testing it on a generator will do shit all to results bad example.

    • @BrandtRedd
      @BrandtRedd Před 4 lety +11

      Some years ago I did some test on my 2010 Subaru Forester. On that car/engine I got significantly better gas mileage on lower octane fuel - so long as I met the minimum required in the specs. Then I looked up the manufacturer's ratings and they said the same thing - better gas mileage on lower octane fuel. A higher compression engine would, of course, benefit from the higher octane fuel; but not my Forester.

  • @daviddavis8653
    @daviddavis8653 Před 2 lety +54

    Awesome job, you definitely covered the bases you needed to in this video. What might be interesting is if you could find an engine with high enough compression that requires 93 octane and running on both fuels to see the results of the higher octaves knock prevention. One other point that most people don't know about is that the lower octane will make slightly more power due to its ability to burn easier, but you would need a fairly powerful engine to be able to measure a difference, like a 100hp engine may drop down to 99.8 running on a higher octane type of smaller gain/loss. The only place premium shines is in high compression or turbocharged engines, otherwise, if an engine can run 87 octane it will perform better on it than premium, but the people marketing fuel won't tell people that.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.

    • @daviddavis8653
      @daviddavis8653 Před 2 lety +3

      @Peter Angles Exactly... Basic rule of thumb is that if your engine doesn't require it, (and unless you're flooring it every time you take off), don't use it.... I understand your point about the residue as well... additives Always leave something behind... When I had my shop I could tell who was using 104+ because it would leave their spark plugs a reddish brown color.... and when it says it raises octane by 4 points... well now your 87 octane is 87.4... and so on... If you really need a high octane fuel there's always E85, but non flex fueled cars really can't take advantage of this without some serious reprogramming and tuning. We used to mix toluene with regular or premium to get the octane level we needed for supercharged or turbocharged engines and there's lots of articles on the net saying how to mix it for a specific octane level... A little pricy but far cheaper than racing fuel.

    • @STATUSTANK
      @STATUSTANK Před rokem

      Thats not entirely true. My 2017 hyundai sonata 2.4L GDI I just found out had an engine ping (thought it was a loose heat shield rattlin' around underneath) that I would hear when accelerating up a hill or with a lot of throttle. Turns out to be a very common thing with my make/model car. The owner's manual says to use "Top Tier gasoline with an octane rating of 87 OR HIGHER" and what do you know, when I switched to 93 the engine ping went away and the car runs better.

    • @matsudakodo
      @matsudakodo Před rokem

      @@STATUSTANK how about 91? 91 is much easier to reliably find.

    • @JohnsenChea
      @JohnsenChea Před 4 měsíci

      does a mini cooper need 93 shell? or regular bp work fine?

  • @cliffbushong2396
    @cliffbushong2396 Před 2 lety

    I have watched your videos for hours and I learn a lot and I really appreciate the fact that you don’t use any foul language very cool thank you you answer a lot of my questions

  • @mr.ballstone1914
    @mr.ballstone1914 Před 5 lety +14

    This dude goes through every comment. RESPECT

  • @vancejensen6036
    @vancejensen6036 Před 5 lety +551

    Here's the truth: I deliver fuel to several places, and the EPA controls the recipe for gasoline. All gas companies get it from the same place, however it's raw gasoline. However it's not all the same. The fuel then has the additives added that separate one brand from another. Shell using nitrogen is the trademark. Going back to the original point, removing all additives, fuel is all the same. Shell trucks line up at the same racks as bp and marathon, so bear all that in mind.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před 5 lety +71

      This is great information. Thank you!

    • @JT-gq8wv
      @JT-gq8wv Před 5 lety +7

      What ? For real ?

    • @transam8607
      @transam8607 Před 5 lety +26

      That's is so true lol is the type of sauce they use it all comes from the same hole at the end of the day but definitely I seen the difference on my 01 Durango that my motor is on it's way out v-power gas brings it back and also prevent the check engine light from coming back much longer and also it's a premium fuel as my truck requires all ather fuels are not as good I was also a big fan of mobile gas but it is second choice third choice is sunoco but v power is top for me

    • @robertsrt
      @robertsrt Před 5 lety +15

      So the additives get added after the truck is loaded up with fuel?

    • @vancejensen6036
      @vancejensen6036 Před 5 lety +8

      @@robertsrt each rack to load at can be different. Shell uses their own trucks and may be pre loaded, but it's hard to say. Or they have contracts with the fuel supplier and it gets mixed in off of their own tanks. It's very hard to say. Rest assured the additives are added, but it's different at each rack to confirm unless you know someone who hauls fuel for shell. It's great fuel indeed, and I mostly use v power myself in the winter and e85 for summer

  • @barrybebenek8691
    @barrybebenek8691 Před 2 lety

    This is one of my favorite subscriptions. All the content is so helpful. Thanks for this one. 🇨🇦👍🏼

  • @Unix-cz9km
    @Unix-cz9km Před rokem +7

    Awesome video, Thank You for this helpful content. I’ve found that Texaco/Chevron gas is superior to Shell as all grades of their fuel contains Techron, where shells additives are more prominent in premium only. That and I’ve had shell fuel examined by a chemist and it contained high amount of sulfur.

  • @alexanderivanov4165
    @alexanderivanov4165 Před 5 lety +250

    Several comments state the significant difference between US and European octane rating. This is mostly due to the different ratings used. US gasoline is rated in AKI (anti knock index) and European is rated in RON( research octane number). The reality is that they are not that different. 87 regular US is about 91 RON . European regular is 95 RON which is about 91 AKI, basically euro regular is us midgrade. European premium is 98 or 100 RON which is 93-95 AKI. However... running expensive gas in your car makes no sense if it doesn't have a high compression ratio or forced induction.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před 5 lety +32

      Thank you for providing the details on the differences in how octane is rated in US vs European countries.

    • @aaaabababa
      @aaaabababa Před 5 lety +6

      Well, most modern Cars will actualy gain a couple of HP from 95RON to 100RON(i am not mentioning 91 because you can't realy get it anywhere anymore)

    • @DonPablo2011
      @DonPablo2011 Před 5 lety +4

      Over here in the UK I try to only use Shell. Anything else including the likes of Esso (Exxon) or BP, I notice pinking and a greater chance to stall when pulling away slowly. This happens even though I'm only driving a 2.2 ltr Vauxhall Vectra.
      When I had my modified Subaru, "Shell V Power" made a massive difference when the tuner was mapping the car.

    • @kyosuke19971
      @kyosuke19971 Před 5 lety +4

      Don Pablo Cirkle K here in Norway is markeding their fuels as the «Miles» brand. They also have a premium version of the 95 Octane and Diesel Called «Miles+» .. The plus proves better milage and better lubrication, clean burn and cleaning of the engine. I tested the milage of my fairly regular 91 Toyota Corolla 1,6L 16 valve EFI (4A-FE Petrol engine) .. the milage in my Corolla did actually gain about 80km extra milage. Driven same speed, distance and everything was identical. That impressed me.

    • @SaabFAN86
      @SaabFAN86 Před 5 lety +3

      I've noticed a difference in sound and acceleration, as well as top speed in my low compression (about 6,5 to 7 bar measured with the hand-starter) Mariner 10hp 2-Stroke Outboard Engine:
      With 95 Octane, I get better acceleration (about 2 to 4 seconds quicker to planing - didn't exactly measure it, but it is noticeable: I had a clear disadvantage against another boat with RON 95 fuel when accelerating) but lower top speed and the engine is louder at WOT.
      With Ultimate 102 from Aral (didn't test any other fuel - Shell is absolutely no-go on a boat because of the Ethanol-Content) the top speed is 2 to 3 knots higher (Top Speed: about 25 knots) and the engine-sound has less high frequency content (sounds more pleasant), but acceleration is lacking.
      Also with Aral 102, the engine runs cleaner and seems to burn more of the oil. But it runs hotter.
      As to why, my theory is, that 95 RON Fuel burns faster, creating higher pressures and therefore more torque. At high enough RPMs, however the fuel is spent too fast and starts to cool down while 102 Octane fuel keeps burning longer and therefore keeps the temperature and pressure up. Or the premium-fuel simply has more energy per liter. This is probably the reason why premium fuels tend to cause higher exhaust temperatures in engines that don't have variable spark timing.
      There were some problems with Evinrude E-Tec engines a few years ago: The versions without knock-sensors tended to throw EGT-Errors and switch to safe-mode if ethanol-rich (10% or higher from boat gas-stations) or high octane fuel was used. Engines with knock-sensors developed more power and didn't have any problems.
      Unless the Ethanol had bonded with water, then the fuel tended to destroy injectors. :)

  • @StevenScalia
    @StevenScalia Před 5 lety +712

    Test ethanol vs non-ethanol gas for efficiency

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před 5 lety +134

      I'll do it' Great video idea!

    • @aronbraswell1589
      @aronbraswell1589 Před 5 lety +18

      try E100 Or E85 vs. ethanol free fuel. Please

    • @gen3v8
      @gen3v8 Před 5 lety +11

      Use Canadian V power it has no ethanol

    • @santaclause6462
      @santaclause6462 Před 5 lety +15

      Shell 91 octane V-Power Nitro is 0% ethanol, Atleast here it is (Canada).

    • @v8consumption
      @v8consumption Před 5 lety

      Ethanol burns way faster than gasoline mix

  • @jamejuky
    @jamejuky Před 2 lety

    Thank you so much for your sharing. I love your testing very much. It covers all parameters in the testing. Appreciated the testing. Awesome.

  • @user-lo1xk1jq1g
    @user-lo1xk1jq1g Před 9 měsíci

    Your videos have to be one of the more useful ones on CZcams. Great work.

  • @gioflores96
    @gioflores96 Před 5 lety +733

    Hey man you keep doing these videos and these companies are gonna hire a hitman lol

    • @alwaysanonymous3334
      @alwaysanonymous3334 Před 5 lety +8

      Gio Flores lmfao that’s funny made my night thanks

    • @jasonjackson329
      @jasonjackson329 Před 5 lety +4

      Lmfao. That hitman would take the money & then turn around & go after the gas company

    • @evanspader6762
      @evanspader6762 Před 5 lety

      Gio Flores i was about to say the same thing!

    • @parkinsonsresearchfoundati4364
      @parkinsonsresearchfoundati4364 Před 5 lety

      ...Hire a hitman? Why not a science teacher?

    • @gioflores96
      @gioflores96 Před 5 lety +2

      monkey Bot are you dumb? They would hire a hit man because he’s basically burning out these companies they’re not completely what they claim.

  • @gillisdanos9354
    @gillisdanos9354 Před 4 lety +16

    I can remember when you just started your channel.
    My has it come a long way and I have gained valuable information as well.
    Settled a lot of arguments between friends as well.
    I have to say your channel is kick AZZ !!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Thanks for all the great videos, much appreciated.

  • @hondaboy2001
    @hondaboy2001 Před 2 lety

    Wow! That's very interesting. Thanks for taking the time to make the video. 👍🏻

  • @BennyBestt
    @BennyBestt Před 2 lety

    One of the very best channels on CZcams. Cheers. Excellent video, as always.

  • @Max-ip7ix
    @Max-ip7ix Před 5 lety +22

    Your videos remind of motor trend, old house and norms workshop. I love the editing and your take on the experiments. Thank you!

  • @cedude69
    @cedude69 Před 5 lety +585

    If your vehicle is rated for regular gas then use regular. If your vehicle is rated for premium then use V-Power!!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před 5 lety +51

      Great advice!

    • @Forseenlife
      @Forseenlife Před 5 lety +105

      My Infiniti G37 requires premium. I filled up with Chevron premium and it ran like shit, went to vpower. Couldn't find a shell close by and put Chevron in again, same result. I believe my car is racist.

    • @stillnotwoke
      @stillnotwoke Před 5 lety +36

      @@Forseenlife Umm...you didn't say whether it ran better on Shell or not.

    • @koreymayo8884
      @koreymayo8884 Před 5 lety +51

      Even if my vehicle doesn't require premium, if it's turbo or super charged I always use premium to prevent knock/pre detonation!

    • @koreymayo8884
      @koreymayo8884 Před 5 lety +11

      @Toob247 Toob247 yep tons of em. For example my 2012 Chevy Cruze

  • @parkerhammond3258
    @parkerhammond3258 Před 2 lety +8

    I know it would be a long term test but could you do a test on ethanol vs none ethanol fuel please! You're awesome man, keep up the good work, I love your channel!

  • @3459jason
    @3459jason Před 2 lety

    Your comments and observations are spot on. To often the products cost don't provide enough of a return to make sense to use a product. Simply changing the spark plugs and periodically adding a cleaning agent will often be cheaper in the long run.

  • @igorfosp
    @igorfosp Před 5 lety +27

    Man, you and your tests are amazing. Keep doing this wonderful job.

  • @brettsharbono3022
    @brettsharbono3022 Před 5 lety +445

    High comp engines need high octane fuel. High octane burns slower/cooler allowing for more compression and advanced timing without pre-detonation. Better cleaning is just a side benefit.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před 5 lety +32

      Great point. Thank you

    • @Sterlingjob
      @Sterlingjob Před 5 lety +10

      Are you sure? More heat equals more power. High octane fuels absorb more heat allowing a greater compression and that prevents knocking!

    • @Jebotito
      @Jebotito Před 5 lety +11

      Sterlingjob thats not true. High octance gasoline enables you in much more pre-ignition because of its high knocking resistance. Low octance gas preignites on its own given higher compression. Thats why if your engine figures it has knocking going on, the ignition is retarded

    • @checkforfleas9452
      @checkforfleas9452 Před 5 lety +7

      He's only half way right. There's things in the cheap gas to keep the engine cool. High compression requires more to move them pistons. Therefore needing that gas. That has absolutely nothing to do with cooling the types of pistons. High compression pistons are used so u can make the power and not break shit. Friction is what's causing the heat. And with all that taken away to help cool it and make them move faster it will create more heat obviously. When u buy a care they now put the recommended gas on some place of the car. Older carbed cars require non ethanol because that is what they had back in the day and they were not made for type of gas we have today. It tears up the gaskets and prints amongst many things. But newer cars are made to run on this shit gas and therefore u should run the required gas and not be an idiot and be a follower lol. People always think its ok to put premium in the car when all your gonna do is destroy shit. They started carrying the non ethanol gas bc a lot of power sport vehicles require it. Atvs, sleds, all the antique cars. The antiques can't run on this shit. There is a huge difference when u put shit gas in an antique. Where I live its very hard to get non ethanol. I have to drive 20 miles to get my gas and not everyday do iyou wanna do that in a power hungry muscle car.

    • @utahcountypicazospage5412
      @utahcountypicazospage5412 Před 5 lety +3

      Jeremiah Arnold they put ethonal in gas because it lowers emissions and is cheaper because it's made in America so it lowers the price a little flex fuel cars can better adapt to the mixture from the factory

  • @superpoon16
    @superpoon16 Před 2 lety

    thank you sir for run the test for us this is what i curious for a long time .

  • @billjamison2877
    @billjamison2877 Před 2 lety

    You Sir ARE the Bee's Knee's for information to the average consumer. Great Job Sir!

  • @schmitty8225
    @schmitty8225 Před 5 lety +145

    2:13 that is actually at 2.8 not 2.4, that marks are by .2 not .1

  • @A7XSniper21
    @A7XSniper21 Před 3 lety +24

    Thank you for making videos man, they have helped me a lot over the years. You give honest and well tested reviews, which is something that almost no one does.

  • @robertf3340
    @robertf3340 Před 2 lety

    I always find your content informative and interesting. Keep it up.

  • @Dansk55
    @Dansk55 Před 2 lety +1

    This is especially important on older vehicles that are less efficient as compared to new. Good stuff.

  • @2254mau
    @2254mau Před 2 lety +11

    The amount of effort you put into the tests is amazing

  • @edobrisku5391
    @edobrisku5391 Před 3 lety +30

    Great video(s)!!! Love your unbiased reviews! I would love to see a video of the of premium fuel from different companies, and whether it’s worth paying extra for bigger names.

    • @NazriB
      @NazriB Před 2 lety

      Lies again? Vigrx Plus

  • @bslav94pgt
    @bslav94pgt Před rokem +1

    Subscribed, this guy is awesome saw numerous videos. Very educational 😊

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem

      Thanks! Thanks for watching and describing!

  • @anthonyjulson8840
    @anthonyjulson8840 Před 2 lety

    I definitely appreciate how thorough you are!!

  • @taylormoats2099
    @taylormoats2099 Před 5 lety +6

    Dude, I appreciate the amount of work that you put into this, and for a good cause. Great job!

  • @OpenRoader
    @OpenRoader Před 5 lety +634

    Still one of the best channels on YT.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před 5 lety +10

      Thank you

    • @nickanon329
      @nickanon329 Před 5 lety +1

      Wrong. It IS the best :p

    • @erictalaria6153
      @erictalaria6153 Před 5 lety

      ummmm ive seen much better yt channels

    • @TheMichelgolf
      @TheMichelgolf Před 5 lety

      And what you do with EE?, engineering explained?

    • @nickanon329
      @nickanon329 Před 5 lety

      @@erictalaria6153 The crap you like doesn't count, Half of the crap you like been banned throughout 95% of the world.

  • @tweedjohnny8740
    @tweedjohnny8740 Před rokem

    You really help people far more than you know. Thank you very much for your videos.

  • @villalobosregina
    @villalobosregina Před rokem

    You’re so thorough. We love your videos. No more overpaying for gasoline ❤ from California

  • @TofuProductionCinema
    @TofuProductionCinema Před 3 lety +75

    There's CZcams, and then there's Project Farm. Quality content as always, PF.

  • @kaneamora7371
    @kaneamora7371 Před 5 lety +586

    I think you mower is probably thankful to have actual gasoline for a change. 😆

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před 5 lety +47

      lol!

    • @jbbolts
      @jbbolts Před 5 lety +1

      Ha!

    • @williamsquires3070
      @williamsquires3070 Před 5 lety +21

      Justin Williams - yeah, as opposed to used motor oil, mothballs, hairspray, toenail clippings, spray paint, and God knows what else! 😆

  • @jackejr74
    @jackejr74 Před rokem

    GREAT Video comparison!!! Please keep up your Great Work!!!!!

  • @gene7887
    @gene7887 Před rokem +1

    Consistently one of the best channels on YT. I'd say you should have a TV/streaming show but I think this format works better for you, honestly.

  • @hello7533
    @hello7533 Před 4 lety +293

    Projectfarm: "If you're like me, you want your engine to be in tip-top condition"
    Also projectfarm: Spends entire channel replacing oil with honey, petrol with wd40, cylinder head with Jb weld.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před 4 lety +36

      Thanks for watching!

    • @matthewlee2686
      @matthewlee2686 Před 4 lety +8

      Honey was my idea. Thanks for making that video!

    • @TonyScandal
      @TonyScandal Před 3 lety

      @@matthewlee2686 Thanks for asking for .. watching it next.

    • @jove1155
      @jove1155 Před 3 lety +1

      Well, what if honey WAS better? No way to find out...

  • @LinkxUSMC87
    @LinkxUSMC87 Před 4 lety +9

    You quickly became my favorite channel 😉 more valuable then gold!

  • @UltraKryptonian
    @UltraKryptonian Před 2 lety +4

    I love your videos. Always very thorough and explained quite well. I even watch through the repetitive footage, like removing and replacing the cylinder heads, because you show interesting information during the process. Very well done and I’m glad I subscribed!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před 2 lety

      Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for watching and subscribing!

  • @Laxmaverick
    @Laxmaverick Před 9 měsíci +1

    Amazing content thanks for making it and sharing it!

  • @jamestdawson
    @jamestdawson Před 3 lety +60

    Thanks for another great video. I started using Shell V-Power in a '07 Mercedes E320 with the M104 engine. At 225k miles, I did not expect much of an improvement, but there is. I had been using a quality Premium Gas, but I experienced a slight, but noticeable improvement in performance. I don't think is a function of the cleaners as the injectors, pump, filter and fuel lines were replaced a month before. If it keeps the engine running smooth until a typical rebuild at 400k, the .50 a gallon surcharge is a good ROI.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před 3 lety +9

      You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.

    • @illegalopinions4082
      @illegalopinions4082 Před 2 lety +7

      @Peter Angles No, V Power definitely has an edge over bog standard fuel. Any car it is put in is noticeably sprightlier. Its straight up worth the cost if you drive any car that's not a cheap pos.

    • @fduran6993
      @fduran6993 Před 2 lety +1

      You can add a gasoline additives regularly and save money. Liquid Molly

    • @paulhope3401
      @paulhope3401 Před 2 lety +1

      @@fduran6993 liquid moly to the fuel? :o

    • @paulhope3401
      @paulhope3401 Před 2 lety +2

      How much extra has it cost you over its life so far to run it on V-power?

  • @Elt31987
    @Elt31987 Před 5 lety +84

    Cheap gasoline with Marvel Mystery Oil vs Shell!!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před 5 lety +16

      Great video idea!

    • @jimwatts7489
      @jimwatts7489 Před 5 lety +2

      As long as you don't put to much MMO in the gas, it will increase octane and engine torque. To much and it starts to become more like a diesel fuel and will foul your spark plugs and clog your catalytic converter faster. I put some in the gas when I'm going to be hauling a heavy trailer with my gasoline truck; MMO gives it more torque for pulling up grades/hills.

    • @clintwiz
      @clintwiz Před 5 lety

      Jim Watts How much do you put in

    • @jimwatts7489
      @jimwatts7489 Před 5 lety

      @@clintwiz, well Clinton I usually use about 1 and 1/2 oz per gallon. I also, put a bottle of Gum Out Octane Boost in with it, because I use the lowest octane level of gasoline. The lowest octane gas at the pump has the lowest amount of alcohol content. Alcohol is filler and has very hardly no energy producing ability. So, if you can't get alcohol free gasoline then try my system it works great. Here is some online maps that show where there are fuel stations that have alcohol free gasoline. "Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada" www.pure-gas.org/ ...... www.google.com/search?q=alcohol+free+gasoline&oq=alcohol+free+gasoline&aqs=chrome..69i57.429066j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
      Alcohol free gas gives more power and does eat the hell out of you fuel system like that *&%&*^ ripoff alcohol gas does.

  • @NANDOFFDataRecovery
    @NANDOFFDataRecovery Před 2 lety

    Very informative as always. Many thanks for another great video!

  • @paulcastro9478
    @paulcastro9478 Před 7 měsíci

    Thank you 😊for giving us the public the real deal behind these products 👍

  • @mcwrench45
    @mcwrench45 Před 2 lety +8

    Very scientific study! Thanks for your efforts and enthusiasm for solving Mechanical Mysteries! I enjoy especially seeing how you control your comparisons and approach these issues from different angles... Good Work, and Thanks... tipping a cold one in your honor, cheers

  • @kjprice1443
    @kjprice1443 Před 3 lety +4

    Wonderful, simple, accurate and informative tests for the ordinary person with no BS. A breath of fresh air!

  • @jerkshop
    @jerkshop Před rokem

    This is a great demo no BS intros just plain let's do this thing and here is the result. Good stuff!!!

  • @ianpollard4501
    @ianpollard4501 Před 2 lety +1

    I have always wanted to know the difference between regular and super gasoline. This is surely top 3 best CZcams channels I've found so far. Keep it up man!⭐⭐⭐

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you very much!

    • @DonziGT230
      @DonziGT230 Před rokem

      The primary difference is the octane, and more isn't better unless your engine needs it. Some brands add extra cleaners to their premium grades.

  • @joelcromwell5983
    @joelcromwell5983 Před 3 lety +32

    I've got one for you, Shell super diesel with cetane compared to regular diesel.

  • @nicholasnastovski3424
    @nicholasnastovski3424 Před 3 lety +267

    Hey Todd! Love the video! Have you ever considered doing a gasoline showdown using the same grade of gasoline but using different brands like 93 shell vs 93 Costco vs 93 Mobil etc? Thanks for the consideration and great work you do!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před 3 lety +72

      Great video idea!! Thank you

    • @kylehaley5495
      @kylehaley5495 Před 2 lety +18

      I have to see this video!!!
      I'm curious about the Costco gas tho.

    • @CHEECHMUN
      @CHEECHMUN Před 2 lety +4

      @@ProjectFarm Try Sunoco!

    • @thetechlibrarian
      @thetechlibrarian Před 2 lety +4

      @@ProjectFarm I would like to see this.

    • @jessewashere4734
      @jessewashere4734 Před 2 lety +3

      I was just thinking about the same thing! Just like the motor oil playoff style.

  • @IamChucky_
    @IamChucky_ Před 2 lety

    This video is especially helpful now that gas is over $6/gallon here in California. Thanks for your hard work.

  • @Rgermian
    @Rgermian Před 2 lety

    Amazing content mate. One of the best channels on YT

  • @andrewortega3071
    @andrewortega3071 Před 4 lety +10

    Absolutely LOVE his unbiased, factual findings!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před 4 lety +2

      Thanks so much!

    • @andrewortega3071
      @andrewortega3071 Před 4 lety

      I've been curious about Walnut Shell Carbon Cleaning. It seems to be gaining popularity, but seems to me the walnut shell pieces would get lodged into the compression ring, and cause it to get stuck. Would love to see the results of this on a carboned up engine, and see the piston and rings after the process

  • @mignav464
    @mignav464 Před 3 lety +187

    Considering the short time the engines ran with the types of gas, from an engineer's standpoint, it is quite an impressive outcome in favor of the expensive gas. Imagine the difference if you used it your 200.000 miles/5000 hour-car engine.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před 3 lety +18

      Thanks for the feedback.

    • @lebronjames4705
      @lebronjames4705 Před 2 lety +17

      i would say the cheap gas did great compare to the shell gas other than cleaning the bolt

    • @thetechlibrarian
      @thetechlibrarian Před 2 lety +14

      Yup it's definitely about long term vs short term, not only that but the cheap gas he used is it unnamed or we talking Shell 87 or corner store gas station 87 it makes a difference, and this only seems to be a Gunk test, there's corrosion,wear friction, Piston rings etc etc

    • @WagesOfDestruction
      @WagesOfDestruction Před 2 lety +1

      That was my thoughts too.

    • @joubess
      @joubess Před 2 lety +12

      I would worry about clogging up the small openings with gunk the detergents break loose. Like flushing a transmission, it could backfire on you. You think you're doing something good for your transmission and then it stops shifting because all the stuff in the fluid helped it to shift. You take that away and you get a lot of slipping on that old transmission. Removing too many deposits too quickly from your engine could clog it up and wreak havoc! If you started when it was new, it would be fine. But if not, I think it's a big risk. Unless it's to the point of needing to be rebuilt, I wouldn't take the risk.

  • @j.tazcona8199
    @j.tazcona8199 Před rokem

    Thank you so much for hard work. It helps us a lot.
    Keep it up you are doing a heck of a job.

  • @beefgoat80
    @beefgoat80 Před rokem +1

    I've always wondered about Shell gasoline. I've been told by many a gear head it's of a high quality and that they never put anything else in their cars. Thank you for making this video. I feel rather satisfied to have seen the demonstration and the results. I've learned things I hadn't known before, and I shall wonder no more. 👍

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem

      You are welcome!

    • @DonziGT230
      @DonziGT230 Před rokem

      I'm a hard core gear head and I run the cheapest gas I can find that fulfills the octane requirement of the engine/usage for whatever I'm driving.

  • @iseeolly9959
    @iseeolly9959 Před 4 lety +95

    You'd really need to test them on an engine with a knock sensor and lambda probe.

  • @texarcana2002
    @texarcana2002 Před 5 lety +308

    Good video... HOWEVER:
    Going from one fuel to another in a mower engine is useless, because it cannot advance the timing to the brink of detonation, in order to extract maximum power & efficiency.
    Modern automotive engines continually monitor the airflow into the engine, the oxygen content of the exhaust, and the KNOCK SENSOR to determine if the engine is running at max efficiency. The ECU checks these things (along with a host of other sensors) hundreds of times each second, and along with the throttle opening position, allows the computer to make sure the engine is running optimally. No matter what car/engine/recommended octane, a modern engine will ALWAYS produce more power and efficiency with a higher octane fuel, simply because the ECU can advance the timing further using high-octane fuel, which produces more power (up to a point, of course). The key here is the knock sensor: that's what allows the ECU to know when it's gone too far advancing the timing, and when to pull it back a bit.
    Simple mower engines (and older carbureted engines without knock sensor technology) cannot make these adjustments, so running on lower octane vs. higher octane doesn't do any good.
    Now, as for Shell 'V-Power Nitro+" (advertising EXTRA NITROGEN for MOAR POWAR shenanigans): you'll be hard pressed to actually find any, except at certain company stations, because most stations (even the "branded" ones) won't necessarily buy the ACTUAL Shell product, instead going with whoever is selling the cheapest stuff that day. There's only 6 or so distributors of fuel, including Shell, Chevron, and E/M; and they all sell the three different octane levels without any of the "proprietary" additives (which they add to the basic fuels when asked, for that premium price)--so why actually PAY for the premium stuff when they can sell the normal fuels under the "V-POWAR" label??? Answer: THEY DON'T, they just sell normal fuels as graded and regulated by the government, except for the VERY few company stores that carry the fuels, to help prevent charges of false advertising (which isn't even being enforced anymore).
    We won't get into watering-down practices; or the various companies' advertising claims that their special brews "add more power; more efficiency; cleaner running; 50hp more with the sticker/; longer, harder...(er, um, wrong commercial): it's all a massive load of horse manure--in fact, horse manure does more than most of their silly additives.
    Bottom line: don't buy into the hype, just get the fuel you need for the best price you can find, from the MOST FREQUENTLY VISITED stations, because the faster they go thru the fuel, the less water accumulation will occur, which makes the BIGGEST difference in fuel quality. Keep your engines tuned properly, with good oil, and you'll be good to go for a very long time.
    (let the flames begin....)

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před 5 lety +26

      Thank you

    • @henryrollins9177
      @henryrollins9177 Před 5 lety +6

      This guy knows...!

    • @teovm
      @teovm Před 5 lety +3

      Exactly what he said in the video, if designed for 87 octane no need to use fuel with higher octane.

    • @041zagreb
      @041zagreb Před 5 lety

      Tex Arcana a

    • @Jojo_Bee
      @Jojo_Bee Před 5 lety +12

      In a nutshell, the busier the station, the more the fuel is removed and replaced. It gets the freshest fuel most of the time!

  • @markthomas4083
    @markthomas4083 Před rokem

    Another fantastic lesson for all of us.

  • @johnlmehne180
    @johnlmehne180 Před rokem +33

    This was a great demonstration. I would have added one more test sequence: store both gasoline samples for 6 months to 1 year under the same conditions, and then run the same tests. I always recommended top-name-brand gasoline to my customers as opposed to the "cheap" stuff, primarily because of the higher-quality additives vs. possibly the lack thereof in the cheap stuff. I've had Shell premium that was 5 years old that was still good, vs. 6 month old "cheap" gas that smelled like varnish in some of my customer's equipment.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem +3

      Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.

    • @fairbanksbrian
      @fairbanksbrian Před rokem

      @First name Last name However it's an important quality for equipment that is only occasionally used.

    • @cadacabezaesunmundo6496
      @cadacabezaesunmundo6496 Před 8 měsíci +1

      My V6 Toyota Hilander has a crispier response with premium gasoline than with regular. Having a car is luxury anyway. I like the faster response I get in my car from the premium gas. With lower grade my car feels tired and slower to respond.