Just imagine what lies on the bottom of lakes and ocean bottoms. What is really cool about underwater archeology is the fact these sites lay undisturbed. There have been some amazing finds off of the coast of the UK and Netherlands. Great work. Thank you for a great presentation.
Enjoyed this very much. Happy that this branch of study exists. In my younger years dreamed of being an archeologist. Never could do this research due to fear of deep water. Thank you so much for sharing. Somewhat disturbing that some of the comments are so full of hatefulness.
North San Diego county has some fantastic undersea sites ranging from shallow tidal zone to 100 foot depth level, Over the years many well made stone bowls and tools have been found in profusion at various depths along the now submerged coastline. A testament for those who just cannot fathom the concept or reality of climate change & somehow see the planet as a static orb.
...found your channel and i am thrilled....you guys hold the possible puzzle piece i wish to see...i would love to see every piece of wood 10,000 years old and older....my study is stone tools before the Y D event...the craftsmanship is incredible...and if this quality of art is put on their stone tools...then imagine the art they put on wood...
....this is so funny...smiles smiles...i just read all of the other comments... it appears that you guys would get more respect if you were....men..........but you're not....you're women.....and even worst....you're attractive women....haven't you heard...all attractive women are dumb............ hang in there girls
Unrecorded history is under 400ft of water, offshore on the continental shelves of the World's shorelines where it was during the last ice age which ended 10k yrs ago.
If we want to know truly what these people were up too it is imperative we find these underwater sites. We should be checking everywhere that was above sea level before the meltwater pulses of the younger dryas. I think if we look in the right place we may find answers as to how long people were here, but what happened to them at the end of the Clovis culture.
@@TheArchaeologicalConservancy Interesting how instead of simply acknowledging that he is 100% correct so that the record is correct you instead in a sarcastic and snarky manner absolve yourself of any agency by virtue of your species, as if he was somehow morally transgressing to correct you when you were wrong since you are human and, after all, humans err. Yes, humans make errors, but in the grownup world we correct those errors because we place truth over feelings. A more professional, adult response would have been to simply acknowledge his correction, thank him and to have left it at that.
@@-MattMcCauley- Thank you for your feedback, as well. There is nothing interesting about a mistake that I acknowledged, and I think you misinterpreted my response. The tone of this whole thread is pretty snarky, but my response wasn't intended as such.
@@TheArchaeologicalConservancy I don't suppose anyone noticed that the guy misspelled sites? The Doggerland has lots of potential but still waiting to see all the sites
I hate being the sole commenter on this video - because it is going to be negative. This is a very interesting topic and very few people comprehend how vast the area of ancient habitable land existed at the height of the ice age. My complaint is the total pomposity of the general academic culture and community. You appear to have zero self awareness. If any of you had to actually produce value to support a family, you would all starve to death. You rely on the government tit and yet I have never heard a single one of you stop and thank the hard working American taxpayers who fund you year in and year out. Instead, you genuinely believe that you are doing all of us a favor. Thank you for the AMAZING pollen and old trees which you could have gotten with a bucket on a chain.
I would like to invent a drinking game in which every time you mention some university or any person's credential, you have to take a drink from your beer. How fun that would be.
Agree 100% and I added a negative comment, so you are no longer the sole dissenter. I read your comment after having posted mine, but coincidentally I had also recommended a drinking game. Mine was a little different, though. In my game the players take a shot each time she used the word "unique" oddly preceded by an intensifier, like "really".
Right, because who needs those pesky old artifact-rich shipwrecks when you can deploy literally millions of dollars worth of underwater imagining technology (and associated operator time) and boats and dive equipment and insurance and a host of other overhead in order to find a tree (complete with rootwad!) and a stick that might have sort of been sharpened at the end, maybe, assuming I didn't just float out there and happen to sink to the bottom, which is a pretty common occurrence on lakes. Her students can make a drinking game out of every time this woman says the word "unique" oddly preceded by an intensifier, like "really". (Unique means one of a kind, thus the thing described either is or is not unique. There are not degrees of one of a kindness). I lost count around 10, so if each instance required a shot I'd have been wasted, really wasted, by the time she got to the Q&A wherein she preceded each of her answers to audience questions with "that's a REALLY great question!". Thank you, participation trophy generation! I also really enjoyed her sort of implied possibility that they might find mummified corpses, a la 'bog bodies', in their 20cm peat layer. I can't wait to see what one of those looks like! Old cartoons in which characters were occasionally flattened by steam rollers come to mind. She pretty much lost me from the beginning, though, with her vapid, pointless NPC-esque virtue signalling as she "acknowledged" various Indian tribes who happened to dwell in the vicinity of her university around the time white people first got up there to start looking around. By so doing she chose a really great way of removing from herself any credibility out of the gate, so congratulations on that, Ashley. Again, the self-important meaninglessness of woke academia on display here in all of its glory. Bravo! Guys like George Bass and Robert Marx are probably rolling in their graves at what said woke academia and the products of its quotaism have done to underwater archeology. Clearly, the TX legislature needs to take a close look at what in the hell is being done with it higher ed spending.
@@annastebelskyj580 No, I didn't. But obviously what is important here are my *motivations* for making observations and arguments, not the points or arguments themselves. Because . . . feelings.
Maybe that pointy stick that floated out there just happened to have some obsidian flakes that rode along for the fun of it and jumped off for a fun ride to the bottom. Hey, maybe the obsidian flakes floated on the pointy stick, all the way from Oregon.
Just imagine what lies on the bottom of lakes and ocean bottoms. What is really cool about underwater archeology is the fact these sites lay undisturbed. There have been some amazing finds off of the coast of the UK and Netherlands. Great work. Thank you for a great presentation.
I live in the PNW and am excited for future research of coastal waters here.
Enjoyed this very much. Happy that this branch of study exists. In my younger years dreamed of being an archeologist. Never could do this research due to fear of deep water. Thank you so much for sharing. Somewhat disturbing that some of the comments are so full of hatefulness.
Greetings from the BIG SKY of Montana.
Promptly downloaded Elizabeth Sonnenberg's thesis and 2022 paper :-)
wonderful, thank you!
Thank you too!
North San Diego county has some fantastic undersea sites ranging from shallow tidal zone to 100 foot depth level, Over the years many well made stone bowls and tools have been found in profusion at various depths along the now submerged coastline. A testament for those who just cannot fathom the concept or reality of climate change & somehow see the planet as a static orb.
...found your channel and i am thrilled....you guys hold the possible puzzle piece i wish to see...i would love to see every piece of wood 10,000 years old and older....my study is stone tools before the Y D event...the craftsmanship is incredible...and if this quality of art is put on their stone tools...then imagine the art they put on wood...
....this is so funny...smiles smiles...i just read all of the other comments... it appears that you guys would get more respect if you were....men..........but you're not....you're women.....and even worst....you're attractive women....haven't you heard...all attractive women are dumb............ hang in there girls
Thank you very much for this awesome presentation. I loved it!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Greetings from the BIG SKY
Unrecorded history is under 400ft of water, offshore on the continental shelves of the World's shorelines where it was during the last ice age which ended 10k yrs ago.
Im confused by the wood she says is 9000 years old just laying on the bottom. So zero siltation in 9000 years?
If we want to know truly what these people were up too it is imperative we find these underwater sites. We should be checking everywhere that was above sea level before the meltwater pulses of the younger dryas. I think if we look in the right place we may find answers as to how long people were here, but what happened to them at the end of the Clovis culture.
PS: You mispronounced one of the most important underwater archeological sights known to science.
It's called Doggerland, not Dodgerland..
I apologize for being human and making a mistake...but thank you for the pointer.
And don’t let it happen again!!!! I’m kidding
@@TheArchaeologicalConservancy Interesting how instead of simply acknowledging that he is 100% correct so that the record is correct you instead in a sarcastic and snarky manner absolve yourself of any agency by virtue of your species, as if he was somehow morally transgressing to correct you when you were wrong since you are human and, after all, humans err.
Yes, humans make errors, but in the grownup world we correct those errors because we place truth over feelings. A more professional, adult response would have been to simply acknowledge his correction, thank him and to have left it at that.
@@-MattMcCauley- Thank you for your feedback, as well. There is nothing interesting about a mistake that I acknowledged, and I think you misinterpreted my response. The tone of this whole thread is pretty snarky, but my response wasn't intended as such.
@@TheArchaeologicalConservancy I don't suppose anyone noticed that the guy misspelled sites? The Doggerland has lots of potential but still waiting to see all the sites
I hate being the sole commenter on this video - because it is going to be negative. This is a very interesting topic and very few people comprehend how vast the area of ancient habitable land existed at the height of the ice age. My complaint is the total pomposity of the general academic culture and community. You appear to have zero self awareness. If any of you had to actually produce value to support a family, you would all starve to death. You rely on the government tit and yet I have never heard a single one of you stop and thank the hard working American taxpayers who fund you year in and year out. Instead, you genuinely believe that you are doing all of us a favor.
Thank you for the AMAZING pollen and old trees which you could have gotten with a bucket on a chain.
I would like to invent a drinking game in which every time you mention some university or any person's credential, you have to take a drink from your beer. How fun that would be.
Welcome to 'woke' archaeology 🤣
Agree 100% and I added a negative comment, so you are no longer the sole dissenter. I read your comment after having posted mine, but coincidentally I had also recommended a drinking game. Mine was a little different, though. In my game the players take a shot each time she used the word "unique" oddly preceded by an intensifier, like "really".
@@-MattMcCauley-
You forgot the second qualifier. Special.
Right, because who needs those pesky old artifact-rich shipwrecks when you can deploy literally millions of dollars worth of underwater imagining technology (and associated operator time) and boats and dive equipment and insurance and a host of other overhead in order to find a tree (complete with rootwad!) and a stick that might have sort of been sharpened at the end, maybe, assuming I didn't just float out there and happen to sink to the bottom, which is a pretty common occurrence on lakes.
Her students can make a drinking game out of every time this woman says the word "unique" oddly preceded by an intensifier, like "really". (Unique means one of a kind, thus the thing described either is or is not unique. There are not degrees of one of a kindness). I lost count around 10, so if each instance required a shot I'd have been wasted, really wasted, by the time she got to the Q&A wherein she preceded each of her answers to audience questions with "that's a REALLY great question!". Thank you, participation trophy generation!
I also really enjoyed her sort of implied possibility that they might find mummified corpses, a la 'bog bodies', in their 20cm peat layer. I can't wait to see what one of those looks like! Old cartoons in which characters were occasionally flattened by steam rollers come to mind.
She pretty much lost me from the beginning, though, with her vapid, pointless NPC-esque virtue signalling as she "acknowledged" various Indian tribes who happened to dwell in the vicinity of her university around the time white people first got up there to start looking around. By so doing she chose a really great way of removing from herself any credibility out of the gate, so congratulations on that, Ashley. Again, the self-important meaninglessness of woke academia on display here in all of its glory. Bravo!
Guys like George Bass and Robert Marx are probably rolling in their graves at what said woke academia and the products of its quotaism have done to underwater archeology. Clearly, the TX legislature needs to take a close look at what in the hell is being done with it higher ed spending.
Did you seriously watch an HOUR of "pointless expense" just so you could engage in superiority signaling???
@@annastebelskyj580 No, I didn't.
But obviously what is important here are my *motivations* for making observations and arguments, not the points or arguments themselves.
Because . . . feelings.
Maybe that pointy stick that floated out there just happened to have some obsidian flakes that rode along for the fun of it and jumped off for a fun ride to the bottom. Hey, maybe the obsidian flakes floated on the pointy stick, all the way from Oregon.