The Moon’s Tears Fell on Cahokia
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- čas přidán 18. 11. 2021
- presented Tim R. Pauketat, Director of the Illinois State Archaeological Survey, Illinois State Archaeologist, and a professor of Anthropology and Medieval Studies at the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
With the discovery of the first yellow-floored shrine house in 2000, archaeologists began to rethink the rise of one of North America’s most important ancient cultural phenomena-Greater Cahokia and its far-flung outposts or missions. This talk will take us from enigmatic Trempealeau, in Wisconsin, and the Emerald Acropolis, in Illinois, to the summit of the great earthen pyramid at Cahokia itself. In these places, new discoveries of aligned monuments, circular platform mounds, steam baths, causeways, and water features help to explain the rise and fall of a city and its possible ties to cultures far to the south.
Timothy R. Pauketat is the Director of the Illinois State Archaeological Survey, Illinois State Archaeologist, and a professor of Anthropology and Medieval Studies at the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign. He previously held positions at the University of Oklahoma and the State University of New York, Buffalo. Professor Pauketat has published extensively on his research at Cahokia, other Mississippian sites, and the continent as a whole. He has written or edited 17 books, including The Archaeology of Ancient North America (Cambridge 2020), Chiefdoms and Other Archaeological Delusions (AltaMira 2007), and Cahokia: Ancient America’s Great City on the Mississippi (Penguin, 2009). His current interests include the relationship of global history and humanity to matter and effects, with a focus on the Medieval Warm Period.
Recorded: November 18, 2021
| The Archaeological Conservancy 2021
This is extremely important... how does this video only have 11 comments and 107 likes?!?
Great lecture and discussions!
Excellent program!!!!!!
Knob Noster, Missouri - to the east south of the railroad tracks in a suburb that was at one time called Country Acres and possible wash from the mounds includes pink clay along with arrowheads just under the top soil. one of the mounds in Knob is near the water tower with several homes built on it. There should be some info on the area online. Johnson County Missouri historical society / archives may also have info. The area with the pink clay was surrounded by farms in the 70s, unsure if it has been built over since then.
The moon & water connection is very intriguing to me, especially given what is already known about the moon and tides.
Could the ancients have also discovered a linkage between the moon and the subterranean water table?
And with a connection to the South, I wonder if this ritualism peaked based on an awareness of the water/resource issues the Mayans experienced.
I'm from around 100 miles south of Cahokia and there is a huge bluff around my families land that has a bunch of mississippian paintings on it and we were told it's a shrine to the underwater panther God, if yall wanna see it I made a video on my channel showing the bluff with the paintings and the 2 caves that are mostly filled in now
6:33 I always thought these were called moondogs. I've always seen them when weather change was coming. For example like going from spring to summer or summer to fall. Not just a rain storm but a bigger change in seasons was coming soon. Am I wrong?
Who is Sarah Webber? I've seen her on several of these zoom style presentations but have never seen her speak. ...
Black drink I thought was a cleansing drink ( Cherokee, Creek, Coosa etc) to help 'cleanse' ( vomit or other) . The caffeine was not a drink but part of feeling ok after throwing up and going to next stage of cleaned?
Ring around the sun rain by the tons.
Ring around the moon rain by the spoon.
I really appreciate this man’s knowledge. I’m half way through his presentation, and he just suggested Cahokia was a place of healing. Well, it was a place of human sacrifice 1000 yrs ago. Let’s see if he mentions that in the second half of his presentation. Here we go…
"...our best guess..." says it all.
Exactly
All archaeology is based on inference and assumptions
Corn, a crop that can be harvested, dried, and stored ( "surplus") likely drove American Capitalism/overpopulation, just as wheat did in the ancient East, thus out competing the numbers of Hunter-Gatherers and leading to our alienation from the natural environment so honored by the Woodland Indians. Stress R Us
I'm wary of broad generalizations:
1) i doubt all (Woodland) Indians were as connected to nature as you suggest, these were the people who built mounds wider than the Cheops pyramid, and formed complex societies that certainly didn't reflect "noble savages"
2) a lot of Native American agriculture was about balance and diversity: turning to corn farming didn't eliminate hunter-gathering, they didn't practice monoculture like we do, much less on our scale, and based on our financial incentives
3) linking (American) capitalism, overpopulation, the histories of post-settlement US, Native American hunter-gathering and agrilcutlre, and that of the ancient Near East is an impossibly huge conglomerate that I must at least question the validity of
@@MH-ms1dg Did someone say "broad generalizations"?
@@StressRUs on the scale of the pre-Columbian continental US, yes, I do interpret your original statement as a broad generalization to be wary of.
Prior to the arrival of corn people in the eastern woodlands harvested, dried and stored nuts, and around 5,000 years ago went through an independent agricultural revolution , domesticating marsh elder, sunflowers, goosefoot, maygrass and other plants around. These all have seeds that can be dried and stored like corn. The creation of agriculture did not crowd out hunter gatherers though, as people adopted agriculture they continued to forage and gather wild food sources.