The Daily Show - Bill O'Reilly Extended Interview
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- "Killing Patton" author Bill O'Reilly insists that the American Dream is available to anyone who gets educated, is honest, and works hard regardless of race.
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By todays standards, this is a ridiculously civil and mature debate.
Isn't that crazy lol
and Bill would still be correct.
@@chrish7183He's right about individual responsibility and not having a victim mentality. But he's wrong about the residual effects of generational oppression.
Rewatching this during covid 19, the beginning of the interview was timely
should have appreciated that hand sanitizer
Ha! I caught that too!
I thought so too
Now with Covid and these protests even more so...
and then the black lives matter protests. history repeats itself, truly.
Bill O’Reilly was definitely the best antagonist of the series
“Antagonist”? You people really are living in an imaginary world.
@@RealConstantinusMagnus says the guy pretending to be an emperor
He interrupts a lot and he makes assumptions about what Stewart is saying, that he is not.
@@monkmchorning he interrupts a lot? Stewart interrupted way more here lol
Bill O'Reilly was a genuine villain, here and at the network that employed him and paid to keep his transgressions secret.
This is honestly refreshing; the fact that two polar political opposites can do this. You can tell they don’t hate each other.
Legit. This level of decent debate is dead.
Well yeah it’s two rich media guys putting on a show lol. Why would they hate each other they’re colleagues
Bill def did not like stewart
"I'm sitting here because I'm obnoxious, not because I'm white!". I'm actually impressed that O'Reilly has even that much self-awareness.
Crosby4hyg i'm pretty sure he's self aware. i believe the stuff he says and the manner in which he says them is like a more realistic and more funnier version of Colberts "idiot" persona.
***** Very well said, I completely agree.
+Gadgets7777777 I agree that he's somewhat intelligent. However, I still think his level of ignorance and unwillingness to accept arguments based on facts are an insult to the institution of Harvard (much like George Bush's presidency was to Yale).
I feel like on Fox it's almost like he has to follow a certain agenda but his own views aren't too far apart from the BS he spews on The Factor. He still says a lot of ignorant stuff like "Asian Americans! They're from Asia". Asia is a HUGE continent. It's extremely ignorant for an educated person to refer to "Asian" people as only those from the Far East (even then it's Fcked up to stereotype 20 different countries), when Asia encompasses the Indian subcontinent, Iran and technically the Middle East as well! I wish Jon had gone at him harder on that comment!
+Fawad B africas a big continent. we call them African americans. theres nothing wrong with calling people Asian americans
+Gadgets7777777 Ithink the Bill on the O' reiley Factor has to be for 50% an act. Bill here actually is capable of a bit of nuance and humor.
The O'Reilly Stewart Rivalry was so awesome back in the day
I also miss Stephen's accolades to his "Papa Bear".
@Eric Cuevas How do figure that would go? Peoples debate styles differ and granted that John Stewart and the old Stephen Colbert always had the quick wit needed to keep up with people making rather silly arguments loudly, either through sarcasm or also being loud themselves to counter their opponents strategy mockingly, but Trevor Noah style is more laid back and less about the theatrical aspect of verbal spurring which granted is a very necessary tool while debating people like Ben Shapiro and Tomi Lahren. But i don't think that disqualifies him from being an intellectual just because he's not animated or well equipped to debate people who say outrageous lies with a straight face .
Wasn't much of a rivalry. Jon Leibowitz is an idiot.
@Eric Cuevas Youve not seen his tomi lahren interview then, I presume. Hes good in his way as well
@@colinmontgomery1956 no, sir...YOU are the idiot.
I love Jon's genuine excitement at the end, "You did it!" His goal is to actually have a conversation that moves people toward understanding, not just to win political points. I miss him.
That was this mad, unheard of concept called "normalcy." It used to be everywhere before 2016.
@@UnchainedEruption He's back now. Hopefully he can enlighten people the way he dd a decade ago. First episode was brilliant.
At least Bill had a sense of humor and he’d go on shows with Jon and Colbert. A lot of conservatives won’t do that.
Jon used to understand that he was just telling jokes in a political format. Unfortunately the new guy thinks he’s an actual political talk show host. So of course no conservatives go on now.
Most conservatives would do that. They are literally banned right now from even entering this shows.
Remember when norm macdonald was canceled from jimmy kimmel because the writers there were shaking and crying, because norm is so offensive?
@@berndlauert4741 what happened to jimmy? he use to be funny and easy going?
@@frankrike He just had a show scheduled there, and the writers had panic attacks and freaked out, and he got canceled from being on the show. Right now there is much more conservatives that want to engage in talks with leftist than the other way around.
You mean rapists …
I love it when Oreilly goes outside the fox bubble, he seems a lot more... human
Tennessee Jermyn don’t worry, he’s not
I’d say he seems a little leas inhuman.
@@mc53 Right, exactly. He's seems *almost* human.
Does it ever make you think that what O'Reilly does is nothing more than an act? Mr. Murdoch likes to hedge his bets and play both sides against the other.
@@JustMe-vk4fn O'Riely's angry conservative twatizm isn't an act. : )
I think Bill agreed with what Jon was saying without actually realizing it
Stricken4Pot yes, but he can't actually agree to it, because that means he "loses". because that is what debate/discussion is all about winning, right? certainly not broadening one's perspective by comparing it with another's...
1SeniorSmurf I'm beginning to see the orielly position, I think its that we completely ignore the fact that as a race in america blacks have an incredibly low proportion of private property compared to whites. That basically means opportunity is harder for blacks than anyone else. But orly thinks thats irrelevant because anti discrimination laws mean everyone gets legally a fair shot, and in a capitalist mindset thats all that matters because the only alternative would be intervention in the market.
Stricken4Pot They have a great respect for each other anyway...
I think we're tired of 'residue' and victim narrative. Stewart trapped him by evoking proudful Levitown roots but Bill was right in saying black communities had their own strong values...then. I thought Stewart had him as usual but Bill pulled it out and won crowd over.
***** Said by the white man.
"Don't mess with Oprah, she'll shave you" is maybe the funniest joke Bill has ever said on purpose.
Samuel Armen right when he said that I saw your comment lol
😂😂😂
The dude is surprisingly witty
Wow . You have a low bar for comedy
@@Neilleeds honestly lol wow
We need more of this type of real civil discussion in today's politics
How do Asian Americans outpace white Americans-earn more, jailed less-in all meaningful metrics without white privilege?
i dont admire O'Reilly, but have to give him a credit for coming and willing to discuss these issues
RPDBY Low bar given he was a talk show host.
Liberals never do this.
@@rn6710 sewart was on bills show 3 times
@@soda212 lmao. rightwingers are such nutters on youtube ^^
@warrior 4467 he loved jon stewart. he actually admired him and thought the daily show was tremendous. i found that out on a documentary on the daily show search it on youtube. its called like the fake newsman who won over america or something
"I'm sitting here because I'm obnoxious, not because I'm white!" LMAO!!!! That's a classic line no matter what you think of the politics.
@@SimielBlack Nah he's obnoxious because he's provocative
Simiel Black Nahhh, he’s obnoxious because he knows how to play the audience.
@@SimielBlack He's obnoxious because he's obnoxious. Or if you want to get technical, he's obnoxious because of his genetics, the environment he was raised in, and to a certain extent, because he chooses to be. But I wouldn't say he's obnoxious because he's white. That would imply all white people are obnoxious which is simply not true.
@@darkhorse381 the point I was trying to make was that indeed the circumstances he was raised in make him obnoxious because he experienced a huge amount of white privilege which he chooses to ignore
Mohamad Moussa found the dork
One of the many examples showing why Jon Stewart is a national treasure.
When?
The fact that these two can get along on television like this, joke around, argue respectfully, its great.
This is the perfect example of the breakdown in communication between Left and Right.
They often agree on a lot of the facts but place slightly different emphasis on them. And that emphasis leads to mischaracterising and demonizing the opponent.
gary wood you said it Gordon
Places like rebel media a bit got different approach - deny all : deny LGBTQ are discriminated and vulnerable, deny race problem, deny trans problems, just flat out deny really.
gary wood The left may embellish facts but the right just denies them if they get in the way of their values. O'Reilly is basically saying even though he knows about white privilege he won't admit it because he doesn't want it to be an excuse for individuals. And he is one of the more honest Fox ppl.
Good observation but the reasons for the difference in emphasis goes very deep. This isn't just a simple, "oh, the issue is here, let's just address it", as if it would actually work in bringing people into agreement. The problem with O'Reilly's reasoning as well as many conservatives in this country, is that whatever drives their reasoning is what keeps them tied down to very simplistic explanations and propositions about what goes on with black Americans. It takes a lot of self-reflection and introspective work to come to terms with it and rectify it. O'Reilly's ego, and other's, are too big for this.
Albert Malbert And how do you know if their answers are too simple if they've never really been tried?
This is why I love America and its tradition of tolerance and acceptance, these two gentlemen probably hate each other's guts yet they invite each other to their programs and discuss issues, whether they disagree or not, they are TALKING, DEBATING with great respect to their person. in the arab media, one presenter would be cursing another person and the other presenter would curse back and they would never meet again, but seeing these two men sitting together and talking regardless how much they disagree with each other yet somehow tolerate one another. I say this to all Americans, You ppl of the USA are lucky to be part of this great nation.
greetings from Yemen ( a small state in the mess of the middle east)
America is evil dude, Yemen is fucked too. I use to live there. But don't be fooled by america. It's a country of evil and needs to be destroyed.
Adam Nahari As an Arab I totally agree, but you must also note that bill O'Reilly is gonna go back to fox news and continue to brainwash the U.S people into believing whatever Fox news wants. Fox news has a reputation for forcing their narrative onto the public using scare tactics and fear mongering. Fox, CNN, and most of the media in the U.S are biased and bigoted. But in the end to agree with your point, with every corrupt media outlet such as fox, there comes a beacon of hope in the form of Jon Stewart or the likes, its up to the people to be smart enough to choose who to believe.
Adam Nahari And then Al Itijah Al Muakis came to my mind lol.Although I adore this program, you sure do have a point.
Adam Nahari well we are not exactly perfect. Jon Stewert is just really cool. All our other media (if you want to call it that) we yell at eachother. Don't get too excited. Oh and our cops hate black people.
Aside from that, it's pretty cool and tolerant. If you're not black.
SEE WE'RE NOT THAT DIFFERENT AFTER ALL.
Mohammed W. Alshalalfeh Jon Stewart is not a beacon of hope. He is clearly the opposite side of the brainwash coin.
i commented on this 5 years ago and im back to say this was a great conversation, i really wish we had more of this
Bill o'Reilly and Jon Stewart. A mutual respect and always entertaining to watch them both
Jesus Christ, Bill O'Reilly is really tall.
Jon Stewart is really small
Johan Caspar Scharmer No, O'Reilly is a lanky bastard.
Sonefiler He is also a fucking right wing bigot.
thomscn I honestly don't think O'Reilly believes the majority of the bullshit he spews. He's just smart. He has a popular show based on his character and he runs with it. That's what I hope anyways because otherwise he's just an asshole.
dpeace99 It's not just because he has a popular right winged show. It's because he is a puppet for Rupert Murdoch's views on life. Mostly everyone on Fox is the same. The media is controlled by the powerful elite. Mainstream journalism is dead.
I love that bill and John have such different view points and yet they can meet and have a debate and still be respectful to each other
You don't see this much anymore.
@@lowmax4431 Well yeah people are sop much more entrenched in the team side of politics and both sides are moving further to thier idealogical extremes
I love Jon's reactions when he's getting excited; especially when he squeaks 'YES IT IS!' at 7:46
The ultimate frienemies. Love all of the debates and Jon on his show too.
They should have a show. They're so good together.
Too bad Bill's a creep
@@majikss sounds like a plus
Uhh.... no.
Crossfire 2! Less extreme!
It real crossfire
"there is no more slavery, there is no more jim crow,"
"oooo" *removes book *
lol Do you americans realize that everyone's laughing at your racist nation?
Thanks to your racist nation now people are discussing if there's "white privilege" in china, india, the middle east, africa and allover the world.
This is the racism that your nation is spreading allover the world. On top of that war and conflict of course.
There's nothing worse than hearing americans from the right and the left discussing who's party is more racist.
@@FriendlyCroock 5:23 That's kinda what I'm getting at. Bill is saying it's all gone and things are all fixed and that's an ignorant and repugnant thing to say. I think its funny that Jon puts the book away and the real debate gets started there.
@@fleidyleegyrson7361
No, I think it's funny that you're listening to ameriracism and racist american conspiracy theories like "white privilege".
You even dare comment back to me.
Shut your mouth sir. With all due respect.
@@FriendlyCroock USA! USA! USA!
@@FriendlyCroock bruh what? did you even watch the video?
Actual discourse and genuine discussion. Wow
These are vital conversations we're no longer having even just a few years later.
What a fantastic discussion. I love how, despite their deeply contrasting views, they still had a lot of respect for eachother at the end. Rare to see.
All considered, I really respect how, despite the vitriol between these two, they've been able to hold an extended, legitimate dialogue for years (and multiple guest appearances on each others' show). And they make damn good TV when they're on together. The rest of America could really learn a thing or two from them about debating.
Couldn't agree more.
I miss when people could actually debate in this country.
I seriously think these guys are secretly friends
I think they’d have each other’s back if somebody random came at them. There’s some fondness & respect there. It’s a pretty NY kind of deal.
after the allegations levelled at O’Riley (nd the unearthed out of court settlements), I highly doubt it
Yeah I've always felt this. They just have a closeness and a back and forth I feel you only see between friends
They admitted they they tolerate eachother and should hangout outside of their shows but politically they are opposites doesnt mean they can't be friends
It wasn't a secret lol
I love these two guys together. You can tell they're friends, but just so far apart on the political chain that all they can do is argue. But then, you'd have no problem believing they went out for a beer together after the show.
I don't believe for a second these two are friends
@@daandemeyer1708 i think they are. john was on bill's show multiple times and bill was on john's show here. i know they were promoting their books but they would not appear on each other's shows if they despise each other. it just shows that 2 people with contrasting political ideas could like each other. they just love to debate about it.
Isko Cañas Jr I think they have a good chemistry what is good for television but I think stewart respects O’reilly at all.
@Phil Buckhouse I agree....
But I ONE HUNDRED PERCENT believe that the reason they would still be friends is SOLELY because of Jon Stewart and his ability to break the tension and get back to the conversation at hand.......
Stewart is an amazingly funny, diplomatic and, most importantly, PATIENT, debater... Something O’Reilly has NEVER been known for........
#StewartForPresident
Daan Demeyer a lot of them are friends
I can watch these two debate forever.
Watching this in 2021. I wish we had this sort of conversation now. Politely and comically being forgiving of the people who think differently. Talk it out! Bring people together! Our differences often unite us.
He started off calling him "WILLIAM, HELLO WILLIAM!!" 😂😂😂😂
These guys love each other. When they get together the entertainment value is through the roof. And they know that. Both smart and savvy entertainers.
While it seems Bill and Jon hate each other politically, it seems like they kind of like each other one on one. Am i wrong with that? i genuinely don't know.
They're friends IRL
Max Jackson it makes good tv
Max Jackson Just because you have different political ideologies doesn't mean you can't get along with someone on a personal level.
Max Jackson
They have barbecues
Max Jackson yeah they do..jon stewert doesnt like the others at fox though. Him and Bill can be civil with each other. You can see it in their debate.
As an Irish person I would like to point out that Bill O'Reilly is an American.
no. His name is O'Reilly. haha He is an Irish anti-immigrant nativist white supremacist.
yes he is irish american
@@Ethan-qo9rx So does he have an Irish passport?
@@Ethan-qo9rx ethan is originally a hebrew name does that make you jewish culturally? Having a name that dates back to a certain group does not make you part of that group. If it did half of ireland would be considered norman and not irish.
Watching Bill spar with John really convinces me that Bill is probably a much more decent person than he is on his show. Say what you will, but Bill is admirably giving John a real argument and his genuine beliefs. Also if we're honest, Bill is also entertaining and matching the humorous tone of the show when he could have just been a stick in the mud if he wanted to. Granted I only watch Bill when he's arguing with John, so them's my rose tinted glasses. In short...I wish Bill and John would wise up and do a show together. Seeing those two debate and rib each other on a nightly basis on topics of the day would be the greatest.
This comment is would have more of a point if he didn’t push his ex wife down a flight of stairs in front of their kids
"I'm sitting here because I'm obnoxious!"
Me: You're god damn right
They're both right.
In the 1970s my father was routinely pulled over while driving his Cadillac.
Around 1980 my godfather wasn't allowed to buy a house in Throggs Neck.
In 1993 I was jogging through Washington Heights/Ft Washington. Cops stopped me thinking that I had stolen something.
In 2003 a girl told me there was no way she could tell her father she was with me.
Around 2010 my friend had to threaten a lawsuit because the housing board in the Hudson Valley wouldn't let him buy a condo there.
Hard work, however, has overcome the bias.
No matter the hard work youre still a target that wont change.
I worked hard to get out of the hood i lived in u know what i got in return? Pulled over and asked to step out of a vehicle believed not to be mine.Askes if it was my car before any license registration and or proof of inaurance. Woth 5 squad cars on me. Broad daylight. No bias?
Or being a passenger and asked for your id for no other reason than to check and make sure the neighborhood was safe in his words. Shall i go on?
Or being searched and harassed everytime you get pulled over for something that doesn't even look suspicious. And I'm Mexican lol
They definitely aren't both right, the point is that white men have the... PRIVILEGE.. of not having to put up with these things.
What part of the Hudson Valley?
Jon Stewart was having the White Privlage conversation 6 years ago and it's just now coming back around to the mainstream.
That's why he was the best.
You must be white 😏
minorities have been having this conversation for decades....
White Privilege is a myth.
@@kevinchester6721 Are you going to say that after January 6th?
@@ericanderson969 You do realize colleges and universities let black kids in twice as likely ONLY because they're black?
Jan 6th just proves also how black privilege is real, BLM rioted for MONTHS day and night causing hundreds of millions of worth of damage and nobody criticized it.
We desperately need to have more of an open dialog with each other as Americans or nothing is ever going to change.
That's what is so great about these 2 guys and in particular Jon Stewart he had these conversations that Got is audience thinking. This Country needs this more now than ever.
I was born in 1961 (just for reference). When I was ten (1971) we went to this church in Hermosa Beach, CA. One day a very nice looking, stylishly dressed black couple with their kids came in. They were the only black people EVER in that church that I can recall. After the service when everybody was thanking the minister, he very politely told them that he thought they would be more comfortable at another church. We never went back to that church again.
I was born in 1977 (just for reference). When i was 12 (1989) my family decided to attend several of the churches in Chicago to gain perspective. We attended 5 different 99% black churches and at EVERY one we were asked by at least 10 people to never come back. By contrast, every hispanic church was extremely welcoming and our church was also welcoming to all races. Thanks for sharing though Drake.
"We're going to call this series killing trees" lol
Imagine watching this in mid-October 2020.
I am
@@Charliegirl2 O'Reilly sounds extremely stupid 6 years later
How about late October?
@@seamusbenn2967 I raise you after election results
@@russallen9342 he seems prescient and principled actually
This is much better than any presidential debate I've seen
WHY THE FUCK DOESNT JON STEWART RUN FOR PRESIDENT!?!?!?
+cory gonzalez Holy shit calm the fuck down
+cory gonzalez How very liberal and accepting of you!
+cory gonzalez I don't hope three nazis walk into a bar don't hunt this gonzo jerkwad down and push him off a cliff. Anyway I hope you both live forever, cya on the cliff :) (thats where I live)
+cory gonzalez Maybe because he doesn't know shit?
Because he's a moron
and you can win the 500 yard dash on one leg but its harder LMFAO
I love watching every conversation these two have.
Jon Stewart has passion, courage, strength, character, intelligence, compassion, and integrity. He is one in a million! Couldn't imagine a better President.
I'm an Asian immigrant and I usually like Jon Stewart, but he's just dead wrong here. It's a red herring to say: "oh but depends on where they come from." WTF? I have Romanian (white) friends who suffer just as much lack of privilege as anybody. It's not a "white privilege" it's an American citizen privilege. It's also insulting to say that Blacks have "different experience" than Asians, implying somehow that they are disadvantaged more so than Asians. African Americans for one, don't have to work their ass off just for a fucking visa, and to stay in this country. Asian and other immigrants (including white immigrants), despite being just as qualified, are constantly being taken advantage of by having to work longer hours, less holidays, lower start-up pay and benefits, harder opportunity for promotion etc., because we have to beg our employers for a visa. Blacks do not have to. I have a Romanian friend, a violinist (which means that he makes minimum wage) who had to pay 6000 dollars for his green card and he still doesn't know whether he would get it or not. Another Turkish friend of mine (also white) who literally ate 40 dollars a month for meals, to save up to go back to Turkey or to travel in the U.S. because he is under contract and cannot work during the summer from his studies, else he could get deported. Not to mention we have learn this impossible-for-us language called "English" just to be able to do anything. We have to adapt to not only learning the language, but also deal with culture clashes, deal with assimilation, deal with habituating to different food etc etc. Blacks don't have to, because they are already a native citizen of the country for many generations (most Asians are just first or second generation immigrants), that gives them privilege over us. In fact, I was at an all-black middle school. I had absolutely no privilege over those black kids by being more lighter-skinned. In fact, I was chased down the street with those kids while they were yelling: "I'm gonna kill yo Chinese!" I was a complete outcast and treated like second-rate-schoolmate, and spending my days in a classroom where I might as well listen to duck quacking, because I could not understand a single word the teacher was saying, which made me lag on future studies as I went through schools. There are also many stories about Black-on-Asian violence, and laws that plays into the favor of Blacks, such as affirmative action (which btw, disadvantages Asians, just based on their race, not even socio-economic class). Jon Stewart just has no fucking clue. He's singing to the "Blacks are just worse off than everybody" racist tune. And yes, it is racist to generalize "whites" and generalize "Blacks" as if they are all the same, while being hypocritical and pointing out that Asians are not the same group. Fuck him.
Yes, African Americans have more "privilege" than people who aren't in America, because they're fucking American.
Did you really need a comment that long to say that?
MrMollusk7
Can you fucking read? I'm comparing African Americans to people who ARE in America, just recent immigrants. If it's too long, don't read it.
AstriaICOW
Yeah. Because an African American was never an immigrant if THEY WERE BORN IN AMERICA.
Blame our insanely broken immigration policy, not things that have jack shit to do with immigration.
MrMollusk7
Asian Americans BORN in the states suffer many of the similar problems, such as culture clashes and difference in foods, 'cause their fucking parents don't speak English, and THEY have to get the visa despite their kids born in the U.S. and being an American citizen
AstriaICOW
Are you seriously this fucking dense?
If I moved to China, I would be maladjusted. I couldn't speak the language fluently, and there would be cultural barriers. I wouldn't start telling people about how they have "Chinese privilege".
I'm black. Was active duty for 5 years. I have a degree and I'm also attending an university for another. I also live in a predominantly white neighborhood. However I applied for a part time job at best buy. Did the phone interview and everything was perfect. They called me in and once I got there told me "we're sorry all our positions are full" something to think about.
We need this kind of discourse back
These two are the perfect showcase of how both ideologies in this country are just about to meet and become something great but never do.
Yup, and that's why we need another political party in our country that is somewhat more in the middle and can see ideas from both sides...
Honestly what a great interview for both sides I love watching these two go at it
I love John Steward! He truly does try to make the world a better place.
If only we could go back to this.
Loved this conversation
The point O'Reilly misses and Jon Stewart didn't touch on is the fact that to really be successful and make it you have to start "working hard" as a CHILD.
How can you expect a CHILD, growing up in a very low income area, when dad may or may not be around, when theres gangs and drugs and alcohol all over the place and that whole cultures that is WAY different then the cultures of middle/upper class, to know what to do succeed in life? With potentially little to no guidance or poor guidance from the parents in many cases?
You can't just grow up in an environment like that and then suddenly at the age of 18 go to college if you haven't even finished high school yet or if you did very poorly and didn't learn much. Kids are easily influenced by their environment, and its very far fetched to expect a young child to somehow figure out he needs to ignore what goes on around him/her and to study and find a path success.
You make a couple of good points, but to conflate the issues you mentioned into "white privilege" is ignoring many other points, such as the example of so-called "Asian privilege."
+M - Excellent point. Environment is a huge factor; if you grow up in a craphole surrounded by desperate, angry people, constantly being pushed around and dragged into trouble against your will, then you don't have the same chances of making it through college as someone who grows up in a cozy house with great neighbors. What we can do about this is to improve the environments by caring for people who need it, by maintaining buildings better, setting up positive initiatives in the community to help build a sense of belonging and cooperation instead of every person for themselves, dog-eat-dog mentality... and this should of course include racial ghettos. Link those ghettos back into the rest of the city with support from outside and programs to make sure their kids have access to books, computers, good schools. Positive change starts with positive action.^^
Exactly. There's communities where the life expectancy of a male is 20. How are you supposed to succeed in that?
@Mrcookie T If a kid doesn't grow up in an environment where working hard and behaving leads to good or better outcomes, how are you going to hold that kid responsible for not doing their homework and behaving in school? Also, no one is saying that people are not supposed to be held accountable for their actions. All that is being said is that since people are subjected to different environments, there is going to be people who have more and better opportunities because they had that chance. If a murderer had grown up in a stable household with two parents, he might not have ever committed the crime. Yes, people can make choices, but they don't really have agency. "Free will" is something that humans often think that they have, but we are conditioned to our surroundings and our environment to make certain decisions. Also, I don't even really think murder is analogous to a child's choices on whether or not they should do their homework just by nature of their consequences and the literal end of a person's life.
You saying that poverty is something that is controllable is a laughably small minded thing to say. If a poor person is conditioned to be a certain way, then how in the world can you expect them to pull themselves by their bootstraps and go on their merry way? It is known that when you give someone who is poor a lot of money and give a more wealthy person (let's say middle class) the same amount of money, poor people will not know how to use it in the same productive way that the wealthier person does. This is why we need to educate people from the beginning on how to reasonably function within society. But if they grow up in a home that is less wealthy and has not been taught from THEIR parents how to do differently and be better than them, it's much harder for those children to succeed in life obtain some type of agency over their parents or making good education more accessible. If things could be as simple as saying, "hey, you there poor person, it's time for you to get up and buck society by going back to school and getting a good education and then working a job so that you can become a model citizen," then we wouldn't have so many problems in our society.
Sorry if this is a little too SJWy for you, but that was a pretty privileged thing for you to say.
@Mrcookie T Alright. So it seems to come down to not having a good home environment. After all, there's not much point in getting good grades or rewards at school if at home they don't mean anything.
America has existed in a society that has been openly and lawfully racist up to most of the 60's in many states. Lawful racism has ended. There is still open racism of course, but it's not lawful, so in the eyes of the law we are all equal. However, how do you expect things to change within a couple of generations? If you grandfather couldn't even sit next to a white person, let alone hold a similar paying job no matter their talent, how can the next generation have a good family core and values? If you have parents that are stable and well respected and can interact with other members of society in equal terms, it is more likely you'll end up the same. How do you just suddenly "educate" people to be that way if only some years ago they couldn't?
After a few hundred years of blatant suppression you're left with a broken society that needs to get by however they can. That's what systemic means. It was enforced by several factors, a system with an objective of leaving people in unequal terms. That system no longer exists but there is plenty of residual effects (a term that Bill apparently dislikes). Racism might not be lawfully enforced nowadays, but you, as an individual, are a result of several generations influencing the next with whatever care and nurturing (or lack thereof) that they could provide. There's plenty of space for individual growth and free will, but when that possibility has only been available for such a short time it's a bit hard to argue that a disparity exists.
What a great interview Jon, now I know a lot of what you believe and haven't got Bill's idea at all. It's so great when you constantly interrupt him so he doesn't develop his ideas and you get to develop yours. It's like you emulated Bill! Great work man, now you're the liberal version of Bill o Reilly.
Can't you feel the bro-love between those two? :)
whartanto2 Yes, they are so fit to each other.
I have a feeling that all of them, Bill, Jon, Steve, Hannity, Megan, Matthews behind closed doors share the same opinions (whatever that may be) but for the sake of Right and Left they play their sides.
bill o'really CONSTANTLY interrupts his so called 'guests'. he's well known for it. he's a bully and an old out of date , should've been retired with that schizo glenn beck. jon stewart just did to him what he does to everybody else on HIS show. don't lump an intelligent man with a halfwitted oaf like o'really. there are too many occasions when he has made an utter arse of himself and then trod even deeper in the shit by saying "that's on record" when he's FUCKING LYING THRU HIS TEETH!!
i thought it was superb when stewrt shat again and again on o'really using o'really's own 'shout them down' tactic. and the biggest joke? o'really has written a book about Patton's assassination [one book i WON'T be reading cos i KNOW it will be ghost written by a student of the BotB.. ie, NOT o'really] who was truly effective when he ordered a whole US corps to 180 to help Bastogne but o'really again and again on FAUX reported about the yanks that killed surrendering germans AT MALMEDY!! AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!
WHAT AN UTTER DICK!! it took him a whole day before someone reminded him it was US artillery troops that were massacred by SS NCOs and he changed what he had said the days before!! how can such a dullard write about Patton when he doesn't even know abou the fucking Makmedy massacre of US troops by Joachim Peiper's Kampfgruppe [tho Peiper was NOT to blame].
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? YOU JUST ANOTHER 65 YR OLD SUFFERING FROM DEMENTIA [O'REALLY'S TARGET AUDIENCE]?
just cos you're over 60 doesn't make you right, you're american so, in general terms? you're as dumb as they fucking come. and the fact you think o'really can be compared to stewart [the debates where o'really REALLY thought he could match stewart's intellect?? oh my god!! so funny!! with his little cards after he got his arse wiped again! o'really, hannity and the rest at FAUX are nowhere near the same league as the guys at comedy central!!]
hurry up and find your grave, old man.
Narred Darr Such hate :P Jon Stewart and Bill O'Reilly are actually good friend on personal level despite their political difference.
Jon said once "I have family members who make Bill looks like a socialist and I love them all".
Jon brings out the human in Bill.. let's be real...
The guy's opinions suck, but the banter between these two is fun to watch.
Absolutely.
Only John Stewart could pull off n interview with Bill like this.... very cool 2 see.
This show with Bill O'Reilly on it was entertaining 👍
I always loved it whenever Jon and Bill went at each other. I just can't help but laugh so hard even though they're serious in what they're saying.
It’s nice to see two people with different ideological viewpoints have an intelligent debate and be respectful towards one another. Somethings that’s utterly lost now a days.
They have a really good chemistry.
Oh shit. I felt it in my soul when Jon said "You're getting to a bad place, friend."
Really brave of Bill to go on the show in the first place. He knew what he was getting into
I would give my left arm to have John back on the air again
I get the sentiment, but it loses a bit of its punch when you don't even know how his name is spelled.
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He’s back. The problem with John Stewart is his new show on Apple TV
@@sma6402 whats wrong with it?
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wow i couldn't have watched this at a better time. you're the best jon stewart!
Never thought I would miss Bill O'Reilly. These are strange times indeed.
27 seconds in hits so hard in early 2021.
That was a fun interview. Highly enjoyed it. Because it sounded like a debate between me and my friends.
John Stewart was a legendary interviewer, political analyst, and a comedian, all in one. He regularly brought out what good there was in Bill.
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Oreilly: “You don’t then take that and condemn the modern society”
Stewart: “Nobody’s condemning the modern society”
Good civil debate.
Who’s here watching this in 2020, wishing it was then?
I'm wishing we could go back to pre-trump times, not because I hate the guy, but because engaging in discourse online just didn't seem as tiresome before...
The internet of yore is all but dead.
Would be nice to see people agree to not condemn the society in modern debate
I love the passion and the determination Jon gives into trying to get bill to understand the point. ♥️
It's a false logic. He has a racial bias that blinds him from the truth.
Like last night I dreamed I was awake and then when I woke up I was asleep.
This entire segment was Jon simply trying to get Bill to understand that white privilege is not something to be ashamed of; it's something to be aware of.
So simple, and yet...
lmao. This is a made-up term. There is no evidence of it - it simply does not exist. Sorry Ama!
@@nateoliver3285 The irony of the whitest kid ever saying white privilege isn't real is the funniest shit.
@@nateoliver3285 please tell me why you are 200 times more likely to be shot if you are black by police than if you are white, please tell me if even if blacks and whites do drugs at the same rate more blacks are arrested for drug offenses. You probably trust fbi crime statistics
The term white privilege implies that white people are getting something extra, when it's not that.
The terminology is misleading, kind of.
I don't really like the term white-privilege because it's not that accurate. Think a more accurate term is non-white male disadvantage.
Here in 2021 wishing I saw discussions about politics like this on the news and in politics
These two actually have a great dynamic. I don't agree with O'Reilly and his public personality is generally damaging to civic discourse, but his willingness to facilitate conversations with Stewart on CC and Fox, along with his candor during the discussions, were extremely admirable.
Jon Stewart convinced Bill O'Reilly, historic moment and the final end of a great fight!
Essentially John's take on both the left and the right - they are sensational and lazy. The fact that he's not a liberal by default, and he understands that both parties are corrupt and awful, is what makes him be able to talk to conservatives like Bill, in a way that might push him without pissing him off into seeing the other side of things. There are certain people who do not understand what rooted and systemic racism means when it comes to opportunity and quality of life. Hope we have more John's in the future. We're going to need them.
We need more Johns right now
@@todddavidson1332 Definitely agree
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He's a liberal by default.
Reading killing Kennedy helped me pass my history class when it came out. Thanks Bill
I miss this type of conversation
The crux of this argument was Stewart saying “I read up on it” and O’Riley saying “I could find somebody” nuff said
the moment when he steps on stage and you go: 'Wow, he's huge.'
Jon Stewart’s hyperbolic “Hello William!” When he brings him out kills me 🤣
it's refreshing to see people having civil debates and laughing off each other like human beings. its a rare site these days for something like this to be publicized.
Actually when Bill O'Reilly said "It's all relative" and that others have had it much easier than him, he brought up an interesting point that Jon Stewart didn't really acknowledge.
The reason that's so important is because it's also relative WITHIN a race.
Smart and beautiful people are privileged over ugly and stupid people. That's why focusing just on race isn't a good approach.
Now for everyone who upvoted OP's comment, take a second more and think. OP, is essentially describing "intersectionality". It's race, class, ability, color, gender, orientation, etc. Everyone has privileges that play out in different ways on an individual level.
That's what I was thinking! Solid point. It sucks that both sides tend to dismiss valid statements, for fear of giving leverage to the "opposition".
@@garywood97 Hear, hear!
I don't think this was dismissed, just not thought to be that relevant. Like was said at the end, it's a Factor, and there are a bunch of factors, and within any set of factors there are relative differences if you only focus on one of them (like race).
This was an amazing discussion. I can understand both of their points and I agree with both of them. Also, they were both being completely honest. You’ll never see something like this being talked about civilly on TV today.
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Watching this in 2017, every Stewart/Colbert interview with O'Reilly suddenly feels very awkward.
I'm currently a democrat. But it's things like these that make me want to register as a moderate. Great things can happen when two sides listen to each other and figure out a solution.
+AvoltageGaming Honestly, Democrats are moderates, in my opinion. The republicans may label Obama as a liberal but he isn't even close. Europeans would laugh at our Democratic party being liberal besides a few individuals inside the party. Though I do agree about the two sides listening to each other and not yelling insults.
+Michael nope we in Europe don't have those retarded race issues. White privilege is BS in our opinion.
George Washington said having a party system was a bad idea in his farewell address
Obama was a staunch moderate and look how much the Republicans listened to him.
But then again we don't have the same history at all when it comes to slavery. Black people in Europe are usually people who've immigrated (now or generations back). We didn't have the Jim Crow laws or any of that shit. I agree that the quicker they can get rid of race issues the better, but we're not really gonna get there if we don't acknowledge it. What needs to happen? Race to not mean a thing. How? Ehhh, that's the problem. The more we talk about it, the bigger of a deal we make it. But if we don't talk about it, how are we going to change the current situation? We must eliminate that social difference somehow. How about we start caring about poor people as a whole, instead of solely focusing on poor black people. The term "white privilege" does seem weird, because it implies that the fact that bigger percentages black people are poor than white people means that every white person has an advantage. Thus we got the "you're white, you've got privilege" halfwits, completely skewing the message. What really describes a phenomenon that as a whole does exist, becomes a far left buzzword. Doesn't really help anyone. Whenever someone mentions a legit racial injustice, they're immediately called a crazy coockoo Social Justice Warrior femnazi, because everyone's sick of the racist "anti racist" people, and therefore assumes everyone who starts talking about race is like that. I think many white people are sick of being pushed into a guilt they don't deserve, and all this just stops any real discussions about actual issues from happening. If everyone would just stop thinking of all left leaning people as 18 year old girls with tumblr and all right leaning people as 60 year old, greedy old businessmen, that'd be nice.
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I honestly didn’t realize until now that Bill O’Reilly from Fox News was the Bill O’Reilly who wrote the “Killing” series