@@Samurai_Capcut you can't debate someone in comments TF😂 you can't make propositional arguments in comments or you can't have judges in yt comments and some replies get lost during your dialect with someone on CZcams 😭 at that point you aren't debating you discussing a baseless scenario with no truth value😭💀
Alright I have multiple problems with this so I’m gonna try debunking you First off, that isn’t immeasurable speed. What it is is 5d AP. This is supported since it ignores and transcends space and time so he doesn’t have immeasurable speed but you can still scale it to infinite. Goku also has immeasurable speed scaling so even if he did have immeasurable speed it would still be even Also just because they are larger than universes don’t mean they scale higher. Also how many worlds can they destroy? Doesn’t matter since it cap at multi which is fodder to db Hax is also debatable since rimuru has a lot more hax but Goku has hakai which is existence erasure on a conceptual level and he also has resistances to any hax from weaker opponents Sorry to break it to you but Goku unironically solos
@@B__________ returning to your first point. Rimuru not only has Immeasurable speed but in the recent volume speed become irrelevant to rimuru. Upto volume 20 rimuru can easily go anywhere in 0 time. Traveling in 0 time to infinite distance gives you immeasurable speed. But now in the latest volume rimuru surpass the concept of Space-Time and speed completely. Thus speed become irrelevant to him. I agree that some hax will not work on goku. But that will be pretty low level hax's. Rimuru hax's are strong beyond goku's comprehension. You can serch his hax's. Firstly goku can't fully control hakai secondly hakai can't kill immortal being's and it is not conceptual level ereaser which was literally mentioned in manga. Rimuru is also Type 9 immortal and he is Nep-2 even conceptual level ereaser can't do a shit to rimuru.
@@B__________ It is also mentioned in latest light novel that a world is a multiverse. The main Cardinal World is Type 4 Multiverse. There are infinite number's of world each seperated by Dimensional layers. Each have their own Time Axes and Qualitative Superiority thus having higher Dimensionality. Rimuru can easily created the whole Tensura verse containing infinite number's of Dimension's thus making the cosmology 1-A Outerversal and quick update DBS cosmology upgraded to low Complex multiversal in the new tiering.
Firstly that wasn't my argument my argument, my argument was he is unaffected by time and space so he has immeasurable speed atleast read properly lil bro 😂
@@Monarch_Scalez not to mention that nowhere in those scans did i see anything proving that those "world's" transcended each other or any indication that they were temporal or spacial dimensions
@@Monarch_Scalez Nigga how was my comment saying that the video was debunked (it was) a concession to me being biased 💀 I wasn’t even arguing or battling with you on that, so it isn’t a concession. Meaning of concession: “The action of conceding, granting, or yielding something.” Going by definition, I haven’t conceded, which means your message was false.
universal???!!! LN?!!!! only universal?? SSG goku already could've destroyed the entire macrocosm which holds heaven and hell which has Infinite dimensions which is scaled to High hyperversal and he absorbed this in base and gets way stronger than this and speed=power in Db he also he got hit back in a 3 time skip in the future and brought him back to the present with raw speed alone only u a lil anos OP geek would downplay goatku
Okay really how is this a fair fight at all not to be rude or anything but Goku has battled multiversal beings so I don't think this is really fair and when he was using UI sign and when he got to the completed ultra instinct he was shaking the world of void with his power I don't think this guy has anything on him
@@Alastair323besides then that SH still ain't past universal since no indication whatsoever on if those worlds are temporal, or transcendental over the other.
www.wenku8.net/novel/1/1787/index.htm
LINK TO THE LIGHT NOVEL translate at your own risk
Aint no way you liked your own comment🤣
@@Samurai_Capcuttf I had to like it so I could make sure you ain't lying 😂 which you were BTW
@@Monarch_Scalez explain what I lied about.
@@Monarch_Scalezpretty low view count compared to what I had soo...
@@Samurai_Capcutyou lied about not seeing my pinned comment 😂
LN🤣🤣🤣
Thats shit is universal 🤣🤣🤣
🤣 bro saw my proof and ignored it
@@Monarch_Scalez i read the thing bruh and I've already debated someone in the comments who used the same exact sh
@@Samurai_Capcut you can't debate someone in comments TF😂 you can't make propositional arguments in comments or you can't have judges in yt comments and some replies get lost during your dialect with someone on CZcams 😭 at that point you aren't debating you discussing a baseless scenario with no truth value😭💀
@@Monarch_Scalezthat sh wasn't even that long bruh the hell?
@@Monarch_Scalez you gave me the link didn't you so that's your argument right there
Alright I have multiple problems with this so I’m gonna try debunking you
First off, that isn’t immeasurable speed. What it is is 5d AP. This is supported since it ignores and transcends space and time so he doesn’t have immeasurable speed but you can still scale it to infinite. Goku also has immeasurable speed scaling so even if he did have immeasurable speed it would still be even
Also just because they are larger than universes don’t mean they scale higher. Also how many worlds can they destroy? Doesn’t matter since it cap at multi which is fodder to db
Hax is also debatable since rimuru has a lot more hax but Goku has hakai which is existence erasure on a conceptual level and he also has resistances to any hax from weaker opponents
Sorry to break it to you but Goku unironically solos
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Bro I can debunk your debunk nigh here right now. Do you want to know.?
@@Koushik7310sure bro try it
@@B__________ returning to your first point. Rimuru not only has Immeasurable speed but in the recent volume speed become irrelevant to rimuru. Upto volume 20 rimuru can easily go anywhere in 0 time. Traveling in 0 time to infinite distance gives you immeasurable speed. But now in the latest volume rimuru surpass the concept of Space-Time and speed completely. Thus speed become irrelevant to him.
I agree that some hax will not work on goku. But that will be pretty low level hax's. Rimuru hax's are strong beyond goku's comprehension. You can serch his hax's. Firstly goku can't fully control hakai secondly hakai can't kill immortal being's and it is not conceptual level ereaser which was literally mentioned in manga. Rimuru is also Type 9 immortal and he is Nep-2 even conceptual level ereaser can't do a shit to rimuru.
@@B__________ It is also mentioned in latest light novel that a world is a multiverse. The main Cardinal World is Type 4 Multiverse. There are infinite number's of world each seperated by Dimensional layers. Each have their own Time Axes and Qualitative Superiority thus having higher Dimensionality. Rimuru can easily created the whole Tensura verse containing infinite number's of Dimension's thus making the cosmology 1-A Outerversal and quick update DBS cosmology upgraded to low Complex multiversal in the new tiering.
Just because it doesn't have gravity doesn't mean that it doesn't have time or space nor does it mean that rimuru transcends it
Who tf mentioned gravity 😂? Did you even watch my vid? Are you getting your argument of Google 😂
@@Monarch_Scalez never got it from Google and it was in the scan you showed
@@Samurai_Capcutso just cause it mentioned gravity that dosent mean my argument is based on gravity 😂
@@Monarch_Scaleznot the case here
@@Monarch_Scalezthe fact Is that after all that rimuru is still bounded by time.
Goku > Universe 7 > otherworld = transcending dimensions and dimensionality = outerversal
And rimuru is boundless
Easy to make stuff up
@@josephrogers3666 multiversal*
@S_R_Gamerzz goku is 4D, 5D is bs outer is just misinformation. rimuru is at least 5-6D as a demon lord and at least low outer in vol 21 LN
@@josephrogers3666 wtf I bro yapping abt
@S_R_Gamerzz the truth as apposed to your misinformation
Ignoring time and space doesn't mean that you transcend it it just means that you aren't effected by it.
Firstly that wasn't my argument my argument, my argument was he is unaffected by time and space so he has immeasurable speed atleast read properly lil bro 😂
@@Monarch_Scalez that ain't even immeasurable speed lol I've seen that same argument debunked before.
@@Samurai_Capcut😂 omg bro just said beign unaffected by time andnspace is not immeasurable speed(you got that from drip sauce right? 😂)
@@Monarch_Scalez drip sauce is right and I didn't need to take it from him since I already knew that before.
@@Monarch_Scalez not to mention that nowhere in those scans did i see anything proving that those "world's" transcended each other or any indication that they were temporal or spacial dimensions
Surfbone published his video about why db can't be outerversal
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Debunked surfboner video
@@fw_Rhetorical by you saying it was debunk then you are conceding that you are bias 😭
@@Monarch_Scalez Nigga how was my comment saying that the video was debunked (it was) a concession to me being biased 💀
I wasn’t even arguing or battling with you on that, so it isn’t a concession.
Meaning of concession: “The action of conceding, granting, or yielding something.”
Going by definition, I haven’t conceded, which means your message was false.
That shi is ass
universal???!!! LN?!!!!
only universal?? SSG goku already could've destroyed the entire macrocosm which holds heaven and hell which has Infinite dimensions which is scaled to High hyperversal and he absorbed this in base and gets way stronger than this and speed=power in Db he also he got hit back in a 3 time skip in the future and brought him back to the present with raw speed alone
only u a lil anos OP geek would downplay goatku
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Can i join your discord to watch some debate please:>
Oh and i don’t on anyone time i just like to watch :3
Yeah sure the link is on my channel
RIP Midurai gaycut💀👈
You say that but do you even understand anything in this vid??
Yo you made a vid just for me aww thanks, and you talk mad sh when your shakes aren't really that dif from mine.
Mine are actually shakes and I put them together in like a sec for this vid so rest 🤣
@@Monarch_Scalez and still didn't see the link btw
@@Samurai_Capcut refresh the comments tf
@@Monarch_Scalez you using those shit comic vine and VbW scans
@@Samurai_Capcutnope not even close 😂
I dont see anything in the bio sooo where exactly?
I can't have more than 100 words in my bio it will be in my pinned comment
@@Monarch_Scalez seen it before and that SH is from tensura
@@Samurai_Capcut so you agree it's from tensura😐😭 this is why I hate comment discussions
@@Monarch_Scaleznothing changed either in your "pinned comment" or the fact you using the same sh that already got debunked
@@Monarch_Scalez whether it's from there or not I've seen the same thing. And the fact you gotta use LN is crazy
Goku beats rimuru
discord.gg/5jAHxDwT85
here is a link to my discord if you wanna debate it.
Okay really how is this a fair fight at all not to be rude or anything but Goku has battled multiversal beings so I don't think this is really fair and when he was using UI sign and when he got to the completed ultra instinct he was shaking the world of void with his power I don't think this guy has anything on him
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@@Monarch_Scalez I am so confused
@@Alastair323Scale God and others can explain it to you
@@Alastair323besides then that SH still ain't past universal since no indication whatsoever on if those worlds are temporal, or transcendental over the other.
@@Alastair323Rimuru has better feats than shaking the universe and scales much higher bro